Has Brexit triggered an anti-democractic "Color Revolution"?
by Kit
It’s important to remember, it was never supposed to get his far.
The Prime Minister didn’t want it. The Chancellor didn’t want it. The Queen didn’t want it. The opposition didn’t want it. The President of the United States didn’t want it. JP Morgan didn’t want it. Goldman-Sachs didn’t want it. Parliament didn’t want it.
None of the heads of state of Europe wanted it. None of the banks wanted it. None of the corporate oligarchs wanted it. None of the corporations wanted it. The IMF didn’t want it. NATO didn’t want it.
JK Rowling didn’t want it. David Beckham didn’t want it. Bob Geldof didn’t want it. Eddie Izzard didn’t want it. Lily Allen didn’t want it. George Soros didn’t want it.
…and yet it happened.
Experts with scary numbers were on the BBC. Smiling pro-EU columnists snidely mocked from almost every paper. Trendy celebrities tweeted their complex political views in 140 characters or less. There were a lot hashtags. A lot of memes. Leavers were mocked and patronised. Guilted by association with a handful of clownish politicans we’re all supposed to laugh at, and the right-wing gutter press we’re all supposed to despise. All the heels wanted out, all the faces wanted in.
Marches were ignored, speeches unreported, politicians mis-quoted. Facts made up. An MP was martyred, and a movement blamed for her murder. There was a lot of name-calling, and more fear-mongering. That’s usually all it takes, to stop a movement.
…and yet it happened.
The chaos that followed – that still persists – is all the evidence you need to show just how shaken up the political establishment has become. The portraits are askew along the corridors of power. For once the term “political fallout” does not feel a dramatic metaphor. No institutional plan still stands, there is only a wasteland; pockmarked, cratered and scorched. The survivors shamble about, unsure what to say or do. Deformed. Cancerous.
A gang of ravenous Tory cockroaches tussle over the scorched bones of their leader. Sliming and biting their way to a seat of power they will hold for less than 6 months…probably. It would be amusing to watch, if it weren’t so nauseating.
A deep-rooted pocket of Blairites, a hold-out from a war long-since lost, have launched an assault on the only man left standing in the maelstrom, hoping to drag him down and take his place before he can implement the democratically ascertained will of the people.
It was never supposed to go this far. And now it must be stopped.
Let us imagine, for a short while, that this isn’t Britain. That the vote, rather than being on EU membership, was instead about leaving the OAS or joining NATO. That Jeremy Corbyn is a Bolivarian socialist or David Cameron a post-Soviet oligarch. Let’s imagine that none of this happened in a “Western democracy”, but a struggling banana republic, or a mewling new-born Balkan state. Imagine this is not here, but over there. Not us, but them.
Let us pretend this is one of those countries where these things happen.
The country’s fate was, ever so briefly, put in the hands of the people. They were being tasked with voting on an issue that could destroy trade agreements set to make many multi-national companies billions of dollars, an issue that poses a direct threat to America’s financial and Imperial interests, an issue that is an existential threat to NATO itself.
You can’t leave that to chance.
The people must be controlled. They are pressured and coerced by the media, scared by their leaders and gently instructed by the Empire.
…but they don’t listen. They vote the wrong way, and in such numbers that the usual checks and balances, all the little tweaks in the process, and lost ballots and “accidents” STILL don’t swing the vote.
Now ’tis all in pieces, all coherence gone. You have to move. You have to put his right.
The Prime Minister has resigned, and his (hopefully temporary) replacement is being chosen from a small group of millionaires by a slightly larger group of millionaires. The popular socialist opposition has come under constant attack from ambitious Neo-Liberals in his own party and the vast majority of the press, all funded and connected by a PR firm with strong connections to an ex-PM and war criminal. All evidence points to this being a planned coup.
All the while, lawyers and politicians are arguing over the legality of the referendum, the demographics of the vote, the nature of a “parliamentary democracy”. Thousands of people march through the capital, a supposed grassroots movement, supplied with loudspeakers and stages and a big screen from…somewhere.
The Leavers are denounced as racists, xenophobes and nationalists; or patronised as idiots who “didn’t understand their own interests”. A hashtag appears, and starts trending, suggesting those who voted out have all changed their minds. A huge multi-national law-firm comes forward, on behalf of “clients who wish to remain anonymous”, to challenge the legality of any parliamentary action on the back of this referendum. The President of the United States “calls for calm”, and his Secretary of State declares that the vote can be “overturned”.
Columnists from all over the press, all owned by a handful of millionaires (all of whom wanted the opposite result), start questioning the nature of a referendum. Is a binary vote truly democratic? Is there a danger of a tyranny by the majority? Doesn’t parliament have a duty to protect a country from its own people? Should we bow to mob rule?
