Mueller Indictments: truth v lies in"The Observer View"

by Kit


Today’s Observer View focuses on the Announcement by Robert Mueller that they are indicting 13 Russians and 3 Russian companies for “interfering” in the 2016 Presidential election. It is, unsurprisingly, full of misleading language, lies by omission and just straight up lies. It is also anonymous, and since it’s impossible to imagine Jonathan Freedland ever being too ashamed to put his byline on propaganda and smears…it’s probably just a press release from the foreign office.
Let’s dive right in. Emphasis, through-out, is ours.

Although the charges levelled against 13 Russians and three Russian entities are extraordinarily serious…

FALSE: They’re not. At all. They are barely crimes, if they are crimes at all. Moon of Alabama has done an excellent breakdown of this. The primary charges of “fraud” are, essentially, that these 13 Russians did internet PR through sock-puppet accounts. This is a marketing tool as old as the internet itself, and not illegal. The British army has an entire section devoted to it. As does Israel. In fact, the Guardian reported on a massive American operation to do the same thing back in 2011.

None of this counts as foreign intervention. Three whole armies never influenced and election, but 13 Russians did.

The secondary charges of “failing to register as a foreign agent” are more serious…but only as a precedent. The idea that foreign nationals have to register as agents before expressing opinions about domestic politics is absurd. George Soros wrote a column for the Guardian last week. Barack Obama begged Scotland to vote “No”, and campaigned against Brexit. Neither of them are British citizens, or (I’m guessing) registered with Her Majesty’s government as foreign agents.
American politics are often the subject of global discussion. We’re not all registered foreign agents. Should we have to be? Isn’t that an incredibly autocratic and dangerous idea? Does that include Israeli and Saudi DNC donors?
The author feels the need to skirt around how ridiculous it is that only 13(!) Russians are meant to have swung the election, combating the highest paid and most advanced state security agencies in the world, so so will we.

…they do not directly support the central claim that Trump and senior campaign aides colluded with Moscow to rig the vote.

TRUE: This is the first true thing in the article. It could, however, be truer. For example, they could point out that Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein went out of his way, during his press conference, to underline that there was no evidence that “any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity.” It was quite clearly a message – they have nothing on Trump.

But Trump is not off the hook. Far from it. His oft-repeated argument, contradicting US and British intelligence agencies, that stories of covert Russian meddling were “fake news” has been exposed as false.

FALSE: No, they haven’t. Thirteen Russians doing viral marketing is not “rigging”, or “collusion” or “hacking”. For months now we’ve heard that the FSB colluded with Trump to steal that election – something there is still precisely ZERO evidence to support – the FBI indicting some low-paid marketing shills means nothing. Actually, the very fact that – after all this time, money and effort – the only charges are about some internet PR firm means that they could find nothing else. This is the biggest fish available, and it’s not worth the bait.

The US, like other western countries, is incontrovertibly under sustained assault from the Kremlin.

FALSE: There is nothing linking the “Internet Research Agency” to the Kremlin. None of the people indicted are employees of the Russian government. That’s very basic journalism. Leaving that information out is a deliberate lie.

Why does Trump continue to defend Russia? With Trump, it is difficult to talk about credibility. What little he does retain has just measurably diminished.

MISLEADING: Trump hasn’t “defended Russia”, he has defended himself, claiming there was no collusion. He said if Russia did anything, he didn’t know about it and it didn’t swing the election. The indictments echo this sentiment, which the author concedes…

The justice department stressed that any collaboration between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the 13 named Russians was “unwitting” and that these activities did not change the election’s outcome.

TRUE: The Justice Dept. has admitted there is no evidence of collusion. In a sane world, that brings the matter to a close.

But despite Trump’s crowing about vindication, that does not mean there was no collusion. It does not mean there was no wider conspiracy. Nor does it mean there was no impact on the election.

FALSE: Yes it does. That is literally exactly what it means.

