Israel’s Failed Attempt to Start WWIII Is the Beginning of the End in Syria
by Tom Luongo, via Strategic Culture
There is one thing that Israel fears more than anything else in Syria. The loss of its ability to fly its F-16’s with impunity and hit whatever targets it wants claiming defensive measures to stop Iran, their existential enemy.
Israel finally admitted to carrying out over 200 such missions over the past 18 months, only a few of which ever made any kind of international media, recently.
And with the sneak attack on Latakia which involved using a Russian IL-20 ELINT war plane as radar cover Israel has now not only raised the stakes to an unacceptable level, it has also ensured that this may be the last such aerial assault it will ever be able to carry out.
The setup is pretty clear. Israel and France coordinated an attack on multiple targets within Syria without US involvement but with absolute US knowledge of the operation to provoke Russia into going off half-cocked by attacking the inconsequential French frigate which assisted Israel’s air attack.
Any denunciation of sinister intent by Israeli Defense Forces is hollow because if they had not intended to provoke a wider conflict they would have given Russia more than one minute to clear their planes from the area.
That would constitute an attack on a NATO member state and require a response from NATO, thereby getting the exact escalation needed to continue the war in Syria indefinitely and touch off WWIII.
This neatly bypasses any objections to a wider conflict by President Trump who would have to respond militarily to a Russian attack on a NATO ally. It also would reassert NATO’s necessity in the public dialogue, further marginalizing Trump’s attacks on it and any perceived drive of his for peace.
That this took place within the 60 days window of the mid-term elections should also not be discounted.
This attack took place just hours after Presidents Erdogan and Putin negotiated a ‘peaceful’ settlement for Idlib province by declaring a De-Militarized Zone (DMZ) 15-20 kilometers wide which everyone, including Erdogan’s pets Jabhat al-Nusra would have to abide by.
Peace was breaking out in Syria and Israel and the war-hawks in D.C. weren’t standing for that.
By conducting this attack like this Israel and the NATO crowd figured it would be a win/win for them.
If Russia strikes back at France, then NATO invokes Article 5 and they get their wider war.
If Russia doesn’t strike back Putin loses face within Russia, his popularity drops 5 points and John Bolton begins salivating at the prospect of regime change in Russia. Yes, they are that insane.
It was a neat piece of geopolitical maneuvering, almost judo-like. Russia and Syria looked to be on the verge of victory, extending themselves in a major conflict that would result in months of bad press. We were expecting a possible false-flag chemical weapons attack, cries of humanitarian crisis and all the rest of the tired virtue-signaling we can expect by US ‘diplomatic’ officials that has been all too common even under Trump.
What we got was the opposite, a carefully-crafted assault on Russian military forces wherein Russia’s vaunted air-defense systems would be blamed for its own people’s deaths and a mistaken counter-attack that justifies the “Putin is a Vile War-Monger” narrative to justify a US invasion of Syria which has been held in amber since 2013 and Putin’s skilful defusing that situation via diplomatic means.
For once, this almost looked like a well-thought out plan. Not the usual ham-fisted crudities we’ve been treated to over the last few years. But, here’s the rub.
It didn’t work.
By naming names and immediately not responding militarily during the ‘fog of war’ Russia and Putin again prove to be more skilled at this than their adversaries.
Because none of what I just outlined will come to pass. And France, Israel and the US will be the ones to lose face here. And with Israel betraying Putin’s forbearance after April’s air strikes on Damascus, he will have no choice but to upgrade Syria’s air defense systems from S-200’s to S-300’s and possibly S-400’s.
This is Israel’s worst nightmare. A situation where any aerial assault on targets within Syria would be suicide missions, puncturing the myth of the Israeli air force’s superiority and shifting the delicate balance of power in Syria decidedly against them.
This is why Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu worked Putin so hard over the last two years. But, this incident wipes that slate clean. This was a cynical betrayal of Putin’s trust and patience. And Israel will now pay the price for their miscalculation.
Giving Syria S-300’s does not avenge the fifteen dead Russian soldiers. Putin will have to respond to that in a more concrete way to appease the hardliners in his government and at home. His patience and seeming passivity are being pushed to their limit politically. This is, after all, a side benefit to all of this for the neoconservative and globalist hawks in D.C., Europe and Tel Aviv.
But, the real loss here for Israel will be Russia instituting a no-fly zone over western Syria. Any less response from Putin will be seized upon by and the situation will escalate from here. So, Putin has to deploy S-300’s here. And once that happens, the real solution to Syria begins in earnest.
