<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>
	Comments on: An American in Latakia: “this was no revolution&#034;	</title>
	<atom:link href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/</link>
	<description>because facts really should be sacred</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2016 21:47:01 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>
	hourly	</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>
	1	</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0</generator>
	<item>
		<title>
		By: Dick100		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52101</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick100]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2016 21:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://off-guardian.org/?p=29875#comment-52101</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52086&quot;&gt;michaelk&lt;/a&gt;.

Which is what Chuechilltld us to do in 1940 and Assad told the Syrians to do now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52086">michaelk</a>.</p>
<p>Which is what Chuechilltld us to do in 1940 and Assad told the Syrians to do now.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: dick100		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52100</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dick100]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://off-guardian.org/?p=29875#comment-52100</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52090&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt;.

John,  it&#039;s called a False Flag Attack.  Obama and Kerry hasn&#039;t lost control of heir Jihadist paramilitarues .      It was deliberate  and intended as a means of attacking Syria and Russia.  It is too much of a coincident  that it occurred the evening before the UN General Assembly meeting.    lastly the news videos were prepared in advance,  there was no way it could have been got out thatquickly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52090">John</a>.</p>
<p>John,  it&#8217;s called a False Flag Attack.  Obama and Kerry hasn&#8217;t lost control of heir Jihadist paramilitarues .      It was deliberate  and intended as a means of attacking Syria and Russia.  It is too much of a coincident  that it occurred the evening before the UN General Assembly meeting.    lastly the news videos were prepared in advance,  there was no way it could have been got out thatquickly.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: dick100		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52099</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dick100]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://off-guardian.org/?p=29875#comment-52099</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52094&quot;&gt;michaelk&lt;/a&gt;.

They are address Kerry and Obama.    Lavrov and the Russians&#039; problem is that America has not abandoned its key War Aim of the overthrow of the Syrian government and installation of an American client one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52094">michaelk</a>.</p>
<p>They are address Kerry and Obama.    Lavrov and the Russians&#8217; problem is that America has not abandoned its key War Aim of the overthrow of the Syrian government and installation of an American client one.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: dick100		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52098</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dick100]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 19:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://off-guardian.org/?p=29875#comment-52098</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52097&quot;&gt;Willem&lt;/a&gt;.

Willem,  one reason for the Dutch priest&#039;s reply  is that America wants the privatisation of health care, education, and the rest of the economy trying to impose Monetarism on Syria.  Kerry visited 8 times between 2003 and 2010 trying to get them to do this.  They refused.  Then this started.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52097">Willem</a>.</p>
<p>Willem,  one reason for the Dutch priest&#8217;s reply  is that America wants the privatisation of health care, education, and the rest of the economy trying to impose Monetarism on Syria.  Kerry visited 8 times between 2003 and 2010 trying to get them to do this.  They refused.  Then this started.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Willem		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52097</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Willem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 17:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://off-guardian.org/?p=29875#comment-52097</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing this story at OffG. Reminds me of another story by Frans van der Lugt, a Dutch priest who worked in Syria since 1966 and also said that the &quot;revolution&quot; came from outside and was not wanted by the Syrian people themselves. See (in Dutch, couldn&#039;t find a translation) here:
http://community.dewereldmorgen.be/blog/mario-bergen/2011/09/12/jezu-etenpater-frans-van-der-lugt-informeert-vanuit-syri
This article was written in 2011, and in the article Van der Lugt explains that the &quot;rebels&quot; only existed because they were paid from outside. These rebels were freighthening because they a) had weapons, and b) had no clue how to govern a state or even a city or a village that they conquered from the government. This usually meant hunger for the people that were conquered (explained, in Arabic, Dutch subtitles at: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MhQHg6ivGPg).
Van der Lugt makes a case in the article that despite the regime of Assad isn&#039;t perfect, Syria should opt for it&#039;s regime. Syria needs to be led by a unified government whose main interest is infrastructure, pensions, health care, education, work, and not religion. That these things need priority and religion does not, according to a priest who is in the middle of a war situation, makes it a quite convincing statement to me.
For an outsider (like me) it is difficult with all the propaganda that is spewed out by our friends from the media, what to make of the political meaning of Syria. Eye witness reports like Lily&#039;s reported at OffG are very helpful in the interpretation.
I think it is very courageous as an American (or any person from any country) to stay in a war zone despite all the dangers. Frans van der Lugt did the same, I believe, out of solidarity with the Syrian people. It did not end well for him, he was killed in 2014 in Homs by Al-Nusra...
Please, take care Lily.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this story at OffG. Reminds me of another story by Frans van der Lugt, a Dutch priest who worked in Syria since 1966 and also said that the &#8220;revolution&#8221; came from outside and was not wanted by the Syrian people themselves. See (in Dutch, couldn&#8217;t find a translation) here:<br />
<a href="http://community.dewereldmorgen.be/blog/mario-bergen/2011/09/12/jezu-etenpater-frans-van-der-lugt-informeert-vanuit-syri" rel="nofollow ugc">http://community.dewereldmorgen.be/blog/mario-bergen/2011/09/12/jezu-etenpater-frans-van-der-lugt-informeert-vanuit-syri</a><br />
This article was written in 2011, and in the article Van der Lugt explains that the &#8220;rebels&#8221; only existed because they were paid from outside. These rebels were freighthening because they a) had weapons, and b) had no clue how to govern a state or even a city or a village that they conquered from the government. This usually meant hunger for the people that were conquered (explained, in Arabic, Dutch subtitles at: <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MhQHg6ivGPg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MhQHg6ivGPg</a>).<br />
Van der Lugt makes a case in the article that despite the regime of Assad isn&#8217;t perfect, Syria should opt for it&#8217;s regime. Syria needs to be led by a unified government whose main interest is infrastructure, pensions, health care, education, work, and not religion. That these things need priority and religion does not, according to a priest who is in the middle of a war situation, makes it a quite convincing statement to me.<br />
For an outsider (like me) it is difficult with all the propaganda that is spewed out by our friends from the media, what to make of the political meaning of Syria. Eye witness reports like Lily&#8217;s reported at OffG are very helpful in the interpretation.<br />
I think it is very courageous as an American (or any person from any country) to stay in a war zone despite all the dangers. Frans van der Lugt did the same, I believe, out of solidarity with the Syrian people. It did not end well for him, he was killed in 2014 in Homs by Al-Nusra&#8230;<br />
Please, take care Lily.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: deschutes		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52096</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deschutes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 17:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://off-guardian.org/?p=29875#comment-52096</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52094&quot;&gt;michaelk&lt;/a&gt;.