Mueller’s investigation is ongoing. He already has extensive evidence of contacts between Russia and the Trump campaign. For example, the president’s eldest son sought political dirt to use against Hillary Clinton, Trump’s Democratic opponent, from a Russian lawyer.

FALSE: This is untrue, Trump Jr. never SOUGHT dirt, he was (allegedly) OFFERED it, but never received it or paid for it. This is in contrast to, say, Hillary Clinton’s campaign – who we know paid a foreign national (Christopher Steele) to dig up (aka, fabricate) dirt on Donald Trump. In fact Hillary Clinton paying a British spy to make up stuff is the only reason this investigation ever happened.

Mueller has obtained two guilty pleas, from Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, and from a former campaign adviser. They admit lying to federal authorities about their Russian government connections.

MISLEADING: This is highly dishonest. Flynn’s “Russian connections” consisted of two meetings with the Russian ambassador, both of which happened AFTER the election. Neither of which were to do with collusion. The first was about protecting Israel from UNSC condemnations, the second about retaliatory sanctions. Once again, this was all after the election, none of it was illegal or even improper.

Trump’s former campaign chairman has been charged with crimes including money-laundering.

Totally and completely irrelevant.

Steve Bannon, his disaffected former strategist, was interviewed at length this month.

TRUE: Yes, he was. And THIS MONTH the Justice Dept. “stressed that any collaboration between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the 13 named Russians was “unwitting” and that these activities did not change the election’s outcome.” Ergo, Bannon told them nothing.

And the special counsel has yet to announce his findings concerning Russian hacking of Democratic party email systems…

MISLEADING: WikiLeaks, who published the DNC e-mails, said the e-mails were leaked, not hacked. They were very specific about that. There is no evidence of hacking at all. Also, to talk about the DNC e-mails, without referencing the blatant internal corruption they uncovered, or the DNC staffer who was killed in mysterious circumstances shortly afterwards, is blatant lying by omission.
It’s important to remember, the only PROVEN cheating in the 2016 Presidential election was carried out by the DNC. The person responsible for this cheating resigned in disgrace, only to be immediately hired by Clinton’s campaign.

…which Trump publicly encouraged in 2016.

MISLEADING: That was a joke. It is intellectually dishonest to the point of absurdity to pretend other wise. Watch it. He’s joking.

Trump will have the chance to repeat his denials when, as anticipated, Mueller interviews him under oath. This interview, if it happens, could be Trump’s High Noon. There is a slight air of Gary Cooper about the tall, spare figure of Robert Mueller and an air of sleazy desperation about Trump.

This comparison is actually unintentionally apt. High Noon was released in 1952, the height of Hollywood’s “red scare” and is clearly an allegory for McCarthyism in Hollywood. The screenwriter/producer, Carl Foreman, was a former member of the Communist Party USA. He was called before HUAC and asked to name other communists, he refused, was labelled an “uncooperative witness”, blacklisted and fled to Britain. He didn’t return to the country of his birth for 30 years. His producer credit was taken off High Noon, and when his later work – Bridge on the River Kwai – won an oscar, it was not in his name.
This was McCarthyism in action. People having their livelihoods destroyed by rumor and gossip, being “tainted” by communism in the “land of the free”. Just 4 or 5 years ago the Western world looked back on this era as absurd paranoia, today suddenly it doesn’t seem so ridiculous. Today we have McCarthyism 2.0. Anonymous editorials blaming the Russians for everything and anything they can think of.
What happened to Gary Cooper, you ask? The film star to whom our anonymous Observer editor so aptly compares Robert Mueller? Well, he happily testified in front of HUAC to protect his career. Unlike Mueller, he at least had conscience enough to look ashamed of himself.

The latest indictments do not explicitly say the Russian government directed the election conspiracy, but there is plenty of reason to believe it did and that Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, was personally involved.

FALSE: There is not plenty of reason to believe this, as evidenced by the total lack of sources cited to support this assertion.

