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WATCH: Janette McKinlay, 9/11 Survivor at Ground Zero

Janette McKinley lived just a few blocks from the World Trade Center complex in NYC. When the towers collapsed on September 11 2001 the windows of her apartment were blown in and her home was drenched with the toxic dust.In this unedited raw interview by Dylan Avery, subsequently edited for inclusion in his Loose Change film, Janette recalls the events of that day in vivid and very personal terms.

The toxic dust that was likely the cause of a malignant brain tumour that eventually killed Janette in 2010. In a form of poetic justice it was also a sample of that dust, which Janette saved from her apartment, that permitted Dr. Steven Jones et al to discover what they claim is evidence for pre-planted explosives in the WTC towers.

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flaxgirl
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Is anyone a lawyer? This page does not look serious at all to me. http://vealetruth.com/ William Veale was supposed to have represented April Gallop against Cheney, Rumsfeld and Myers who dismissed the claim on the grounds it was trivial.
OMG! I just watched about half of the video. Janette is so obviously an actor. She starts off with the typical “actual truth” psyop line, “I thought it was a bomb”. How many times have we heard that one in the recent spate of staged events. She smiles all the way through, giving zero indication that she suffered through a horrible experience, and she trots out the lines about the commission being a joke and so on. It’s so damn obvious.
I believe that to really get 9/11 it very much helps to have a certain steeping in all the recent staged events. The steeping helps you get a feel for all the hoaxery. It just becomes so obvious. Without having studied recent events I may never have cottoned on to the fact that 9/11 was a total and utter psyop and not just a half-psyop.

flaxgirl
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Sorry, “frivolous” suit not “trivial.”

phahrenheit451
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Admit to what? I’m NOT wrong. I didn’t question if Dr. Wood was on Fetzer’s program. I question if she made that statement (which I still believe she didn’t). I would rather spend Summer sitting on my deck and enjoy the park* behind me than listen to Fetzer’s whining and gritty voice for 78 minutes. If you know the time stamp, please provide it and I will listen to your claim.
https://www.voanews.com/a/from-golf-range-to-free-range/3304757.html

vexarb
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[3,000 dead — and counting. The ongoing killing by the Bush regime’s 911 terrorist atrocity]:
9/11 Victim Compensation Fund
Reports conducted by the EPA [U$ Environmental Protection Agency — Hah! Hah!] led first responders and residents to believe there was no immediate danger from the dust that erupted after the twin towers collapsed. The EPA stated that the air in Manhattan was safe to breathe in as little as 2 days after 9/11.
[Hence my call for honest public services in the Western World]
Unfortunately, [in the real world] countless health issues have emerged as a result of people inhaling the resulting dust from the collapse of the World Trade Centers—mostly respiratory diseases including asbestos-related diseases like mesothelioma.
The James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act was signed into law in 2011 [by President Obomba] to help the victims of exposure to the toxins released on 9/11. The act pays tribute to James Zadroga, the first 9/11 responder to die from an exposure related illness. The act was approved for five years and will hopefully be renewed to continue helping 9/11 first responders and survivors who may develop an exposure-related illness in the future. [was renewed in 2015 after activist lobbying]
Countless people have been treated under 9/11 health programs, and it is likely the program will need to be expanded in the future due to the latency period of development of cancers like mesothelioma.
https://www.mesotheliomaguide.com/mesothelioma/causes/911-asbestos-risk/
Born in 1971, New York City police detective James Zadroga was one of the many first responders to help at the World Trade Center after the [Bush / Cheney regime’s] terrorist attacks there on September 11, 2001. After his time at the WTC [explosive demolition] site, Zadroga started to experience respiratory problems. He retired from the force three years later because of his poor health. When Zadroga died in 2006, he was the first NYPD officer to pass away from health problems attributed to exposure to the toxic dust from World Trade Center disaster site.

vexarb
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re my prev post “[was renewed in 2015 after activist lobbying]”
Lobbying means that we The Citizens must organize to make the life of Our MP more difficult than his / her Parliamentary Party whip can make it. They Work for You:
http://www.renew911health.org/
The Problem
While Federally-funded health care and medical monitoring for thousands of injured and ill 9/11 responders and survivors has been made permanent, the compensation program for those same responders and survivors will expire in 2020 even as we are expecting thousands more cancer cases from exposure to 9/11 toxins in the coming years.
We must make sure that doesn’t happen.
Who Are We
Citizens for the Extension of the James Zadroga Act Inc. was created by the unions and groups that worked to get Washington to respond to the health crisis facing so many injured and ill 9/11 responders and survivors. Citizens for the Extension will be working in the coming years to make sure 911 Health Watch is permanent.
http://www.renew911health.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/renewed3.png

EC
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EC

Since the whole claim of thermite in the WTC dust is disinformation spread by Steven “Los Alamos” Jones it stands to reason the “dust samples” he used were part of the disinfo. Janette McKinlay was simply another operative.
Dr Judy Wood is the only scientist who has brought genuine analysis to the science of 9/11. She lost her job for doing it and has been shunned. Jones “retired” with a pay rise and “professor emeritus” status.
Jones was also complicit in destroying cold fusion in 1989. He was employed by the Department of Energy to discredit the work of Pons and Fleischmann

balkydj
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@EC
Are you seriously suggesting that the collapse of the three buildings, WTC 7 , WTC 1 & WTC 2, was NOT a series of CONTOLLED DEMOLITIONS ???
Let’s keep this all nice and simple , eh ..
Yes or No ? Controlled demolitions or not, simple science ! Your Binary conclusion .. ???

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Thirty-five up-votes? A ‘flush mob’, perhaps.

flaxgirl
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It’s starting to dawn on me that the level of disinformation is just so enormous that it’s best not to focus at all on things that aren’t particularly relevant and just stick with what is known to be true. What the perps love is disagreement between groups. Judy Wood may well be part of the psyop: having people follow her and people follow the nanothermite and people follow whatever else is EXACTLY what they want, just like the noplaners and the planers etc and the really big divide – the believers and the truthers.
This is what we know to be true:
—9/11 was a psyop.
—WTC-1, WTC-2 and WTC-7 came down by controlled demolition – what exactly brought them down really doesn’t matter.
—The footage of Flight 175 melting into the South tower is computer-generated imagery (CGI). Planes do not melt into steel frame buildings. That is a physical impossibility. Whether there was a real plane flying around that magically disappeared I do not know. Some suggest holograms. But it doesn’t matter whether there really was a plane in the vicinity or not. The footage that they show us of the plane crashing into the building is clearly CGI. From that simple fact we can safely infer that if there was a real plane flying around it didn’t crash into the building and have an impact on the building – they obviously just wanted people to see a plane and whatever they did to the building could all be done from inside.
—There is no compelling evidence of 3,000 people dying. Dealing with loved ones of 3,000 dead when the evidence of controlled demolition is so very strong would be something the perpetrators would be loath to do unless they had a good reason. There is no reason presented for the perps wanting the 3,000 to die.