Because at that point it will be the US’s move to flat-out invade without provocation, now that a solution is in place in Syria between Russia and a NATO member, Turkey.
The only good news in all of this is that US forces were not involved. This still tells me that Trump and Mattis are still in charge of their chain of command and that other forces are conspiring to drag them into a conflict no one in their right minds wants.
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But Britain is continuing to prepare for WWIII over Syria.
Theresa May has just agreed to accept into Britain a hundred jihadi propagandists (“White Helmets”) and their families.
Haven’t we got enough to do managing the integration of law-abiding, moderate Muslims?
Be careful what you wish for; you might get it. BTL Saker:
Amerikanski on September 24, 2018 · at 11:52 am EST/EDT
Hillary gets her wish. She always said she wanted a no-fly zone over Syria.
Russia does the right thing, eventually..
“During a Monday briefing, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Moscow will deliver the S-300 air defense systems to Syria within two weeks as an adequate response to Israel’s role in the downing of the Russian Il-20 plane last week.
“The Syrian Armed Forces will be supplied with the advanced S-300 air defense missile system within two weeks. It is capable of intercepting air threats at a range of more than 250 kilometers and simultaneously hitting several aerial targets,” Shoigu said, adding that the S-300 would significantly boost Syria’s combat capabilities”. https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201809241068279653-russia-syria-s-300/
It’s not true until it is officially denied: the UK had no subs in the Med, due to lack of assets.
https://sputniknews.com/world/201809241068277088-royal-navy-sub-syria-lack-assets/
Dear Major General Igor Konashenkov: You are sincere but naive. The rulers of Israel do not keep their word because they do not consider you to be their equal. They do not value the lives of others who are not of their own race. Why do you allow Israel to bomb Syria while you are fighting to preserve Syria? Why do you sell S400 systems to Saudi, to Turkey, to India, but not to Syria and Iran? Why do you deny that Russia and Syria operate friend or foe technology? http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/13836/its-official-russia-and-syria-have-linked-their-air-defense-networks
https://youtu.be/kjOH1XMAwZA
BTL today’s Saker Vineyard, re Russian MOD report on Israel’s treachery:: Auslander on September 23, 2018 · at 1:27 pm EST/EDT We were at a facility for a memorial service for the lost soldiers, and about all I can say of the mood there is ‘ice cold anger’. No one will do anything without specific orders, but in my opinion, if the order comes to teach someone a lesson, that lesson will be delivered with alacrity. The first fact is the Israeli MoD and other minions flying to Moskau with such speed speaks volumes, in other words, they know they’ve intercoursed up big time. Second fact is Shoigu did not give them the time of day whilst the Israelis cooled their heels in Moskau. That alone speaks better than words of what is coming. Third fact is the emotionless and careful laying out of evidence of the event and evidence… Read more »
The Zionist, not precise I know but the best popularly recognised label, Mafia have been badgering Russia since Napoleonic times. The Russians have suffered desperately from many acts of warfare perpetrated from within Russia but very much orchestrated by the Rothschild loyal servants. Russia has never effectively gone to war with that Mafia. It’s high time it did.
