The 9/11 anniversary: Conspiracy theory or critical thinking? There should be no stigma attached to questioning the official account of what happened 17 years ago

Graeme MacQueen

Graeme MacQueen at the 2011 Toronto Hearings on 9/11

On the 17th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks that let loose so much international violence, the public has a right to ask what really happened on that day. Here are eight points to ponder.

  1. Questioners of the official account of 9/11 are often dismissed as “conspiracy theorists,” but this makes no sense. A conspiracy is just a secret plan, by two or more people, to commit a criminal or immoral act. The 9/11 attacks obviously involved a conspiracy.
  2. Some people think that the truth of the official account blaming al-Qaida is obvious to every sane person. Not true. Polls suggest that less than half the world’s population shares this confidence.
  3. If Bin Laden was the criminal mastermind, why didn’t the FBI charge him with the crime? In 2006 an FBI spokesperson explained: the Bureau had no hard evidence connecting him to 9/11.
  4. Questioners of the official account of 9/11 are not all woolly-minded bloggers. Many have relevant expertise. Winner of the National Medal of Science in the U.S., Lynn Margulis, said the science supporting the official account is appallingly weak. Over 3,000 credentialed architects and engineers have publicly expressed dissatisfaction with the official account of the destruction of the World Trade Center.
  5. In 2006, a peer-reviewed article revealed that 118 members of the Fire Department of New York reported witnessing explosions during the collapse of the Twin Towers. Patterns of explosions were witnessed, going around as well as up and down the buildings. This challenged the official claim that the buildings were brought down by plane impact and fires. It suggested controlled demolition.
  6. In 2009, another peer-reviewed article reported the discovery of large quantities of an exotic explosive and incendiary (nanothermite) in the dust of the World Trade Center. The samples were collected before the cleanup of the site began. This supported the demolition hypothesis.
  7. The National Institute of Standards and Technology, given the task of accounting for the World Trade Center destruction, failed to explain to the satisfaction of many scientists the total collapse of a third skyscraper on 9/11, 47-storey World Trade Center 7. No plane hit this building, yet at 5:21 p.m. down it went, beginning its descent symmetrically, suddenly, and at free fall acceleration. Everything about this collapse suggests demolition.
  8. In April 2018, eight lawyers filed a petition with the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. The petition offers detailed evidence that the Trade Center was destroyed by explosives and it demands that this evidence of a federal crime be submitted to a grand jury, with the ultimate aim of charging those responsible.

Clearly, there should be no stigma attached to the questioning of the official account of 9/11. Readers wishing to know more may consult the petition of the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry and the findings of the international 9/11 Consensus Panel, both of which can be found on the internet.

NOTES:

  1. My definition of “conspiracy” is quite standard. But if people want to follow up they can read the introduction to my book, The 2001 Anthax Deception. A good book on the topic of conspiracy theory is Lance DeHaven-Smith’s Conspiracy Theory in America.
  2. I discuss some of the major, large-scale poll results in this article.
  3. That OBL was never indicted is not controversial. The reference to the FBI and hard evidence is supported here.
  4. The website of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth contains the relevant information about the architects and engineers. You can listen to the late Lynn Margulis speak about the official story of the Trade Center destruction here.
  5. I know this research well since it is my own. I can assure you the journal was peer-reviewed. I had to make a couple of big changes in the article after receiving reviewers’ comments.
  6. This is the article. We brought the lead author of this article, Niels Harrit, to McMaster to give an address some years ago. I’m sure he would be happy to discuss this issue with you if you have questions.
  7. The best single publication questioning NIST’s explanation of the destruction of the World Trade Center, including WTC 7, is Beyond Misinformation.
  8. The entire text of the latest version of the lawyers’ petition can be found here, with links to relevant exhibits.
Graeme MacQueen is the former director of the Centre for Peace Studies at McMaster University. He is a member of the 9/11 Consensus Panel, former co-editor of the Journal of 9/11 Studies, and an organizer of the 2011 Toronto Hearings, the results of which have been published in book form as The 9/11 Toronto Report.

