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		By: JudyJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2018 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/#comment-22491&quot;&gt;JudyJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Further to my post above, I wonder if this money is to be forwarded to the White Helmets to make their propaganda videos even more professional.  That is the only reason I can think for the UK Govt handing over this money.   I have been unable to find any msm reference to this funding, only Peter Hitchens reference where he says that &quot;the Foreign Office have just confirmed to me...&quot;.  Methinks a letter to my MP is called for.]]></description>
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<p>Further to my post above, I wonder if this money is to be forwarded to the White Helmets to make their propaganda videos even more professional.  That is the only reason I can think for the UK Govt handing over this money.   I have been unable to find any msm reference to this funding, only Peter Hitchens reference where he says that &#8220;the Foreign Office have just confirmed to me&#8230;&#8221;.  Methinks a letter to my MP is called for.</p>
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		By: JudyJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2018 22:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unbelievably, I&#039;ve Just seen in Peter Hitchens&#039; Mail on Sunday blog today that the Foreign Office, not satisfied with giving money to jihadi terrorists via the White Helmets,  has given the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights just short of £195,000 for communications and camera equipment.   Boris Johnson presumably thinks it is something akin to Jodrell Bank.   He obviously doesn&#039;t realise it&#039;s just a man on the end of a phone with a hotline to a man on the street in Idlib.  Anyone think they will demand to see a genuine receipt for what WE are paying for?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievably, I&#8217;ve Just seen in Peter Hitchens&#8217; Mail on Sunday blog today that the Foreign Office, not satisfied with giving money to jihadi terrorists via the White Helmets,  has given the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights just short of £195,000 for communications and camera equipment.   Boris Johnson presumably thinks it is something akin to Jodrell Bank.   He obviously doesn&#8217;t realise it&#8217;s just a man on the end of a phone with a hotline to a man on the street in Idlib.  Anyone think they will demand to see a genuine receipt for what WE are paying for?</p>
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		By: balkydj		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 10:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/#comment-22486&quot;&gt;candideschmyles&lt;/a&gt;.

Chomsky&#039;s main problem is/was that he never really understood the technical side of financial markets and their inherent weaknesses in regulatory designs: that have always favoured continuously the hegemony &#038; control of all markets, via &#039;their&#039; five point strategic plan of the ruling corporate class &#039;elites&#039;, who control also all &#038; any info. flow one way or another.
A well proven, documented and fully admitted Mossad tactic.
Communications the key ..
After Enron &#038; 9/11 , Chomsky really should have woken up to the systemic regulatory failures, from pensions to derivatives, &#038; much much more &#062;&#062; given that the SEC Investigative Records for Enron were in WTC 7 , at the moment of WTC 7&#039;s miraculous &#038; scientifically impossible &quot;Freefall&quot; ..
9/11 really does represent Chomsky&#039;s &#039;Freefall&#039; from any notions of intellectual grace &#038; respect, because like many other systemic &#039;tools&#039; , he is in total denial of all Science, both Physics &#038; Humanities (inc. Sociology &#038; Economics) &#038; therefore represents today, the perfect societal example of cognitive dissonance, which serves as a disservice to any of his philosophical notions , because he fails to evaluate the whole picture and would prefer to believe that the aluminium &#039;nose cone&#039; of an aircraft could fly right through steel columns, indeed a whole walled building, in one side and out the other side wholly in TACT &#038;&#038;&#038; .. in tandem with scandalous bond(age), stock market , insurances &#038; financial fraud of the hugest scale ever witnessed in the history of Economics and Central Banking. That can being kicked down the road until 2008 &#038; onwards again to today .. Government Bonds anybody ? Let&#039;s ask Chomsky if he wants all his pension tied to
Bond-age-relief funds, lol
I could of course ridicule him much more, scientifically, but that would be wasting time on an old fool of fools, that lost the plot !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/#comment-22486">candideschmyles</a>.</p>
<p>Chomsky&#8217;s main problem is/was that he never really understood the technical side of financial markets and their inherent weaknesses in regulatory designs: that have always favoured continuously the hegemony &amp; control of all markets, via &#8216;their&#8217; five point strategic plan of the ruling corporate class &#8216;elites&#8217;, who control also all &amp; any info. flow one way or another.<br />