The blood feud may go back to the Khazarian Empire. But I feel the addition of ‘mafia’ or ‘power class’ acknowledges a difference between those who share in the Jewish identity and those who manipulate identities – whatever their actual allegiances. Likewise any nation’s citizens are not directly responsible for acts carried by their governments, or those nominally of a particular faith and ‘religious’ extremists. War by guile and stealth is the nature of modern thinking that goes back to the Trojan Horse. Mafia is also a term for ‘organised crime’ in terms of inter ‘family’ or inter-corporate alliances operating to protect the ‘class’ of power over key areas of influence. So they limit inter ‘family’ competition in cartel agreements so as to operate greater power in combination than going it alone. The use of inducements and incentives by deceit, to recruit support, funding or protection from threat is simply… Read more »
To answer Bevin’s criticisms, again: and to highlight the unsustainability of the current economic rationality… To recognise the futility of continuing to follow the same diadic capitalist/socialist economic rationality of growth: whilst expecting different results …think of the bioshpere as a client, and the economic calculus of the capitalist/socialist diadic as their personal trainer. This PT gets paid, not by the hour, but gains profit only by increasing the maximal heart-rate of the client. Their rate of return (profit margin) is proportional to the net increase they can achieve. It is not a hard and fast scientific metric, but currently the heart-rate is at 170% of maximal. The laws of accumulation, motion and compounded exponential growth vectors of the current economic calculus require that heart-rate to increase to 175%, 180%, 200% (a new planet is required) …how long do you think the client will last? A new economic rationality would… Read more »
That was only part of my comment, not sure what happened to the rest. This page is a bit dead, and Bevin never replies to my comments …he just wants to blow his own capitalist imperialist pseudo-socialist trumpet. O well, if he wants to make it personal, I’m sure this will run and run elsewhere …
“The setup is pretty clear. Israel and France coordinated an attack on multiple targets within Syria without US involvement but with absolute US knowledge of the operation to provoke Russia into going off half-cocked by attacking the inconsequential French frigate which assisted Israel’s air attack.” This is wild speculation, and not helpfull presented as it is. It may be true but it is not a fact, so dont present it as it is. The author uses the same tools as the MSM, we should hold our standards higher. Very, very few people know what happened on that fateful day and they are mum, please abstain of assigning guilt, before due process, else you look like T. May or B. Johnson. We do not sink that low. We can and do speculate if there was a concerted effort to start a large scale conflict, but things went wrong. I for one… Read more »
Kong, by now the Russian MOD report has come out, and you can see for yourself that OffG was spot on: Israel has committed a cold-blooded act of treachery toward Russia, and nearly precipitated WW3 by Criminal Irresponsibility.
Should peace come soon to Syria via Astana process….Syrians vote for new consitution etc…..will Syria need still to be under constant defence alert…or is the west still going attack under their pretence they might accept it….remember how much they attacked others without UN resolutions and with their lies and scheming….they will always want it….to get revenge in whatever way they can and against Rusdia.
The content of this article seems reasonable to me. The only thing, I don’t quite understand how NATO could think that Russia “mistakenly” would sink a French frigate in response to an attack by Israel on Syria? It’s hard to believe that fools are working in NATO. I don’t want to praise [too much], but the Russian S-400 complexes are too good to think so badly about them (as, apparently, in NATO they think). If the French really launched a missile on a Russian aircraft, this launch would be immediately tracked, recognized as hostile & aimed at the Russian facility, and the missile would be destroyed. Concerning the destruction of the French frigate itself (as a carrier of a missile), I think the Russian military leadership would have made a decision to destroy it or not. And it seems to me that the decision to destroy it would not have… Read more »
‘BigB’ s contributions-below-require correction. This is the short version- the long version is “A History of England within a global context” I’m still working on that! ” there appears to have been a silent coup d’etat in the UK …one that no one seems to have noticed.” No. There is nothing new about this. The UK has always been run by The Establishment. Since the Korean War, roughly, there has been as progressive dismantling of the constitutional arrangements which can be summed up as sovereignty. A series of arrangements both informal- of which the best example is the ‘special relationship’ a sado masochistic bond between The Establishment and Washington – and formal, NATO, the EU, the WTO and successive trade agreements, have eroded the powers reserved to The Crown in Parliament until that institution has become the ‘talking shop’ in theory that it has long been in fact. Foreign Policy,… Read more »
“Foreign Policy, Economic policy, social policy, commercial policy, command of and procurement for the military have all been, to a greater or larger extent, removed from the control of elected representatives.”
Thanks for the great post. What is described in your comment apply 100% to Australia where the term ‘Foreign Policy’ has been effectively removed from public discourse.
Probably, the same apply to the other FIVE EYES members.
Don’t you think, the same is happening in most countries in the Western Hemisphere?
“Don’t you think, the same is happening in most countries in the Western Hemisphere?”
Yes. And the people of the South, the imperial periphery, some of whom briefly regained sovereignty of a kind (Argentine for example) and began to develop their abilities to rely on themselves, have either never had anything approaching sovereignty or lost it to the IMF/World Bank in the last half century.
Austfailia is a puppet-state, a complete stooge of the USA, which controls our military-intelligence apparatus completely, and Israel, which controls our politics through direct monetary generosity and the ‘antisemitism’ industry. That an American, Satan Murdoch, controls much of the media and utilises it as a brutal propaganda hate-machine (STILL denying climate destabilisation today, as it accelerates destructively)to the benefit of the hard Right, also worsens the nightmare.
Murdoch’s toxic agenda is on full display in Australian politics. Kevin Rudd bravely and accurately described Rupert Murdoch as ‘the greatest cancer on the Australian democracy’.