PSJ
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PSJ

What does a plane look like when it impacts a high rise building? Before we can say the footage was faked we need to look at comparable real footage, or at least a very good computer simulation. Until we do, we’re using argumentum ad populum (“everyone knows” X is true), which is NOT evidence.
You could be correct, but without data we can’t draw conclusions.
And there is the problem of the data that supports some form of plane impact, such as the oscillation of the towers, and the plane debris found at Ground Zero.
Is it possible this was all faked? Sure, but show us why this is more likely (no, not why you THINK it’s more likely why, objectively, evidentially, it’s more likely).
By the way, I agree with your first two points.

flaxgirl
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Lets look at this through the psyop lens.
In this psyop what we can infer is that the perps’ agenda was to:
—Bring down the buildings in the WTC (all the buildings were eventually destroyed and it seems not only as a result of the crashes of the twin towers and WTC-7, for example, WTC-6 was hollowed and WTC-5 was ablaze) – for what reasons I’m not sure (especially as it seems we have been fed propaganda about their reasons) but we can only infer that that is what they wanted.
—Terrorise the population by making them believe that:
——19 terrorists had hijacked 4 planes to crash them into at least three iconic buildings and probably a fourth, a seeming attempt that failed due to people on the plane managing to stop the terrorists.
——these terrorist acts had caused the death of 3,000 people in the planes and the buildings.
—Use this terror as a pretext to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, bring in the Patriot Act, institute massive security measures, as well as, no doubt, a whole host of other things that would work to their benefit.
All they really wanted to do for real in this operation was bring down the buildings. They didn’t give a damn about the terrorists or the planes and they didn’t want to kill the 3,000 people (or possibly only a select few). They just wanted people to be in thrall to their trauma-based mind control psychological operation.
From a psyop lens we ask the question what did they have to do for real and what could they fake?
—Buildings: Obviously, bringing the buildings down had to be real and they couldn’t be brought down other than by controlled demolition presumably which would be pretty hard to fake.
—Planes: Having planes crash into buildings, however, could be faked and possibly couldn’t even happen for real. Pilots say that the low altitude meant the air pressure would be too high for the planes to go at the speeds stated (we’re assuming remote-controlled planes obviously). Also, as Newton’s Third Law of Motion states that for every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction, the far lighter planes would slam into the very heavy buildings, that is, there would be a collision, and thereby expose the fact that the planes hadn’t penetrated the buildings to cause their collapse and also expose from the wreckage that there were no passengers and no terrorists aboard. (I disagree that we need comparable footage. I think that the footage clearly breaks Newton’s Third Law of Motion. We know instinctively and from experience that in a collision between a sedan and a Mack truck it doesn’t matter which vehicle is going 200 kmh and which is stationary, the sedan will be worse off.)
Thus, the alleged footage we’re shown of Flight 175 “melting” into the South tower:
—is not consistent with what we expect from Newton’s Third Law of Motion
—is perfectly consistent with CGI
—fits perfectly with the operation of the psyop
While there may have been wreckage, it is not convincing wreckage. There is simply nothing convincing about this alleged plane crash in any shape or form and it makes far more sense for the perps to fake it than do it for real. Then of course we have the Shanksville plane crash of which the following was said by witnesses:
http://911blogger.com/news/2013-02-19/shanksville-pennsylvania-911-mysterious-plane-crash-site-without-plane
“This crash was different. There was no wreckage, no bodies, and no noise.”
– Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller
“I was looking for anything that said tail, wing, plane, metal. There was nothing.”
– Photographer Scott Spangler
“I was amazed because it did not, in any way, shape, or form, look like a plane crash.”
– Patrick Madigan, commander of the Somerset barracks
of the Pennsylvania State Police
If we assume that no planes crashed then we can can see how they might on empty floors set off small bombs or suchlike that would have little impact on people in the rest of the building so they could be evacuated safely. In fact, if the plane is CGI then the rush of flame we see through the building could also be CGI and we cannot know what other footage they have pre-filmed and intercut such as the “jumpers”, for example. The “jumpers” could have been dummies and filmed on a different day. Very, very handy to perpetrate a psyop where the camera has to jump from the ground to 110 stories up.

flaxgirl
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Oops! Newtons third law if motion – For every action not for every reaction.

Curvalicious Momma
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Curvalicious Momma

Steven Jones is a hero

Harry
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Harry

You must therefore not be aware an 18 month peer reviewed scientific analysis of dust samples from 4 locations around the WTC site was already carried out by a team of scientists led by Dr Niels Harrit phd. The research paper was published in the Banthem Open Chemical Physics Journal in 2009 and it concluded large quantities of Nano Thetmite was present in the demolition of the WTC.
http://aneta.org/NielsHarrit_org/index.htm

phahrenheit451
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Those who want to cover up the evidence of what happen often falsely claim that Dr. Wood is talking about a specific weapon and a specific location of it (e.g. laser beam from outer space, or “spacebeams”). This disinformation campaign was initiated by Steven Jones on 11/11/2006 in a presentation he gave at the University of California, Berkeley.[ available here at 1:53:47 https://archive.org/details/ liftingthefog_2006_11_11_ session2 ], telling his audience that “Judy Woods (Dr. Wood) says it’s a laser or maser from space” while showing how difficult it is to hold his hand like a beam from space. Not only does Dr. Wood NOT SAY THAT, she actually RULES THAT OUT. The mechanism of destruction of a laser beam would be from heat and produce a bright and blinding light. But we know the buildings were not cooked to death. The term Directed Energy is used because energy is directed to do something different then it normally does and it is directed to do this within a certain geographic zone. [As a mental example, think of directing the binding energy of matter to repel instead of attract. A solid object would turn to atomic-sized dust. Direct this to happen within the WTC complex and not across the street.]
At the end of Chapter 20 in Dr. Wood’s book, she explains why playing “name the weapon” game is counterproductive. Name dropping trendy terms is not synonymous with understanding. The easiest example is HAARP. The full capabilities are classified. But people often name-drop the trendy term to APPEAR to know something. A tongue-in-cheek definition of HAARP stands for High Amplitude Advancement of Real Propaganda. They are just substituting “HAARP” for “Bin Laden.”
In Dr. Wood’s book, the closest she comes to “naming a weapon” is merely describing what it creates: magnetic-electrogravitic- nuclear reactions (page 365). But as soon as someone starts talking about a name, people will stop looking at the evidence which is another form of a cover up.
Early on, Dr. Steven Jones created a website he called “The Journal of Nine Eleven Studies” or J.O.N.E.S. It is referred to as a “peer-reviewed journal” but the only peer-reviewing was to screen out true scientific work and post what he wanted his followers to believe. For the first two years, it was primarily used to promote disinformation about Dr. Wood’s work. For example, Jones recruited a patent attorney for the oil and gas industry (James Gourley) to write hit pieces on Dr. Wood, refuting “ray beams from outer space.” This convinced his readers that “Judy Woods” must be talking about “ray beams from outer space” and that “such nonsense has been refuted.” Refuting false propaganda about Dr. Wood’s work does not refute Dr. Wood’s work — yet it creates the belief in the average person that Dr. Wood’s work has been refuted.
Steven Jones and Greg Jenkins also claimed that it would take more than five times the world’s energy to destroy the WTC towers. Does that mean their thermite came from off planet or “outer space”? LOL Steven Jones used to ridicule Dr. Wood during his talks saying that “Judy Woods (Dr. Wood) needs to make calculations to see if it is even possible to turn the buildings to dust”. But any reputable scientist knows that calculations are not a part of observing empirical evidence. What are the calculations for, to prove the buildings are still there or if the buildings are gone? Why not just look? No assumptions needed with empirical evidence.
The bottom line is that no one has refuted anything in Dr. Wood’s book nor can they. They only refute their own false propaganda about her book, not her book. Other detractors claim that “she hasn’t identified the weapon that was used so she’s got nothing.” To the contrary. The evidence is PROOF that there exists a technology that can do what was done. It happened. That is, the fact that the buildings mostly turned to dust in mid-air shows that there exists a weapon that can turn buildings into dust in mid-air. It happened.
The sub-title of the book, “Evidence of Directed Free-Energy Technology on 9/11” indicates that the book contains evidence of what happened on 9/11 and it is indeed evidence that a technology exists that can do what was done. But this technology does not have to be used for evil purposes. It can be used to provide free-energy to the world much to the demise of the oil and gas industry. That is, Dr. Wood is noting that the same technology that was used for evil can also be used for good. It’s a silver lining in the dark cloud… while also trying to stimulate thought about “what are we doing here? learning new ways to kill or to live”?