What are you talking about? A &#039;difficult task&#039; for Russia you say? Actually the USA is in a more difficult position as it is trying to support both Turkey and the Kurds–and al Nusra simultaneously. That&#039;s much more difficult that Russia&#039;s straightforward objective of helping its only ally in the M.E. Syria.  Problems addressing the parties you mention? Russia&#039;s done a good job in that respect, better than the US State Department with that idiot John Kerry.  Sorry dude, you just seem lost.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52094">michaelk</a>.</p>
<p>What are you talking about? A &#8216;difficult task&#8217; for Russia you say? Actually the USA is in a more difficult position as it is trying to support both Turkey and the Kurds–and al Nusra simultaneously. That&#8217;s much more difficult that Russia&#8217;s straightforward objective of helping its only ally in the M.E. Syria.  Problems addressing the parties you mention? Russia&#8217;s done a good job in that respect, better than the US State Department with that idiot John Kerry.  Sorry dude, you just seem lost.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: John		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52095</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 10:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://off-guardian.org/?p=29875#comment-52095</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52091&quot;&gt;Frances Daghman&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the real culprit in your situation is Israel.  They are the world&#039;s principal colonisers.
They are currently hell-bent on colonising Palestine in pursuit of their goal of an Eretz (Greater) Yisrael using the Yinon Plan to extend the area under their control to all of historic Mandate Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan in order to create a larger area of control, eventually stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates.
Simultaneously, they are colonising the corridors of power in Washington D.C.
Effectively, Israel now &quot;owns&quot; the U.S.
They have two presidential candidates with daughters married to ultra-orthodox Jewish zionists.
They virtually control the US Congress, US Supreme Court, US mass media and Hollywood.
What they have under-estimated is the determination of the Syrian President and people to resist them.
What they have over-estimated is America&#039;s - the US - ability to gain their goals for them.
When Syria - with help from its real allies - emerges as winners in the current ongoing war, there will be a period of retribution for Israel and its wicked associates, such as the Saud dictatorship and Turkish dictatorship.
People in the U.S. will eventually wake up and realise and they have been taken for a massively costly ride.
Then - Israel - watch out!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52091">Frances Daghman</a>.</p>
<p>I think the real culprit in your situation is Israel.  They are the world&#8217;s principal colonisers.<br />
They are currently hell-bent on colonising Palestine in pursuit of their goal of an Eretz (Greater) Yisrael using the Yinon Plan to extend the area under their control to all of historic Mandate Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan in order to create a larger area of control, eventually stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates.<br />
Simultaneously, they are colonising the corridors of power in Washington D.C.<br />
Effectively, Israel now &#8220;owns&#8221; the U.S.<br />
They have two presidential candidates with daughters married to ultra-orthodox Jewish zionists.<br />
They virtually control the US Congress, US Supreme Court, US mass media and Hollywood.<br />
What they have under-estimated is the determination of the Syrian President and people to resist them.<br />
What they have over-estimated is America&#8217;s &#8211; the US &#8211; ability to gain their goals for them.<br />
When Syria &#8211; with help from its real allies &#8211; emerges as winners in the current ongoing war, there will be a period of retribution for Israel and its wicked associates, such as the Saud dictatorship and Turkish dictatorship.<br />
People in the U.S. will eventually wake up and realise and they have been taken for a massively costly ride.<br />
Then &#8211; Israel &#8211; watch out!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: michaelk		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52094</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[michaelk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 09:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://off-guardian.org/?p=29875#comment-52094</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Lavrov and the Russians have a difficult diplomatic task regarding the situation in Syria.  With their statements, views and arguments, who exactly are they addressing them to? There&#039;s the UN. The Syrians. The State Department. The Pentagon. The CIA. The White House. The Congress. The media itself. The political parties. Trump and Clinton, remember there&#039;s an election going on. Russia&#039;s messages have to be extremely carefully calibrated and worded. The US system of government and politics is so riddled with competing factions all frantically searching for a fleeting consensus which might give them more power over policy... that it&#039;s incredibly difficult to know who one is talking to and what to say. So on needs to be careful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lavrov and the Russians have a difficult diplomatic task regarding the situation in Syria.  