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		By: tutisicecream		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2017/10/09/baltic-states-sacrifice-economy-on-altar-of-politics/#comment-40181</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[linked somewhat with this article there&#039;s an interesting piece over on NEO by Phil Butler:
https://journal-neo.org/2017/10/05/the-guardian-s-nazification/
Regarding the Nazification of the Guardian. Which looks at the agenda behind those promoting anti-Putin rhetoric. Phil Butler reveals that the out going EU ambassador to Russia Vygaudas Ušackas a Lithuanian who is an arch Russophobe with a family background of Russian hating Nazi sympathisers.
Phil Butler draws the interesting conclusion that, &quot;Should I be vexed at The Guardian for publishing anti-Russia bias views at ever turn? Or is it more ridiculous for the European Union to insult Russia at every moment and appointment possible? &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>linked somewhat with this article there&#8217;s an interesting piece over on NEO by Phil Butler:<br />
<a href="https://journal-neo.org/2017/10/05/the-guardian-s-nazification/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://journal-neo.org/2017/10/05/the-guardian-s-nazification/</a><br />
Regarding the Nazification of the Guardian. Which looks at the agenda behind those promoting anti-Putin rhetoric. Phil Butler reveals that the out going EU ambassador to Russia Vygaudas Ušackas a Lithuanian who is an arch Russophobe with a family background of Russian hating Nazi sympathisers.<br />
Phil Butler draws the interesting conclusion that, &#8220;Should I be vexed at The Guardian for publishing anti-Russia bias views at ever turn? Or is it more ridiculous for the European Union to insult Russia at every moment and appointment possible? &#8220;</p>
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		By: elenits		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 09:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/10/09/baltic-states-sacrifice-economy-on-altar-of-politics/#comment-40179&quot;&gt;JJA&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely spot on correct JJA.
Going further: the entire EU is openly occupied territory run out of Washington under NATO/SHAPE.  The EU Commission is an occupation administration and NATO/SHAPE the enforcer.
Occupied and still-not-sovereign Germany is the HQ of USEUCOM (EUROCOM), our continent&#039;s branch of CENTCOM.
On CENTCOM maps this includes Russia.
I&#039;m pessimistic about EU&#039;s citizens&#039; ability to overthrow this monster - liberation is (at present) more likely through empire collapse a la USSR. Meanwhile it is instructive to watch Turkey&#039;s deteriorating relationship with  NATO/USA : Turkey is NATO&#039;s most important country by far and most important armed forces.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/10/09/baltic-states-sacrifice-economy-on-altar-of-politics/#comment-40179">JJA</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely spot on correct JJA.<br />
Going further: the entire EU is openly occupied territory run out of Washington under NATO/SHAPE.  The EU Commission is an occupation administration and NATO/SHAPE the enforcer.<br />
Occupied and still-not-sovereign Germany is the HQ of USEUCOM (EUROCOM), our continent&#8217;s branch of CENTCOM.<br />
On CENTCOM maps this includes Russia.<br />
I&#8217;m pessimistic about EU&#8217;s citizens&#8217; ability to overthrow this monster &#8211; liberation is (at present) more likely through empire collapse a la USSR. Meanwhile it is instructive to watch Turkey&#8217;s deteriorating relationship with  NATO/USA : Turkey is NATO&#8217;s most important country by far and most important armed forces.</p>
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		By: JJA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 08:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/10/09/baltic-states-sacrifice-economy-on-altar-of-politics/#comment-40176&quot;&gt;curri&lt;/a&gt;.

Because Germany is an occupied state under the boot of the US. The US has been transporting tanks and other heavy military equipment across Germany, using German bases for nuclear weapons and launching drone strikes (of which 90% kills are of innocent civilians).
Until the population of Europe rises up and kicks the US bases out and disbands NATO, nothing will change. Not to mention the billions lost to farmers and manufacturing industries due to the US enforced sanctions against Russia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/10/09/baltic-states-sacrifice-economy-on-altar-of-politics/#comment-40176">curri</a>.</p>
<p>Because Germany is an occupied state under the boot of the US. The US has been transporting tanks and other heavy military equipment across Germany, using German bases for nuclear weapons and launching drone strikes (of which 90% kills are of innocent civilians).<br />
Until the population of Europe rises up and kicks the US bases out and disbands NATO, nothing will change. Not to mention the billions lost to farmers and manufacturing industries due to the US enforced sanctions against Russia.</p>
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		By: tutisicecream		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 06:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/10/09/baltic-states-sacrifice-economy-on-altar-of-politics/#comment-40177&quot;&gt;Maria Callas&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes I agree, the lack of tolerance for ethnic majorities is out of kilter with the whole PC agenda of the EU. The same can be said for Ukraine and Moldova suppressing native speakers of Russian.