We know this process, we’ve seen this happen. It has been Orange, Green and Rose. It has sprouted Jasmine, Lotus and Cedar. They are stage-managed revolutions, psychological, emotional and media-driven movements that seek to undermine the democratic process of Sovereign states via Astroturf movements and “student” protests. A low-cost high yield crop always repays its subsidies, and where you always, always reap what you sow.
I’m not suggesting that London will become Kiev, or that military police will march down Oxford Street to quell the rebellion. I highly doubt it will come to that, too many rich people own too many nice cars in this part of the world. Too many townhouses would find that street battles spoil their views.
Don’t shit where you eat, as the saying goes.
But make no mistake, since the Brexit result was announced, British democracy has been under a sustained, all-out attack. The narrative has been set. That Brexit is already a catastrophe, just ten days in, is now beyond question. The discussion is not “What we do now?”, but rather who is to BLAME for Brexit? The answer is apparently Jeremy Corbyn.
For the as-yet-colourless British revolution to succeed, Corbyn must be removed. The shrieking media banshees are out in force. The tabloid hitmen are aligning their rifle-sights. The machine has clicked into motion, and its churning gears cannot stop until ABC (anyone but Corbyn) is leader of the LAbour Party. Nothing makes this more apparent than the Parliamentary Labour Party, and their failed and desperate coup, where 172 MPs demanded that Corbyn stand down in favor of [To Be Determined].
Hilary Benn has gone into hiding, everyone has forgotten what Liz Kendall looks like, Yvette Cooper is crying in the bathroom because twitter was mean to her, Chuka Umunna is busy editing his Wikipedia page and nobody copied Andy Burnham into the memos…so he accidentally chose the wrong side. Options are thin on the ground.
Polly Toynbee, writing in the Guardian, puts forward Angela Eagle as leader (presumably she finds her “charismatic”, although God knows why). She praises Eagle’s “rhino hide”, and derides Corbyn’s character by suggesting he is being controlled by a “consiglieri”[sic] who have “screwed his courage to the sticking point[sic]”. Not once in her column does Toynbee mention Eagle’s vote FOR the Iraq war, or that she was one of the 180+ MPs who shamefully abstained from the welfare bill vote under Harriet Harmon’s brief, craven leadership.
Elsewhere, and on laughably flimsy evidence, Corbyn has been accused of anti-Semitism, attacking a reporter and hiding from Tom Watson. He is a weak but decent man, but at once also ambitious and conceited. He is all faults to all men.
Will Hutton has joined his voice to the chorus, his bilious out-pouring all but calling for Corbyn to be violently overthrown. One thing is sure – the Corbyn Phenomenon must never happen again. A new-New Labour is needed:
A well-led Labour party with a crafted cluster of policies to secure a better capitalism…Its constitution would put the election of its leader in the hands of the parliamentary party.
The workers’ party must be reformed as a capitalist party, and it must remove the choice of leaders from the unreliable hands of its members. He concludes:
The Labour party must be reclaimed – for the sake of British values, for British democracy and for the very future of our country. Nothing less will do.
He doesn’t say who the party is being reclaimed by, or from whom it is being reclaimed. He simply, and in purely Orwellian language, demands that the minority over-rules the majority for the sake of “democracy”.
A last-second plan has been hastily assembled from the broken pieces of the status quo. A three-step plan that involves a discredited referendum being ignored, and a newly castrated opposition being re-staffed with millennial Blairites. These steps are secondary of course: First, Corbyn must go. They don’t know which colour our revolution will be, as yet. But they will make damn sure it isn’t red.
Ammended: July 4th 2016, 21:05
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Maybe that behind the story there´s also a war between Wallstreet and the City of London (as legitimate as the vote was):
„UK, USA, EU, Seen in Context: Collection of my Brexit Articles“ https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2016/07/07/uk-usa-eu-seen-in-a-context-collection-of-my-brexit-articles/
Andreas Schlüter
Sociologist
Berlin, Germany
Sadly Joe Oliver didn’t want Brexit. I was so disappointed by his show on Brexit. He yammered on about the British economy. We are not the economy Joe. I wasn’t the only who found his yuk yuk take on Brexit to be disappointing. See Rick Salutin’s article titled “Canada needs to find a left-wing alternative to right-wing populism” – http://bit.ly/29sOZEq
What anyone wants is essentially defined by what they define the situation to be relative to themselves – or more accurately how they define themselves in relation to whatever’s going on. Because the core motivation of survival and thrival is to move away from the threat/pain or the toxic and towards the security/pleasure or nutrient. BUT we all define or identify our selves differently and in different moments differently. Nearly all of our self-definitions is below our radar – that is – it is acquired conditioning of strategies of survival. Enter those who are aware of this and use that to enact an identity of shepherding their people – holding order while encouraging the unfolding of harmony as they see it – against the ‘dangerous’ eruptions of triggered fears and rages. Enter those who see this as the right or power to wield the fear and rage of people’s largely… Read more »
I thought the Queen did want it, but just wasn’t supposed to…?
