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		By: vexarb		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15662</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vexarb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2018 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15659&quot;&gt;Mikalina&lt;/a&gt;.

@mikalina. Your suspicion is justified, and will become more so as AI improves. But I am not worried about the possibility of my mind being taken over by a robot&#039;s ideas because, having been infected by propaganda in the past, people develope some immunity. As for potential readers being put off by &quot;meaningless&quot; posts, we are all adults here, versed in the game of Wheat from Chaff.  Personally, I like a bit of roughage in my gruel, it helps the digestive muscles to work. But the deliberate insinuation of poison into the public wellspring is &#039; more serious affair.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15659">Mikalina</a>.</p>
<p>@mikalina. Your suspicion is justified, and will become more so as AI improves. But I am not worried about the possibility of my mind being taken over by a robot&#8217;s ideas because, having been infected by propaganda in the past, people develope some immunity. As for potential readers being put off by &#8220;meaningless&#8221; posts, we are all adults here, versed in the game of Wheat from Chaff.  Personally, I like a bit of roughage in my gruel, it helps the digestive muscles to work. But the deliberate insinuation of poison into the public wellspring is &#8216; more serious affair.</p>
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		By: milosevic		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15661</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[milosevic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2018 15:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15657&quot;&gt;m&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;It is all mindblowingly Orwellian.&lt;/i&gt;
Indeed, the 9/11 Official Story might have been copied directly from &lt;b&gt;1984&lt;/b&gt;.
Maybe it was, as an inside joke, and a slap in the face to those who see through it.
&quot;We know you know, but there&#039;s nothing you can do about it. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Big Brother is watching you. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.&quot;]]></description>
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<p><i>It is all mindblowingly Orwellian.</i><br />
Indeed, the 9/11 Official Story might have been copied directly from <b>1984</b>.<br />
Maybe it was, as an inside joke, and a slap in the face to those who see through it.<br />
&#8220;We know you know, but there&#8217;s nothing you can do about it. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Big Brother is watching you. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.&#8221;</p>
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		By: milosevic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[milosevic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2018 14:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15652&quot;&gt;Thom Prentice&lt;/a&gt;.

As I pointed out above, you yourself strongly suggested the false-flag nature of the 9/11 event. Are you aware that Chomsky claims that people who believe this, do so not because of the absolutely overwhelming evidence, but because they are mentally defective?
Do you seriously maintain that this is not a problem, and that Chomsky&#039;s absolute refusal to address the evidence, while slandering those who do, is an intellectually or ethically defensible position?
Presumably you know that he has exactly the same position on the JFK assassination -- &quot;nothing to see here, move along.&quot; Do you regard THAT as a defensible position?
&lt;i&gt;He&#039;s a shill&lt;/i&gt;, whether or not he&#039;s consciously aware of it. He&#039;s been building up his left-wing credibility for decades, in preparation for such a contingency. And now, in the interest of upholding the foundational pretext for the entire ruling class program, the endless Terror War against the third world, and the fascist assault against the Empire&#039;s domestic population, when it really matters, his CIA handlers have decided to cash him in. And for the large majority of the pathetic first-world &quot;left&quot;, it&#039;s working. Surely, Saint Noam would never deceive us. Never mind the US government, we all know Russia is the real enemy.
It&#039;s almost like somebody planned it that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15652">Thom Prentice</a>.</p>
<p>As I pointed out above, you yourself strongly suggested the false-flag nature of the 9/11 event. Are you aware that Chomsky claims that people who believe this, do so not because of the absolutely overwhelming evidence, but because they are mentally defective?<br />
Do you seriously maintain that this is not a problem, and that Chomsky&#8217;s absolute refusal to address the evidence, while slandering those who do, is an intellectually or ethically defensible position?<br />
Presumably you know that he has exactly the same position on the JFK assassination &#8212; &#8220;nothing to see here, move along.&#8221; Do you regard THAT as a defensible position?<br />
<i>He&#8217;s a shill</i>, whether or not he&#8217;s consciously aware of it. He&#8217;s been building up his left-wing credibility for decades, in preparation for such a contingency. And now, in the interest of upholding the foundational pretext for the entire ruling class program, the endless Terror War against the third world, and the fascist assault against the Empire&#8217;s domestic population, when it really matters, his CIA handlers have decided to cash him in. And for the large majority of the pathetic first-world &#8220;left&#8221;, it&#8217;s working. Surely, Saint Noam would never deceive us. Never mind the US government, we all know Russia is the real enemy.<br />
It&#8217;s almost like somebody planned it that way.</p>
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		By: Mikalina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikalina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2018 22:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15653&quot;&gt;vexarb&lt;/a&gt;.