With their statements, views and arguments, who exactly are they addressing them to? There&#8217;s the UN. The Syrians. The State Department. The Pentagon. The CIA. The White House. The Congress. The media itself. The political parties. Trump and Clinton, remember there&#8217;s an election going on. Russia&#8217;s messages have to be extremely carefully calibrated and worded. The US system of government and politics is so riddled with competing factions all frantically searching for a fleeting consensus which might give them more power over policy&#8230; that it&#8217;s incredibly difficult to know who one is talking to and what to say. So on needs to be careful.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: deschutes		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/21/two-dissident-western-eye-witnesses-talk-about-syria/#comment-52093</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deschutes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 09:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://off-guardian.org/?p=29875#comment-52093</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Refreshingly honest piece. The USA/CIA&#039;s favorite tactic is to hijack revolutions from the grassroots native population and then do regime change. Sometimes it works (as in Ukraine), sometimes it doesn&#039;t, or it just takes more time (Syria). Mike Whitney recently wrote one of the best articles that really explains how the Syrian war is all about competing gas pipelines-
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/15/assads-death-warrant/
Briefly, Russia is Europe&#039;s main supplier of natural gas, and Syria is Russia&#039;s only ally left in the Middle East. The USA/Israel/EU want to replace Russian natural gas with Qatari natural gas going through a pipeline running from Qatar through Syria and on to European markets. When the USA proposed this pipeline to Syria, Assad refused: this really pissed off Washington/Israel, so they then decided to do a regime change op in Syria, get rid of Assad and replace him with a puppet regime as in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. So like the American lady says who wrote this article, there really was no majority grass roots revolution in Syria in 2011; and the CIA/Washington deceitfully misrepresented the tiny minority of Syrian &#039;Arab spring&#039; demonstrators as a vast uprising to get rid of Assad. The whole strategy with the pipeline is to strangle Russia economically by stealing its EU market share natural gas sales and at the same time replacing the independent pro-Russia Assad regime with an Islamic puppet state/or just hack up Syria and give parts to Israel (Golan Heights); and Turkey. As always, the USA is the total asshole country in all of this, causing immense destruction and death of hundreds of thousands of people all so it can get more and more control and power for itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refreshingly honest piece. The USA/CIA&#8217;s favorite tactic is to hijack revolutions from the grassroots native population and then do regime change. Sometimes it works (as in Ukraine), sometimes it doesn&#8217;t, or it just takes more time (Syria). Mike Whitney recently wrote one of the best articles that really explains how the Syrian war is all about competing gas pipelines-<br />
<a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/15/assads-death-warrant/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/15/assads-death-warrant/</a><br />
Briefly, Russia is Europe&#8217;s main supplier of natural gas, and Syria is Russia&#8217;s only ally left in the Middle East. The USA/Israel/EU want to replace Russian natural gas with Qatari natural gas going through a pipeline running from Qatar through Syria and on to European markets. When the USA proposed this pipeline to Syria, Assad refused: this really pissed off Washington/Israel, so they then decided to do a regime change op in Syria, get rid of Assad and replace him with a puppet regime as in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. So like the American lady says who wrote this article, there really was no majority grass roots revolution in Syria in 2011; and the CIA/Washington deceitfully misrepresented the tiny minority of Syrian &#8216;Arab spring&#8217; demonstrators as a vast uprising to get rid of Assad. The whole strategy with the pipeline is to strangle Russia economically by stealing its EU market share natural gas sales and at the same time replacing the independent pro-Russia Assad regime with an Islamic puppet state/or just hack up Syria and give parts to Israel (Golan Heights); and Turkey. As always, the USA is the total asshole country in all of this, causing immense destruction and death of hundreds of thousands of people all so it can get more and more control and power for itself.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>

<!--
Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: https://www.boldgrid.com/w3-total-cache/?utm_source=w3tc&utm_medium=footer_comment&utm_campaign=free_plugin

Page Caching using Disk: Enhanced 
Minified using Disk

Served from: off-guardian.org @ 2026-07-06 23:25:46 by W3 Total Cache
-->