Interesting article plus the comments are good too Just a thought, If the Elites of both UK parties, not to mention the US parties had not been in a position to take us to war [on a lie] we would have had; No toppling of Iraq and Libya, despots the leaders may have been, but they were Iraqi and Libyan despots. No real intervention in Syria would have happened, the vote of British elitist MP’s was a close run thing and the decision of! No shock and awe in Syria was not taken, the Brits was said to be letting the side down [whose side] and would no longer be in a position to influence world issues. Yet the US and mainland Europe followed the British lead. This means we would not have had the mass influx of immigrants, real or just economic migrants? This would have meant no destabilisation… Read more »
There are ‘puppet masters’ behind the theatre of politics. While regarding the puppets as actually having the power to rule – the show or diversionary device goes on. What do you think Chilcot redacted? The fingerprints of the who and why. Power cartels don’t seek money or oil – they seek control over the ongoing supply and demand of money, oil or any other actual or induced dependence. And within that they seek mindshare – which is to effectively frame and set the narrative – and back it with subverting the law – in terms that lock out threat or rival to their power – and lock in the suckers. They don’t operate in terms of politics as we conceive it – and that is why they set everyone else up to undermine, weaken and destroy themselves and each other with an unbelievable willingness to lie – only it isn’t… Read more »
Depends on who counted the votes on what the betting outcome will be. Even those that believe in Democracy will of been surprised by this Vote especially since the employment of This Prime Minister is still up for grabs. Seems that 5th Cousin of the Qveen does not count for that much unless has all been part of the plan?
..will have been surprised… NOT …will of been surprised…
Unless citizens are overthrowing this Government by Violent, Guerilla Warfare, nothing positive is taking place!
It is more widely known now that corrupt state authorities sends covert incitement to violence and destruction into the ranks of any movement of opposition or solidarity that grows enough to come onto their radar. So they have their broad spectrum dominance – not unlike Herod in the symbol of the Nativity -only that was terror was openly wielded without justification or apology. In our times it is secretly wielded beneath pretence of justification and apology. Regardless any crap that accrued or was put into it – the basic story is one of growing beneath the radar until the readiness and calling to come out in true witness to the love as the heart of our true Humanity. Of course this presence shared illuminates the stark nature of the hate, rage and terror that imprints itself AS the mind of coercion and deceit and operates a mask whereby to capture… Read more »
Two additions to my Brexit articles:
„Addition to my Brexit Articles: Mission Accomplished?“ https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2016/07/06/addition-to-my-brexit-articles-mission-accomplished/
&
„USA, UK, EU, Further Addition to my Brexit Articles: CIA and IRA“ https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2016/07/06/usa-uk-eu-further-addition-to-my-brexit-articles-cia-and-ira/
Andreas Schlüter
Sociologist
Berlin, Germany
True democracy? Shock horror!! I left the UK out of disgust at the first unwarranted invasion of a foreign country (Serbia). If this trend continues I’ll come back and join in. Hip Hip Hooray for simple folk!!!!!
Brilliant article Kit – Thank you
Britain was under attack long before Brexit. Glad to see some fighting spirit in the UK. Heads on a pike would be a good beginning.
I get that you have hatred issues. How many deaths and how much pain and misery do you need to assuage it – oh – hang on there are other people in the world too… It appears there are not enough people or worlds to assuage the feeling of unpaid debt in vengeance. I’m not saying you shouldn’t feel what you feel – but that when hate is given the trigger finger – hatred goes forth and multiplies. yes I know it would make you ‘feel better’ for a while – but truly feeling better is not merely the temporary suspension of feeling bad – but a quality of self acceptance that automatically shares out. Self-hatred runs the world – because the attempt to dissociate and displace it out, away and onto the world operates the ‘controlled narrative’ . The lie that hides. Yes – to due process of law… Read more »
You’re idealistic diatribe will change when the bullets start flying
Bait away – but is that all you have to say? You reveal the god of your thinking is terror – no matter how masked as self-righteous ‘defence’. No doubt your world proves you right – but of course that is exactly how all power conflict operates; triggering a collapse or undermining of function through targeted terror that takes every and any kind of form of deceit. Then it runs through puppets whilst sucking out the light and life. It isn’t enough to hate – even though a sense of betrayal and violation is hateful – but I don’t expect anyone to take my word for it. Experience your way and find out if it is in your true interests at all. I don’t say not to say no to abuse, to not check and restrain and hold to account, and to educate and teach by example – for no… Read more »
At last an insightful and intelligent view. Here I find a being who mirrors my own view of things. Live with love not hate or fear trust to the moment to know how we will act. If we are guided by the sick media and by those with vested interest in wars and chaos then that is what we will get. Listen to your true heart, not to your conditioned mind.