But do we know why Murdoch wanted Australia’s Turnbull removed?
Why would Murdoch want to replace a prime minister with someone identical? What would he gain by replacing one conservative elitist with another elitist fuckwit?
Turnbull wanted to do something about anthropogenic climate destabilisation, even if was a pathetically inadequate ‘something’. That is anathema to the omnicidal Right, led by Murdoch’s death-machine media, where fanatic denial of climate destabilisation is obligatory, along with frenzied hatred of all environmentalism, all Greens and all renewable energy. Murdoch, in my very firm opinion, represents absolute Evil, and at 87 it seems that his remaining life’s work is to destroy humanity, for some hideous psychopathological reasons that defy understanding.
What was considered hyperbole, is now an accurate description of the situation.
We are indeed living under the:
Omnicidal Fascist NeoLiberal Death-Machine
.. and it’s all legal in this so-called democratic system!
Thanks Mulga, I appreciate your reply.
A nice Mid-Autumn Festival meal might make us feel better!
You have Murdoch appropriately tagged but for one aspect. He doesn’t make as much money from newspapers and television except that he uses the political influence they create to make money in other areas such as fossil fuels. For instance his desire to get rid of Assad is very much tied to his oil ventures in partnership with Dick Cheney based in the Golan Heights.
The desperation to have more power and influence makes him act irrationally not only in denying the scientific basis of climate change but also because fossil fuels do not have a much longer future as an energy source than Rupert has left in the land of the living. Perhaps the selfish bastard thinks that the world should stop when he does.
Dear Mrs. Mumblebrain Yes indeed Austfalia (formerly known as Australia) is in deed a fail. I had the pleasure of living there from 1968-1971, and we were never really integrated. Locals looked on us with suspicion, (I am Danish) too good schooling, to much knowledge, I had a hard time in school, even having learnt English in less than 3 months. I went from a Danish class 4 to an Austfalian class 6, and had not problems barring initial language problems. In the years there I ever only managed to have 1 friend of Aussie heritage, the rest were immigrants like myself, Greeks , Italians, English. Aussies never understood our European sense of understanding the world. ( At the time I had visited ALL European countries). I am thankful we went back to Denmark in 1971, but with an experience richer. (Driving in acar across Australia at the time was… Read more »
Yes Australian Government’s are stooges of the USA but most Australians are not yet aware of it. Perhaps the masses will turn their minds to it once the footy finals are over.
I notice Like Harding has put out another work of fiction regarding RUSSIA . Lots of unnamed officials and innuendo but not a single fact to be seen. I wonder If the Guardian would pay me for a work of fiction.
We saw the term ‘crocodile tears’ used frequently in the past few days.
Evidently, the crocodile is everyday in the news, but there weren’t any tears. Just a monster crocodile.
You’ve got to see the Israelis in private, how they dance and congratulate each other after each deadly military operation. Like their US protector, they thrive on seeding chaos.
Should the IDF precipitate the much-talked about larger conflict, NATO will find a purpose for their existence and will be grateful to the Israelis for it. Trump will enjoy bipartisan support and he will look ‘presidential’ again!
Not to forget, under Bush and Obama, Israel was given a guarantee of military superiority in any military conflict. And shouldn’t they be dancing and singing since they never have to pay for this guarantee?!
Here’s Elijah J Magnier’s take.
https://ejmagnier.com/2018/09/18/russia-usa-israel-iran-and-syria-a-continuous-struggle-to-trigger-or-avoid-war/
Another great article pasted here.
No criticsim intended, just curiosity…why are 90% of articles here concerning Russia vs NATO? I would have thought that ‘Off Guardian’ is the anecdote to the Guardian Of The British Establishment? The Guardian publicises all manner of articles of which I guess even in these heightened times are not more than 25% Russophobic.
Let’s have a broader range of stuff here rather than the very frequent articles concerning Russia by Vaska and others.
Disagree. Firstly, there has been a wide variety of articles posted on this site this summer.
Secondly, ‘World War Three’ kind of pushes certain stories up the priority list.
We tend to deal with whatever major issues are arising currently. The suggestion we only write about Russia is obviously untrue. Check out our front page
It might be true in theory that “only 25% of the Guardian is Russophobic”, but the anti-Russian narrative is currently dominating all of the public debate and the Guardian is following that, if not actually leading it. When did you last see a positive or simply truthful story about Russia in the Guardian, say one detailing the Russian point of view, or explaining their recent demolition of the lies about MH17? Or Novichok? You might just need to get used to seeing those “Russophilic” stories on the Off Guardian, which has duty to publish all the stuff that the Guardian won’t …!