Given the way Putin runs his country with an iron hand(sic), it is risible to suggest such an audacious and risky operation was mounted without his knowledge. Putin is already deeply implicated in numerous other “hybrid conflict”, cyber warfare and disinformation campaigns against European democracies, including Britain.

FALSE: This is nothing but scare-mongering. There has been no evidence collected that Russia took any part in any “cyber warfare” anywhere in Europe. Quite the opposite.
The head of French cyber security said there was “no trace of Russian hacking” on the French Presidential election – which Macron won. Youtube, Facebook and twitter all said they saw “no evidence” Russia had influenced the Brexit vote. The New York Times even had an article wondering why Russia hadn’t “hacked” the German election.

Under his leadership, Russia is actively working to undermine western democracy.

FALSE: Again, there is no evidence of this. Certainly none linked in this article, which apparently doesn’t believe in sources or citations.

It has made a mockery of international law in Ukraine.

MISLEADING: Russia’s proven involvement in Ukraine is one bloodless referendum. I would suggest the nameless author(s) of this editorial google “Iraq 2003”, “Libya 2011”, “Gaza”, “Gitmo”…you know, the usual. If Russians are “mocking” international law, the Israelis have tarred and feathered it, and the American’s took it out behind the barn and shot it in the head. This level of hypocrisy is nauseating.

It is daily involved in the callous slaughter of Syrian civilians.

This would more accurately be phrased as “It is winning a war against ISIS and other coalition armed proxies, whom we fund and train to execute regime change.” Syrians are returning to Syria, ISIS are all but beaten.

And next month, Putin will effectively steal his own presidential election. It is possible that Mueller, like High Noon’s Marshal Will Kane, will blow Trump away.

“Effectively steal” meaning, in this instance, “win”. Russians support Putin, even Shaun Walker admits that in his absurd “goodbye Russia” article.
In summary, this editorial completely misses the point of these indictments. They are not the first domino to fall, this isn’t the sign of a coming impeachment. Far from it, it’s an admission hidden in an accusation. After all this time, and all this hysteria, they have shown they have nothing. The apparent budget of the Internet Research Agency was 1.2 million dollars. The Pentagon spends that much on stationary. Is this the extent of Russian “hacking” we heard so much about?
Because foreign interference doesn’t look like 13 people with fake facebook names.
Real “Foreign interference” looks like rigged elections for underdog candidates. “Foreign interference” costs five billion dollars and has leaked phone calls to prove it. It looks like £700,000 from a billionaire foreign national to push their own private agenda. It results in military coups of democratic presidents. It looks like armed contras selling cocaine to the American public. It looks like Yemen and Honduras and Iran and Venezuela. El Salvador, Cuba and Vietnam.
This is what “foreign interference” looks like:

And this…

…how do we confront the Putin menace?

This is what dangerous, dishonest war-mongering looks like.

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The following points are mentioned in the indictments, but never brought up by The Observer. We consider them important.

  • The Russian “interference operation” was started in 2014, well before Donald Trump announced he was running for President.
  • The Russian indictees and their “co-conspirators” are accused of campaigning for Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders as well as Donald Trump.
  • The accusations state that the Internet Research Agency held both pro- and anti-Trump protests in the same city, on the same day, after the election.
  • …they also apparently promoted black lives matter and others.

Kit Knightly is co-editor of OffGuardian. The Guardian banned him from commenting. Twice. He used to write for fun, but now he's forced to out of a near-permanent sense of outrage.

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Kit Knightly is co-editor of OffGuardian. The Guardian banned him from commenting. Twice. He used to write for fun, but now he's forced to out of a near-permanent sense of outrage.

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Christopher Barclay
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Christopher Barclay

The point of the investigation is not to uncover evidence that Trump is a Russian agent. It is to induce him and others to lie, openign them up to impeachment and charges.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

And ‘lying’ can involve no more than a faulty, or even differing, recollection, immediately construed as deliberate. Beria would have admired the techniques of the US Gestapo.