What we appreciate, appreciates. And a true willingness for life – for communication and right relationship – seeks and recognizes itself in others – and I appreciate seeing and appreciating this in others regardless of agreement or not – but as an integrity of communication – and I feel one of the most useful skills we need to value and grow is an integrity of communication. On could say our mind is hacked – and we need to re-establish integrity – but regardless the attack theory – and all its evidences, I feel that a core integrity is an unavailability to attack thinking. And when such thinking is provoked or triggered, it illuminates a ‘back door’ of unrecognized dis-integrity that can now be re-evaluated because it has come into conscious awareness. Schopenhauer identified 28 tricks and deceits used to ‘win’ an argument – as part of noting their use in… Read more »
Binra – while your writing is obviously from the heart, and may be true or even tangentially relevant to each topic you rely on, the length and meandering nature of your text means many including myself, find ourselves lost before the end.
This results in, sadly,
tl;dr.
Headrush69 No call to be sad – are you really sad? Or am I a bit interesting but then again frustrating and that then feels a sense of loss of what perhaps you hoped for? Perhaps you operate a set of rules that are setting an agenda? They may be useful and worthy rules, but they can rule out what doesn’t conform to them… You may simply jump to the end – and alight as you are interested or moved. Does anyone suffer not reading what I write? I have a sense that to grok any part may hold a significance that might be enough to abide with and feel into – it isn’t coming from a store of ideas and isn’t seeking storage. However, I am not writing in a vacuum – and I appreciate your response. I share what interests me to a similar willingness. I believe what… Read more »
Has Brexit triggered an anti-democractic “Color Revolution”?
Hmmm…A question for George ‘I sold out my Jewish Cousin to a NAZI for his gold fillings’ Soros, I Guess.
Have they actually buried Jo Cox MP yet?
Have any of the Globalist minions in the Commons penciled in date yet in their diary’s for the funeral?
Will Tony Bliar find his way to Europe to find himself in the Hague?
Will the FBI find Tony Bliar innocent like the Witch Clinton?
Why was Jean-Claude Juncker casting an Aleister Crowley Majic Spell over Nigel Farage?
Will the Communist leader of the Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyne fall of the side of a Mountain or suffer a Myocardial Infarction.
So many Questions.
But What I really, really want to know is how much Buckfast did Nicola Sturgeon consume before she decided she was going to Veto the Brexit Referendum?
In my opinion Will Hutton is a dreadful character, and a rather determined Sinophobic racist to boot. As for Corbyn, he represents a break with theTOTAL Israeli control of Western politics, so, one war or the other, he will never be allowed to lead Labour to an election, unless it is securely rigged.
