“9/11 Unmasked” – update & reminder to READ THIS BOOK

Catte

We’re returning to 9/11 this Sunday, partly because it’s still being debated BTL on our various 9/11 threads, and partly because – 9/11 matters, maybe more than any other single issue of the 21st century. What we are noticing is the same issues being raised again and again in comments and in emails we receive. Over and over we are told the government has explained what happened that day in NYC, that it was “the planes”, or “the fires”.

Repeatedly we are confronted by people who simply do not realise they have been conned – because the government has NOT explained what happened that day, nor has it even claimed to do so in scientific terms. What it has done, through its commissions and reports, is fudge and evade and elide on a scale so massive it’s hard to comprehend. It’s pulled a bait and switch on all of us. Claiming to offer proof and evidence and solid science, while in actuality it offers only guesswork, assumptions and weasel words.

With this in mind, we continue to recommend the new book 9/11 Unmasked for doing what NIST and the 911 Commission signally failed to do, in its scholarly presentation of the best evidence for what really happened that day.

As our readers may recall this book seemed to be going through some major availability issues on Amazon when it was first released (see also HERE). But our latest word from the authors and publishers last week is that it is shipping.

However we do note the shipping/availability dates continue to be delayed (Amazon.com is saying the book will be available “after October 16”, Amazon UK and Amazon.fr both say it “usually ships in 1-2 months”).

We understand the publishers have suggested this apparently strange situation may simply be due to high demand and stocks running out very quickly. We hope this is indeed the case!

As before, do please send us your experiences of trying to obtain this book through Amazon, whether successful or not!

You can also obtain it directly from the publisher HERE.

On a related note, we’re happy to say that, with the kind assistance of Graeme MacQueen, Kevin Ryan and others prominent in the 9/11 truth movement we’re going to be adding a 9/11 resources page on OffG in the next few weeks, which we hope will help our readers get information on the key issues surrounding the events of September 11, and avoid the endless and distracting diversionary pseudo-debates about long-debunked or irrelevant issues. Look out for our new section later this month.

In the meantime here is some Sunday viewing we think provide good information on some of the physics-related questions that have been discussed quite a lot BTL. We highly recommend exploring them when you have the time:


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Argentomagus
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Argentomagus

Wrt trying to find the book, I contacted Amazon to query their “Normally available in one or two months” statement. Their reply was suitably vague and blamed the supplier (aka the publisher) of the book for being unable to supply. I sent a message to Waterstones asking why the book was not in their catalogue – one week later still no reply. I searched Blackwells for the title – no luck. It appears to have disappeared. I visited the website of Interbooks, the publisher. Their cost for “shipping overseas” is $45 – just for the shipping! I challenged this and… Read more »

Alan M
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Alan M

FOLLOW-UP to mine a few posts down – This just to let you and all other interested would-be readers that my copy of ‘9/11 Unmasked’ arrived yesterday from Amazon US not unreasonably priced and well ahead of schedule.

I’m posting this because I was, I think, not alone in smelling a rat or fish here, but am now happy to report that my suspicions appear to be unfounded.

The truth IS out there!…

Admin
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Admin

Thanks for letting us know. We’re passing all the comments about availability on to the authors

Raskolnikov
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Raskolnikov

I thought I’d post an update too: I have now ordered a copy of “9/11 Unmasked” from Blackwells in Oxford and it is supposed to be arriving between next Thursday and Saturday (18th to 20th October), which tallies with the Amazon.com line on the stock coming in. The price was the regular £11.28 with £2.80 shipping (I’m in the UK). I’m assuming it being Blackwells, a very reputable bookseller, they won’t be wasting my time like the last two orders I made. I will post an update if and when it arrives. Well done OffG again for keeping the heat… Read more »

Raskolnikov
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Raskolnikov

My order with Blackwells was cancelled after one day with the nonsensical reason that “the supplier was out of stock and we require all out Marketplace sellers to maintain correct stock” (I’m paraphrasing). This makes no sense as the book was not described as in stock when I ordered it; they said it would be coming on Oct 14th and then delivered between the 15th and 18th.

This is the THIRD time I’ve ordered this book and had the order cancelled. It’s hard to avoid the conclusion Amazon.co.uk is trying to prevent people getting hold of this book.

Alan M
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Alan M

STOP PRESS – ordered yesterday from Amazon US. SHIPPED moments ago to UK. About £18 in delivery.

Admin
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Thanks Alan – good to know

leruscino
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Quote by Michael Rivero. “Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda… Read more »

BroSJ
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BroSJ

May I say thank you to OffGuardian and to Catte for the truly outstanding coverage of 9/11 you have been offering. It’s so rare to see a site that is open to debate on these issues while also maintaining a high standard of discussion and general politeness.