What it does highlight though is the dual standards that are at work. Take for example the whole Neo-Liberal band wagon under way in the US and UK with the Guardian amongst others leading the charge. You will not find any honest assessment of the rising political fascism in the Baltic states, Ukraine and Poland for example. What we do have is the Baltic&#039;s being now a boot camp for NATO (USA&#039;s military flange in Europe) exercises on Russia&#039;s boarder. And the WMSM running any story, no matter how crazy and baseless to discredit Russia.
Unfortunately Russia made the mistake of moving its boarders up to NATO, by not expanding it&#039;s reach as NATO did. The US promised they would not move NATO one inch further east after the reunification  of Germany. But we all understand that a US verbal agreement is not worth the paper it&#039;s written on. Oh, and even those written on paper too! Such as the Iranian Non-Nuclear treaty for example.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/10/09/baltic-states-sacrifice-economy-on-altar-of-politics/#comment-40177">Maria Callas</a>.</p>
<p>Yes I agree, the lack of tolerance for ethnic majorities is out of kilter with the whole PC agenda of the EU. The same can be said for Ukraine and Moldova suppressing native speakers of Russian.<br />
What it does highlight though is the dual standards that are at work. Take for example the whole Neo-Liberal band wagon under way in the US and UK with the Guardian amongst others leading the charge. You will not find any honest assessment of the rising political fascism in the Baltic states, Ukraine and Poland for example. What we do have is the Baltic&#8217;s being now a boot camp for NATO (USA&#8217;s military flange in Europe) exercises on Russia&#8217;s boarder. And the WMSM running any story, no matter how crazy and baseless to discredit Russia.<br />
Unfortunately Russia made the mistake of moving its boarders up to NATO, by not expanding it&#8217;s reach as NATO did. The US promised they would not move NATO one inch further east after the reunification  of Germany. But we all understand that a US verbal agreement is not worth the paper it&#8217;s written on. Oh, and even those written on paper too! Such as the Iranian Non-Nuclear treaty for example.</p>
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		By: Maria Callas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Baltic states have gained little from their association with the EU and from their stupid arrogance towards their great benefactor, Russia. Tragically, most of their youth have by now emigrated to find basic work further West and have no intention of returning. Salaries and pensions are still incredibly low in comparison to other senior member states - OAPs are on about €100 pm (and this will decrease if the government has its way) whereas in a fellow state like Ireland, pensioners are used to €240 per &#039;week&#039;. This is an enormous difference. So much for solidarity, equality, fairness and all that.  A good salary in Lithuania is €350-€400 pm, a basic subsistence weekly income in France. The problem is that the cost of living is not any lower in the Baltics... even though LIDL and other chains have opened now, it has been shown that they are seriously reducing the quality of their products for the Baltics, but charging the same prices. How humiliating for countries used in former times to superior quality fresh native produce. Now small farmers will be &#039;regulated&#039; out of business. The politicians are so busy kowtowing to EU and Nato interests that they have little time or inclination to care  about the plight of their people. Grybuskaite portrays herself as a glowing beacon of liberal western values even though she was such a good little communist when it suited her earlier career, even studying at the special university in St Petersburg for up and coming party types. It&#039;s a case of biting off your nose to spite your face. They are so busy stirring up an unnatural and irrational hatred of everything Russian, suppressing the Russian language even in towns where 80% of the people use it as their first language (very un-EU) -  like Daugavpils Latvia, where the mayor was recently &#039;fined&#039; for speaking Russian to children during a visit to a local school.. Lithuania has decommissioned  it&#039;s giant nuclear power station at Visaginas (another mostly Russian town) which with its 4 reactors could be producing enough power for sale to the whole Baltic region. Instead they have now  built (at great cost) a new port facility at Klaipeda to receive and reprocess shipments of American shale gas from across the Atlantic. Russia is being scapegoated for all the negative aftershocks of the collapse of the USSR, but during that time (remembered with longing by so many now), peripheral regions like the Baltics received much greater investment in industry and infrastructure than Russia itself and their standard of living was higher.