Mostly dribble. The people wanted out Nigel Farage gave us that oppertunity. We took it. We voted out despite all the threats of doom and gloom. We knew what we were walking into but we took the risk. We ignored the bias BBC/sky and the others with their threats. We did not start the aftermath of mud slinging usually started by the old establishment closed shop called Parliment. We saw the mps for what they are. They don’t listen and STILL.wont listen. Rich business now threatening to challenge a legal vote. Yobs and yes i mean yobs protesting in london. One on being interviewed said she voted remain becsuse the EU gave us the NHS . Shows how low our education system is. Certainly a stitch up on who will.be the next pm. But the people of GB will not be treated like Ireland, worn down until the vote is… Read more »
Here are a few questions to be put to the following BBC journalists (Laura Kuennsberg, Mark Urban, Evan Davis, David Dimbleby, JO Coburn): Who pays your salaries? Do you believe that ‘he who pays the piper calls the tune’? If so, to whom do you owe your blatant contravention of impartiality during the EU debate? It clearly isn’t the license payor, is it……? If MPs behaved the way you have in terms of flagrant dereliction of the BBC charter, do you think you would be calling for their resignations? Do you think you should all resign not just from the BBC but from journalism? Do you believe that your role as journalists is to be MI6 sock puppets manipulating citizen democracy for the benefit of unaccountable elites? If so, why should your pensions from the BBC not be cancelled and you all thrown on the streets as penniless as we… Read more »
The illusion of freedom is laid bare. Do as you are told – or else… Journalism is discouraged and directed narratives pretending to be journalism, assert State power. Governance is also discouraged and powerful lobbies operate illusions of governance through capture and use of law as a weapon against the supposed charter of the Law as a servant for all. Who are the puppet masters? Are they private banks instituted and protected by law under the guise of ‘protecting the Economy?’ Are they also those who worked to bring about the events by which ‘economies’ need such ‘protection?’ Are they also puppets of deceits and coercions that then become their ‘currency’ of exchange and communication? Operating as trans-national corporate entities in cartels of regulatory protected control over populations with less and less check or balance to stripping out profit from increasingly destructive ‘services’. The evil that works through so many… Read more »
It’s worth noting that the BBC has confirmed that its commitment to the Charter and its public purposes is largely a public relations exercise. By way of example in response to the Dame Janet Smith review earlier this year we heard: “The values that all of us who work here believe in – are the values we live, day by day. And where everyone feels able to speak truth to power.” (Tony Hall) “We need to restore the public’s trust in the BBC. We need to demonstrate – through our actions – that the BBC’s values are for everyone and non-negotiable.” (Rona Fairhead) However at a tribunal in Birmingham in February 2011(Maistry v BBC) the BBC claimed that the BBC Values were no more than a corporate mission statement which it did not expect journalists to take seriously. It said the same applied to the values underpinning the NHS. EJ… Read more »
There is no political issue of this magnitude which is or ever could be an unalloyed blessing for every stripe and variety of thinking within things as complicated as a working power-elite structure. The same is true for the interests of the poor and disenfranchised. Whichever way the vote had gone–or no vote at all–there’d have been some aspects which had, however intended or not, positive and negative features for both the political elites (or some of them) and the political outcasts (or some of them).
Too much simplistic analysis is wonderful news for the PTB.
This is the nature of our general human experience of life unfolding. The attempt of the mind to define or unify and ‘control’ as current and dominant narrative of self-validation, operates as perpetual power struggle. I put quotes around control, because stories come after the fact – but stories accepted and believed also operate as the basis from which to act – and therefore the quick-mind(ed) runs reaction – where there is no pause to discern and verify the integrity of the information. Thus are we mis-taken when triggered into conditioned reaction – and likewise easily deceived by artful targeting of our deeper conditioning in respect of the fear, guilt, hate and shame that is an open secret within a society of personae masking the denial of such identity confusion AS the narrative continuity of a virtual sense of self-commentary and validation. Power in personal terms seeks to outsource and… Read more »
If you really want it to be factually correct then you really ought to do your research in the UK and not from the US – Americanisation of words, such as color instead of colour, gives yhe game away!
Colour is a word we use in British English (there is no such thing as UK english). The term Color Revolution is rendered this way by us British English speakers simply because it emphasises the US origin of these events. I hope this clarifies the situation for those who do not understand. There is no game to give away.
But what does the term mean as it’s used here? I’m a native English-speaker and I don’t know.
You don’t know what a Color Revolution is? A little Googling will fix that.
http://colorrevolutionsandgeopolitics.blogspot.co.uk/ I put the link here after writing the following One strategy to ferment disturbance by which to undermine the current social order of any nation (and replace it) is to fund and ferment identity politics. Whilst identity politics may be part of any situation – the feeding of such movements as a vanguard of freedom and democracy makes a ‘trojan horse’ through which to sow dissent and destabilize communication. Astroturfing operates a false grass roots movement that appears in various media as if bottom up. Not so. Various sexual identity movements associate with ‘rainbow’ as symbol of tolerance for diversity of sexual orientation, or pink as freedom from previous social male stereotype. Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transvestite (LGBT) identity rights struggles are used as a political weapon against traditional society and values. That does not mean that there are not legitimate causes in finding acceptance rather than denial and… Read more »
As Греъм Стивънсън says – the use of the US form is deliberate, since “Color Revolution” is a creation of US psy-opery.
