9/11 – A Firefighter’s Perspective

Greg Bacon

Here we are, at the 17th anniversary of the event which shocked America–and most of the world–that was protected by massive lies still in use today. I am going to use two examples to show the readers why the official 9/11 story is a fraud and massive psyops campaign to give the USA an excuse to illegally invade nations, kill millions, wound millions more, create untold misery and fear for innocent people, at the same time knocking off predominantly Islamic states that Israel wanted destroyed and which would make Wall Street & defense contractors a ‘killing’ off the killings. And to use the 9/11 lies to justify an ever-growing police state both in the USA and most of the West, especially England.

And like the Skripal False Flag, anytime a lie gets exposed, the liars double-down and lie some more or tell a new, more confusing lie.

But first, will give you some of my background, to show you that I know a little of what I am about to say, due to my firefighting experience and extensive training in that field.

Between my start with the local county volunteer Fire Department, then getting hired as a career firefighter in a Midwest medium-size college town I accumulated almost 23 years of firefighting experience, fighting fires as a firefighter; a step-up Engineer–the one who drives the fire apparatus and is responsible for manning the fire engine’s pump panel when pumping water to the crews fighting the fire(s). Also as an Acting Lieutenant, Lieutenant and even twice as Incident Manager, the one who stays on the exterior of the structure fire and manages the various crews fighting the fire.

In addition to that, our Fire Department was dedicated to weekly training of personnel at our Fire Training Academy, where we honed our skills in class lectures and also by doing training evolution’s on the Academy’s grounds, which included a large concrete and steel burn building, where we would set fires in 50 gallon drums, close the steel window shutters, let the fire and heat build up, then attack the fire as if it was the real deal.

There was also a five-story concrete and steel tower, which was used to practice getting hose lines up stairwells and bringing victims down the same. There was also in-house training, where the station officer would create, then teach a class on not only firefighting, but all aspects of emergency work. Some times we’d pair up with another fire company, and go to the Training Academy to hone our skills.

Also, I have over 400 hours of college-level firefighting credits–in a variety of subjects dealing with emergencies, like proper Hazmat (Hazardous Material) response; extricating victims from wrecked vehicles; medical emergency training; Fire Officer training and of course, firefighting. These credits were thru the State University’s Fire Academy, that held Winter and Summer Fire School classes.

I write this not to brag, but to give credence to my original point; the official 9/11 story is filled with lies, fabrications, distortions, half-truths and propaganda.

Here’s two examples proving that:

ONE:- A shocked America was told that due to the passenger jets hitting WTC 1 & 2, the fuel exploding and resulting structure fire was the cause of both Towers collapsing, using the firefighting term, ‘pancake collapse.’ That term comes from the end result, after the building collapses, there will be a number of floors that fell on top of each other, looking somewhat like a serving of pancakes, hence the term pancake collapse.

Here’s a picture of one of the’ ‘Twins’ collapsing, spewing out clouds that look more like a volcano’s pyroclastic flow, which is the bottom picture so you can see the similarities.

There were 2,753 victims at the WTC attack, and of those, 1,642 have been positively ID’d, one very recently using advanced DNA techniques. That leaves over 1,000 that have NOT been identified.

Some of the WTC dead readily ID’d were in the Lobby and lower levels of 1 & 2, the rest thru bone fragments, most less that 1/16 of an inch long, but enough for DNA testing. DNA testing was used to ID 89% of those body parts found that they were able to match up with relatives DNA.

Some of these bones bits were found on the roofs of nearby skyscrapers. Pretty amazing feat for a simple building collapse to have enough energy to blast a tiny bone hundreds of feet thru the air, wouldn’t you say?

Human bones–especially the large ones, the femur and pelvic bones, are very resilient and tough. Modern crematoriums can’t even completely incinerate some human bones:

Temperatures within the chamber often reach the 1800°F – 2000°F range. It generally takes about 1-1/2 to 2 hours for a body to be completely reduced to just the bone fragments by cremation. Even at the high heat, bone fragments too large to fit in the urn are pulverized mechanically.”