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Rob
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Rob

The World Trade Center 7 collapse has been adequately explained. Seriously, look at the level of detail in the following article https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/.

NOTE BY ADMINthis is literally untrue; the official government bodies appointed to explain the collapse of WTC7 were unable or unwilling to offer a complete explanation

Rhisiart Gwilym
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Rhisiart Gwilym

‘Adequately’ explained? Are you serious? The shallow dog’s-breakfast offered by the tinkering amateurs at PM – keeping their readers, and more importantly, their owners sweet? Thanks for the laff, Rob! As you might expect, David Ray Griffin demolished the amateurs at PM some time ago, as thoroughly as the false-flag operatives themselves demolished the three WTC buildings with previously-installed standard CD charges. Not difficult to do that to PM, if you’re intellectually honest. David, remember, is a retired professor of comparative theology. Even so, he floored them – because he’s honest about the established facts, and about basic physics; incomparable… Read more »

Sandra Gibbon
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Sandra Gibbon

Steven Jones, the discredited physicist who championed thermite on which the entire CD hypothesis rests, has long been debunked. Without him there isn’t anything serious on which to base a case for CD

Pained Scientist
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Pained Scientist

Hold on there Sandy – who exactly has discredited Dr Jones, and when? Was this before or after thermite was “debunked”? Dates, please, and data about the debunking.

milosevic
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milosevic

@flaxgirl Just to answer your question about what I’m trying to suggest with my question about the Mack truck and the sedan. It’s an analogy — the Mack truck is the building and the sedan is the plane. It makes no difference which is going at speed you’d still want to be in the Mack truck because of its much greater mass. I already addressed this, above. Everybody in the sedan/airplane died, whereas the large majority of the people in the truck/building were completely unhurt. QED. Congratulations on the own goal. there were no planes (using real planes would have… Read more »

Antonyl
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Antonyl

IF the “all powerful” Zionists were behind 9/11 why were New York’s WTC & the Pentagon hit? Any other place would have been better.
Why was Afghanistan counter attacked? Better Iran in Zionist logic.
Are all Wahhabi fanatics just Zionist puppets without any own will or guilt? Black Magic? Are the rest of the 1.8 billion Muslims also controlled by 14 million Jews?
How did Sunni Pakistan got dozens of nuclear tipped missiles apart from a few 9/11 “masterminds”?
Most Palestinians are Sunni too.

milosevic
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milosevic

As usual, the cognitive infiltrators specialize in irrelevant and mostly incoherent questions.

Antonyl
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Antonyl

One thing is sure regarding 9/11: the NSA, FBI & NSA didn’t prevent it and that should have made them pay. Obfuscating the investigation was therefore in their advantage and they managed that brilliantly: they got much more money and legal leeway. The MSM dozed off or were fed distraction.

rilme
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rilme

Flaxgirl, you correctly say “my understanding of physics is virtually non-existent”, but then snow us with your “physics”. I will say no more.

flaxgirl
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I acknowledge being wrong in the way I explained the example of Flight 175 in relation to Newton’s 2nd Law of Motion but I don’t think I was wrong in the way I explained it in relation to the Third. I also provide a webpage that does a much better job than I could. Any problems there, rilme?

I also give the intuitive example of the Mack truck and the sedan. Any problems there, rilme?

milosevic
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milosevic

The car/truck example proves the opposite of what you want it to, as I’ve pointed out twice already. Still no answer to the question of how your innovative conception of physics applies to rifle bullets and pumpkins, or anything else. Obviously, the building and the airplane exert equal and opposite forces on each other during the collision. That’s how the airplane gets shredded, and the building gets a big hole in it, much like JFK’s head. It’s characteristic of disinfo shills that when their arguments are refuted, they simply ignore that fact and keep repeating them, hoping to fool somebody… Read more »

flaxgirl
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My answer is, milosevic, that I readily admit I don’t understand physics and therefore I will not pursue the subject of Flight 175’s crash or bullets further from a physics point of view. Is that a satisfactory response? However, there is more than one way to skin a cat. How about this argument about the plane crashes? I assert that an airliner crash is readily identifiable and should not be disputable, unless there are good reasons, and yet all four plane crashes are massively disputed including by pilots, notably, John Lear. The alleged flights are disputed every step of the… Read more »

iamcrawford
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Thing that puzzles me is, if it was controlled demolitions that brought the towers down, how the explosives were put in place with no-one noticing. Professional demolition people remove internal hindrances so that they can access the structural elements to install the explosives with loads of H&S related activities. Difficult to see how none of this activity could have been done unnoticed.