If I were any of these elitists I would not be fool enough to ride on only one outcome. Controlled opposition has to allow the sense of opposition a feeling of movement. Without movements to co-opt – there would be no way to maintain the sense of power as a dynamic and creative capacity – as opposed to the depleting and destructive effects of jui jitsu of using the opponents life-force to defeat them. In many parts of the world, opposition is violently crushed, or leaders corrupted and compromised to betray it. Or it is sown with division to fall apart by its own hand regardless of collateral expense. Brexit may yield the balkanisation of GB while Banking mergers and ‘trade deals’ operate the real ‘unity’ of centralised corporate governance. Though to some form does matter – to the puppet masters it matter not what arrangements the puppets dance or… Read more »
It also annoys me that as a British citizen I was not allowed to vote in the referendum. I would have voted Leave. Not because of any personalities but simply so Britain can regain its sovereignty and wrest back control over its own destiny from the faceless bureaucrats in Brussels. I haven’t lived in Britain for over 15 years but I am still British born and bred and will probably return one day. Why did I not have a vote when Commonwealth citizens who are not even British and will probably eventually return to live permanently in their own countries (just as I will probably return to live in mine – Britain – eventually) got to vote if they happened to be in Britain at the time of the Referendum? Britain must be about the only modern democracy in the world to not consider citizenship to be a necessary and… Read more »
You were disenfranchised, after a fashion, as a sop to the people you support as a Leaver. Being a demographic who, technically, is benefiting from being an immigrant abroad (you’re not an ex-pat, you’re an economic migrant, live with it.) the Leave campaign really didn’t want you. Enjoy that feeling, matey.
Yes, by ensuring that British citizens living longterm (primarily) in EU countries were purposely disenfranchised was a clever gambit. The only British legislation that affects them by remote control – and they can’t vote on it.
As a longterm expat, I was in this position myself. It did save me from having to make a choice between an plummy Eton toff acting in his own interests, and a plummy Eton toff acting in his own interests.
Reblogged this on TheFlippinTruth.
Kit, Only one small problem – RUPERT MURDOCH wanted Brexit, as did Lord Rothermere, the Barclay Brothers and a dozen other British newspaper proprietors, and they have been campaigning for it for years. Brexit is not the people’s revolution, it is Rupert Murdoch’s revolution, bought and paid for with years of bribery of British politicians through remaindered autobiographies and of British journalists through expensive feature articles and opinion pieces that no one ever read. The BBC’s “balanced” reporting of the campaign involved concluding every warning from anyone with a quote from Leave that it was just another example of project fear. Michael Gove’s former home, the Today progamme being particularly biased. So the real question that needs to be asked is why were Rupert Murdoch and the MSM so behind Brexit? After all every color revolution has a purpose and it is normally decided in Washington. So what was Washington’s… Read more »
The liberal-media-appointed Good Guys and celebrities backed Remain. The liberal-media-appointed Bad Guys (Murdoch, Johnson et al) backed Leave. The “debate” was dumbed down and facile. The illusion of opposition was retained, while the “smart and thinking people” were left in no doubt what to vote for, and meanwhile lowest common denominator racist divisions were given a boost, which of course suits the elites perfectly. The idea was for Remain to triumph and be sold as a victory for inclusiveness, Love, rainbows, unicorns, puppies and universal joy, while the idea of leaving Europe was forever tainted as racist old-fashioned and the purview of professional loons and Baddies. This, like the victory of Obama and the likely victory of Clinton is all part of the creeping agenda to sell the destruction of democracy and free thought as “progress”, and fascism as “anti-fascism.” it’s all gone (probably temporarily) pear shaped now of course.… Read more »
True the original revolution, the French revolution, was instigated by the aristocrats, so who knows where this will lead. But the idea that Remain would triumph was definitely not on everyone’s agenda (hedge funds anyone) and certainly not on Rupert Murdoch’s. Rupert Murdoch is not just a “liberal-media-appointed Bad Guy”, he controls most of the British media and is the Kingmaker of British politics who destroyed Eton educated US citizen Boris Johnson prospects of becoming PM simply with a waive of his headlines. As for the Nobel Peace Prize winning POUS who was sold to the Great American Public as being for inclusiveness, Love, rainbows, unicorns, puppies and universal joy, etc., whatever he says, I tend to now believe the opposite. Obama was against Brexit just as he was against war, nuclear weapons, drone strikes, deporting immigrants, etc. and was going to close down Guantanamo. So why is Brexit good… Read more »
RE : “Obama was against Brexit just as he was against war, nuclear weapons, drone strikes, deporting immigrants, etc. and was going to close down Guantanamo.”
Amazing. What possible reason would Obama have for being duplicitous about his support of “Remain”? For crying out loud! The paranoia runs deep here!
We either have story:
A. Obama was straight about Brexit and duplicitous about war, nuclear weapons, drone strikes, deporting immigrants, Guantanamo, etc.
or
B. Obama is duplicitous
“What possible reason would Obama have for being duplicitous about his support of “Remain”?”
TTIP and the threat of the euro to the dollar.