A well proven, documented and fully admitted Mossad tactic.<br />
Communications the key ..<br />
After Enron &amp; 9/11 , Chomsky really should have woken up to the systemic regulatory failures, from pensions to derivatives, &amp; much much more &gt;&gt; given that the SEC Investigative Records for Enron were in WTC 7 , at the moment of WTC 7&#8217;s miraculous &amp; scientifically impossible &#8220;Freefall&#8221; ..<br />
9/11 really does represent Chomsky&#8217;s &#8216;Freefall&#8217; from any notions of intellectual grace &amp; respect, because like many other systemic &#8216;tools&#8217; , he is in total denial of all Science, both Physics &amp; Humanities (inc. Sociology &amp; Economics) &amp; therefore represents today, the perfect societal example of cognitive dissonance, which serves as a disservice to any of his philosophical notions , because he fails to evaluate the whole picture and would prefer to believe that the aluminium &#8216;nose cone&#8217; of an aircraft could fly right through steel columns, indeed a whole walled building, in one side and out the other side wholly in TACT &amp;&amp;&amp; .. in tandem with scandalous bond(age), stock market , insurances &amp; financial fraud of the hugest scale ever witnessed in the history of Economics and Central Banking. That can being kicked down the road until 2008 &amp; onwards again to today .. Government Bonds anybody ? Let&#8217;s ask Chomsky if he wants all his pension tied to<br />
Bond-age-relief funds, lol<br />
I could of course ridicule him much more, scientifically, but that would be wasting time on an old fool of fools, that lost the plot !</p>
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		By: tomiejones		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 09:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;https://circusbuoy.wordpress.com/2018/04/29/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;circusbuoy&lt;/a&gt; and commented:
fools rush in where angels fear to tread, as did the howling hounds baying for retribution against Assad for a false flag situation re chemical weapons.these fools have gone very quite especially Isreal.mossad did their dirty tricks to disrupt,distract .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="https://circusbuoy.wordpress.com/2018/04/29/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/" rel="nofollow">circusbuoy</a> and commented:<br />
fools rush in where angels fear to tread, as did the howling hounds baying for retribution against Assad for a false flag situation re chemical weapons.these fools have gone very quite especially Isreal.mossad did their dirty tricks to disrupt,distract .</p>
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		By: balkydj		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 07:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/#comment-22485&quot;&gt;intergenerationaltrauma&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent comment on matters which cross my mind daily ..
My heart bleeds for the ole&#039; school journalists, like Robert Fisk, far removed from the &#039;office politics&#039; of armchair &#038; keyboard warriors back in London: office politics , which have been heavily infiltrated by a wide variety of undercover operatives, of differing nationalities but common objectives : especially in particular relating to any &quot;Comments&quot; sections of any publication open to the public.
Who controls and regulates the Moderators ? Certainly no-body &#039;independent&#039; , with a focus on community regs &#038; the relative Laws pertaining ..
It is no longer even worth mentioning &#039;The Guardian&#039; in this regard, logic: but it is worth mentioning Fisk&#039;s recent report from Douma, in the &#039;independent&#039; and the fact that it was &#039;tucked&#039; away out of sight, speedily, and with ZERO possibility to comment ! Poor guy, Fisk doing his best , not without &#039;Risk&#039;, only to be scuttled and sunk in the quagmire of various Faux/Foe/False colleagues/operatives, with ulterior media agendas &#038; strategy &#038; backers in London.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-chemical-attack-gas-douma-robert-fisk-ghouta-damascus-a8307726.html
No comments !
I mention this because, many people have fled the Guardian comments in disgust, e.g. like the &#039;GreatRonRafferty&#039; and therefore tried their hand at the &#039;independent&#039;, only to realise after a while that &quot;Birds of a feather flock together&quot; , also across the boards of broad control by subversive mainstream media &#039;Moderators&#039;, (read: undercover censors &#038; suppressors of dissenting opinions &#038; legitimate questioning).
When off-guardian first started, there was certain USA fellow involved, who I suspected was wholly untrustworthy from the outset, (researching his history), in precisely the manner you mention &#038; in his subversive intentions, he proved you &#038; me correct. Even trying to stake a claim to the &quot;Name&quot; online of www.off-guardian.org ..