Rhisiart Gwilym
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Rhisiart Gwilym

It wasn’t ‘unnoticed’. The loading operations had satisfactory – to the casual enquirer – cover-story ‘explanations’: overhauling the lifts; replacing ‘fire-proofing’. In other words: approved-by-the-owners, and thus apparently innocent, ‘necessary building maintenance’ work. And, of course, with the buildings’ custodians briefed on the false cover stories, and thus induced to facilitate >quite innocently< the access for the misidentified criminals who rigged the buildings. It’s precisely the absolute need to arrange permitted access to the buildings for pallet-loads of materiel, together with a team of skilled technicians under the overall direction of a master craftsperson in the art of controlled demolition… Read more »

rilme
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rilme
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milosevic
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milosevic

Also, inside the elevator shafts, which is where the main support columns are. Obviously, you would need to sequentially shut down the elevators while rigging each shaft, but that poses no problem when the building management is in on the operation.

George the Blot
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George the Blot

If WTC 7 was already wired and was the target of UA93, but then had to be demolished when UA93 crashed, how come 93 was heading for Washington, not New York?

okulo
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okulo

There is little proof that Flight 93 was actually targeting Washington. If you look at the various and varying images of 9/11 flight paths, the path of Flight 93 obviously ended at Shanksville (though many project the flightpath further) and was heading in a general Washington direction but (depending on the image) seems to have made a turn towards New York before it then turned again and crashed. However, if it had been targeting WTC7 as some believe, it would probably have had to approach from the east as WTC7 was surrounded by other buildings and that may have been… Read more »

Admin
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With respect George, why or when or how explosives may have been planted is beyond what needs to be discussed at this point. As indeed are planes/no planes and victim numbers. The only thing that matters at this point is that the govt and its appointed agents have failed, by their own admission, to explain what happened on 9/11. Given the enormity of the event and the wars it has been used to justify this is not acceptable. We need to be told what actually happened that day. And for that to be possible we need a new, independent inquiry.… Read more »

chaize
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chaize

Could not agree more. When considering an act committed the reasons why and how such act was carried out are completely secondary to the commisson of the act itself. Such details may have an effect on the sentence in the form of attenuating or aggravating circumstances, as the case may be, but that is all.
Evidence only counts! And that is clear and manifest against as yet unidentifed members of the US government – and others. Full stop.

George Blot
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George Blot

Several people btl have said that wtc 7 was the target of ua-93. Actually, that has to be the case: if 911 was false-flag, the conspirators would need 93 there because otherwise they have no way of faking 7’s destruction. But 93 was near Washington, not New York, and heading to Washington, not New York. This is a logical contradiction in the sceptics’ case, not a point about “why or when explosives were planted”. And as for your general warning against “speculating about imponderables”: no accepted narrative about historical events has ever been overturned by people saying it’s wrong but… Read more »

GeorgeBlot
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GeorgeBlot

Why would conspirators, already having pulled off an incredably elaborate, audacious, and risky false-flag, jeopardise it all with a third controlled demolition in wtc 7?

candideschmyles
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There are several reasons they wanted WTC7 completely destroyed which you should research for yourself. The question you ask you should be asking yourself.

ttshasta
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ttshasta

Maybe the plane that was supposed to hit it ” crashed in Pennsylvania”, or as Rumsfeld mistakenly (? slip?) said ” was shot down”.
I’ve wondered about that too.
If the let’s roll passengers did stop the hijack and the building was already wired with explosives, then what to do?