Barnay Ronay, their reporter during the WC became quite flattering and surprised by his experiences of ordinary Russia, the only objective reporting i read. Poor Barnay seems to have been relegated since. He should tell them to fuck off and get online.
Portonchok the huge amount of anti Russian dross in the MSM and particularly in the Guardian needs to be unlocked or the propaganda will be accepted as truth. And as Mog says I find the idea of WW3 extremely abhorrent and that it should be taking a prime part of our discourse.
Along with WW3 I am deeply concerned that if we do not oppose the churn of take information and propaganda we will soon be dispensable to the oligarchs or their slaves.
What disgusting pariahs Americans and other Western nations are! They will kill or provoke killing until their lust for blood sates them and then demand more. They’re Vampiric and evil. Honestly when I read that France had dispatched a missile out of the blue, so to speak, my first thought was, “Russia, sink the French ship”. This article explains how Putin is smarter than I am, or any American or French leader, for that matter. If anyone, but Putin, were the President of Russia, we would all be glowing ashes by now.
“It was a neat piece of geopolitical maneuvering, almost judo-like”.
More like a Go player who congratulates himself on having surrounded his opponent’s stone, only to realise – far too late – that his own forces have been surrounded.
This is on topic, in reference to the shoot down being discussed. I don’k know quite what to make of this, but within this dialog the inference of Israel having tried to lend support to the Liberty after realizing a tragic mistake is certainly something I have not previously heard.
It is well worth reading Joaquin Flores’ follow up article, that quotes another earlier Tom Luongo article. Or Pepe Escobar’s version https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/09/more-experts-confirm-that-france-took-down-il-20-identify-friend-foe-system-did-not-fail/ I don’t think VVP comes out of this smelling of roses, but I’m prepared to cut him a lot of slack …thanks mainly to the fact that I am still alive to write this. And that is a genuine, not a figurative reference. Being British, my main concern is the fact that two RAF Tornadoes were either out for a jolly, at my expense, or, more likely, they took part in Monday nights attack. There is no official confirmation of this, but I can hardly infer otherwise from the fact they were in a holding pattern above the IDF F-16s. Waiting for what: clear blue sky? [If anyone is interested, I did all my reasoning on the Flores forum, and came to the same conclusion as Tom]. My… Read more »
I just read in the Saker article posted below, that the British sub, HMS Talent, cancelled launching it cruise missiles because it was being shadowed by two Russian subs. I do not think it irrational or hysterical to claim the UK is under new management, as of Monday night. The question is who? It will require something more than the obsequity of a vote to get them out. We’ve been regime changed, and we don’t even know it. 🙁
The Brit news service http://www.ukcolumn.org has long been bewailing the continued “merger” of our armed forces with the French in particular & the coming EU army under Federica Mogherini.
Founder & ex naval officer Brian Gerrish is most unimpressed.
John Doran.
That’s what I was alluding to. There has been a bureaucratic takeover with a shadowy Pearle Office running policy: but for whom? We are paying Brussels to unify the EU’s military (David Ellis: testimony to Commons Select Committee); we’ve cut our forces to the bone to suit the EU integrated structure; we’ll be paying into a common procurement fund; then, very probably, a common Treasury for our taxation …all under the singlepoint control of Brussels. It is not even on the political spectrum, let alone within the Overton Window of acceptable discourse. It is being done in circumvention of Parliament, not that the self-serving elite would oppose it. The country at large are being kept in the dark, whil an elitist militarist imperialist invisible junta do as they please. And the level of political insight, even among many of the ‘woke’ is that Jeremy Corbyn will save us. All they… Read more »
Rant away mate: I agree with every word. 🙂
As someone who listens to every UK Column broadcast I agree with you 100%, even to the niggles. And I wholeheartedly agree with every word on Corbyn. It is the ultimate irony that we have the ability like never before to be politically and socially savy yet so many choose to ignore our collective reality. Perhaps 8000 individuals are running our planet and our species into an abyss that they themselves will not want to survive. Yet we hope that the other 7.5billion will listen to us. Perhaps we are hoping to persuade the wrong people. I think we need a satirist to make grandmother appeals to these errant waifs of the NWO! In the meantime I think it incumbant on me, on my one wage packet away from destitute – but steak and claret till then – Utopia to continue my priviliged fiddling while Rome vapourises. Even though existentially… Read more »