vexarb
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@Phar. Nano-thermite is the obvious candidate for a Controlled Demolition job — and that is why the Bush regime’s Official Commission (chaired by AZC dual Israeli-U$ agent Philip Zelikow — see Ian Sheehy’s post above) carefully avoided looking for it.
You should seek help for that verbal diarhea.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Is that you, Cass Sunstein? Or are you getting your missus, the fragrant Samantha, to do your dirty work?

Michael McNulty
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Michael McNulty

Regarding 9/11 I was surprised to read just recently that the singer Donna Summer believed the lung cancer that killed her…she didn’t smoke…was from the toxic debris she breathed in that morning in the streets of Lower Manhattan.

vexarb
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@McNulty. Thanks for the info. The family spokesman did not mention which type of non-smoking lung cancer, saying that medical details are confidential. But if Donna’s cancer was really due to breathing in asbestos dust from the explosive demolition of WTC on 911 2001, then it most likely would have been Pleural Mesothelioma. This is a rare cancer, and a significant indicator of asbestos in the air; that is why I wrote to FlaxGirl it is important to have an honest epidemiological record of Pleural Mesothelioma incidence in Manhattan both before and after 911, right up to 2101.
[Search domain http://www.asbestos.com] Pleural mesothelioma is a rare malignant cancer caused by asbestos. Almost 75 percent of cases form in the pleura, which is the soft tissue that covers the lungs.
https://www.asbestos.com/mesothelioma/pleural/

flaxgirl
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And the piece de resistance fake witness is of course Mark Walsh who, two hours after the event, told us how he saw “the plane ream through to the other side,” knew that the buildings fell due to “structural failure”, and referred to Ground Zero, the point below the detonation of a massive bomb. Due to Newton’s Third Law of Motion that states that “for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction” and because we instinctively know that in a collision between a Mack truck and a small sedan we don’t care which of the vehicles is travelling at 200km an hour or which is stationary, we’d choose to be in the Mack truck – we know that plane shown melting into the South Towers as was shown us on 9/11 has to be computer-generated imagery and they certainly do not ream through to the other side as was also shown us – the pop-in/pop-out plane.
Strong evidence suggesting that no one died on 9/11:
They TELL us they’re hoaxing us with witnesses such as the jolly Mark Walsh, the pop-in/pop-out plane, the 20 minute pre-announcement of WTC-7’s collapse, the terrorists popping up alive, the passport that fluttered to the ground and was said to belong to Mohammad Atta but then despite its ludicrously pristine condition was said to belong to Satam al-Suqami. They mash their hoaxery in our faces. They justify their hoaxing of us by TELLING us and if we’re too stupid to pick it up the fault’s on us and this saves them from karmic repercussions. They take this very seriously. Do not underestimate it.
Although I knew this I still thought they killed people even though it really didn’t seem to add up because all the fake whistleblowers were outside my paradigm – I believed the fake whistleblowers. I didn’t get that, of course, the perps would know in advance that people would cotton on to the truth so just for us they devised their clever propaganda with their intimations of people wanted bumped off in the buildings and the whistleblowers. They want there to be a clear distinction between the crazy truthers who believe that the US government would kill the people in the towers and the innocent believers. They need that clear distinction.
Even in the JFK assassination which was real they still give their clues with things like the rubbish rifle of the alleged assassin and probably other things that I can’t think of at the moment or don’t know. Power allows them to do EXACTLY as they please and rub it in our faces. But I really doubt they’d give the kinds of clues they’ve given for 9/11 if they’d killed all the people and it simply does not make sense.

flaxgirl
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vexarb, I do not mean to suggest that people are not dying agonising deaths of contaminants they were exposed to at Ground Zero. I find it hard to believe that people are not, however, that does not mean that they don’t have fake people pretending they are – these people can be used to propagandise whatever material aimed at truthers. With their psyops they generally mix fake into the real. There are fake witnesses mixed in with the real witnesses and fake whistleblowers mixed in with the real. It works a treat. I learnt this from Francis Richard Conolly’s film JFK to 9/11 Everything is a Rich Man’s Trick, where he points out the mixture of the real and fake witnesses with regard to the JFK assassination. This film was what awoke me to 9/11 and how the world is run generally. There’s an awful lot in that film that I still refer back to even though I’ve looked at so much else since. They’ve soft-censored this fantastic film – what a surprise! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM&

mikael
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mikael

Yeah, I never have, nor will bother to read anything about Bin there or Bin that, forget it, that is just bullshit and even in the officiale FBI, BIn-whatever was ONLY to be taken in as an Surspect/vitness, do you understand, that is where its standing, the fact they killed him, dont alter shit, other then of course, an corps dont talk, it simply pays to wack people, why do you think the Joojos are doing it, it pays thats why.
Again, this time I think we all know the tower story is something weird, things dont ad, and when they dont ad, or is incosivable with facts as free fal, I know they are just two things, either ignorant, witch is “understandable” but not acsptable, to people lying, there is no inbetweens here.
I was “lucky”, since I worked night shift, and had some days off, and was home the day it happened, and watched it all, live, and even then they managed to f…. things up, incl BBC, but the thing this time, is Flight 92 ( do correct me if the name iis wrong, I write from my memory, whereas my wife would say, what memory, hehe, ber with me), very intresting because it was/is really, really bad played propaganda, acts slapped together to make more storys out of this wtih an airplain highjacking running simultaniously along with the “officiale” 9/11 scam.
Remember this, now that we have become more familiary with Black Ops, or False flags, since do matters, and when it comes to this, people are scared to go outside the box.
The so called crash site, of an entire comerisale airplain was not more than what I can make by farting against the ground and light it with an matchstick, and some, uh…. crap collected and spread out, was so riddicilously bad and that made my jaw drop, because the towers where happening along the same timeline, but the plains crash site never left my vision, I stil rememeber it.
An rude awakening.
And then we have the PentaGoons, it was an cruice missile not an bloody airplain.
Remember this, the engine is usually made of and cosists by large of metals witch can sustain much higher temps than ordinary steal/aluminium whatever aloy, Titan is beyond that, forget it, and if non of their components was ever present, I know it was NOT an “comerisial jet” by any standard, that is the facts.
And the explosion site it self, etc, it was an low flying cruice missile, and again, I have seen one my self, if you dont actually see whatever is flying, it sound like an big jet engine, its not, its just more efficient and make equally much noice compared to its relative size, do you understand me, its like an jet, except the size.
Again, I have expirienced low flying jets right under the speed limit set over terain, wtich is just belove one mach.
Yeah, once you hear the noice, it has already pased you, the noice comes after.
Get it.
The contradictions is one thing, pure lies another, fake events etc, all smeared iinto one event, the two towers.
And nobody is that intrested in why did the USairfore standed down just that day, incl the flight so called high jacking.
I dont belive diddly squat of their officiale version, and then we have the aftermath of this, terror event, witch have of course lead to more terror, luckily, for the wankees, witch coined their full spectrum dominance camuflaged with the scam called The war on Terror.
Just asking.
Have an nice day
Do the math, 2 plains=3buildings.
peace