Maggie
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Maggie

Because WTC7 housed ALL the dirt on the conspirators and the rest of the criminal fraternities in the Government. Quite frankly they counted on the sheep not noticing and believing everything they saw on TV. And lets face if 17 years later, despite oceans upon oceans of evidence, the sheep continue to graze. Looking up only briefly to get their fifteen minutes brainwash. Simply open this link and see who gained from this building collapsing? Clue – it wasn’t the investigating agencies, but THOSE WHO WERE BEING INVESTIGATED. http://www.wtc7.net/background.html One question – Giuliani had a specially $15 million secure bunker… Read more »

flaxgirl
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We make the mistake of assuming that the power elite try to stamp out the truth everywhere they possibly can as if the truth, to them, is like a fire about to take control and they fear it. No, they don’t and that is not how they work. Because of their immense power and the magic of propaganda and because only a small percentage of the population engages in critical thinking they can use the “truth” to better control how they propagandise us. For 9/11 they had a special propaganda campaign just for us – the critical thinkers. What is… Read more »

Ken Cabeen
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Ken Cabeen

That calls for speculation. The fact is WTCs 1, 2, and 7 were obviously controlled demolitions. Maybe 7 was supposed to go down under the cover of the cloud of one of the Twins’ collapses and something went wrong. Who knows? Many questions could be answered with a real investigation.

milosevic
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milosevic

Maybe 7 was supposed to go down under the cover of the cloud of one of the Twins’ collapses and something went wrong. Who knows? As suggested above, what went wrong was that the airplane that was scheduled to meet with WTC-7 (almost certainly UA-93) missed its appointment, leaving the event organizers unsure what to do. At about 5pm that afternoon, having failed to come up with any other plan, they decided that the preinstalled demolition explosives in WTC-7 could not be left to be discovered, and blew it up without benefit of airplane, hoping that nobody would notice anything… Read more »

asldkfj
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asldkfj

Well apparently the “risk” hasn’t been all that significant since the masses still align, as do you, with the most fantastical conspiracy theory of them all. Have any other truther bashing cliches to toss at us?

WdIN
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WdIN

It was already wired up read to blow, The Shanksville aircraft was probably supposed to hit it.

milosevic
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milosevic

This is surely, by far the most likely explanation.

Hugh O'Neill
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Hugh O'Neill

Once again, it is not for us who question the official version to provide an alternative explanation. Who knows the truth? But what we do know, is that WTC7 came down as if in a controlled demolition, and there is overwhelming evidence to substantiate that observation. However, if you really wish to speculate, perhaps the aircraft that was supposed to bring down WTC7 missed its rendezvous. Suddenly, one is left with a building which is wired to implode. This incriminating evidence would bring the whole conspiracy down like a house of cards. It would be like audio recordings of the… Read more »

okulo
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okulo

As you say, it is not for those who question the official version to provide an alternative explanation; demanding alternate theories is a trap and attempting to provide them is a foolish endeavour. Having been a skeptic of the official story since it happened, I have seen many groups and campaigns fragment over alternative theories which somehow possess people’s egos. And from the outset, it seemed pretty clear that if some theories were not being proposed by agents provocateur, they were certainly having their flames fanned for the purpose of division and as ever, the real truth lies hidden in… Read more »

Rhisiart Gwilym
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Rhisiart Gwilym

Right okulo! Exactly the critical point that I’m making just above in my reply to flaxgirl – especially your last line. The initial 2.25 seconds of freefall of WTC7, >>on its own<<, is enough to demand a proper enquiry – which has never yet been done.

