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		By: Mulga Mumblebrain		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27165</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mulga Mumblebrain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2018 22:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27095&quot;&gt;stevehayes13&lt;/a&gt;.

Asserting that Wahhabism is a form of Islam is akin to claiming that Nazism is a form of Christianity-but with less credibility.]]></description>
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<p>Asserting that Wahhabism is a form of Islam is akin to claiming that Nazism is a form of Christianity-but with less credibility.</p>
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		By: vexarb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vexarb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2018 04:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27140&quot;&gt;Tony M&lt;/a&gt;.

@TonyM. Prompted me to re-read Lucretius (1stC BC) a scathing denunciation of the evils of Foul Religion by a materialist hot-gospeller; probably the best exposition of that opinion ever -- an epic poet of Materialism, as Virgil was the epic poet of Empire. And scarcely 100 years later come Rabbi Yeshuah of Nazareth and Paul of Tarsus to write for Religion in letters of fire.
&quot;... the rest [For and Against] is Commentary.&quot;  -- Rabbi Hillel of Babylon]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27140">Tony M</a>.</p>
<p>@TonyM. Prompted me to re-read Lucretius (1stC BC) a scathing denunciation of the evils of Foul Religion by a materialist hot-gospeller; probably the best exposition of that opinion ever &#8212; an epic poet of Materialism, as Virgil was the epic poet of Empire. And scarcely 100 years later come Rabbi Yeshuah of Nazareth and Paul of Tarsus to write for Religion in letters of fire.<br />
&#8220;&#8230; the rest [For and Against] is Commentary.&#8221;  &#8212; Rabbi Hillel of Babylon</p>
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		By: Vaska		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vaska]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2018 21:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27114&quot;&gt;Jen&lt;/a&gt;.

As I understand it, Mormonism has as its foundational revelations and doctrines a set of texts which have nothing in common with the New Testament, shared by all Christians.  Wahhabism, in contrast, is as Quran-based as any other form of Islam practised by other Muslims.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27114">Jen</a>.</p>
<p>As I understand it, Mormonism has as its foundational revelations and doctrines a set of texts which have nothing in common with the New Testament, shared by all Christians.  Wahhabism, in contrast, is as Quran-based as any other form of Islam practised by other Muslims.</p>
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		By: Editor		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27162</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Editor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27161&quot;&gt;balkydj&lt;/a&gt;.

We put your comments on pre-mod because yesterday you posted the real name of another commenter. This is seriously inappropriate and we need to ensure you don’t do this again. We emailed you about it, but it appears you may not have provided a genuine contact address.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27161">balkydj</a>.</p>
<p>We put your comments on pre-mod because yesterday you posted the real name of another commenter. This is seriously inappropriate and we need to ensure you don’t do this again. We emailed you about it, but it appears you may not have provided a genuine contact address.</p>
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		By: balkydj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[balkydj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27154&quot;&gt;Editor&lt;/a&gt;.

@Admin: Though relevant and not off topic, it appears that you have removed two of my comments: i can imagine why, despite disagreeing with your actions ; so i&#039;ll try again later with an edited version to Reiner , that is ostensibly intended for other&#039;s consumption
&#038; in the meantime it would be useful for background , to help JudyJ if you would be so good as to forward my full comments , both the one to Reiner &#038; to her that ends with the link to &quot;In the Land of Make Believe&quot; Chuck Mangione &#038; Esther Satterfield via email .. i think it will help cheer her profoundly &#038; harmoniously ..
No harm , thur&#039; ..
Itsa&#039; jazz classic that inspires lateral thought processes, with oomph &#038; delicacy for 12 great minutes of morning pleasure &#038; hey, how many people can even identify a Flügelhorn, today ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27154">Editor</a>.</p>
<p>@Admin: Though relevant and not off topic, it appears that you have removed two of my comments: i can imagine why, despite disagreeing with your actions ; so i&#8217;ll try again later with an edited version to Reiner , that is ostensibly intended for other&#8217;s consumption<br />
&amp; in the meantime it would be useful for background , to help JudyJ if you would be so good as to forward my full comments , both the one to Reiner &amp; to her that ends with the link to &#8220;In the Land of Make Believe&#8221; Chuck Mangione &amp; Esther Satterfield via email .. i think it will help cheer her profoundly &amp; harmoniously ..<br />
No harm , thur&#8217; ..<br />
Itsa&#8217; jazz classic that inspires lateral thought processes, with oomph &amp; delicacy for 12 great minutes of morning pleasure &amp; hey, how many people can even identify a Flügelhorn, today 😉</p>
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		By: vexarb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vexarb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2018 04:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27148&quot;&gt;reinertorheit&lt;/a&gt;.