So what kind of energy was needed to obliterate a human body into hundreds of pieces? Not a pancake collapse, that’s for sure. But we still have over 1,000 WTC victims that have NOT been ID’d, because they haven’t been able to find any DNA to test.

Again, what kind of energy does it take to vaporize a human body. Not the energy generated by a structure fire and building collapse.

TWO:- Minute bone fragments and vaporized bodies weren’t the only oddities from the official story line. When the South Tower collapsed–more like exploded–it ejected a steel beam weighing about 20 tons, sent it flying thru the air over 350 feet, and still had enough energy left over to impale itself in the Deutsche Bank building.

Here’s that steel beam, protruding from the bank. Again, a simple structure fire and building collapse doesn’t generate enough energy to fling a 20 ton steel beam thru the air like it was a 2×4 piece of wood.

Or as Scientists for 9/11 Truth state:

One good place to begin is this video of the North Tower of the World Trade Center (WTC1). Does it look like a building collapsing under its own weight? Or does it look like a descending series of explosions, progressing at about the same rate as the falling debris? Jet planes are fueled with kerosene, which is not a high explosive and cannot sever steel or pulverize concrete.”

These are only two of a slew of factors that expose the US government LIES about 9/11, which they used to go on a murderous spree, first to Afghanistan, which was NO threat to the USA, had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, but which needed invading so a certain ‘Deep State’ outfit that has been around since 1947, could occupy parts of that nation, and build bases from which the Pentagon can threaten Iran, Russia and China. And to plant poppy fields in record numbers, with the amount of opium and heroin produced each year breaking the previous year’s record. Poppy fields that are guarded by US troops, ensuring that the fields stay safe so hundreds of billions of dollars of opium and heroin can be extracted and sold each year, with some-or a lot – of that filthy lucre being laundered by those ‘Too Big to Fail’ Wall Street banks.

From there it was on to Iraq, another nation that had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and was NO threat to America, but which Israel wanted destroyed as part of Oded Yinon’s “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties.”

A once prosperous ME state was bombed nearly back to the Stone Age, effectively neutering Iraq by letting, if not encouraging, religious divisions to break Iraq into several mini-states. Oh, did I mention that Iraq’s gold reserves went missing after the USA invaded?

From there it was onto Libya, busting up what was once one of the most prosperous African states and turning it – like Iraq – into a couple of mini-states, with warring factions fighting over the oil. Libya’s gold also magically vanished after western troops got in-country.

Then onto Syria, using a ‘rat line’ to ship Libyan weapons and terrorists to Turkey, Jordan, Israel and Iraq, so they could be trained and enough gathered so the USA, KSA, England and Israel could send their terrorist buds into Syria, using three fronts, with the USAF supplying transport of terrorists and weapons, and bombing the Syrian Army, while our MSM lied thru their teeth, saying they were bombing ISIS or DAESH or IS or al Nusra or al Sham or…take your pick.

If not for the intervention of Russia, Syria would now be another failed state, busted into pieces, with Israel possibly now having a legit claim to the land they stole from Syria in 1967, the oil and water rich Golan Heights.

Now the lies are being recycled again, this time the MSM and White House have put Iran in it’s psychotic gun sights, even though they had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and are NO threat to the USA, but which Israel wants destroyed so they can be the only ME power, both financially and militarily.

If we let those blood-thirsty WH maniacs attack Iran, the world’s economy will probably collapse, since very little oil will be shipped out of the Persian Gulf. If you think the 2008 MBS fraud that set off that recession was bad-and it was-attacking Iran would be an even bigger economic nightmare.

I am asking those that are still with me to find their voice and be like that Howard Beale news anchor character in the movie “NETWORK” that would standup during his newscast and shout, “I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!”