flaxgirl
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No more incriminating evidence needs to be supplied than already is – it’s absolutely overwhelming. But all you need is the undisputed 2.25 seconds of free fall acceleration in the collapse of WTC-7. That is all you need. Only controlled demolition can account for those 2.25 seconds. There are many other single pieces of evidence that all on their own prove that 9/11 was an inside conspiracy too. While many people argue that it couldn’t have been an inside conspiracy because the US government and its many co-conspirators and collaborators couldn’t pull it off, it’s a ludicrous argument. I think… Read more »

flaxgirl
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However, while no more incriminating evidence needs to be supplied, there is investigation lacking into a crucial aspect of 9/11: the claim that 3,000 people died and 6,000 were injured on 9/11.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks). This claim is only supported by: statements by media, government and others; testimony by those claiming that loved ones or colleagues died; funerals and inscriptions on memorials. The claim is not supported at all by the photographic evidence which, in fact, tends to contradict the claim. Nor is it supported by data in the Social Security Death Index. https://www.scribd.com/doc/37270708/CNN-9-11-Memorial-Victims-SSA-Death-Index-Cross-Reference Enormous effort has been put into other claims made… Read more »

Rhisiart Gwilym
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Rhisiart Gwilym

Plenty of conclusive proofs of controlled demolition, and therefore – inescapably – a false-flag inside job. Yes true. But then: no planes and no mass deaths. No, that’s pretty certainly false. Really weird mix of hard realism and complete – apparent – delusion, flaxgirl. Odd, that. The 11/9 truth-seeking movement has been bedevilled with ‘truth-seekers’ promoting exotic hypotheses such as ‘all done with CGI’ and ‘directed energy weapons’ (whatever they’re supposed to be; show an example, perhaps?). These inputs have served very well the purposes of those who seek to maintain the official cospithirry – to the point where many… Read more »

Maggie
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Maggie

@Rhisiart Gwilaim There were NO passenger planes, but there were remote controlled missiles. Please open this link and READ everything. http://serendipity.li/wot/plissken.htm You will not be able to open the links In the article though (I have tried) because I believe the CIA got there first and blocked them. But there is enough information there to convince even those with the brain of a mouse. And the information which is TRUE, can be gotten from other sources, it’s just that we have to work for it instead of it being done for us as in this article. NOTE FROM ADMIN –… Read more »

Rhisiart Gwilym
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Rhisiart Gwilym

Maggie, I agree with admin’s insistence that you and flaxgirl, and everyone, must be free to pursue relatively irrelevant lines of enquiry without being witchhunted for it. But I must also stick with my original decision, made years ago, to just not allow myself to be sucked into such endless irrelevancies. As Mulga pointed out just above, this a Sunstein Gambit. Absolutely to be ignored for the deceitful stuff that it is. Not that I mean to imply that you or flaxgirl are trying to deceive. But your passionate engagement in irrelevant lines of debate is grade-A grist to the… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

There were NO passenger planes, but there were remote controlled missiles. It seems much more likely that remote-controlled passenger planes were used, because that’s what’s on the videos, and that’s what tens of thousands of people saw with their own eyes, in the case of the WTC-2 hit. The flight crew and passengers could have been gassed shortly after takeoff, to prevent them from interfering with the autopilots flying the aircraft to their final destination. Really, all these “no planes” claims were resolved in the negative, over a decade ago, in the case of the WTC attacks. What happened in… Read more »

flaxgirl
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The Occam’s Razor exercise is for the deaths and injuries. I haven’t yet done an exercise on the planes but why on earth do you believe in the plane crashes, Rhisiart? There isn’t any clear evidence of a single one. When an airliner crashes into a building or into the ground, the evidence of it should be clear. There is absolutely no good reason for it not be clear and in none of the four cases is it clear at all. We know it’s an inside conspiracy and that what they really did doesn’t have to be anything like the… Read more »

Rhisiart Gwilym
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Rhisiart Gwilym

Sorry fg. I made it a rule years ago not to get drawn into these exotic discussions about alleged aspects of the atrocities which are beyond scientific proof, and which only turn the truth movement in on itself, wasting its drive on endless arguments about ‘how many angels…’ As is probably the purpose of some, at least, of those who float such canards. That’s obviously a savvy assumption. Defending the lie of the official cospithirry for an extended period after the event was always – as Chris Bollyn stresses repeatedly – an essential component of the real conspirators’ overall plot.… Read more »

flaxgirl
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How I have used Occam’s Razor is as follows. I have taken 10 points for a number of events (collapse of WTC-7, Sandy Hook shooting, Manchester bombing, 3,000-dead-6,000-injured a lie) that favour the controlled demolition or “staged” hypothesis. I have issued a $5,000 challenge to those who believe the opposing hypothesis to provide their 10 points and choose, in the case of WTC-7, their own structural engineer to be the judge and, in the case of the other three, their own co-ordinator of emergency response to be the judge. Do you not think that this usage of Occam’s Razor is… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

Newton’s Second and Third Laws of Motion preclude a 200 ton airliner penetrating a 500,000 ton steel frame building.