balkydj
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If only the Con-Artists of NIST were truly Architectural artists, interested in Ikebana, History & Science, then the global PTSD, (Perverted Twisted (Sodding)/Systemic Dissonance) would have been worked through by now:
I quote:-
“NIST responded that there was no “clear chain of custody” to prove that the four samples of dust came from the WTC site. Jones invited NIST to conduct its own studies using its own known “chain of custody” dust, but NIST did not investigate. ”
No problem NIST ! USE YOUR own SAMPLES you firkin’ SCIENTIFIC MORONS, better said Liars !!
No no no, reality definitely dictates that the NIST ‘chain of custody’ should be with ball & chain :-
They are just plain LIARS that belong in Prison !
However, Thank ‘feck’ for Ikebana Artists & Steven E. Jones of the BYU, exposing the Military Grade Explosive Agent, that was then in its’ height of testing & development , (though Thermobaric Weapons were not new), and New Hellfire Missiles followed immediately, after the testing of the substance & nano-particle mix, on the WTC Complex (by the MIC & Mossad Agents of Demonic Destruction & Demolition Jobs/ MMADDDj), with WTC 7 being their best Testing ground zero evidence; then almost straight onto War in Iraq with same Hellfire mix & bunker busting capability ..
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/agm-114n.htm
Thermobaric explosive effects are proven to devastate , especially within confined spaces, structures just disintegrate, due to the sudden heat & pressure waves that consume all oxygen in an expansive manner & ‘In confinement, a series of reflective shock waves are generated’ ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon
We are experts at destroying ourselves! as I proved to myself , when very young , on one alcohol infused Sunday night after the Bol d’Ors, lighting a huge fire with petrol & fuse.. I started to run & I literally flew faster than Mr. Bolt, a much discussed number of metres upwards (over 3 minimum 😉 ) and at least 15 metres in distance, landing like a sack of potatoes and all the hairs on my legs burnt off, by the scintillating experience of being within a Thermobaric explosive event .. , talk about ‘jumpy’, was subsequently rife amongst all witnesses .. (somewhat shell shocked all night long, ears still ringing from being well & truly ‘in the mix’ , d’balkydj ‘ijut’ 🙂 )
But not a bigger idiot than the guys at NIST: who honestly speaking, should be subjected to a Thermobaric explosion , that ensures they be first incinerated , somewhat roasted , before the shock waves hit, & then being incarcerated for the rest of their days, & waterboarded until they name the person that commanded them to LIE to the Public in denial of all Science: and they should be stripped of all their scientific credentials, forever ..
Shame on NIST ! You have destroyed all international credibility of any good people in the USA , presently, and now the whole of the rest of the world, cannot rest until this 9/11 matter is settled Scientifically , with you NIST Nazi Mofo’s behind bars , first: that we we may move on up the ladder to the Agents of Mossad and their part in all this obviously ZioNazi distraction & confusion: all to cover up the true AshkenNazi actions that were being investigated & hidden within WTC 7 >> which was the Real Target, due to the SEC investigation of ENRON: not just their pension fund manipulation , but their collusion with Monsanto & GEC to manipulate & engineer the Weather successively over many years, in order to buy up Lands & Farmers on the cheap in the ‘Dust Bowl States’ , investing subsequently in a derivative fashion , with certitude, in GMO’s &&& .. turning water into wine at Corporate Will & discretion.
For some strange reason , Balkydj finds that there is a huge amount of cognitive dissonance, & resistance around this subject of Geo-engineering and ZioNazi Weaponised Weather strategies, in tandem with plain scientific denial from the state contracted weather guys & gals , as well as many other governmental depts. , when it is a well proven part & nano-particle today of command strategy ..
Weather wins Wars .. be that a war with military or finance > simple
The only War one can never win with the Weather, today
is this huge great big Phoney ‘War on Terror’ ..
Stop financing Terror: starting with NATO isolating the AshkenNazi Apartheid Arrogance of Israel, sanctioning Israel & get a legal grip on ‘maddog’ Murdoch’s pressTITutes & Co. , via Leveson 2.
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ashkenazi-jews-dna-diseases-20140909-story.html
Oh, and once again, anybody who thinks that the 9/11 official fairy story is over, done & dusted, without any further mention of nano-particles & thermite & what was obviously controlled demolitions, I truly mean anybody & everybody in denial of this, should have their right to vote rescinded , until they have hand written and signed a letter of apology one thousand times, addressed to all children, in any school with kids will do, that also confirms that they were / are the subject of complete cognitive dissonance, in denial of all science and the fact that they were morons to think that they can get away without caring about talking shit for the rest of their lives, worse than children,
therefore back to school for DETENTION ..
Seems only fair 😉
Starting with disMay ! remove her from office / rescind her right to vote, coz’ she is clearly “bonkers” and she must go back to school IMMEDIATELY, to prove her sanity and hand write said note in detention , two thousand times, in her case, for setting an extra bad example to children > logic 🙂
In fact: All voting in every EU Nation should be suspended until we have a European wide referendum that says:
“Do you believe that 9/11 was the result of controlled demolitions or not”
“Yes or No” Pure & Simple ..
If you answer “No”, back to school with disMay ,
The question being way more important than any petty Brexit bull ..
Prioritise investigating ‘The Phoney War on Terror’ in Europe, starting with 9/11, coz’ we have to start somewhere, somewhen, even though the Trans-Atlantic Terror International Politic TTIP , began long long before ..
TTIP 9/11: the A B C of Zionazi Apartheid Ashkenazi Arrogance, or the A – Z , whatever way you want to describe it , Ashkenazi Zionazi forces are unequivocally guilty and behind the TTIP Politic of TERROR !
This matter is of Primary importance: first & foremost for the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation and if they the NATO bosses, cannot handle the enquiry intelligently and NATO officially doesn’t accept that controlled demolitions WERE unequivocally the case, then NATO must be immediately disbanded and European Sovereign Nations must all disconnect completely militarily from
NATO INTELLIGENCE FAILURES !!
No more MONEY for NATO MORONS !
D’Yankee Ashkenazi Zionazi Terror Organisation YAZTO, should stand alone,
as mind control gamers of geopolitics & geoengineering and Europeans can get on with
Getting REAL & dealing with the real sponsors of the War on Terror , & ending dollar hegemony ..
Indeed , it would be fair to say that the real War on Terror begins right here , right now, starting with pinpointing NATO Head ‘Nutters’ , specifically any of whom are in denial of the controlled demolitions of
WTC 1 + 2 + 7 !
Starting with Jens Stoltenberg: a simple question for a simple Norwegian in a position of collective responsibility ..
Dearest Jens,
Do you believe WTC 7 & 1 + 2 were controlled demolitions ?
Yes or No ! ?
And if he answers wrongly SACK HIM immediately > Simples !
und so waiter , step by step , any denial , must be firmly removed ..

rilme
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rilme

Lots of comment here. I have one word to add: “israel”.
Jews, the “is”, and zionists were all over 911. NORAD was stood down. Dov Zakheim was everywhere. Cui bono?
I have spoken.