Tortuous moments of realisation for well intentioned souls  @OFFG , that frustrate, costing much time &#038; wasted mental energy expended to resolve with legitimate constructive solutions.. but they battle on, wiser in future to the immoral games that deviants &#038; miscreants play, today !  ;)
Fortunately for all :)
P.s. I was surprised you did not mention Sibel Edmonds .. :)
Lol, more important is that the reporter , Dilyana Gaytandzhieva , is credible (imo), even if she became confused in whom she could place her Trust .. a bit like Robert Fisk , in reality .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/#comment-22485">intergenerationaltrauma</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent comment on matters which cross my mind daily ..<br />
My heart bleeds for the ole&#8217; school journalists, like Robert Fisk, far removed from the &#8216;office politics&#8217; of armchair &amp; keyboard warriors back in London: office politics , which have been heavily infiltrated by a wide variety of undercover operatives, of differing nationalities but common objectives : especially in particular relating to any &#8220;Comments&#8221; sections of any publication open to the public.<br />
Who controls and regulates the Moderators ? Certainly no-body &#8216;independent&#8217; , with a focus on community regs &amp; the relative Laws pertaining ..<br />
It is no longer even worth mentioning &#8216;The Guardian&#8217; in this regard, logic: but it is worth mentioning Fisk&#8217;s recent report from Douma, in the &#8216;independent&#8217; and the fact that it was &#8216;tucked&#8217; away out of sight, speedily, and with ZERO possibility to comment ! Poor guy, Fisk doing his best , not without &#8216;Risk&#8217;, only to be scuttled and sunk in the quagmire of various Faux/Foe/False colleagues/operatives, with ulterior media agendas &amp; strategy &amp; backers in London.<br />
<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-chemical-attack-gas-douma-robert-fisk-ghouta-damascus-a8307726.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-chemical-attack-gas-douma-robert-fisk-ghouta-damascus-a8307726.html</a><br />
No comments !<br />
I mention this because, many people have fled the Guardian comments in disgust, e.g. like the &#8216;GreatRonRafferty&#8217; and therefore tried their hand at the &#8216;independent&#8217;, only to realise after a while that &#8220;Birds of a feather flock together&#8221; , also across the boards of broad control by subversive mainstream media &#8216;Moderators&#8217;, (read: undercover censors &amp; suppressors of dissenting opinions &amp; legitimate questioning).<br />
When off-guardian first started, there was certain USA fellow involved, who I suspected was wholly untrustworthy from the outset, (researching his history), in precisely the manner you mention &amp; in his subversive intentions, he proved you &amp; me correct. Even trying to stake a claim to the &#8220;Name&#8221; online of <a href="http://www.off-guardian.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.off-guardian.org</a> ..<br />
Tortuous moments of realisation for well intentioned souls  @OFFG , that frustrate, costing much time &amp; wasted mental energy expended to resolve with legitimate constructive solutions.. but they battle on, wiser in future to the immoral games that deviants &amp; miscreants play, today !  😉<br />
Fortunately for all 🙂<br />
P.s. I was surprised you did not mention Sibel Edmonds .. 🙂<br />
Lol, more important is that the reporter , Dilyana Gaytandzhieva , is credible (imo), even if she became confused in whom she could place her Trust .. a bit like Robert Fisk , in reality .</p>
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		By: Schlüter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 04:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As for Western morals see also:
“A Reminder: Neocon Think Tanks and Fascism”: https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/a-reminder-neocon-think-tanks-and-fascism-zur-erinnerung-neocon-think-tanks-und-faschismus/
Sunday regards]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Western morals see also:<br />
“A Reminder: Neocon Think Tanks and Fascism”: <a href="https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/a-reminder-neocon-think-tanks-and-fascism-zur-erinnerung-neocon-think-tanks-und-faschismus/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/a-reminder-neocon-think-tanks-and-fascism-zur-erinnerung-neocon-think-tanks-und-faschismus/</a><br />
Sunday regards</p>
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		By: candideschmyles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 00:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/#comment-22476&quot;&gt;Thomas Prentice&lt;/a&gt;.