Mary Smith F
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Mary Smith F

Thank you for a marvellous analysis

Matt
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Matt

Another example of Russia lying so blatantly, that it’s mind-numbing: https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.5f0ec168b852 It’s behind a paywall, so here are the key excerpts: A Russian oligarch believed to control the Russian mercenaries who attacked U.S. troops and their allies in Syria this month was in close touch with Kremlin and Syrian officials in the days and weeks before and after the assault, according to U.S. intelligence reports. In intercepted communications in late January, the oligarch, Yevgeniy Prigozhin, told a senior Syrian official that he had “secured permission” from an unspecified Russian minister to move forward with a “fast and strong” initiative that… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Who pays you for your prolix Russophobe agit-prop ‘Matt’? You are omnipresent with your bilge, quoting the WaPo, seemingly not in mirth. And, in the end, you’re just another propagandist for the jihadists, nothing more despite you obvious self-regard. You are aware that the US occupation of part of Syria is against International Law, but then again the ‘Rules Based International Order’, doesn’t apply to the USA, its stooges or Israel, does it?

MLS
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MLS

Couple of obvious questions you don’t seem to have asked yourself. 1) Why do you frame this is an example of Russia lying? There’s no evidence presented in the article beside an unnamed intelligence source. The source could be lying. Or the WaPo could be lying. Anyone could be lying, but you see it as proof the Russians are lying. Confirmation bias much? 2) Do you understand the US is in Syria illegally and Russia are there legally? Do you understand Russia was within its rights to assist Syria in taking back Syrian territory? Do you understand the US has… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

‘Matt’ is a hyper-active Russophobe pro-jihadist troll, clearly paid by the word. Of course he believes recidivist Western liars-he’d be out of a job otherwise.

Matt
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Matt

Hi MLS, 1) I see it as the Russians lying, because contrary to their claims, the Wagner mercenary group has dealings with both the Syrian and Russian governments. The WaPo info is too specific, and it’s obvious that it’s based on intercepted communications. 2) Of course I understand. Where in my post did I ever imply that I disagree with those statements? Because I don’t. 3) This is a strange form of logical inversion. Who attacked whom first? It was the Russian PMCs. Who lied about what happened? The Russian government claimed that a Syrian militia was chasing ISIS when… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

The Americans are in Syria ILLEGALLY, Matt, in an act of aggression, the Supreme Crime under International Law. Lying propagandists like you are complicit in the crimes they commit, the murder of Syrians inside their own country, which makes you quite despicable, with your Imperial stooge’s arrogance.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

After the genocidal farce of Colon Bowell and his ‘intercepted communications’ LIES re. Iraqi WMD, and NUMEROUS other instances, it takes either a mental defective or a dishonest, propaganda, troll to claim such as verification, for a screed from the KNOWN CIA disinformation sewer, the WaPo. But poor little Matt gets paid to believe the unbelievable, doesn’t he. By the word, too, I’d say.

MLS
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MLS

This will surprise you but I think you are probably right about the PMCs who died having closer connection to the Russian military than was let on by the Kremlin. I said right here I believed the Kremlin was downplaying. I don’t believe the figure of “hundred”, but I think it was a major issue, whatever the numbers involved. But let’s just get a few things straight. 1) The Russians using PMCs in an area of possible conflict with the US may be technically illegal but it’s not reprehensible, it’s plain good sense. They need deniability exactly because of situations… Read more »

Matt
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Matt

1) The Russians using PMCs in an area of possible conflict with the US may be technically illegal but it’s not reprehensible, it’s plain good sense. They need deniability exactly because of situations like this, to avoid rapid escalation. to all out nuclear war. They were trying to take over oilfields from an area already cleansed of ISIS. Is it right to risk nuclear war just for this? 2) You admit the US is in Syria illegally but then hand wave it away. Look – this isn’t a technicality, it’s THE problem Look, I fully agree with you. But the… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

The USA created Daash, just as it created al-Qaeda,. And the USA allowed Daash killers to escape Raqqa, and Iraq after the obliteration of Mosul, so that theoir takfiri assets could re-group and re-train inside ILLEGALLY occupied Syrian territory. Your lies simply serve the interests of the takfiri butchers, and their creators and bank-rollers, the USA, Israel and the Wahhabist despotisms.