Maybe you’d like to argue that the JFK assassination must have been faked, because the laws of physics preclude a 2g rifle bullet from penetrating Kennedy’s approximately 5kg head.

Q: How can a scientifically-illiterate “truther” be distinguished from a government “Cognitive Infiltration” shill?

A: They can’t; their practical effect is almost identical.

flaxgirl
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I’m getting a bit confused here. You’re right – I don’t understand physics so let’s leave it. Just to answer your question about what I’m trying to suggest with my question about the Mack truck and the sedan. It’s an analogy – the Mack truck is the building and the sedan is the plane. It makes no difference which is going at speed you’d still want to be in the Mack truck because of its much greater mass. This is my thesis: 9/11 was a psyop where the only thing they wanted to do for real was bring down three… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

It seems that some of the 50-calibre bullets in the video above are special armour-piercing ones, which actually DO have high-explosive in them. So that was a poor choice for illustrating my point.

Standard rifle bullets are completely inert, as a simple google search would tell you.

https://www.explainthatstuff.com/bullets.html

milosevic
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milosevic

I have no problem stating I do not understand bullets — just to say in their case it is not simply momentum. You’re quite correct that you do not understand bullets, because their effects are ENTIRELY due to momentum and kinetic energy. A rifle bullet is an inert lump of copper, steel and lead. There is nothing else involved. I think there is lots of other evidence to show that the footage of Flight 175 was faked. What, exactly, would you EXPECT to see when a large airplane crashes into a much larger skyscraper? Should it bounce off, like a… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Refer to previous answer, milosevic. I have no problem stating I do not understand bullets – just to say in their case it is not simply momentum. Of course, there are those who state that the plane had some explosive at the front that allowed it in but I think there is lots of other evidence to show that the footage of Flight 175 was faked. This is Killtown’s, How NOT to fake WTC plane crashes – youtube.com/watch?v=PueexS5PR4Y This is a comment to Mulga as the Reply button was not available on his comment. Mulga, I have issued a $5,000… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

milosevic
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milosevic

Newton’s Second and Third Laws of Motion preclude a 200 ton airliner penetrating a 500,000 ton steel frame building.

How, exactly, do they preclude this occurrence from happening?

That makes about as much sense as claiming that it’s physically impossible for a 2g rifle bullet to penetrate a 5kg pumpkin.

In other words, you have not the slightest idea what you’re talking about, and thus are exactly the sort of person that 9/11 “debunkers” like to point to when they claim that all “truthers” are idiots.

milosevic
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milosevic

An aluminum plane hitting a thick steel beam will have the same effect as steel beam being swung at the same speed and hitting the plane. It makes no difference which one is moving as to the effect on the plane and the beam. In both cases the thick steel beam will do damage to the plane and the beam will emerge relatively undamaged. Nobody claimed that it mattered which was stationary and which was moving. If aluminum was always as flimsy as you suggest, it wouldn’t be used for aircraft construction in the first place. Try swinging an aluminum… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

An airliner weighs 200 tons while the tower weighed 500,000 tons. Due to its much lower mass the plane will suffer massive deceleration when it hits the tower. It will be stopped. As I suggested, and you declined to address — By way of analogy, the rifle bullet weighs 2g while the pumpkin weighs 5kg (which is the same 1:2500 ratio as you quote). Due to its much lower mass, the bullet will suffer massive deceleration when it hits the pumpkin. It will be stopped. Or maybe not. Or do you claim that different laws of physics apply to bullets… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Actually, I am an idiot, you’re right, at least, partly, milosevic. I need to forget Newton’s second law – what I say is rubbish and really applies to the third law – and just stick with the third law. That does it all on its own.

