Comments on: Shadow Economy, Democracy and the Manipulation of Public Opinion https://off-guardian.org/2017/12/20/shadow-economy-democracy-and-the-manipulation-of-public-opinion/ because facts really should be sacred Tue, 05 Mar 2024 08:24:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: nhiunher https://off-guardian.org/2017/12/20/shadow-economy-democracy-and-the-manipulation-of-public-opinion/#comment-656171 Tue, 05 Mar 2024 08:24:01 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=42684#comment-656171 Unsurprisingly, some of the most prominent members of the Global Commission on Drug Policy, including the former UN Secretary Kofi Anon and the former president of Brazil Fernando Henrique Cardoso (who is also a professor of political science and sociology), have been advocating the drug decriminalisation for years. Quick Draw

]]> By: jag37777 https://off-guardian.org/2017/12/20/shadow-economy-democracy-and-the-manipulation-of-public-opinion/#comment-42343 Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:30:25 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=42684#comment-42343 In reply to Big B.

I don’t understand your comment. MMT is an analytical approach to understand the monetary system and how it can be used for public purpose. The MMT community certainly recognises the continuing recessionary trend but also understands that that is due to poor political decision making, not any law of nature or ‘economic reality’. If you want to fix the problems we have, you need to learn how the system works in reality and stop believing the monetarists’ lies that serve to entrench the status quo. #LearnMMT or be ignorant.

]]> By: Vaska https://off-guardian.org/2017/12/20/shadow-economy-democracy-and-the-manipulation-of-public-opinion/#comment-42342 Sat, 23 Dec 2017 11:12:06 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=42684#comment-42342 In reply to Fair dinkum.

[Chuckles.] We should do a group photo of us editors one of these days, when we happen to be on the same continent and in the same country at the same time, that is — until then, here’s a little smiley icon instead šŸ™‚

]]> By: Big B https://off-guardian.org/2017/12/20/shadow-economy-democracy-and-the-manipulation-of-public-opinion/#comment-42341 Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:15:38 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=42684#comment-42341 In reply to jag37777.

If MMT doesn’t recognise a continuing recession when we are in one – no thanks. Global GDP has been trending down for seven years. You can call it a debt fueled faux ‘recovery’ if you want: other titles might be “the continued financial crisis”; “the great recession”; “secular stagnation”; “the lost decade (07-17)”; etc. …we’ll see what happens if they ever end global QE???
https://www.dallasfed.org/-/media/Images/institute/update/2016/1608c1.png?la=en

]]> By: jag37777 https://off-guardian.org/2017/12/20/shadow-economy-democracy-and-the-manipulation-of-public-opinion/#comment-42340 Fri, 22 Dec 2017 02:32:38 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=42684#comment-42340 The flaw in your theory is in the premise. Recession isn’t inevitable and the elites know that currency issuing governments have the power to overcome the business cycle.
#LearnMMT

]]> By: Big B https://off-guardian.org/2017/12/20/shadow-economy-democracy-and-the-manipulation-of-public-opinion/#comment-42339 Thu, 21 Dec 2017 13:20:40 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=42684#comment-42339 I might be stretching the concept: but the entire binary political sphere could be viewed through an Overton Window. The left and right centrist parties offer the verisimilitude of choice ā€“ while the fundamental growth; central banking dominated; debt-driven; financialised; consumerist; exploitative (kept out of sight and supposedly confined to the economic vassal and neo-colonial hinterlands); ā€˜freeā€™ trade; short-termist; militarist ā€¦all these structural paradigms go largely unchallenged. If the last election was anything to go by: it was incredibly parochial, with the greater emphasis on domestic policy; not to severely challenge the (Russophobic; preserving of the ā€œSpecial Relationshipā€ {with the worldā€™s biggest terrorist organisation}; pro-EU-NATO; pro-nuclear; anti-immigrant; Islamophobic; pro-Israel; etc) worldview. All these structural pillars of the ā€œGlobal Britainā€ world view are presented as ameliorable only with a left or right (centrist) ā€˜spinā€™ ā€“ but not to be challenged or deconstructed. Thus, a non-aligned, neutral, internally focused, largely self-sufficient and sustainable, degrowth, post-carbon, equitable, fair trade, non-militaristic, non-nuclear; unilaterally disarmed, socialist state and nation building paradigm ā€“ even if viewed as ā€œsensibleā€ – would be deemed too ā€œradicalā€ ā€¦or just plain ā€œunthinkableā€. For now, anyway?

]]> By: Jen https://off-guardian.org/2017/12/20/shadow-economy-democracy-and-the-manipulation-of-public-opinion/#comment-42338 Thu, 21 Dec 2017 12:03:41 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=42684#comment-42338 In reply to Edwige.

Bono and U2 achieved that hallowed status of fake cultural icons by themselves without any help from academics.

]]> By: binra https://off-guardian.org/2017/12/20/shadow-economy-democracy-and-the-manipulation-of-public-opinion/#comment-42337 Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:17:16 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=42684#comment-42337 In not seeing my post coming through – I try it via my blog:
https://willingness-to-listen.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/thinking-unthinkable.html

]]> By: Edwige https://off-guardian.org/2017/12/20/shadow-economy-democracy-and-the-manipulation-of-public-opinion/#comment-42336 Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:23:51 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=42684#comment-42336 Construct fake cultural icons to sell your message because most people listen to them more than politicians, journalists or academics.
Start with Joe Atwill and Jan Irvin’s research into The Grateful Dead in ‘Maufacturing the Deadhead’, proceed to Dave MacGowan’s findings on The Doors in ‘Weird Scenes inside the Canyon’ and carry on until pretty much all popular music of the last half century looks like an example of created culture to sell some sort of message (as well as make a lot of money).

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