Mikalina
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Mikalina

The Wagner group is a myth – all smoke and mist.

Matt
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Matt

I believe the numerous reports by the Russian independent media, complete with detailed investigative journalism that puts Western media to shame. They aren’t lying and making all this up.

Admin
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Have you supplied links? It might help people understand your point if you did.

Matt
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Matt

Sure. Here are a handful of such articles: https://echo.msk.ru/news/2148834-echo.html Ekho Moskvy has identified yet another Russian mercenary who died in the recent U.S. airstrikes against pro-Assad militants in Syria. Four people who knew Oleg Tereshchenko confirmed to the radio station that he perished in Deir ez-Zor on February 7. Tereshchenko’s friends say roughly 200 people died in the attack. Open-source investigators at the Conflict Intelligence Team have identified another eight Russians who were killed in the airstrikes. Meduza wrote about some of them here. https://republic.ru/posts/89612 The “Wagner” private military company has at least 3,602 combatants on its payroll, according to… Read more »

Matt
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Matt

Whoops, I missed an important one. An article that first revealed the contract signed between an entity representing the Wagner Group and the Syrian government, involving the former protecting the latter’s oil fields in exchange for a 25% cut of the profits from selling the oil:
http://m.fontanka.ru/2017/06/26/084/

Catte
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Catte

Is there any paper trail or documentation at all that shows Wagner as having any real world existence? And more broadly, what is the point being made? No one denies there are Russian mercs in Syria, does the exact name they go under or degree of connection between them and the Kremlin matter all that much?

Catte
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Catte

I went and looked at the link he posted up top and this hilarious bit caught my eye (have to share)

Commenting on the incident, U.S. Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis said: “It was self-defense. Obviously, we are not getting engaged in the Syrian civil war.

The US are parking a permanent garrison illegally on Syrian soil, and using that position to protect oil interests, supply “rebel” units, bomb and shell Syrian army positions and sometimes attack Russians – but (and they need to make this absolutely clear) they are not getting engaged in the civil war
😆

Matt
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Matt

I used Google translate to read the article, but here’s the pdf they posted:
http://cdn.fontanka.ru/mm/items/2017/6/26/0058/1165024055613_996517339573910.pdf
Here’s the accompanying text, translated by Google:

In May 2017, the authorized capital of the LLC increases from 10 thousand to 3 million rubles, the company opens and officially registers a branch in the Syrian Arab Republic, the city of Damascus.

Matt
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Matt

Hello Catte,

what is the point being made?

I am merely responding to Mikalina’s claim that “the Wagner group is a myth.”
Some of the links I posted do show a paper troll, i.e. the Fontanka article.

Catte
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Catte

Where in the article is the paper trail shown? Post relevant part?

Marcus
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Marcus

All that long post of yours amounts to you saying you believe the WaPo because they wouldn’t make it up. That’s your call, but it’s not evidence.

Matt
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Matt

All that long post of yours amounts to you saying you believe the WaPo because they wouldn’t make it up.

No, it doesn’t. You did not even bother reading the quoted excerpts.
If you did, you would have seen the various independent Russian media outlets were the first to confirm information about the Wagner group being assisted by the Russian military, and about the oil contract signed between an entity representing the PMC and the Syrian government.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Matt, we all know that ‘independent Russian media’ means pro-Western stooges, on the NED, State Department, Western NGO or Khodokorvsky et al pay-roll. To quote them as if they were disinterested sources renders you even more contemptible than usual.

Jen
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Jen

MLS, what do you expect from Matt whose Reddit hashtag is #DownWithAssad?