I tend to side with you that Chomsky is indeed a &quot;gatekeeper&quot; for the western faux-left intelligentsia. His refusal to even discuss, when he should have devoted at least one of his enumerable tomes, to 9/11 was likely the circumstance that exposed his deviousness to the awake. Indeed his collective narative is actually quintessentially that of the Zionist ego that absolutely has to brag about it&#039;s motives and methods in clever ways that fall short of prosecutable confession. By presenting as critique you can disseminate policy hidden in plain sight.
Having met and associated with many exiled Kurds in the town of Argos in southern Greece in the late 1980s I have some sympathy for them and would support their cause for a home to call their own. However their struggle has been thoroughly usurped by US/Israeli infiltration of the Kurdish leadership&#039;s in Turkey,Iraq and Syria. So alas I can have no support for them any more and do not see an end to the suffering of this noble stateless people any time soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/#comment-22476">Thomas Prentice</a>.</p>
<p>I tend to side with you that Chomsky is indeed a &#8220;gatekeeper&#8221; for the western faux-left intelligentsia. His refusal to even discuss, when he should have devoted at least one of his enumerable tomes, to 9/11 was likely the circumstance that exposed his deviousness to the awake. Indeed his collective narative is actually quintessentially that of the Zionist ego that absolutely has to brag about it&#8217;s motives and methods in clever ways that fall short of prosecutable confession. By presenting as critique you can disseminate policy hidden in plain sight.<br />
Having met and associated with many exiled Kurds in the town of Argos in southern Greece in the late 1980s I have some sympathy for them and would support their cause for a home to call their own. However their struggle has been thoroughly usurped by US/Israeli infiltration of the Kurdish leadership&#8217;s in Turkey,Iraq and Syria. So alas I can have no support for them any more and do not see an end to the suffering of this noble stateless people any time soon.</p>
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		By: intergenerationaltrauma		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 00:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Counterpunch, Truthdig, Democracy Now and other &quot;alternative progressive media&quot; remind me of the work the CIA was doing to influence and manipulate media during the Cold War.  The CIA was both funding and insuring pro-American content through editorial control of progressive, and socialist journals in Europe such as &quot;The Partisan Review&quot; and &quot;The Paris Review&quot; even in the 1950s, unknown to the other writers being published by such journals.  By publishing credible progressive writers and content most of the time, such publications gain credibility in the eyes of the public.  When they then repeat the imperialist CIA pro-regime change propaganda they are seen as more trustworthy than MSM by their followers, though in fact they are simply parroting the same CIA pro-war nonsense.  I can think of few things more despicable than such amoral shilling for empire cloaked under the guise of humanism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Counterpunch, Truthdig, Democracy Now and other &#8220;alternative progressive media&#8221; remind me of the work the CIA was doing to influence and manipulate media during the Cold War.  The CIA was both funding and insuring pro-American content through editorial control of progressive, and socialist journals in Europe such as &#8220;The Partisan Review&#8221; and &#8220;The Paris Review&#8221; even in the 1950s, unknown to the other writers being published by such journals.  By publishing credible progressive writers and content most of the time, such publications gain credibility in the eyes of the public.  When they then repeat the imperialist CIA pro-regime change propaganda they are seen as more trustworthy than MSM by their followers, though in fact they are simply parroting the same CIA pro-war nonsense.  I can think of few things more despicable than such amoral shilling for empire cloaked under the guise of humanism.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2018 00:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/#comment-22476&quot;&gt;Thomas Prentice&lt;/a&gt;.

So, if we were to slander you as you have Chomsky, we could say that you are an apologist for Wahhabist terrorist butchers, with your nonsensical reference to the Uighurs in Xinjiang. Their terrorist attacks on China being a prime US endeavour, perhaps you are posting from Langley, or somewhere close by.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/syria-and-chemical-weapons-debating-the-regime-change-war-in-syria/#comment-22476">Thomas Prentice</a>.</p>
<p>So, if we were to slander you as you have Chomsky, we could say that you are an apologist for Wahhabist terrorist butchers, with your nonsensical reference to the Uighurs in Xinjiang. Their terrorist attacks on China being a prime US endeavour, perhaps you are posting from Langley, or somewhere close by.</p>
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