What if the presumption of human agency to make or change truth/reality is the illusion of power running like a ‘matrix’ over the (denied or ruled out) true heart knowing? The assertive presentation of power is the puffed up sense of self-specialness cloaked in justifications FOR the response. I see that our interpretation therefore generates the response and the conviction we are right is in the ‘Inquisitor’s’ conviction as to the evil in the sinner – which of course is a projection acted out in ‘righteous’ hate upon them. What if true and truly Human agency is always an expression and embodiment of a SHARED reality, rather than an attempt to kill or deny parts of ourself that we hate, fear or are shamed to uncover? The seeking OF power OUTSIDE our truly shared and connected self is the lure to a false dependency culture or protection racket. Be vigilant… Read more »
Big B, Joaquin Flores’ article seems quite credible at first reading, except for a few things. The French, are not quite THAT stupid – sure they probably lobbed a few bombs at Syria but not at The Russian Aircraft. They knew they were sitting ducks, and have now probably worked out why. This is not going to enhance French-Israeli relations. Even us British are not quite THAT stupid. They admittedly were up in the air and watching what was going on – and they had a sub underwater – and they knew they were being tailed by 2 Russian subs, and even they realised.it simply wasn’t worth starting WWIII by shooting down a large old Russian airplane that had 15 very experienced Specialists onboard simply watching what was going on…and reporting live back to the groundstation as fast as modern communications allow. Isreal. They are That Stupid. The Americans weren’t… Read more »
Tony I’d like to share your view of the British and French being rational actors, but I do not. Whilst I would not seek to underplay the part of the IDF, and I certainly am no apologist for the child murdering cowardly bastards, neither do I think their role should be overplayed. After all, in a minor way, they have taken the heat for an act of war, and allowed a de-escalation for now. The Anglo-French part of the attack needs emphasising: it being the culmination of decades of behind the scenes furtive planning. You’ll have to go to the UK Column for the timeline, but the Anglo-French supra-state agreements date back decades, but culminate in the 2010 Lancaster House ’50 Year Defence Pact’ which is the core of EU Military Unification. https://www.ukcolumn.org/series/eu-military-unification The point I am making is that I can infer, but not prove, that the Anglo-French forces… Read more »
I’m with you mate. Sooo..who controls NATO? Obviously not their general secretary sock puppet.
Are we getting into David Icke territory with such questions? Finally, perhaps?
After all, some of the big, visible, for some reason legal, corporate players in this mess make zero attempts to hide their, uhm.. affiliations with the dark side. With names like “Blackrock” (..end scene of Gilliam’s “Time Bandits” anyone?), logos like bitten apples, etc. Do super-entities such as these not have “owners”?
In our times, who can AFFORD total privacy, invisibility even? Who in their right mind would even consider founding a friggin “shadow bank”?
I tend to have a belief along the same lines and you have a much better way of putting it into words.
“The Anglo-French part of the attack needs emphasising ..” (Right) … but the Lancaster Treaty is not “core of EU military unification” but a modern version of the old “entente cordiale” (a pact between two colonial powers to diminish the power of Germany and Russia (even if it means a World War) and then draw new borders and divide the spoils (Sykes-Picot etc.) … http://www.voltairenet.org/article199528.html JAN 2018 The Franco-British « Entente cordiale » As I have suggested before, the shooting down of the IL-20 should be seen in the context of the “Suez Crisis” (where Britain, France and Israel secretly conspired to get rid of Nasser and prevent Arab nationalism from spreading but only Israel appeared as the aggressor…) http://www.voltairenet.org/article203086.html Sept 2018 “The confrontation which recently occurred in Lattakia may result in a complete global redistribution of the cards. There are two reasons for this, the second of which is… Read more »
Great points Tony, and fellow Brits. I feel they may have delayed it, but sadly not prevented it.