Translations:
пошёл ты в жопу   =    go to hell
 Reiner Torheit    =   Parsifal der Reiner Tor
Be a gallant knight, Reiner, remember the Lady is on your side.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27148">reinertorheit</a>.</p>
<p>Translations:<br />
пошёл ты в жопу   =    go to hell<br />
 Reiner Torheit    =   Parsifal der Reiner Tor<br />
Be a gallant knight, Reiner, remember the Lady is on your side.</p>
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		By: balkydj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[balkydj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27151&quot;&gt;JudyJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Admin said it all, just fine :- no worries there..
but actually, in a way you did us all a big favour: coz&#039; in the abstract sense it gave me the opportunity to not only reply to Reiner in a more serious and analytical manner, but also illuminate &#038; draw others attention to the appallingly &quot;high&quot;(sic) level &#038; scale of manipulative methodology, not least the Psychology &#038; Mentality, of the British Military Intelligence interference in the Governance of Foreign Sovereign Nations ... and Physics too !
by way of evidencing what I said in my comment to D&#039;Stick, given that he is unlikely to open the links, I thought you might appreciate a couple of the things I had originally thought of posting to reine-Frecheit :)
https://www.ted.com/talks/james_b_glattfelder_who_controls_the_world
it&#039;s not too long, but gives a good perspective on the Physics as well as the Psychology involved in herding &#038; swarming, also with a view to today...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/07/new-artificial-intelligence-can-tell-whether-youre-gay-or-straight-from-a-photograph
cough , splutter, I knowwww it&#039;s from the guardian (choking chuckle), but just a quick heads up on what A.i. can do with just 5 Photos of you, me &#038; reineFrecheit .. (with no text ;) ) photos which we could search somehow, if we really wanted to be invasive: point being Secret Services do search, using this kinda&#039; programme, as well, especially coz&#039; it was written by the same guy Michel Kosinski that had his work @Cambridge Uni. cloned by that Prof/Dr. Alex. also of St Petersburg Uni &#062;&#062; point being , they are all &quot;AT IT&quot; , lol, and this could turn out real funny for some of our closeted politicians of all sorts, including the worst kind of E.i. aye aye, if you see where I am heading, in train of thought patterns &#062;&#062; not far down the road and we will be quantifying with certitude the people like that Cardinal Sinner George d&#039;Pedo-PELL, the chief treasurer of the Vatican Bank In &#039;Oz&#039; at the mo. awaiting trial ..
And it is my belief that due to our numbers alone and hackers like Guccifer 2:0, that an Open A.i. will defeat E.i. in the near rather than distant future: because certain faces will just need to disappear from screens of all sorts: bearing in mind that even Mark Zuckerberg was uncomfortable in Congress, as he knew we would be analysing his every facial muscle &#038; behavioural signals that cannot fool a sophisticated A.i. .. with C.A.N.O.E. &#038;&#038;&#038; so many algorithms to still be implemented, like vastly improved facial recognition of African people; sadly lacking at present due to prejudice.. I saw a black woman on TED talking about this factor and she&#039;s working in this direction now, wisely i might add.. I  was gonna&#039; link it but then I thought, naaaah end on a musical N.B. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mLdUFw4Xfc
it is not the narrative of others we should focus upon, in life , moreover, most critical to mental health is the narrative we tell ourselves .. :) )
That incorporates Soul ;) &#038; determines direction ..
(a discussion for another day, incorporating the Pathological Liar :) )
P.s. Not really Friday night music, lol , more of an ideal good morning &#039;oldie&#039; stretch of the imagination, with Chuck&#039;s Flügel horn &#038; Esther&#039;s voice, that he purely chanced upon, having written the song, walking out of the studio &#038; there she was, a new face, singing in exactly the style that he was searching in mind: And the result was &#039;jazz history&#039;, in the making ..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27151">JudyJ</a>.</p>
<p>Admin said it all, just fine :- no worries there..<br />
but actually, in a way you did us all a big favour: coz&#8217; in the abstract sense it gave me the opportunity to not only reply to Reiner in a more serious and analytical manner, but also illuminate &amp; draw others attention to the appallingly &#8220;high&#8221;(sic) level &amp; scale of manipulative methodology, not least the Psychology &amp; Mentality, of the British Military Intelligence interference in the Governance of Foreign Sovereign Nations &#8230; and Physics too !<br />
by way of evidencing what I said in my comment to D&#8217;Stick, given that he is unlikely to open the links, I thought you might appreciate a couple of the things I had originally thought of posting to reine-Frecheit 🙂<br />
<a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/james_b_glattfelder_who_controls_the_world" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ted.com/talks/james_b_glattfelder_who_controls_the_world</a><br />
it&#8217;s not too long, but gives a good perspective on the Physics as well as the Psychology involved in herding &amp; swarming, also with a view to today&#8230;<br />
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/07/new-artificial-intelligence-can-tell-whether-youre-gay-or-straight-from-a-photograph" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/07/new-artificial-intelligence-can-tell-whether-youre-gay-or-straight-from-a-photograph</a><br />
cough , splutter, I knowwww it&#8217;s from the guardian (choking chuckle), but just a quick heads up on what A.i. can do with just 5 Photos of you, me &amp; reineFrecheit .. (with no text 😉 ) photos which we could search somehow, if we really wanted to be invasive: point being Secret Services do search, using this kinda&#8217; programme, as well, especially coz&#8217; it was written by the same guy Michel Kosinski that had his work @Cambridge Uni. cloned by that Prof/Dr. Alex. also of St Petersburg Uni &gt;&gt; point being , they are all &#8220;AT IT&#8221; , lol, and this could turn out real funny for some of our closeted politicians of all sorts, including the worst kind of E.i. aye aye, if you see where I am heading, in train of thought patterns &gt;&gt; not far down the road and we will be quantifying with certitude the people like that Cardinal Sinner George d&#8217;Pedo-PELL, the chief treasurer of the Vatican Bank In &#8216;Oz&#8217; at the mo. awaiting trial ..<br />
And it is my belief that due to our numbers alone and hackers like Guccifer 2:0, that an Open A.i. will defeat E.i. in the near rather than distant future: because certain faces will just need to disappear from screens of all sorts: bearing in mind that even Mark Zuckerberg was uncomfortable in Congress, as he knew we would be analysing his every facial muscle &amp; behavioural signals that cannot fool a sophisticated A.i. .. with C.A.N.O.E. &amp;&amp;&amp; so many algorithms to still be implemented, like vastly improved facial recognition of African people; sadly lacking at present due to prejudice.. I saw a black woman on TED talking about this factor and she&#8217;s working in this direction now, wisely i might add.. I  was gonna&#8217; link it but then I thought, naaaah end on a musical N.B. 🙂<br />
<iframe class="youtube-player" width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/1mLdUFw4Xfc?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent" allowfullscreen="true" style="border:0;" sandbox="allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox"></iframe><br />
it is not the narrative of others we should focus upon, in life , moreover, most critical to mental health is the narrative we tell ourselves .. 🙂 )<br />
That incorporates Soul 😉 &amp; determines direction ..<br />
(a discussion for another day, incorporating the Pathological Liar 🙂 )<br />
P.s. Not really Friday night music, lol , more of an ideal good morning &#8216;oldie&#8217; stretch of the imagination, with Chuck&#8217;s Flügel horn &amp; Esther&#8217;s voice, that he purely chanced upon, having written the song, walking out of the studio &amp; there she was, a new face, singing in exactly the style that he was searching in mind: And the result was &#8216;jazz history&#8217;, in the making ..</p>
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		By: JudyJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JudyJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27122&quot;&gt;Mulga Mumblebrain&lt;/a&gt;.