We use quotes from poetry, the Bible, many places in our metaphorically saturated language.  Using known quotes, well recognised connotation, sprinkling of psychological buzz words and other easily recognisable indicators of communication makes the reader susceptible to believing that a message is being conveyed.  To a certain extent, this is because we are flattered that we are so clever as to recognise the quote, the metaphor, the connotation, etc.
The semantic field definitely changes with each reply but obviously it would as a reply per se.  But words which belong to the semantic field and yet are not really in common use - and certainly not how they are used in the post - appear, I think, at a great rate than is normal.
Added to all this is the joining of recognisable clauses into sentences that do not make sense; using verbs in subject, verb, object which do not &#039;fit&#039; naturally.
When I first tried to read one of these posts, I thought that it could be written by someone whose English was not their first language, but with this level of lexis, it is unlikely that there would be so many grammar inaccuracies.
Going back to Milosovic&#039;s point that the object of a bot is to disrupt the thread, I believe this is the work of a troll (using bot technology?)
I think established contributors will scroll past as BigB does, but newer contributors or prospective contributors will be put off the thread by the intrusion of a piece of obfuscation which pretends to communicate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15653">vexarb</a>.</p>
<p>We use quotes from poetry, the Bible, many places in our metaphorically saturated language.  Using known quotes, well recognised connotation, sprinkling of psychological buzz words and other easily recognisable indicators of communication makes the reader susceptible to believing that a message is being conveyed.  To a certain extent, this is because we are flattered that we are so clever as to recognise the quote, the metaphor, the connotation, etc.<br />
The semantic field definitely changes with each reply but obviously it would as a reply per se.  But words which belong to the semantic field and yet are not really in common use &#8211; and certainly not how they are used in the post &#8211; appear, I think, at a great rate than is normal.<br />
Added to all this is the joining of recognisable clauses into sentences that do not make sense; using verbs in subject, verb, object which do not &#8216;fit&#8217; naturally.<br />
When I first tried to read one of these posts, I thought that it could be written by someone whose English was not their first language, but with this level of lexis, it is unlikely that there would be so many grammar inaccuracies.<br />
Going back to Milosovic&#8217;s point that the object of a bot is to disrupt the thread, I believe this is the work of a troll (using bot technology?)<br />
I think established contributors will scroll past as BigB does, but newer contributors or prospective contributors will be put off the thread by the intrusion of a piece of obfuscation which pretends to communicate.</p>
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		By: Kathy		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2018 14:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15654&quot;&gt;vexarb&lt;/a&gt;.

I try to appreciate all angles in all things. Instinct plays a huge part in my quest. I some times feel that the only true path is meditative inactivity because action always leads to reaction, but I am only human. I find Binra posts often  re ground me though.]]></description>
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<p>I try to appreciate all angles in all things. Instinct plays a huge part in my quest. I some times feel that the only true path is meditative inactivity because action always leads to reaction, but I am only human. I find Binra posts often  re ground me though.</p>
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		By: m		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15657</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2018 13:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15633&quot;&gt;milosevic&lt;/a&gt;.

absolutely agree with your thought process. 911 was the crime of the century. It has not been properly investigated. its architects and enablers have not been brought to justice. this state of affairs enables the suspension of reality not only across government levels but also throughout all western society. Hence, up is down, black is white and the white helmets are a force for good. It is all mindblowingly Orwellian.
Until the 911 reality is acknowledged and expurgated we are on the slow burner to global war and likely human extinction. Classy!]]></description>
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<p>absolutely agree with your thought process. 911 was the crime of the century. It has not been properly investigated. its architects and enablers have not been brought to justice. this state of affairs enables the suspension of reality not only across government levels but also throughout all western society. Hence, up is down, black is white and the white helmets are a force for good. It is all mindblowingly Orwellian.<br />
Until the 911 reality is acknowledged and expurgated we are on the slow burner to global war and likely human extinction. Classy!</p>
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		By: m		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2018 13:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15639&quot;&gt;milosevic&lt;/a&gt;.

rip G S-H a giant in the explanation of the human experience]]></description>
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<p>rip G S-H a giant in the explanation of the human experience</p>
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		By: BigB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15649&quot;&gt;MLS&lt;/a&gt;.

Likewise, I hugely respect your erudition and I am not questioning it. However, in application, it is almost too sensible. If science can only be a  neo-objective closed community: concerned solely with the subtle inference drawn from otherwise unintelligible data - science is rendered redundant. Without science based advocacy: where are we? Another anti-scientific &quot;opinion polling&quot; advertisement would be the Union of Concerned Scientists 1992 , and recent follow up letter, warning humanity of the consequences of its actions.  Should that not have been sent? There has been a call, from within and without the scientific community, for engagement. Scientists are people first and foremost. A disengaged specialist community limited to objectivity and capable only of internal ingroup peer to peer communication maybe scientific: but what use is that to humanity?
On your last point: amen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15649">MLS</a>.</p>
<p>Likewise, I hugely respect your erudition and I am not questioning it. However, in application, it is almost too sensible. If science can only be a  neo-objective closed community: concerned solely with the subtle inference drawn from otherwise unintelligible data &#8211; science is rendered redundant. Without science based advocacy: where are we? Another anti-scientific &#8220;opinion polling&#8221; advertisement would be the Union of Concerned Scientists 1992 , and recent follow up letter, warning humanity of the consequences of its actions.  Should that not have been sent? There has been a call, from within and without the scientific community, for engagement. Scientists are people first and foremost. A disengaged specialist community limited to objectivity and capable only of internal ingroup peer to peer communication maybe scientific: but what use is that to humanity?<br />
On your last point: amen!</p>
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		By: vexarb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vexarb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2018 06:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/28/deconstructing-the-next-war-section-in-the-economist/#comment-15644&quot;&gt;milosevic&lt;/a&gt;.

@milosevic. I skipped that post because I found it a  jumble, irrespective of whether the intelligence which produced it was Human or Artificial.]]></description>
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<p>@milosevic. I skipped that post because I found it a  jumble, irrespective of whether the intelligence which produced it was Human or Artificial.</p>
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