Indeed BB – an attack on Israel would not be an attack on Nato. The French ship was setup to be retaliated on. The UK fighters would have recorded it, if not actually gone to ‘help’ our EU cousins. Macron and May would have pre approved it. The US strike force would have arrived to impose the ‘No fly zone’. Trumps hand would have been forced. Putins orders not to retaliate against the French must have been hard for the watching Russian ship. But they really are pro’s. Putin/Trump direct communication channel must have confirmed that Trump did not approve the plan. The US generals are nothing but outlaw thugs. I speculated that it is only a matter of time before some crazed gung-ho, trigger pulling, Admiral starts shooting down Iranian and other airlines just so he can finally have his glorious final fight! Expecting at least a future tub… Read more »
I don’t think the NATO terrorists want ww3. I’d hazard a guess and suggest they were wagering that Russia would shoot itself in the foot by retaliating so much so that international pressure would force them to remove themselves from Syria. No doubt NATO wouldve denied their planes,ships and Israel jets were involved in the shooting down of the Russian plane and in fact Russia and Putin were just acting as usual I.e warmongers. NATO and especially the yanks want Russia out of Syria so they can continue with their plan for Syria. Remember the west went Buck mad when Russia decided to enter this contest. So far Putin and its allies have not taken the bait. Long may that continue. Btw, with Turkey entering a pact with Russia it has unnerved the NATO terrorists even more I.e any fake flag attack and the inevitable NATO response from it, will… Read more »
In whatever context one chooses to view the following info….it is interesting none the less. One way or another, there will likely be another big surprise on the way soon.
https://www.brasscheck.com/video/the-simple-case-for-israeli-involvement-in-9-11/?omhide=true
The vid is far too complicated. The “is” sappers were in the WTC. They had boxes and boxes of fuses. Just stop there.
It does remind me of the pink umbrella with the poison dart that killed Kennedy. I just sent for the book anyway.You never know. Somewhat surprising that after 17 years people still think they have groundbreaking news about 9/11, Then again, after over half a century we are still getting new truths about the JFK assassination all the time. Maybe the real truth passed us by in the flurry?
What isn’t surprising is that it hardly matters any more.It almost seems that what is most important now is producing a video with an eerie sound track. It has become almost an art form. By the time ww111 arrives we will all be yawning and not know if it real or not.I rather think it will be quite spectacular myself. I wonder what is taking it so long.
Perhaps ‘ww3’ is waged against the human spirit as the undoing of consciousness as a kind of ‘regime change’ to an incapacity to have a voice, that can be heard or effect any outcome?
This is a variation on uploading human consciousness to digital form.
How much is the ‘world’ used as a sideshow of diversionary or false flagged causes and triggers, while an operating system ‘upgrade’ or is it down grade? – is being enacted.
The most rudimentary pattern being that of the seduction to a personal sense of power effecting a subjection to powerlessness – with the ‘naked emperor’ being the last to know.
Thank you
This is not about judo or 3D chess, it is about a sudden, massive dose of brute force annihilating the Syrian army in strategically chosen locales and taking out Assad. There is no way NATO will allow Syria and Russia to be victorious now that the end of the war appears to be so close. Here is a comment from Bob written on 9/21/18 in response to a post by The Saker on the same date. “I have seen a lot of praise for Putin every time he “avoids being drawn in” by this or that provocation. It is true that Putin’s course in Syria has necessarily required him to avoid certain “traps” by not reacting as expected to various provocations. Each time he has “not responded” to a provocation, many of us have pointed out the danger of not maintaining Russia’s ability to deter the Anglo-zionists, we have been… Read more »
Your fears seem to be confirmed by the presence of the USS 6th Fleet, that has amassed 200 TLAMS (Tomahawks) in the Eastern Med off Latakia: as part of NATO Maritime Group 2.
https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/09/nato-warships-amassed-by-syria-just-before-attack-on-lattakia/
I just read the Saker, and some of the hysterical comments. There is much being made of the IDF part in this, and I’m no IDF apologist, but I do not think they shot down the Il-20. In fact, I’m not even sure they had much to do with it. If we look at the map Russia produced, the Il-20 flew on up the coast, AFTER the contact with the IDF. Now, I have no idea if the map is to scale or a mere infographic …but taking it as a reasonably real depiction: I’m guestimating the Il-20 was 15 miles further up the coast, on approach to Kheimim, before it went down at 22:07. If I’m correct, the F-16s were half way to Haifa at the time on the flight path, as depicted. Which puts the FS Auvergne in the frame. http://johnhelmer.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5-7.png Of course, it could be that the… Read more »
Steve and all who believe that the Russians would be unable to defend against the Nato fleet – don’t be too sure. The Russians could take out the whole US fleet/ Cyprus/ IDF/ Saudis and others from their Black Sea bases. Never mind the hypersonic and stealth weaponery.
Look these forces have been planning for a nato first attack ever since Patton threatened to keep going to Moscow.
The Iranians being poked by the thugwits to get a reaction now.