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Baltic states have gained little from their association with the EU and from their stupid arrogance towards their great benefactor, Russia. Tragically, most of their youth have by now emigrated to find basic work further West and have no intention of returning. Salaries and pensions are still incredibly low in comparison to other senior member states &#8211; OAPs are on about €100 pm (and this will decrease if the government has its way) whereas in a fellow state like Ireland, pensioners are used to €240 per &#8216;week&#8217;. This is an enormous difference. So much for solidarity, equality, fairness and all that.  A good salary in Lithuania is €350-€400 pm, a basic subsistence weekly income in France. The problem is that the cost of living is not any lower in the Baltics&#8230; even though LIDL and other chains have opened now, it has been shown that they are seriously reducing the quality of their products for the Baltics, but charging the same prices. How humiliating for countries used in former times to superior quality fresh native produce. Now small farmers will be &#8216;regulated&#8217; out of business. The politicians are so busy kowtowing to EU and Nato interests that they have little time or inclination to care  about the plight of their people. Grybuskaite portrays herself as a glowing beacon of liberal western values even though she was such a good little communist when it suited her earlier career, even studying at the special university in St Petersburg for up and coming party types. It&#8217;s a case of biting off your nose to spite your face. They are so busy stirring up an unnatural and irrational hatred of everything Russian, suppressing the Russian language even in towns where 80% of the people use it as their first language (very un-EU) &#8211;  like Daugavpils Latvia, where the mayor was recently &#8216;fined&#8217; for speaking Russian to children during a visit to a local school.. Lithuania has decommissioned  it&#8217;s giant nuclear power station at Visaginas (another mostly Russian town) which with its 4 reactors could be producing enough power for sale to the whole Baltic region. Instead they have now  built (at great cost) a new port facility at Klaipeda to receive and reprocess shipments of American shale gas from across the Atlantic. Russia is being scapegoated for all the negative aftershocks of the collapse of the USSR, but during that time (remembered with longing by so many now), peripheral regions like the Baltics received much greater investment in industry and infrastructure than Russia itself and their standard of living was higher.</p>
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		By: curri		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 18:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Germany is so friendly to Russia, why doesn&#039;t it pull out of NATO? Why doesn&#039;t it expel the last of the foreign troops from its soil? The Russian troops left a generation ago.
&quot;The Baltic States have only ambitions.&quot;
What &quot;ambitions&quot;  could such tiny states have?  However, If they were magically moved to the Middle East  they could possibly have &quot;ambitions&quot; as allies of Israel.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Germany is so friendly to Russia, why doesn&#8217;t it pull out of NATO? Why doesn&#8217;t it expel the last of the foreign troops from its soil? The Russian troops left a generation ago.<br />
&#8220;The Baltic States have only ambitions.&#8221;<br />
What &#8220;ambitions&#8221;  could such tiny states have?  However, If they were magically moved to the Middle East  they could possibly have &#8220;ambitions&#8221; as allies of Israel.  🙂</p>
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		By: summitflyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Such common sense ,isn&#039;t it .Somewhat like not biting the hand that feeds you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such common sense ,isn&#8217;t it .Somewhat like not biting the hand that feeds you.</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep, Russophobia isn&#039;t going to put food on the table. The Baltics&#039; sucking up to NATO/EU was always going to boomerang since it was propelled by crass political opportunism on both sides. Moreover, the dishonourable part played by these unprepossessing apartheid states during the German occupation, where both the Latvian and Lithuanian Auxiliary Police were falling over themselves in helping the Nazis ethnically cleanse the region of the indigenous Jewish population, should hardly elicit sympathy. Bad karma, or you reap what you sow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, Russophobia isn&#8217;t going to put food on the table. The Baltics&#8217; sucking up to NATO/EU was always going to boomerang since it was propelled by crass political opportunism on both sides. Moreover, the dishonourable part played by these unprepossessing apartheid states during the German occupation, where both the Latvian and Lithuanian Auxiliary Police were falling over themselves in helping the Nazis ethnically cleanse the region of the indigenous Jewish population, should hardly elicit sympathy. Bad karma, or you reap what you sow.</p>
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