flaxgirl
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At least give me a chance to answer, milosevic, before making pronouncements about my level of understanding. It’s true my understanding of physics is virtually non-existent but I think Newton’s Second and Third Laws of Motion in relation to the alleged crash of Flight 175 are not too difficult to grasp. The second law The acceleration of an object is dependent upon two variables – the net force acting upon the object and the mass of the object. The acceleration of an object depends directly upon the net force acting upon the object, and inversely upon the mass of the… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

That’s ‘flaxgirl’s’ role-to discredit all the rational theories about what really occurred on 9/11 with her ludicrous swill. Guilt by association. Straight outa Cass Sunstein’s play-book.

candideschmyles
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No.

flaxgirl
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I guess you didn’t look at my Occam’s Razor exercise, Rhisiart. Please do and then let me know what you think it’s defects are.

candideschmyles
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Flaxgirl, I am sorry but I have to agree with RG. I did read your occams razor piece. The only bit of it that was compelling enough to follow through on was the social security records. However even the verification of that would be extremely difficult, time consuming and require access to files I am unlikely to find. Your assertion of Photoshop being widely used in the pictures you show whilst not impossible is speculative and without anything other than opinion to validate it. What you write is far more indicative of an unchecked propensity to confirmation bias than evidence… Read more »

flaxgirl
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I’m truly at a loss to understand the criticism of my claims of doctoring. When a person has their arm around someone they don’t stick it in the air and as we all see people’s bodies all the time we have a sense of how long people’s arms are. It is not so much the “doctoring” but what the person is doing and how long their arm is that I’m talking about. I don’t think it requires expert analysis. Do you not think that Bobby McIlvaine’s left arm is simply too short? Or do you think that you need to… Read more »

candideschmyles
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I feel for you and it is not without some irony that when I make such a case, putting the dampener on someone else’s passion, it usually comes back to bite me. After posting I watched the video by the young video effects specialist and it reminded me that I had seen it and other related analysis years ago that make compelling evidence for a no-planes theory. Likewise your Occams Razor may indeed be a speculation on a very important line of enquiry. So why don’t you use the $5k to obtain high quality copies of the photographs and have… Read more »

flaxgirl
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Thanks, Candide. That’s not a bad idea at all – to fund some investigation. As I say in another comment, a truther who believes in the dead and injured claim is attempting to respond to my challenge so it will be interesting to see if he comes up with anything. He might prove my hypothesis completely wrong. Assuming he doesn’t, after he gets back to me I may well think about funding some investigation. I am mystified by what happened to Barbara Olson, passenger on the Pentagon flight, media personality and wife of former Solicitor-General Ted Olson. Where is she… Read more »

Graham Hooper
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Graham Hooper

Because of The Information Held in that Building .an Enquiry into a Big Financial Scam. All records Lost. or destroyed. A Black Fire Chief was in Building 7 to check on the Small Fire .He said in an Interview to get the hell out of There The Building is about to be “Pulled” he said in the interview as i Ran out the front Doors i Heard Boom Boom Boom as the Explosions went off and the Building came down ..The Fire Chief was ” Killed” days later in a Car “Accident” So he could Not Appear in Court to… Read more »

Thomas Turk
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Thomas Turk

Consider a flimsy aluminum tube, with OBL’s L pilot in the hot seat, going at full speed, hits a massive box steel girder reinforced building at an acute angle. Instead of bouncing off like a mosquito off a net, it slices through like a hot knife into butter. No conspiracy here.. just a clever OBL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek-Q0T9wK2g

Also.. no one has yet explained how the debris was cleared away in 4 hours overnight when it should have taken up to 5years.

Schlüter
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See also:
“A Sad Anniversary: 17 Years Since Nine Eleven and a Sign on the Wall”: https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2018/09/12/a-sad-anniversary-17-years-since-nine-eleven-and-a-sign-on-the-wall/
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