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Looks like our ‘Matt’ is either a Zionazi intent on seeing that the Holy Work of the Oded Yinon Plan be achieved, and Syria dissected, amidst massive suffering (that alone makes him despicable) or a Russophobe fanatic, perhaps one of the ubiquitous Ukronazi trolls with their FANATIC hatred of Russians.

MLS
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MLS

Maybe the realisation that being a useful idiot for the warmongers wont save him when the bombs start falling on his smug little head?
Troll armour isn’t radiation proof Matt and you don’t have an invite to the 1%’s bunker

USAMNESIA
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USAMNESIA

Best line, ” If Russians are “mocking” international law, the Israelis have tarred and feathered it, and the American’s took it out behind the barn and shot it in the head. This level of hypocrisy is nauseating. Brazilian educator Paulo Freire observed that manipulation of public thinking “is an instrument of conquest” and an indispensable means by which the “dominant elites try to conform the masses to their objectives.” Everything is make believe; honesty is dangerous. Wars abroad and wars at home must be constantly stage managed to keep the pretentions alive. Our national news constantly stage manages events to… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

It is very easy, so long as you are a psychopath. Bohm obviously was not. Capitalism is psychopathy in action, so when, as now, societies are TOTALLY dominated by capitalists, it is psychopaths who are in charge everywhere, and they project their values of insatiable greed, gigantic egomania, unscrupulousness, preference for violence and absence of empathy and compassion onto society. Hence our terminal plight, and INEVITABLE end.

physicsandmathsrevision
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The obvious truth has not stopped almost the entire MSM continuing to bang on about Russia with the same lying propaganda that was fed to them over a year ago. The MSM is one with the Intelligence Services. It IS government. Almost unimaginably corrupt. Boycott them and encourage everyone to do the same.

mog
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mog

Great journalism.
Thanks kit.

MichaelK
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MichaelK

I must, finally, be getting… old. Or at least it sure feels that way. I’ve heard all this crap before. Listening to members of the Washington ruling elite prattling on about ‘freedom’ ‘democracy’ and our precious ‘democracy’, makes me shake my head in disbelief. How on earth can anyone take all this cant coming from these people, seriously? Christ… the FBI and the CIA are the American secret police, formed to undermine democracy, at home and abroad; yet, suddenly the left and liberals think they’re heroes defending us from the Russian menace! When and how did this happen, that people… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

I agree, the editorial and political turn taken by the Guardian over the last few years is baffling. Hardly a day goes by without a (generally fact-free) article promoting neo-imperialist lies about Syria, Brexit, Russia, etc.
Could by any chance the intelligence services be holding some videos of Guardian people – you know, golden showers, bondage, necrophilia, kitten strangling or whatever?

George Cornell
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George Cornell

Maybe they do have videos starring barnyard animals but they don’t need em. Look at their Board from 3 years ago. All white, all men, all City/Oxbridge, minority-free. Then they hire Viner because she promises to be a good girl and off they go, squandering all the capital built up by decades of honest and real reporting, and replace it with 24/7 opinionism.

George Cornell
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George Cornell

Yes , to remain at the Guardian you must have had a removal of conscience, total suspension of disbelief, and taken a fancy to coprophagia.

tonyopmoc
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Excellent, research, analysis and presentation. Someone has really been digging, and I learnt a few things here. But in my view Robert Mueller, looks absolutely nothing like Gary Cooper (great to see the girls knitting ) in High Noon. He doesn’t look anything like an All American hero. He looks like he is completely hating, his involvement in this total load of nonsense and lies. In fact he looks like “Death Warmed Up” in a movie that can never be made, because we will all be dead as a result of this American lunacy in provoking Russia, who have an… Read more »

George Cornell
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George Cornell

I think Mueller has the demeanour and facial expression of a tattered downcast Colin
Powell, finding out he had been had, when sent to the UN with his imaginary diagrams of Sadaam’s non-existent WMDs.
America is skilled at corrupting those with startup integrity.