King Kong
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King Kong

Funny as th e resident trolls are trying hard to take over, Yes I call on you Flaxgirl, a typical stooge if I ever saw one.

bill
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bill

it would seem incredible that some group which had devised such a massive,history-changing event as 9/11 would NOT have a thorough, ongoing,hugely-financed cover-up,and strategy with a range of fall-backs and limited hangouts long in place, if necessary to last decades nor would not have considered the rather paltry need to satisy live witnesses to every incident, but on the old arguments rumble seemingly without even a thorough examination of ALL THE EVIDENCE which is exactly what keeps the lid on it all….” the best way to control the Opposition is to lead it ourselves”

King Kong
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Some people here are of their rockers. They harm non MSM news greatly with their fucking lunacy ideas, their idoitic involved conspiracies, talmudic and what not.
Why dont you go and read your Tarot cards ? Conspiracies excist, but many of the postings here are simply insane and loony.

King Kong
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King Kong

My comment was entirely about the event. It happened. Who or whom was behind it, I do not know. What I know is that it all facts added are something is improbable, it is not natural.
The events at 9/11 in most circumstances defies scientific research, and no one has yet explained the residue from nano termite. No one. My sisters in laws (?) are quite confident in the official explanation, and will not hear anything else. And I will not trouble them, they are old and needs peace somehow.
But facts are undeniable, and the Evil Empire stands in the middle, and has not credibly refuted anything.
The US today is a dictatorship, cleverly disguised as a democracy (HA!) , where you can choose your brand of bought of politicians. Coool ehh?
Do it the Baader Meinhoff way, kill politicians that that lie.

wardropper
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wardropper

This sort of discussion can so easily distract from the core of the matter and have us doubting the evidence of our own eyes an ears.
Reminds me of a quote from ‘The Exorcist’: [Father Merrin to Father Karras]
“Especially important is the warning to avoid conversations with the demon. We may ask what is relevant but anything beyond that is dangerous. He is a liar. The demon is a liar. He will lie to confuse us. But he will also mix lies with the truth to attack us. The attack is psychological, Damien, and powerful. So don’t listen to him. Remember that – do not listen.”
I don’t particularly mean the “do not listen” part, but we do need to consider who it is we are listening to, and what they might stand to gain by encouraging us to see things their way.
Personally, I consider the media silence on WTC7 that very day to be ample proof that a very large narrative was being manipulated in order to confuse us. This page would seem to indicate a certain amount of success on that score too…
It also strikes me as essential and totally logical to suspect any further so-called ‘information’ from the same media sources.
Let’s not forget that the truth is far too appalling for any government to dare admit at this stage, although after 20 or 30 years, they might not care at all who knows it.

Yonatan
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Yonatan

What exactly happened on the day, who was involved, who knew beforehand and did nothing, etc, etc, to a certain extent, was and is not irrelevant. The real issue is that the Deep State was ready and prepared (with the their pre-existing 750+ page USA PATRIOT Act, etc) for the ‘new Pearl Harbor’ as conceptualized by PNAC. As Karl Rove said, the Deep State will create a ‘reality’ (911 was al Qaeda), and the ordinary people can discuss and dissect it but the Deep State will move on and create a new ‘reality’ (Saddam Hussein has WMD). Rinse and repeat.
One key factor following 911 is that the event in itself wasn’t sufficient for the US PATRIOT Act to be passed. It took the anthrax false flag against key reporters and US lawmakers opposed to its passage for the law to be rammed through. The anthrax attack has been disappeared.

vexarb
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@Yonatan. The anthrax hoax disappeared the day after it did its work. When the anthrax story was broadcast on the Beeb I remember saying to my wife that it should not take more than half an hour of gene sequencing to show trace where the sample came from. The deafening silence on its provenance next day confirmed that the anthrax samplse must have come from a lab in the U$A. Like the present silence on St.Theresa’s Novichok proves it came from Porton Down.

wardropper
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wardropper

I pretty much agree with everything you say, but some of the things you mention as not relevant do actually become relevant if one looks ahead to some sort of possible mechanism for stopping future ‘Deep States’ in their infantile tracks.
This is no ordinary carelessness we’re dealing with here.

King Kong
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King Kong

Postulating that there were no victims of 9/11 is rubbish and simply cruel. Postulating that no planes hit the towers is likewise rubbish. Most people who witnessed the events unfolding, myself included, know what we saw. And know what we heard been said. I know a person who was on the spot, a tourist, and I trust what she has told me (14 days after the attack), people died, many people, she saw people falling, people crushed, people waving from windows the towers on fire and then she decided to get out of there. She was due for a trip to the top of the towers, she had an American boyfriend who invited her to see his workplace. He did NOT make it. He died trapped near the top, in tower one, along with many others. Although she, at the moment of the collapse, “not close” (4 kilometers away) she told me of gossip, talking in the crowds, about “explosions” or loud repeated systematic booms.
At the time when she told me this, it did not “connect” , I think everyone, across the globe were mildly catatonic, shell shocked, by the enormity of the act.
I think 3 years passed, both my parents died within 11 months, and I saw the first questions raised, and then slowly my friends story, became focus.
I am today in no doubt, that this event was in some way orchestrated, building 7 is pure fairy tale ( I am a civil Engineer also), but the in foot collapse of the 2 towers is also doubtful, the building was insulated with asbestos (Whatever else about asbestos, it is the best flame insulator ever), the in foot collapse would require an equal weakening in the mass produced steel, which is completely bollocks! Yes on a space shuttle, absolute equal strength, is certified, not on a office building.
In my opinion, Tonkin Bay, USS Liberty, is produced again, this time in widescreen, HD, with unknowing guest hosts on major TV networks……
Please, the Evil Empire struck again, this time time “the sacrifices are worth it”, it was “only” US citizens who paid the price. Unbelievable : Check “Operation Northwood”, GestapoGoogle it.
Two rules of “Inter-netting” :
1.Follow the money
2. One coincidence : ok, two coincidences: Hmmmmnnnn, three coincidences: Fuck off!
PS. The person present at Ground Zero is my sister.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

One of the obvious tactics of the Deep State perpetrators of the various false flags committed to drive the rabble into a proper jingoistic frenzy is the lurid conspiracy theories that serve to discredit by association all the plain facts of the matter, that point, unerringly, to a common or garden conspiracy of the type that elites have engaged in for centuries. So you get ‘mini-nukes’, ‘holograms’, ‘no victims’, ‘death-rays’, blah, blah, blah, all intended to discredit the truth of controlled demolition in the public mind. Mind you the question of what hit the Pentagon and what disappeared down a small hole in Pennsylvania are much more intractable questions, but what happened, and why, and by whom for what purposes, in New York is pretty clear.