Trump is being forced into his JFK moment – i trust he doesn’t have Ex idf bodyguards but his own!
Brilliant analysis.
I think we were exceedingly close to starting WWIII on Monday, yet hardly anyone seems the slightest bit concerned. All it takes is one mistake, or one itchy finger, and then it would spiral out of all control. Nuclear War is Terminal. It would put the planet back several Billion years.
Tony
Worry does not add anything but more fear to a fearfully defined identity conflict. Live this day well! relates to being truly present in what IS here. Emotional experience based on what is not here is in my opinion part of what attracts the very thing it fears. If it is your business to be involved, go about your business. Fear operates as belief. If you fear something, it is necessarily invested in, and then a mind or strategy of evasion operate the defence against the reliving of the fear – because we cannot really be afraid of an unknown, but only of projections and associations onto the ‘as yet unrecognized’. The Earth has had ‘extinction events’, or world epochs, come and go before our time. To what degree are we fixated in a fascination with horror and getting off on the ‘dynamic’ of conflict? Is consciousness a matter of… Read more »
Excellent article. However, with no comment by France that one of its ships was firing missiles into Latakia, I wonder if it was an Israeli sub doing the firing? Certainly, it would make excellent sense for an Israeli sub to remain very close to any NATO ship in the area. It may be why Russia has set up the naval exclusion zone so that it can attack any unidentified vessels in the area and say it was an unfortunate accident. Certainly, there will be another attempt to provoke a crisis. You do not call up an aircraft carrier plus its attendant fleet all the way from the east coast of America to join the party only to have to postpone it. I did read the narrative put out by mainstream media that it was all an unfortunate chain of circumstances but you cannot get away from the fact that the… Read more »
But will Russia really give Syria modern air defences? It’s a taboo in the West and no doubt Putin is constantly reminded of that by Netanyu in his frequent visits to Moscow. Putin is on a high wire but it turns out he’s a brilliant acrobat. The ‘West’, the forces of Reaction long for the chance to ‘get him’ in a way that doesn’t seem imperialistic but the bugger keeps dodging them. Putin’s credibility is sky high after this week’s events – and he still retains his ability to provide advanced weapons if and when really needed as well as his own military forces. Jumping into a war he can’t win is clearly not on his bucket list.
I don’t think Putin’s credibility is very high at all. He immediately excused and minimised Israeli operations as an “accident” and “tragic series of events.” If I was a Russian servicemen I would be asking for another commander in chief, one who values the lives of his servicemen. If Shoigu had any sense of honour, he would resign. Syria has had to defend itself with 50 year old S200s. These museum pieces are the equivalent of 1950s Bloodhound missiles. Putin would prefer to sell the S300/400s to Shady Wahabia, the Dictator of Qatar, and Sultan Erdogan. Russia refused to supply S300s to Iran that had been paid for. Putin doesn’t have to start WW3. there are many other things he could do to respond and protect Russian forces. He could end travel by aircraft and ships between Israel and Russia. He could impose economic sanctions on Israel. He could stop… Read more »
The UK is selling modern defences to Israel to protect them from sling projected stones from the Palestinians who don’t like the fact that they are being occupied and oppressed. The French sold nuclear weapons to Israel because they hate Muslims after being defeated in Algeria.
The UK and French slave regimes aid Israel because Zionazi money power controls politics in both countries. The hatred of Israel’s victims is mandatory-as we see from the Corbyn lynching, refusing to join is is ‘antisemitic’.
I note that the S300 missiles are now being installed in Syria. Much better that Syrians shoot down Israeli and NATO aircraft while defending their country.p openop ist
Thank you so much for providing us with a healthy analysis of the facts .It was really depressing to hear how things had played out .Although I did read about no fly zone being imposed by Russia for Israeli flights over Syrian territory yesterday , giving time for Russia to implement the S-300 installation in order to ensure this will not happen again.
No more Israeli flights over Syrian territory because they will indeed get shot out of the sky by the SAA , and with proper justification.You always come through ,Vaska , with the proper interpretation of the facts .
Vaska didn’t author the article. The author’s name is at the top of the piece under the header
Then Kudos to Tom Luongo. Well done.
Time to say Goodbye – Israel will be awarded the John McCain Medal for Cowardice.
The Israelis cry whenever one of their IDF psychopaths is captured or killed.
Old proverb, adapted for modern usage-‘The Zionazi cries out in pain, as he smashes you in the face’.
Good strong reasoning, the best I’ve read so far. Nice one!