That’s what we need to do regarding the 9/11 LIES. We need to expose the truth or forever resign ourselves and offspring to a life of poverty, tyranny, terror attacks, misery and a police state that will smother our inner light.

I thank you the reader, for your precious time and OffGuardian for being gutsy enough to print this blog. For as we all know, telling the truth can get one in a lot more trouble than telling lies.


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wardropper
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Just a quick thank you for all concerned here in a very useful discussion.
There is certainly disagreement on how to interpret all kinds of evidence, but valid points are made on all sides, and although the material put forward can add to a confused picture, a little perseverance can put it all in its rightful place.
It’s always good to know how your opponents think in any case.

Thomas Prentice
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Thomas Prentice

This is insufferable, evidence-free speculation, but I am to ca 1970 in the Mossad /Shin Bet / IDF book “Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations” by Ronen Bergman and guess who was taking down multi-story buildings by this time? Not skyscrapers, mind you, but ten or twelve story buildings in cities.

harry stotle
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harry stotle

I see no chance of a legal redress for 9/11 because in effect we are relying on the perpetrators to be their own judges.

Ask yourself this – how many war crimes have been committed by the US since Hiroshima, then ask how many indictments have arisen.

On the face of it we being asked to believe that the US is not guilty of anything while in Britain Blair is portrayed in the Guardian as a kind of elder statesmen.

Rhisiart Gwilym
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Rhisiart Gwilym

Perhaps Greg could give a few basic lessons in physical reality to ‘Writerman’ Roddis, to bring him up to speed – finally. Respect as ever, Greg, from this long-time supporter of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Keep sluggin’ buddy!

Jimmy Solomon
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First, kudos to OffGuardian for bringing up 9/11. Secondly, speaking of missing gold, there were supposedly vaults of gold beneath the twin Towers. (I say supposedly because I’m not a detail person but I read it somewhere.) In a prior OG article, the David Ray Griffin book review, one of the reviewers wondered why we needed a 7/11 as an excuse to invade the ME, why not just invade? That’s a good point but one I think can be answered by watching the movie Ocean’s 11. I think the unofficial version of 9/11 is a story about an elaborately planned… Read more »

vexarb
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Here’s one for FlaxGirl from this very brave fireman: “There were 2,753 victims at the WTC attack, and of those, 1,642 have been positively ID’d, one very recently using advanced DNA techniques. That leaves over 1,000 that have NOT been identified.”

flaxgirl
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vexarb, what is the source of this positive ID’ing? Are you kidding me? They’re just keeping the lies going with the positive ID’ing bullshit. I know it took me four years of study to get there but now I’m here it’s just so beyond obvious that 9/11 was a hoax just like so many other “terror” events. I thought it was different from the others because I was foolish in swallowing the disinformation agents but when I finally recognised them the penny dropped big time. Below is a link to my 10-point Occam’s Razor exercise on the 3,000 dead and… Read more »

vexarb
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A tale of Lucky Larry and Poor John. Pacificnorthwest BTL SyrPer yesterday: “On this day 17 years ago the Mossad, its traitorous PNAC allies and other crime families (the Bush & Silverstein crime families in particular) murdered more than 3000 New Yorkers. Israelis however, who worked in the World Trade Center were warned by the Mossad to not go to work that day. So, Lucky Larry Silverstein skipped breakfast with family at the top of the world trade centers — the first occasion he did so after his very recent purchase of the world trade center. Never forget this mass… Read more »

Antonyl
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Antonyl

Did Muslim fanatics do any terrorism at all by themselves Vexarb? Was it all Israelis dressed up as Islamists?