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

King Kong : Check “Operation Northwood”, Gestapo Google it.
There is good evidence that the just-in-time release of the “Operation Northwoods document” on 30 April 2001, is also part of the planned ruse to provide “evidence” for the slogan, “9/11 was an inside job”, itself part of the psyop to blame it all on Bushco …
The “Operation Northwoods document” was first presented to the world by James Bamford in his book Body of Secrets and the document leads directly to Michael Hayden, former director of the NSA as it’s source …
The “Northwooods provenance” is covered by the French researcher, Laurent Guyénot’s in his most recent book, From Yahweh to Zion: Jealous God, Chosen People, Promised Land…Clash of Civilizations.
Laurent Guyénot’s 3 part article : La double imposture du 11 Septembre / The double imposture of September 11 is infromative :
Laurent Guyénot : Part 1 : https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/La-double-imposture-du-11-Septembre-29074.html
Laurent Guyénot : Part 2 : https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/La-double-imposture-du-11-Septembre-29162.html
Laurent Guyénot : Part 3 : https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/La-double-imposture-du-11-Septembre-29204.html
Re : Northwooods : Extract from google translation of Part 3
The famous series of films Loose Change (2005) will contribute even more to direct the protest movement towards the hypothesis of drones stolen from the AA11 and UA175 airliners, and at the same time on the track of the American military-industrial complex. One of the most effective arguments of the three young Jews who produced this film (Dylan Avery, Corey Rowe, and Jason Bermas) parallels Operation Northwoods early in the film. This is a false-flag operation to fabricate a casus belli lying against Cuba. General Lyman Lemnitzer, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff , introduced him in 1962 to Kennedy Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, who rejected him. The project included a wave of terrorist acts falsely attributed to Cuba and the explosion over Cuban waters of a charter plane supposed to carry American students on vacation. The explosion was preceded by radio distress messages indicating an attack by a Cuban fighter. The actual passengers would have been secretly transferred to another plane, but a national funeral would be arranged for them. Operation Northwoods was revealed to the public by James Bamford in May 2001, in his book Body of Secrets [ 17 ]. It suffices to prove that in 1962 already, the US military apparatus was capable of turpitude similar to 9/11, at least in theory.
There is, however, reason to wonder about the astonishing coincidence of the revelation of the Northwoods project by James Bamford four months before 9/11, and the advertisement it received immediately on ABC News. For his book Body of Secrets , James Bamford has benefited, says his publisher, from ” unprecedented access to Crypto City [NSA HQ] , senior NSA officers, and thousands of NSA documents [ 18].], All thanks to Michael Hayden, director of the NSA from 1999 to 2005. In other words, it was Hayden who provided Bamford with his sources, including, one can assume, the Northwoods memorandum. We do not know where he found it since this memo is supposed to be the copy found in Lemnitzer’s personal papers. Who is Michael Hayden? Today, he co-directs the Chertoff Group, the security consulting firm of former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff (son of a rabbi and a Mossad pioneer) [ 19 ]. Moreover, Hayden, who in 2001 is generous with Bamford in classified documents, is in 2013 a strong supporter of the imprisonment of journalists who leak documents “secret defense”.
One must therefore reasonably suspect that advertising around Northwoods was calculated to pre-condition the protest movement on September 11th to the Inside Job thesis involving the Pentagon. Some even suspect that the document is a fake. [ 20 ] After all, Robert McNamara, to whom it was intended, said not to have ” absolutely no memory [ 21 ].” If it is listed on the website of the National Security Archive Project of George Washington University [ 22 ], it is only, it seems, because Bamford or Hayden provided them with a copy. I personally believe that this Northwoods operation project, now universally known in the 9/11 Truth movement, never existed. Making false secret archives is an easy practice and certainly more common than is believed in the information war; it is relatively low risk, because who will believe the one who will deny the authenticity of the leaked document? It should be noted that Bermas and Avery, who are so big of an operation that, in any case, has never been put into practice, do not breathe a word about the attack on the USS Liberty , which had place, and treat any person evoking the Israeli track as anti-Semitic.
To summarize, if you are credulous, you believe that airliners have built into the Twin Towers, and you are accusing Al Qaeda. If you are skeptical, you look closely at these planes (with In Plane Site ), and you see military planes: you accuse the US government and you shout Inside Job . In both cases, you got fooled. The truth is elsewhere, beneath these two false banners. Discovering it takes you into the unfathomable mysteries of mind manipulation, and you are not sure of coming back from it.
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Laurent Guyénot was on Kevin Barrett’s radio show recently discussing his book, 9/11 and Northwoods.
https://kevinbarrett.heresycentral.com/2018/06/ruhe/
https://www.patreon.com/posts/19274954
MP3 : Northwooods discussion begins at 13:13
https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/patreon-posts/uJAiRUM1sgQReWy3g2WdiOYTKcgvJH7sKLIY_xMK05Y0k19cgF1A-YPp34n4ZTR7.mp3
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The “Operation Northwooods document” is here :
Pentagon Proposed Pretexts for Cuba Invasion in 1962
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20010430/
In his new exposé of the National Security Agency entitled Body of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION NORTHWOODS. This document, titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba” was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals - part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose - included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake “Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington,” including “sink[ing] a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated),” faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a “Remember the Maine” incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself writes that Operation Northwoods “may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government.”

Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba [includes cover memoranda], March 13, 1962, TOP SECRET, 15 pp.
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
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I was taken in by the Operation Northwoods psyop too, imo, most of the 9/11 truth movement was too.
I may not be recalling this accurately and cannnot find a reference atm, but, IIRC, in response to the 9/11 truther claims, a UK journalist went to the US archives to check on the Northwooods document. He reported that it was indeed “true”. I thought it was Duncan Campbell ?
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“This document, titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba” was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. ”
The Nazi’s appointed Joseph Goebbels as Reich Minister for Propaganda on 13 March 1933
13 March 1933 is the same day that the “Anne Frank” narrative begins …
MG

flaxgirl
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No disrespect King Kong but your sister could be a disinformation agent who keeps her work very private and so, of course, could you. Now that I’ve woken up to the propaganda that is directed at the truthers what you say seems to be in that format. It reads a bit like a checklist: the money! the previous false flags! the explosions! the buildings came down by controlled demolition (I’m a civil engineer)! BUT the people really died – my sister was there. Can you say anything convincing to show that you aren’t a disinformation agent?

King Kong
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King Kong

Please go and FO. I know what my sister saw and the trauma she went through following it. Your postulations about her being a foreign agent are so insane I would do you bodily harm if I met you. I n fact it makes me angry.
You are a conspiracy nut, that does nothi g to resolve this case (or any other) your comments are general trope idiotic, lunatic and in all deference of facts.
I have pictures of this person who died, I still at x-mas speak with his parents. They lost a son and their one link is me and my sister.
Go and die under a bridge.
I am angry.

Frankly Speaking
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Frankly Speaking

Yeh, we know, the Earth is flat too.
911 certainly happened, there is NO doubt, at least in any healthy brain. The genuine questions are, who did it, why, and how exactly.

Frankly Speaking
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Frankly Speaking

Thousands of architects and engineers can’t be wrong. No other proof required.