Ron
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Ron

Excellent

dliv1402
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Nicely written the whole Russian Election thing is a mess frankly ; Yup I think the Russians did stuff were they stupid enough to involve Trump ? unlikely as to be honest he is unstable hardly someone you could trust as an asset . But hey it probably cost less than a warship and must be worth it for demoralising the US armed forces , never mind the fact that the USA seems to be tearing itself apart over this . Putin must mark it down as a big win , who ever thought this up will be getting a… Read more »

MichaelK
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MichaelK

What I find really rather depressing, is that the Guardian/Observer is supposed to represent the ‘best’ liberal/left journalism has to offer these days, compared to most of the rest. That they can accept and amplify a massive and absurd conspiracy theory about Russian collusion with the Trump campaign and stealing the US election, based on next to no real, concrete, evidence at all; but instead a great edifice of lies, conjecture and spin, is extraordinary and a disgrace. I have difficulty with them, the journalists. They are actively fanning the flames of a propaganda war aimed at outlawing Russia and… Read more »

George Cornell
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George Cornell

There clearly was an ideological takeover at the Fraudian, around the time of the Snowden affair. Since then there has been a monotonous stream of bullshit, all aimed at convincing readers that Russia is bad, we are good and no stone be left unturned to protect Israel from real and imaginary enemies, but not protecting Israel from its greatest danger, itself. This is a paper in which it was announced that the defining event of the 20th century was the Holocaust. Not the slaughter of more than 10 million Congolese by Leopold and his men, not the saving of hundreds… Read more »

MichaelK
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MichaelK

I think the defining ‘event’ of the 20th century was obviously those two great European wars, which escalated into a great global conflict without compare, also known as WW1 and part two, WW2. The Holocaust, terrible as it was, was not the defining event by any means. What about the mass-slaughter in China during the Japanese occupation or the gigantic war between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany? One would have to be stunningly myopic not to see the Holocaust in the broader perspective of the insanity of the two great European wars. Without WW1 it’s hard to imagine the… Read more »

tutisicecream
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Yes “goodbye and thank’s for all the fish” (Apologies to Douglas Adams). But you make some good points. It seems to me that although the Graun’s circulation was never on a par with many Tory rags, it targeted opinion leaders in the wider community. Teachers, Students, Lecturers etc. So what has now happened is a propaganda coup for the deep state. It has turned the Guardian against its active readership, that alone is a success. The real corruption though is within the ranks of hacks and editors who far from fighting back appear to just be prepared to ride the… Read more »

Piccolomi
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Piccolomi

“The first was about protecting Israel from UNSC condemnations”.
Why was the US government looking after the interests of a foreign state?
Surely the fact that the US government works to further Israel’s interests rather than “America First” is far more serious than the “intervention” of Russia in the presidential election.
The fact that most of Trump’s advisers hold joint Israeli/US passports is also a matter for serious concern, and explains the warmongering against Iran.

tutisicecream
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It is worth noting that these indictments, which signify nothing, were released on Friday so giving the whole weekend for the likes of the Guardian and other WMSM to hype their falsified Russian sound and fury narrative. The Observer’s anonymous editorial, skilfully dissected by Kit, shows just how much false narrative can be shovelled down people’s throats over their Sunday breakfast. “How to eat your Propaganda on Toast”, it really belong in the lifestyle section! Also, Shaun Walker’s “Long (goodbye with) Hangover” makes the Sunday breakfast table too. The hack who presented such notable pieces as – his aversion for… Read more »

Sav
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Sav

The lies are massive but they get away with them because most people live under the illusion that those printing them are experts and provide critical reporting.
Good work.

Jerry Alatalo
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Bravo! Keep on in the fight against warmongers at every turn. Universal engagement in the battle against war criminals is more important and necessary than ever before.