vexarb
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Antonyl, to date only Israelis have been caught in flagrante (and released pronto). But there must be at least a thousand non-Israeli (or dual-citizen U$-Israeli) criminals at large; starting with George Bush Sr & Jr, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Mayor Giuliani and the chairman of the official Report. The only Arab suspects I heard of were: head of Saudi secret service, a man nicknamed “Bush” for his pallyness with the Bush crime family; and the Bin Laden family who were guests at the Bush ranch the night before 911. I need not remind you that Saudi Arabia is… Read more »

flaxgirl
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vexarb, now that I know better I think the dancing Israelis were truther-targeted propaganda over which the perps would have had a great laugh. I mean, seriously. What needs to be understood: the perps know the truth is out there but they also know that only a small percentage will pay attention. This is why they have no problem pushing out “their version” of the truth along with lies so that they can propagandise both truthers and believers alike. They push out the “truth” all the better to control information. They use the “truth” to propagandise the truthers to believe… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Perhaps John O’Neill was one of the select few … or perhaps he’s living it up on a desert island. Who the hell knows?

vexarb
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Flaxgirl, perhaps his friends and relations know more than you do? As do the F&R of the 1,600 people who were due to be in the WTC that mornyng and whose DNA was subsequently identified from bone fragments. A new way to get rid of corporeal evidence: vaporize the bodies with nanothermite and presto! Nihil corpus delicti (no bodies from the crime). John P. O’Neill, US Counter Terrorism expert, died NYC 11Sept2001. RIP. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing By the way, I do appreciate your sceptical querying elsewhere — recently re probable ‘posed’ position of dead woman in Gladio’s Bologna False Flag. But when… Read more »

flaxgirl
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vexarb, you are so very much more knowledgeable than I am. I’m essentially a know-nothing who cottoned onto false flags after watching JFK to 9/11 Everything is a Rich Man’s Trick. However, I think from watching certain YouTube videos I’ve gotten a sense of the power elite and how they operate that people who have a much wider knowledge of history and politics don’t necessarily have. Of course, I still know very little about the power elite myself but enough to understand a little bit better how they operate – at least, in relation to some of their methods.

vexarb
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Flaxgirl, the most knowledgeable person on this thread is Greg Bacon, and I believe his figures. Contact Greg re where to get names and addresses of the bereaved. Then spend your $5000 on a trip to interview as many of them as you can. By talking to real people you will see the real enormity of this crime. Yes, the criminal regime who were prepared to kill millions of Middle Easterners for money were also prepared to sacrifice a couple of thousand of their own US civilians on 911 — and a few thousand US military personnel KIA later.

flaxgirl
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vexarb, these events are done right in our faces. I’ve done an 10 point Occam’s Razor exercise. Have you read it? Can you not see the impossibility of them killing the 3,000 and injuring the 6,000? Can you not see that it wouldn’t be part of their MO? Any purported evidence of the 3,000 dead and 6,000 injured is unconvincing. I assert that if an event covered by the media is claimed to have killed 3,000 and injured 6,000, convincing evidence of these claims should be present. It would be an impossibility for these two occurrences to be real if… Read more »

flaxgirl
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vexarb, I only judge by the evidence … and lack of. It’s the same for Bologna as for 9/11 … and for Sandy Hook, Manchester, Westminster, Berlin Truck, Nice, etc. If 3,000 people died and 6,000 were injured I want more than the claim of DNA tests. Are you kidding me? On my webpage there are 14 pictures of alleged injured people at 9/11 that are obviously images of people who are participating in a drill. They do not match “injured from building collapse” event. They do not match in any shape or form. When what I’m shown doesn’t match… Read more »

BigMamma
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BigMamma

Are you trying to say that the buildings were pretty much empty on the day of the attack? That’s what it would take for there to be no injuries or deaths… I’m pretty sure the fire crews would have noticed if the buildings had been empty and i’m sure the vast majority of people working in the building would in no way go along with a scenario such as you’re suggesting, and we would have heard from at least a few firefighters if somebody had tried to coerce them into such a mass scale hoax. These are men and women… Read more »

flaxgirl
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No the buildings were not empty. The plane crash was faked, of course, so they would have just let off a couple of small bombs on empty floors to create the damage or something along those lines and then after the “plane crash” they would have evacuated ALL the people from the building instead of just some. Easy! I’m afraid some of the fire crews would have had to be involved in some way. 343 of the 3,000 people who allegedly died were firefighters and that is bogus. Also, the Firefighters for 9/11 Truth page is extremely muted compared to… Read more »