Ian Sheehy
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Ian Sheehy

I said the shiz about architects and engineers before yet you got 7 thumbs and I got 2! Haha. Read shiz mo fo’s. I mean peace. Love all you guys. I just need insecure praise!

vexarb
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Frankly speaking, people trained in the “hard sciences” who have to deal with objective reality are less likely to be wrong about the causes of failure of structures than journalists, politicians, lawyers and other craftsmen whose main tool is words. But what drives A&Efor911Truth is more important than their professional discipline; they are driven by respect for the truth — the same drive that motivates the people who set up Off-G, and most of the people who write here. Remember that the official 911 Commission contained some “hard science” experts — but it was chaired by a top politician from the Bush regime, who probably cowed them into submitting that ridiculous document; even so, many professionals resigned from the Committee in disagreement — but their reasons for disagreement with the regime line were gagged by Official Secrets with heavy penalties for disclosure.
“The first casualty in War is Truth” — and 911 was the Gulf of Tonkin false flag for Uncle $cam’s war against the remaining countries in the MENA who had not submitted to the AZC; countries whose banks and whose gold reserves were not yet owned by Rothschild, whose hydrocarbon and water reserves belonged to the state and not to Rothschild-affiliated global companies like BP / Enron / Shell. The people at the top of those companies, and the politicians whom they bribe, value Money above Truth, above Humanity. The vast herd of Humanity is like other vast herds which roam the planet — preoccupied with finding food, sex, shelter for their brood, and generally staying alive. That leaves a small, statistically almost invisible, handful of humans who rejoice in their God given gift of Reason, and respect Truth because the Truth is their God (even if they are atheists). Such are the Engineers and Architects for 911 Truth — and their word is backed by the Laws of Nature.

PSJ
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PSJ

I hope people who say no one died on 9/11 will watch this and consider other similar testimonies and re-think.

flaxgirl
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There is strong evidence to suggest that no one died on the day or, at least, almost no one, assuming no one died accidentally or a very small number were targeted. Certainly, the number who’ve died since whether it be from invasion of the Middle East, post-service suicide, suicide or other death due to the evil in general that 9/11 has led to, is vast, but that does not mean no one died on the day and that, in fact, just like all the other drills on 9/11 the collapses of the buildings and the alleged plane crash into the Pentagon were a form of drill, too.
http://septemberclues.info/vicsims.shtml
Although I was exposed to the material suggesting no one died awhile ago, I simply glossed over it, thinking that there was clear evidence that people had died from seeming whistleblower-people such as Bob McIlvaine, the Jersey Widows, April Gallop, Richard Grove and several others but just in the last week or so it’s hit me that these people must all be actors/disinformation agents. It’s ironic. There I am thinking the rest of the population is so indoctrinated by propaganda and here I am, four years on from being woken up to 9/11 and only just realising that they had propaganda developed aimed purely at the truthers – specially for us – nice of them, no? The perps knew that people would catch on to the Emperor’s New Clothes events of WTC-7’s collapse and planes melting into buildings. Of course, a certain number would do that – so they were at the ready with all kinds of things to misdirect us:
—the PNAC document of 2000 stating that what was needed for America to dominate much of humanity and the world’s resources was “some catastrophic and catalysing event – like a new Pearl Harbor”. I mean, as if they’re going to publish a document like that a year before they commit the act unless they have a specific agenda. No hint, of course, of documentation relating to 9/11 operations has ever seen the light of day.
—information to make us believe that certain groups of people were wanted rid of by the perps, for example, the auditors who’d just moved into the Pentagon.
—Bob McIlvaine and the “Jersey widows” (who so cleverly unseated Kissinger as the director by so pertinently questioning him about the Bin Laden family being a client) agitating so desperately for a commission where all their questions went unanswered.
—I just saw Mark’s comment below about Janette’s name. Yes, I believe it’s quite possible that some, if not all, of the agonising deaths made public are fabricated but I would have thought with the amount of dust that occurred on 9/11 some people really would be dying from it. I wonder if the $1 billion quote to remove asbestos from the twin towers was fabricated. What do you think?
I swallowed it all hook, line and sinker. So clever … or we’re all very stoopid.

vexarb
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@FlaxGirl. Three of your questions could readily be answered — but only if we could rely on the honesty of professionals who represent public services for the U$ regime. The ridiculous evidence-free assertions in the official 911 report, and in similar post-911 govt publications show that govt agencies in the West have succumbed to political intimidation by criminal regimes (e.g. reports on the Skripal case fabricated by the Ulic4K regime).
An honest public service would tell you:
1. How many people on 911 said they were going to the WTC and never returned.
2. Whether the WTC building was really declared a public danger because it had been flame-proofed with asbestos.
3. Whether the clouds of white dust seen exploding from the WTC buildings carried enough asbestos into the air of Manhattan to cause a significant rise in the epidemiological incidence of an asbestos-related Lung disease (namely, Pleural Mesothelioma) during the past 17 years and for the next 80 years.
The wells of truth have been poisened, and the Western World is sick.

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

vexarb : “The ridiculous evidence-free assertions in the official 911 report”
The “9/11 Commission Report”
Philip Zelikow was the executive director of the 9/11 Commission.
Philip Zelikow, a self-described expert in “the creation and maintenance of public myths,” wrote the 9/11 Commission Report in chapter outline before the Commission even convened.
Zelikow, architect of the Bush Doctrine of framing criminal wars of aggression as “pre-emptive wars,” is the co-author of an astonishingly precognitive 1998 Foreign Affairs article speculating about the likely political and cultural consequences of a massive Pearl Harbor style event such as the destruction of the World Trade Center – a catastrophe that, he said, would split time into a dimly-remembered “before” and an Orwellian “after.”
https://alethonews.com/2016/04/21/911-coverup-czar-zelikow-doesnt-know-what-the-real-story-is/
The Corbett Report : 9/11 Suspects: Philip Zelikow
https://www.corbettreport.com/911-suspects-philip-zelikow/
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The 9/11 Commission report’s main protangonist, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, ‘I was responsible for 9/11, from A to Z’, and much more besides, is alleged to be the chap in Guantanamo who is alleged to have been “waterboarded 183 times”.
183 = 3x 61 = 3x P( 18 ) = P( 6+6+6 ) + P( 6+6+6 ) + P( 6+6+6 ) >666 666 666
“Waterboarded 183 times” is a Kabbalistic lie …
It had to be, because KSM is also a Kabbalistic lie …
There is, reportedly, some doubt that the person reportedly lifted from the house in Rawalpindi, reportedly on 1 March 2003 is in fact KSM, whomever he might be …
This reported “snag” represents the classic tactic of providing the “conspiracy community” with some “meat on the bone”, in which to sink their alleged investigative teeth while being wholly misdirected …
The magician, through misdirection, gets his audience to concentrate on the wrong hand, while lifting their wallet with the other …
“KSM’s” reported arrest on 1 March 2003 is an INClusive :
= 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days
since Adolf Hitler became Reich Chancellor on 30 January 1933 …
“Omar Saeed Sheikh” aka “Mustafa Ahmed al-Hisawi” was also reportedly, arrested on 1 March 2003.
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August 2004 : The UK’s Operation RHYME – The “Smoke Detector Dirty Bomb”, Gas Limos Project aka 2004 financial buildings plot.
The Kabbalistic, “9/11 Commission Report”, contains references to one “Issa al Britani.”
These “Issa al Britani” references were subsequently converted into a “real” UK terrorism plot, Operation Rhyme, allegedly Dhiren Barot’s dastardly plan to blow up London tube & Thames river tunnels with limousines loaded with gas bottles and to let off a “dirty bomb” manufactured from 10,000 smoke dectectors and to blow up financial buildings on Wall Street …
Operation RHYME : “Neither Rhyme nor Reason” from Shakespear’s A Comedy of Errors ?
… a play about, mistaken identity, puns and word play …
Not so much of a comedy for Dhiren Barot, but was he, unwittingly, playing the role of Dromio and the script attributed to the chap who is alleged to be KSM, being read for the false creation of Antipholus ?
Dhiren Barot vis Esa al-Hindi vis the alleged confessions from the chap who is alleged to be KSM, who has alleged that a chap called al-Britani was sent to case financial buildings on the US east coast ?
“The confused Dromio, sure that he hasn’t said what Antipholus thinks he said, finds “neither rhyme nor reason” in the accusation—that is, neither order nor inherent sense.
The confusion, though neither knows it, is due to the existence of twin Antipholuses and Dromios;
Farcical episodes of mistaken identity account for the entire plot of the play. ”
becomes:
“The confused Dhiren Barot, sure that he hasn’t done what KSM says he has done, and sure that he is not the al-Britani that the false KSM says he is, finds “neither rhyme nor reason” in the accusation – that is, neither order nor inherent sense.
The confusion, though neither knows of the other, is due to the creation of a false KSM and a false al-Britani.”
A deliberately constructed script of two false identities, accounts for the entire Operation Rhyme plot.
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The 9/11 Commission’s staff reports are similarly constructed and provide many more nodes to the “9/11 Hijackers” narrative.
Monograph on 9/11 and Terrorist Travel
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/staff_statements/index.htm
That the US and the entire world was hijacked on 9/11 is not in doubt.
The claim that 19 Muslims armed only with “box cutters” hijacked four passenger airliners on 9/11 and caused the “collapse” of the NYC buildings, is demonstrably false.
Including the alleged 20th hijacker, Zacarias Moussaoui, the alleged 1+19 9/11 hijackers have all been selected for their roles, based on their real or otherwise birth dates.
The majority of the alleged, “9/11 hijackers”, are Kabbalistcially linked to prominent Nazis, thus forming the basis for the perennial “complaint”, the Nazi WW2 Holocaust narrative…
“Patsy perps” are always selected for their roles using the Kabbalistic method.
It is always thus, in the faux terrorism scripts, the contrived “shootings” etc., far more than most would ever magine …
MG

