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		By: Quizzical		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quizzical]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47363&quot;&gt;Lavrentiy Beria&lt;/a&gt;.

Well I don&#039;t know about your arse, and I don&#039;t think I want to, but I agree with mog.  I have just finished reading Nick Davis book, Flat Earth News - well worth a  read -  that supports Kit&#039;s view of the role of the media in shaping our reality. Frightening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47363">Lavrentiy Beria</a>.</p>
<p>Well I don&#8217;t know about your arse, and I don&#8217;t think I want to, but I agree with mog.  I have just finished reading Nick Davis book, Flat Earth News &#8211; well worth a  read &#8211;  that supports Kit&#8217;s view of the role of the media in shaping our reality. Frightening.</p>
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		By: chrisb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Corbyn&#039;s chances of winning a national election are hampered by his refusal (so far) to consider the role that immigration plays in capping workers&#039; wages and in overstretching the NHS, education and housing. He needs to come up with credible policies that convince people outside of his own narrow base. Vague promises to tax the rich will fool no one.
The issue of immigration also makes Corbyn&#039;s critics within the PLP totally irrelevant to current political discussion. Were they to split off from Labour, they will find a cold welcome from their hoped for corporate sponsors. Why fund neoliberal-lite when you can sponsor the real thing?
Unless the issue of immigration is addressed, UKIP will continue to take more of the working class vote, potentially splitting it three ways if we have a SDP 2.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corbyn&#8217;s chances of winning a national election are hampered by his refusal (so far) to consider the role that immigration plays in capping workers&#8217; wages and in overstretching the NHS, education and housing. He needs to come up with credible policies that convince people outside of his own narrow base. Vague promises to tax the rich will fool no one.<br />
The issue of immigration also makes Corbyn&#8217;s critics within the PLP totally irrelevant to current political discussion. Were they to split off from Labour, they will find a cold welcome from their hoped for corporate sponsors. Why fund neoliberal-lite when you can sponsor the real thing?<br />
Unless the issue of immigration is addressed, UKIP will continue to take more of the working class vote, potentially splitting it three ways if we have a SDP 2.</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47350&quot;&gt;OffG Editor&lt;/a&gt;.

See http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=savinglabour.com for more detailed information - though it is sketchy at best and has been registered through an outfit in Scottsdale, Arizona.
It seems they have a lot to hide!
You could try asking GoDaddy.com or DomainsByProxy.com for the information - though I doubt they will provide it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47350">OffG Editor</a>.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=savinglabour.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=savinglabour.com</a> for more detailed information &#8211; though it is sketchy at best and has been registered through an outfit in Scottsdale, Arizona.<br />
It seems they have a lot to hide!<br />
You could try asking GoDaddy.com or DomainsByProxy.com for the information &#8211; though I doubt they will provide it.</p>
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		By: fceska68		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fceska68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;https://francescamansfield.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;francesca-mansfield&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="https://francescamansfield.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/" rel="nofollow">francesca-mansfield</a>.</p>
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		By: icecream		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[icecream]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47338&quot;&gt;tutisicecream&lt;/a&gt;.

They haven&#039;t worked out a way to make money from their website and they can&#039;t make money from print anymore
To be fair, the paper has gone downhill because nobody is paying for it anymore, they are more and more full of bullshizzle because they need the money desperately. They do still make some interesting stuff, but they wouldn&#039;t be able to stay open without shilling stuff as well]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47338">tutisicecream</a>.</p>
<p>They haven&#8217;t worked out a way to make money from their website and they can&#8217;t make money from print anymore<br />
To be fair, the paper has gone downhill because nobody is paying for it anymore, they are more and more full of bullshizzle because they need the money desperately. They do still make some interesting stuff, but they wouldn&#8217;t be able to stay open without shilling stuff as well</p>
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		By: Lavrentiy Beria		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47364</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lavrentiy Beria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47340&quot;&gt;Kathleen Lowrey&lt;/a&gt;.

Infantile !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47340">Kathleen Lowrey</a>.</p>
<p>Infantile !</p>
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		By: Lavrentiy Beria		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lavrentiy Beria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2016 23:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47347&quot;&gt;mog&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent piece of writing.......My arse !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47347">mog</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent piece of writing&#8230;&#8230;.My arse !</p>
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		By: Lavrentiy Beria		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lavrentiy Beria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2016 23:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47355&quot;&gt;poetrymuseum&lt;/a&gt;.

There is feeling a bit persecuted
There is feeling somewhat  paranoid
There is also stark, staring, barking mad]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/17/labour-coup-falls-back-on-dishonesty-identity-politics-and-smears/#comment-47355">poetrymuseum</a>.</p>
<p>There is feeling a bit persecuted<br />
There is feeling somewhat  paranoid<br />
There is also stark, staring, barking mad</p>
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		By: poetrymuseum		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[poetrymuseum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isabel Hardman said on the July 2015 SPECTATOR Podcast, yes, last year, BEFORE Jeremy was elected :  &quot;The Blairites I have spoken to say that it is better for him (Corbyn) to try to form a Shadow Cabinet, lots of people will refuse, then he tries to lead with a skeleton leadership team, and purge Labour HQ, so that there is no institutional memory, and then as much as two years after this, his leadership will fall...&quot;     Quite clear that the plot had begun before he was elected, to ensure he had no support to lead, and then they decided to depose him more quickly than two years following Brexit.    Rosie Brocklehurst]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isabel Hardman said on the July 2015 SPECTATOR Podcast, yes, last year, BEFORE Jeremy was elected :  &#8220;The Blairites I have spoken to say that it is better for him (Corbyn) to try to form a Shadow Cabinet, lots of people will refuse, then he tries to lead with a skeleton leadership team, and purge Labour HQ, so that there is no institutional memory, and then as much as two years after this, his leadership will fall&#8230;&#8221;     Quite clear that the plot had begun before he was elected, to ensure he had no support to lead, and then they decided to depose him more quickly than two years following Brexit.    Rosie Brocklehurst</p>
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