flaxgirl
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No I don’t. I say that there is zero compelling evidence of any of the 3,000 deaths while there is at least one example of a photo of an alleged jumper that clearly looks faked. Similarly, there is zero compelling evidence of any of the 6,000 alleged to be injured while there are 14 photos in my exercise that show people who obviously are participating in a drill. However, that isn’t to say no one died. These events may well be used to bump off a few inconvenient people – I have no idea – or people may have even… Read more »

flaxgirl
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And just to add – everything else was a lie: the terrorists, the people on the planes, the planes themselves, the buildings coming down by fire – why is it so shocking to think that a big fat lie was told about the people dying? It was a PSYOP – in psyops they want you to believe things, they’re not interested in the reality of them – for 9/11 they really did want the buildings down but they didn’t care about any other reality of the operation. Why are people who recognise that the buildings came down by controlled demolition… Read more »

MoriartysLeftSock
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MoriartysLeftSock

@flaxgirl, have you not read about the numerous petitions by 9/11families? There’s a current one demanding a new inquiry.

flaxgirl
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These people are disinformation agents. That’s why it took me four years to figure it out. I believed all the alleged family members and others were real. They’re hired. And we have proof of it in the strangely doctored photos of Bobby McIlvaine. See my Occam’s Razor exercise, Point 5.

flaxgirl
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detroit57
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I wonder, were any of the building elevators out of service for maintenance that day before the impacts? If so that would be a potential avenue to move explosives up from the garage to floors below the aircraft crash fire floors. Did all the elevators have drive units at the top of the building or were elevators serving lower floors operated from drive units located on intermediate floors below the fire floors? It is obvious from replaying the collapse of the North Tower that those lower floor “squibs” were off-timing by probably a second or more. Perhaps debris came down… Read more »

michaelantonyblog
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Detroit57,your point about an airliner not being strong enough to rip through the steel girders of a skyscraper ignores the fact that these were “modified” airliners being used as drones — some of the 33 new 757 airliners that Dov Zakheim, Pentagon comptroller, bought for the air force to modify into refuelling tankers. They could have been covered with hardened steel to turn them into armour piercing weapons. I think the generally accepted hypothesis is that the real airliners were landed by remote control override (another Dov Zackheim contribution, since his company SPC specialized in this) at an airbase and… Read more »

michaelantonyblog
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Sorry, that should have been 767 airliners that Dov Zakheim bought the air force, not 757.

Jo
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Jo

Shaped charges for demolition are explosive charges that propel just angled thin copper relatively…yes copper…through steel beams. So it can be a soft material. There was a documentary on tv that claims the alumium of the aircraft reached a sufficiently high temperature to burn through the steel. Just saying.

HardEvidence
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HardEvidence

NIST specifically stated the temperatures of the fires was not hot enough to melt steel. The idea the aluminum could somehow super-heat while exposed to these fires is completely unscientific and has never been suggested by anyone basically competent in metallurgy or physics

Antonyl
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Antonyl

Most suspicious for me:
1) how 4 huge planes can go undetected over continental USA in 2001 just after the end of the Cold War.
2) the aftermath report with all the strike outs and secrecy – very fishy.
3) the cooperation of Al Qaida before in Afghanistan and now again in Syria with the CIA.
4) the Saudis being allowed to fly out of the US while Americans were grounded just after 9/11.