What evidence do we have that Washington supported Brexit:
The position of Rupert Murdoch and his media empire
(on this read: How Roy Cohn Helped Rupert Murdoch
Consortium News, June 19, 2016,
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/06/19/how-roy-cohn-helped-rupert-murdoch-2/
“TTIP and the threat of the euro to the dollar.”
That’s not even a complete sentence, let alone a coherent piece of reasoning.
“The liberal-media-appointed Good Guys and celebrities backed Remain. The liberal-media-appointed Bad Guys (Murdoch, Johnson et al) backed Leave. The “debate” was dumbed down and facile. The illusion of opposition was retained, while the “smart and thinking people” were left in no doubt what to vote for, and meanwhile lowest common denominator racist divisions were given a boost, which of course suits the elites perfectly.”
I’m not sure I understand you. Do I understand you to mean that there was no real and fierce division of opinion on this matter within the ranks of the elite power-wielders? –that all of them really were in favor of “Remain”?
They were already “In” and nothing could have been simpler than to just stay there.
Your last question sort of answers your previous question. Supposing there were serious divisions within the elite, do you think they’d seek to settle them by letting the common people decide? I think we have to see the referendum as another example of the kind of political theatre we are subjected to now in place of real debate and real alternatives. The PTB thought they could control it sufficiently to get the desired outcome – which (judging by the frenzied response to the Leave vote) was Remain. But for once the narrative ran out of their control. The vote has pulled aside the curtain a little. It’s revealed the extent to which many of the prominent rightist Brexit proponents were simply the other hand of the puppeteer. They never expected to win, and didn’t want to. But their dismay and abdication gives a genuine opportunity to those left-leaning Brexiters to… Read more »
Excellent response Catte 🙂
Ralph, Britain first, the BNP, and various other loonies wanted brexit too. Is it their doing?
None of them are responsible for over 17 million people voting leave. Personally I can say that I was not influenced by any msm viewpoint other than to harden my resolve against the EU.. I don’t have any liking for farage or gove or Johnson, but without farage at least, we would not have even had the chance to vote on the issue. So thanks Nigel, but you’ve served your purpose. Now let’s move in a sensible direction.
Nit picking over who was responsible and what their motives were gets us nowhere, especially as the people you mention in that respect are the ones we are going to leave behind. I hope!
No it was the doing of The Sun, The Daily Mail, The Daily Express, The Daily Telegraph, Sky News, etc.
If you live in a world of outlawed bendy bananas of course you would vote Leave, especially if the austerity twins, call me Dave and I want to be called George, are backing Remain.
However, let’s not ponder on the past let’s all search for what we agree on.
However the 17 million British, Commonwealth and Irish citizens voted (it still annoys me I a British citizen (soon to be a subject again?) could not vote), it was certainly not Jeremy Corbyn’s fault and he now needs everyone’s support so that the Left can finally calmly watch the meltdown of the Tory party knowing that we are safe from the bastards for another 100 years.
” it was the doing of The Sun, The Daily Mail, The Daily Express, The Daily Telegraph, Sky News, etc.
If you live in a world of outlawed bendy bananas of course you would vote Leave, especially if the austerity twins, call me Dave and I want to be called George, are backing Remain.”
Not in my world. None of the people I know read the tabloids, or believe the bendy banana stories. You cannot perpetuate the lie that brexit voters are useful idiots. To do so places you squarely in the same camp as the Guardian. To move on in a healthy way, you have to accept that intelligent people voted with both hearts and minds, regarding the MSM with the same disdain as you do. Or are you someone who knows better, an elite? For that is the way your comments come across.
Where have I said Brexit voters are useful idiots?
All I have said is that you cannot call the Brexit vote and the Leave campaign anti-establishment when it was backed by :
– the press barons,
– over half the Tory party,
was led by
– an Old Etonian and
– a former BBC journalist
with the support of that former City trader and public schoolboy Nigel Farage.
Maybe these people are in your “world” or maybe they are not, but to me they meet the definition of an elite and of the establishment.
I did not say you called brexit voters useful idiots. I said you perpetuate the lie that they are useful idiots. By claiming that this “revolution” was inspired and backed by murdoch and the right press, who mostly campaigned on the politics of hate, there is the implication that leave won because people read and believed the rubbish written in those publications. That is tantamount to branding leave voters useful idiots – people who followed a dog whistle with no idea they were being led astray. Of course murdoch et al are elite establishment figures, do you think we don’t know that? Quite apart from which, you seem to have a completely different view regarding the US role in the EU. The EU is no threat to the US, quite the opposite. The EU does their bidding, ttip being a prime example. Read a little history of the EU and… Read more »
Rupert Murdoch is an opportunist and a pragmatist rather than an ideologue. He wants to find and to ride the wave of populism that will net him future profits and ensure his papers can continue (as he sees it) to shape and influence public opinion. That is why his papers were supporting the Leave vote.
