Comments on: The Impending Clash Between the U.S. and Russia https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/10/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/ because facts really should be sacred Fri, 14 Apr 2017 17:02:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: michaelk https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/10/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/#comment-34550 Fri, 14 Apr 2017 17:02:02 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=37106#comment-34550 The ‘warning’ video with Stephen Cohen from CNN seems to have vanished, or been removed, from Utube. Interesting.

]]> By: Michael Leigh https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/10/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/#comment-34549 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:19:44 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=37106#comment-34549 In reply to Christian Walker.

Of course the GUARDIAN has changed, CHRISTINEWALKER ; it had to after the publication after the WIKILEAKS and the SNOWDON researched leaks on the illegalities of our ” ruling classes ‘.
This new source of background explanation is the source of widening the publics perception as to the ‘ Establishments ‘ false propaganda by the so-called ‘ mass media ‘ which in effect, from the taxpayer-financed BBC, etc downwards are now loosing not only circulation but more importantly credibility !
The more thoughtful members of the inner depths of the HM SIS ( Military Intelligence 5 ) were shocked by the Viner editorial injunction ironically imposed by the CIA related spooks ( by the senior and the related Military Intelligence 6 ) to reduce the reprinting of anti-editorial GUARDIAN commentary’s.
Indeed it is likely that Viner K has been promised a glittering of honours and financial attractive career’s, by the ruling establishment via it’s Business/Social/Political supporters.
And, it was only by secretly recording the daily total of anti-establishment views in the media ( including the most remote websites) that MI5 were able to estimate the temper of public attitudes to political changes. in their weekly reporting on the existence of a wider dissent in our society to our highest levels of the Crown and Government.

]]> By: michaelk https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/10/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/#comment-34548 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 06:51:11 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=37106#comment-34548 I think it’s also interesting to compare and contrast Cohen’s dire warnings here about where we seem to be heading and his steadfast questioning of the official western story about the Syrian ‘gas attack’, yet another sign of Assad’s and Putin’s contempt for human life… with recent statements by another very influential American academic, Chomksy, who condemns both the Russians and Syrians out of hand adding to the hysteria surrounding events, instead of trying analyse them. Here Chomsky appears to totally drop his ideas about the western media ‘manufacturing consent’, in this case for military aggression and he doesn’t even raise the possibility that this could be an incident manufactured by the rebels with the help of the American war party, that wants conflict with Russia. Chomksy’s stance seems very odd to me. But perhaps because he’s a kind of ‘anarchist’ and ‘socialist’ he’s letting his antipathy towards strong states like Russia and Syria run away with him? He also has a kind of utopian and romantic attitude towards the ‘people’ and their ability to self-organize. It’s like he’s continually re-running the sectarian arguments that tainted the Spanish Civil War and wants to dogmatically force that ‘model’ down over contemporary conflicts.

]]> By: michaelk https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/10/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/#comment-34547 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:41:12 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=37106#comment-34547 Here’s a short and rather frightening interview with Stephen Cohen who really, really, worried that we’re going to war with Russia, soon. The two lovely young hosts on CNN seem really shocked by his analysis, as we all should be. The terrible idea that Rex Tillerson’s visit to Moscow may be the last chance to avoid war, is a terrifying thought. If the Washington war party get their way and force Trump into it can it be contained inside Syria, or does it spread? The Regime in Ukraine, which receives so much support from the US, will probably launch their own attack at this time and ‘drag’ the US into that conflict too. We’re living in incredibly dangerous times, yet, looking at our media, one wouldn’t know it. As the only real opposition to war with Russia comes from the organized, nationalist right; as the mainstream left is incredibly anti-Russian, the chances of avoiding conflict are fading day by day.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46838.htm

]]> By: Arrby https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/10/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/#comment-34545 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 12:38:57 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=37106#comment-34545 In reply to michaelk.

The darkness deepens daily. Our Canadian state broadcaster has been on board the project to rehabilitate nazism and promote US foreign policy for a long time. I haven’t tried to comment there in a long time. Just recently I tried to comment about Syria. That was a fun experience. Not. – http://bit.ly/2oTn70P

]]> By: Arrby https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/10/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/#comment-34544 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 12:33:58 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=37106#comment-34544 In reply to Doug Colwell.

I’ll have a look. Thanks.

]]> By: Alan https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/10/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/#comment-34543 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 07:05:20 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=37106#comment-34543 “US troops in Syria can no longer be considered part of an international coalition fighting terrorism. The US is now a hostile force that represents an existential threat to the sovereign government”
When has there been an international coalition fighting terrorism?, one only has to look at terrorist gains in Syria to conclude the efforts of such a coalition. Haven’t the US administrations activities always been seen as a hostile threat, when did the Syrian government invite the US or indeed other members of this coalition to train mercenaries, send arms, troops and bomb their country?
The author writes with surprise concerning an understanding of US policy, a cursory look at Soviet history shows how odd such a view is.
It appears the author views the issue from a US administrations perspective. Whatever one regime believes doesn’t give it the right to impose those beliefs upon another.

]]> By: Frank https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/10/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/#comment-34542 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 06:44:35 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=37106#comment-34542 In reply to michaelk.

”Russia of course, doesn’t need or want a war with the west” Maybe not, but it doesn’t really have any other alternative. Any retreat from Syria means that the Anglo-zionist empire becomes emboldened and then moves to the next phase – a direct military confrontation with Russia (and possibly China). The west cannot afford a direct land war with Russia, or anyone else for that matter, so should Syria fall NATO’s proxy jihadist army will be unleashed in Chechnya and Dagestan. And ISIS will be in Damascus eyeing the soft underbelly of southern Europe. This is a huge and dangrous gamble for the west. There is no guarantee that it can win; Russia’s military capacity is formidable and it is not a country which will surrender easily, it never has.
The west can back down, Russia can’t, it is as simple as this. But bear in mind also that the Anglo-zionist empire is beginning to over-reach itself, on paper it seems invincible but the west is a declining, corrupt and decadent ex-civilization, its people are soft and spoilt; does it have the will or capacity to win a war of these proportions?
If there is a war – so be it. The Anglo-zionist empire is the most evil force the world has ever seen, it has to be faced down or destroyed one way or the other. Humanity and nature will take time, perhaps generations to recover. Let the neo-cons sit in their little rat-holes and rot.

]]> By: aaronmicalowe https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/10/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/#comment-34541 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 06:18:12 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=37106#comment-34541 In reply to aaronmicalowe.

Hmm, my autocorrect is determined to call this outlet off grain….

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