@admin (cc @mulga) - Thank you, I appreciate your kind and supportive words and actions on the matter of communications with @Reiner.  I agree that we should close exchanges on this issue but I do just, finally, want to stress that @Mulga should certainly not be perceived to be included in any official reprimand.  When I set the record straight about my views on Assad and Putin he apologised immediately for the misunderstanding in a sincere and charming manner;  showing that when such misunderstandings do happen - as they do - they can be simply resolved in a civilised and adult way.  I am used to being the target of abusive &#039;troll&#039;/&#039;apologist&#039; retorts on other forums but it is demoralising to be on the receiving end from people who one actually likes to think of nominally as allies in times when we all need to stick together in our endeavours to stand up for morality and justice.
Kind regards
Judy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27122">Mulga Mumblebrain</a>.</p>
<p>@admin (cc @mulga) &#8211; Thank you, I appreciate your kind and supportive words and actions on the matter of communications with @Reiner.  I agree that we should close exchanges on this issue but I do just, finally, want to stress that @Mulga should certainly not be perceived to be included in any official reprimand.  When I set the record straight about my views on Assad and Putin he apologised immediately for the misunderstanding in a sincere and charming manner;  showing that when such misunderstandings do happen &#8211; as they do &#8211; they can be simply resolved in a civilised and adult way.  I am used to being the target of abusive &#8216;troll&#8217;/&#8217;apologist&#8217; retorts on other forums but it is demoralising to be on the receiving end from people who one actually likes to think of nominally as allies in times when we all need to stick together in our endeavours to stand up for morality and justice.<br />
Kind regards<br />
Judy</p>
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		By: balkydj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[balkydj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2018 20:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/30/saudi-wahabbism-serves-western-imperialism/#comment-27156&quot;&gt;Editor&lt;/a&gt;.

Can you check for 3 X ****wildhorses@***** emails, please ..]]></description>
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<p>Can you check for 3 X ****wildhorses@***** emails, please ..</p>
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