John A
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John A

When I first read this editorial, I assumed it would not be open to comments. Then later I saw it was. The first half dozen comment were deleted by moderators and then there was a blizzard of ‘american bots’ praising the article. What amazed me was why Putin, who has reversed the shock doctrine neoliberal attack on Russia and reversed declining mortality rate, raised living standards etc., etc. in Russia and very logically has a very high approval rating, 80% or so, would need to ‘steal’ the election. The observer/guardian is mindblowing in its simplicity and assumptions that its readership… Read more »

Mikalina
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Mikalina

It’s part of a web of stories designed to reinforce each other aka perception management. Google any of the subjects and the establishment viewpoint will come first, second and third. “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” We must realise by now that we (the people) are just as much under attack as anyone from another country – only its slow, insidious and amorphous. The end will be the same. Keep posting the simple truth in articles like these – “We have now sunk to a depth at which… Read more »

Paul
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Paul

Steele’s urination dossier was based on what he had gleaned when Head of the Russian Desk at MI6 not very long ago. He would have needed approval to send the dossier quite apart from the Official Secrets Act. Given that MI6 is an Intelligence Agency it might be thought they knew the destination of the dossier and the use to which it might be put. Isn’t there a better case that the UK’s interference had more influence than Russia? Will Mueller Indict somebody in MI6? Will Steele ever be examined by Congress?

BigB
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BigB

Paul: have you read this article from WaPo? It gives an indication of the British involvement. Such as, it was former Ambassador Sir David Wood who was instrumental in handing off the Steele Dossier to McCain. Sir Richard Dearlove was also involved, if only for ‘advice’ given at the Garrett Club to Steele and Burrows. Alex Thomson discussed the article on the UK Column. He also named Nigel Inkster and a “top official from the Cabinet Office” as potentially being involved. Given the standard of proof required: that’s more than enough to allege UK interference? [UK Column News – 9th… Read more »

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Paul

Yes BigB I have now read the WaPo article – thank you very much, it’s illuminating. NB one incident I seem to remember hasn’t resurfaced? Steele said Trump’s lawyer Cohen met a Russian Intelligence Agent at Prague airport but it was debunked when it emerged Cohen had in fact been at a Conference in Canada at the time? Steele said there had been a Cohen on a passenger list; that was enough for him to create ” a meeting”. It’s a clue as to to the way he worked.

BigB
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BigB

More salient than that: the “Grassley-Graham Referral” [also linked from WaPo article] alleged that “redacted – a friend of the Clintons” (Cody Shearer?) fed Steele allegations to include in his dossier. So HRC not only paid Steele, it appears she told him what to say?

BigB
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BigB

Erratum: Sir Andrew Wood.

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

The sad thing is, by admitting that Trump had no connection to the 13 accused ‘election hackers,’ his accusers are offering him an easy out–with the expectation that he will pay them back by turning against Russia. Trump has already acquiesced in new arms shipments to Ukraine, and he doesn’t seem to have any problem with the Pentagon randomly attacking (among others) Russian soldiers and contractors in Syria. If there were ever any doubt, it now seems obvious that “the swamp” has successfully drained Trump. Start digging your bomb shelters, people …

MLS
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MLS

Well this was always the ultimate point. Not getting Trump, but making sure Trump falls in line with the insane plan to get Russia. It’s hard to see how this ends. Like the Terminator they absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until they are physically incapable of moving another step. But will the world survive long enough for that to happen? Or will Russia cave rather than risk war? Without Putin at the helm I think ‘compromises’ will start and then pretty soon Russia is back in the fold with a token president and the IMF running the show. Like the… Read more »

A Petherbridge
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A Petherbridge

Thank you for another excellent article – from downunder.

summitflyer
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summitflyer

The picture below the heading : “This is what “foreign interference” looks like:”
is precisely what they don’t want you to focus on .
All bull$it as far as I am concerned .Look hear as they re-direct your attention away from real criminality.And I don’t need to go into that for most that follow this site .