If a poll had been carried out before the Brexit referendum and found that most of the readers of News Corporation’s tabloids preferred Remain, these papers would have campaigned for the Remain vote.
Likewise Boris Johnson supported the Leave vote because he hoped to ride that and hitch his campaign to replace David Cameron as Prime Minister to it.
Is it too difficult for people to understand that different sections of the Establishment can disagree over an issue and take polarised positions, all in their own self-interest?
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that both Brexit and the current US election are being fought between similar largely false polarities. The media sells the choice as being between dumbed down racist “populism” and neoliberal faux “inclusiveness.” Whether or not Trump and Murdoch know it they are the Baddies in this play, and they are probably supposed to be on the losing side. Johnson, the old Etonian, knew it I think. Hence his immediate diminishing of the victory he’d been handed. He never had any intention of implementing Article 50, whatever the vote produced.
Jen
Of course you are right the Establishment can be divided, even the Empire of Chaos is at times divided.
But Rupert Murdoch is not just an an opportunist and he has been shilling for the Americans since the days of Ronald Reagan, see, How Roy Cohn Helped Rupert Murdoch, Consortium News, June 19, 2016,
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/06/19/how-roy-cohn-helped-rupert-murdoch-2/
Without Murdoch we would not have had a referendum.
Murdoch’s papers and television stations did not just take a straw poll at the start of the referendum campaign and plump for Leave. They have been anti-EU for decades, delighting in reporting the supposed outlawing of bendy bananas etc. Likewise the Daily Mail.
So the question that intrigues me is why Rupert Murdoch is so anti-EU and what is his real agenda. Whatever it is I am sure it is not in my interests or the interests of the British public.
To assume he is avowedly anti-EU because he took an anti-EU stance on this occasion is a bit sweeping. The real question is ‘why did the referendum happen at all?’ It certainly wasn’t intended to be an exercise in democracy.
Why did Cameron call the referendum? Because he does what he is told. Who tells him what to do? The lobbies that put him there and kept him there and look after him as they have Blair? Your guess is as good as mine – but Cameron knows what he is allowed to know. I don’t feel to give the Elitist personae the power they love to be seen wearing. I feel a larger scope – a larger script than a scam by which to give up consciousness for a power that reveals itself as primal hate. Whatever Life is, is ‘bigger’ than our props and scripts and seeing the props and scripts allows a different set of meanings through a different script. Not a different remake of the same movie. Whatever movie is running – your part in it can be your conscious acceptance for your chosen purposes –… Read more »
Jen
Murdoch’s stable of UK newspapers were actually on either side of the Brexit vote. The Sun was for Brexit, the Times for Remain (strongly so in fact). Amazingly, The Sunday Times was for Brexit (which must be a bit strange unless the readership is radically different to the sister daily), whereas Sky News was strongly for Remain.
Murdoch either knows his four constituencies very well and ordered his editors accordingly, or his own editors took their own decisions.
Neither surely. That just demonstrates the entire phoniness of the alleged “debate” and of Murdoch’s position. While the clowns of “Rexit” were standing off against the clowns of Remain the genuine issues of what the EU is, what it does, where it’s going were left undiscussed and the Lexit argument became so sidelined even most Labour voters seemed to forget it existed.
@ RTJ1211
It’s ultimately in News Corporation’s interests for its newspapers and TV stations to support both Leave and Remain in ways that more or less reflect the views of the audiences that read or watch those outlets’ output. By allowing News Corporation’s outlets to support different and contrasting points of view, Rupert Murdoch gives the impression that he and his organisation are neutral. This impression enables News Corporation (through its editors; I believe Murdoch does not give orders directly but News Corporation employees work in an environment of self-censorship and trying to please their bosses) to shape and direct the Brexit discussion.
Here is a list of prominent people that endorsed Remain: • Governor of the Bank of England • International Monetary Fund • Institute for Fiscal Studies • Confederation of British Industry • Leaders/heads of state of every single other member of the EU • President of the United States of America • Eight former US Treasury Secretaries • The chief executives of most of the top 100 companies in the UK including Marks and Spencer, BT, Asda, Vodafone, Virgin, IBM, BMW etc. • Kofi Annan, the former Secretary General of the United Nations • All living former Prime Ministers of the UK (from both parties) • The Prime Minister of the UK • The leader of the Labour Party • The Leader of the Liberal Democrats • The Leader of the Green Party • The Leader of the Scottish National Party • The leader of Plaid Cymru • Leader of… Read more »