vierotchka
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Also, it was known long before 9/11 that there are trillions’ worth of largely untapped natural resources in Afghanistan, including a huge amount of natural gas, a large amount of oil, lots of gold, precious and semi-precious gems, other metals, and especially rare metals and rare earths. This is why the US’s powers that be are hanging on to Afghanistan. It is not just military bases (they have built some) and poppy fields used for opium and other opiates. Already in 1971-1972 when I was living in Kabul, I heard about the oil and the huge natural gas reserves from… Read more »

vierotchka
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I saw it live and immediately noticed the squibs, I instantly understood that it was a controlled demolition from top down (had it been from bottom up, the towers would have collapsed sideways onto a large number of nearby buildings). I immediately realized that it was a false-flag operation, and when I explained it to friends and family along with other details – most of the kerosene exploded outside of the building, and burning kerosene is not hot enough to even weaken steel, if it were, no airplanes and jets could’nt possibly fly. Also, had there been enough heat to… Read more »

Fair dinkum.
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Fair dinkum.

That was then, this is now.
Seventeen years of struggle with almost zero acknowledgement by the psychopaths who rule.
The facade of democracy must be undermined by anti consumerism, BDS, demonstrations and networking between those seeing justice.
Nothing else works.

rtj1211
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There are only two theories which remain scientifically feasible to me and one of those is left feasible at present due to my technical inability to critically evaluate claims of 21st century ‘micro-nukes’. The two theories may be combinable. 1) Nano-thermite driven demolition. 2) Destruction using a focused micro-nuclear device housed in the basement car park, somehow designed to operate its destructive energy in a cylindrical-not spherical manner. The first creates explosive conditions hot enough to sever solid steel structures and is consistent with first responders reporting explosive noises consistent with controlled demolition. Does it produce the effects necessary to… Read more »

Nick Bell
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Nick Bell

Are you kidding? The greatest benefactors would be those who make up the Military-Industrial complex – the armament manufacturers who, I believe, are primarily American, and yes, from the UK, and others in Europe too!

vierotchka
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Jerry Alatalo
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May the good man Greg Bacon, his family and friends live healthy, happy and blessed lives.

“When the South Tower collapsed–more like exploded–it ejected a steel beam weighing about 20 tons, sent it flying thru the air over 350 feet, and still had enough energy left over to impale itself in the Deutsche Bank building.”

Edward Crowe
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Edward Crowe

WTC7’s plane was diverted into a field. WTC7 was then demolished very symmetrically to attract suspicion. This was done to cover-up the failure of the bomb in the school that Bush was visiting. Rumsfeld’s plane was looped at the pentagon to avoid killing him, so that it would not look like a coup d’etat, giving Cheney the power.

Edward Crowe
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Edward Crowe

There are three mysteries: delay at the school, looping of Pentagon plane, symmetrical demolition of WTC7.
WTC7’s plane was diverted into a field. WTC7 was then demolished very symmetrically to attract suspicion. This was done to cover-up the failure of the bomb in the school that Bush was visiting. Rumsfeld’s plane was looped at the pentagon to avoid killing him, so that it would not look like a coup d’etat, giving Cheney the power.

DavidKNZ
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DavidKNZ

Kudos to Greg Bacon. I have been following his posts on various internet sites; its always to the point, checkable, and more importantly, courageous. I like to think he’s doing this on behalf of his fellow fire fighters who did not survive 9/11

Greg Bacon
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Very astute observation, Mr DavidKNZ. A few years after 9/11, when I realized we had been told lies, I swore that I would work to help expose the truth until the truth emerges about that day, and keep fighting till I turn into worm food.

Not sure which way it will turn out, but the fight goes on.

DavidKNZ
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DavidKNZ

Perhaps you could assemble your various postings into your own blog?? You have a truth to tell, and a common collection point helps in this.
I see you are venturing into Pat Langs space 🙂 Good luck; he tends not to take prisoners
Best David K

zach
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zach

Millions of Americans share your perspective, Greg. But last week’s bipartisan sanctification of McCain suggests the nightnare has a long way to run yet. All the politicians and media are as mad for empire and blood as ever.

archie1954
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Truth will win out but the question is, will it be soon enough?

vexarb
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Archie, in time for what?

“Time is no healer — the patient is no longer here”. — TS Eliot