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

“9/11 Hijackers narrative” : “Salem al Hazmi and Abdulaziz al Omari arrived in NYC” : Larry Silverstein
WTC owner Silverstein Properties, Larry “Pull it” Silverstein was born on 30 May 1931
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The 9/11 Commission’s staff reports are similarly constructed and provide many more nodes to the “9/11 Hijackers” narrative.
Monograph on 9/11 and Terrorist Travel
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/staff_statements/index.htm
The Muscle Hijackers
PDF Pages 8 to 9
In late April 2001, the muscle hijackers started arriving in the United States, specifically in Florida, Washington, DC, and New York. They traveled mostly in pairs and were assisted upon arrival by Atta and Shehhi in Florida or Hazmi and Hanjour in DC and New York. The final pair, Salem al Hazmi and Abdulaziz al Omari, arrived New York on June 29
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From Larry Silverstein born on 30 May 1931
to “9/11 Hijackers narrative” : Salem al Hazmi and Abdulaziz al Omari arrived in NYC on 29 June 2001 is :
INClusive ISUAF =
= 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days
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Note : The date calculator cannot show INClusive date arithmetic where more than one date component is used, so two URL’s are required :
URL1 : https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=30&m1=5&y1=1931&type=add&ay=&am=&aw=666&ad=666&rec=
URL2 : https://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?d1=30&m1=12&y1=1945&d2=29&m2=6&y2=2001&ti=on
ISUAF = If Smaller Units Added First
MG

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

KSM : Khalid Shaikh / Sheikh Mohammed : PNAC : Donald Kagan
PNAC’s Donald Kagan was born on 1st May 1932
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June 4, 2002 : Khalid Shaikh Mohammed Is Publicly Identified as 9/11 Mastermind
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a060402khalidshaikh#a060402khalidshaikh
The photo of Mohammed on the right has been flipped to better compare it. [ Source: FBI ]
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (KSM) is publicly identified as the “mastermind” behind the 9/11 attacks.
He is believed to have arranged the logistics while on the run in Germany, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. In 1996, he had been secretly indicted in the US for his role in Operation Bojinka ( see January 6, 1995 ), and the US began offering a $2 million reward for his capture in 1998 ( see January 8, 1998 ), which increased to $25 million in December 2001.
An international warrant for his arrest was issued in November 2000 ( see November 17, 2000 ).
[ Associated Press, 6/4/2002; New York Times, 6/5/2002 ]
According to the New York Times, “In recent months, American counterintelligence officials have identified a small group of other al-Qaeda lieutenants as the crucial figures behind the Sept. 11 attacks” aside from KSM.
They include :
Mohammed Atef ( who is already deceased )
Abu Zubaida
and Ayman al-Zawahiri. [ New York Times, 6/5/2002 ]
There are conflicting accounts of how much US investigators knew about KSM before 9/11.
He is Pakistani, although he was born and raised in Kuwait. [ CBS News, 6/5/2002 ]
He is an uncle of Ramzi Yousef, the bomber of the World Trade Center in 1993. [ New York Times, 6/5/2002 ]
In April 2002, captured al-Qaeda leader Abu Zubaida confessed that KSM was the 9/11 mastermind ( see April 2002 ).
It is not known how much US intelligence knew about KSM’s link to the 9/11 attacks prior that, although at least some was known see ( December 2001 )).
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From PNAC’s Donald Kagan born on 1 May 1932
to KSM “identified as The 9/11 Mastermind” on 4 June 2002 is :
INTerval =
= 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days
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Mark Gobell
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KSM : Khalid Shaikh / Sheikh Mohammed : PNAC : Frank Carlucci
When not referencing the self-evident Nazis, the narrative’s Kabbalism points elsewhere …
PNAC’s Frank Carlucci was born on 18 October 1930
Reportedly, on 17 November 2000, the US authorities issued an international arrest warrant for the narrative’s nominated “9/11 mastermind”, KSM …
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a111700ksmwarrant#a111700ksmwarrant
INClusive =
= 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days
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Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

The majority of the alleged, “9/11 hijackers narrative”, is Kabbalistcially linked to prominent Nazis, thus forming the basis for the perennial “complaint”, the Nazi WW2 Holocaust narrative…
9/11 Hijackers Martyrdom Video : Nazi : “Final Solution” Reinhard Heydrich : John McCain : Mossad
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1062976704#post1062976704
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Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

There are various spellings of Janette MacKinlay’s name : Janette McKinley, Jeanette Mckinley, Janet McKinley etc etc
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth : In Honor of 9/11 Survivor Janette MacKinlay
http://www1.ae911truth.org/faqs/422-in-honor-of-911-survivor-janette-mackinlay.html
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Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

President GHW Bush : “The time has come to put an end to Arab-Israeli conflict.”
GHW Bush, WTC-1993 and 9/11
9/11 – an attack on Christendom ?
https://off-guardian.org/2018/06/07/consensus-reality-has-outlived-its-usefulness/comment-page-1/#comment-123744
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Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

An attack on Christianity-by Talmudic Judaism?

Grafter
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Grafter

Nothing but total disgust for the American nation sleepwalking through their own history. Oblivious as to the criminal behaviour of their own government. A cancer on this small planet and those who endorse their actions are no better.

Harry Stotle
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Harry Stotle

Certainly no tradition or appetite across the US MSM to examine the behaviour of their rulers.
Some would still be in denial even if photos were produced of Cheyne, Rumsfeld and Bush planting nano-thermite at the WTC.
Monbiot and Co prop up the 2 planes 3 towers myth this side of the pond.