Thanks also due to the contributors in the comments, for being both informed and tolerant

Long may it continue

Pained Scientist
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Pained Scientist

Seconded. Their coverage has been high end since I started reading the site in 2016. There was a useful idiot called Jerome who used to frequent at that time, running from here to one of the “skeptics” forums to get ammo and back again. It was notable that none of his pals on that forum ever dared to venture here, though they did keep egging Jerome on to shove his dumb head over the parapet. He took a lot of damage, you can say that for him.

harry stotle
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harry stotle

Its hard to imagine 9/11 happening if a culture of accountability existed following a long line of US atrocities, or if there was at least a MSM willing to expose the true motives of a political system in thrall to ‘full spectrum dominance’ (including expenditure of god knows how many trillions on military hardware). The kind of asymmetrical power routinely exercised (ever since Hiroshima) has now become so common place, so run of the mill, that it has embedded itself as the normal state affairs in the minds of most western observers. Take Viet Nam – America created a false… Read more »

axisofoil
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It has been said multiple times here that greed is the real villain. With that thought in mind, the following film is a reminder of just how indifferent those with plundered fortunes are. I doubt they care what we think about 9/11. If we didn’t like it, i’m sure they will give us a better one next time They are actually quite generous,

https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/spider-web-britain-second-empire/

axisofoil
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Gary Weglarz
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Gary Weglarz

The unavailability of the 9/11 book in question so far seems to be a repeat of what happened to “Journalists for Hire: How the CIA Buys the News” – by Dr. Udo Ulfkotte Ph.D. That book was a best seller in Germany, somehow took several years to get translated into English, and then its publication in the U.S. was postponed repeatedly. As of today it has NEVER been available in the U.S. to date. This is quite obviously a case of open censorship of material deemed unacceptable to Western power elites clinging to power through endless war and endless lies.… Read more »

axisofoil
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milosevic
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milosevic

mog
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Just wanted to voice some endorsement for the work of Ryan Dawson. He makes no bones about a degree of disillusionment with regards the ‘9/11 Truth Movement’.
I have reluctantly come to agree with him : that there has been the same taboo in operation around the most obvious culprits of 9/11, as around many other subjects.
This is, ultimately why the truth has not emerged more widely, I would say.
Check his work if you haven’t already.

mog
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As a case in point, Tom Secker (whose work I generally admire) recently wrote a summary of nine unanswered questions about 9/11. https://medium.com/@tomsecker/the-9-most-important-questions-about-9-11-that-remain-unanswered-13d3d7019eff He writes: Numerous conspiracy theorists have tried to build a case that global Jewry — sorry, I mean ‘Israel’ — were behind the attacks. This has invariably involved recycling the same three talking points about dancing Israelis, one Fox News special that for some reason they trust every word of, and complaining that ‘if you bring up Israel you get called an anti-semite’. As though categorising people on the basis of their attitudes and beliefs is fine the rest of the… Read more »

paulcarline
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No hijackers. No hijacked planes. No involvement by Osama x and ObL was not captured/ killed by a US Navy Seal team and given a ‘traditional’ burial at sea. It is reliably reported that he died in December 2001. All but one of the Navy Seals team died in a very suspicious helicopter crash soon after their ‘heroic’ mission. It was reported recently that Bibi Netanyahu stated that he “knew 9/11 was ‘on’ as early as 1995”. These things are years in the planning. There is plenty of evidence, especially in USA, for the ‘predictive programming’ of 9/11 – for… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

There is plenty of evidence, especially in USA, for the ‘predictive programming’ of 9/11 – for example in an episode of The Simpsons.

https://www.rapmusicguide.com/blog/the-coup-party-music-911-a-decade-later/

rilme
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rilme

It was the USA that spent billions of dollars in Afghanistan in the 1970s and 80s changing the government and boosting the drug trade. It was the USA that spent hundreds of millions more in the remains of Yugoslavia, running weapons and bombing people. Dov Zakheim was all over this. I’m not complaining about his attitudes, beliefs, religion, or genetic ancestry: it’s his actions that concern me.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Telling the truth concerning 9/11 would be utterly ‘antisemitic’, don’t you know.

vexarb
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vexarb

Mulga: “Telling the truth concerning 9/11 would be utterly ‘antisemitic’,…”

But only because that False Flag Atrocity has Anglo Zio Capitalist and Israeli fingerprints all over it.

vexarb
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vexarb

“Being a friend of Israel is dangerous” — with apologies to Kissinger, who said, Being a friend of the U$A is dangerous. Those two rogue regimes deserve one another. But I pity their people.

bevin
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bevin

” There must be one single thing around which we can all rally. 9/11, like no other event, was an insult to our intelligence and a slap in our face. ” I have every sympathy with, and much admiration for, the brave souls who persist in the search for truth in this matter. However the population shocked out of apathy or conformism by the events on 9/11 and the subsequent political use of those events is not world wide and is declining as a new generation comes of age- a generation which, among other things, has never shared the delusions… Read more »

BroSJ
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BroSJ

Are you suggesting that because this particular lie may be perceived positively by some it should be allowed to stand?

Red Tick Alert
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Red Tick Alert

Just a head’s up – allegedly in razzle and dazzle of that bloke being elected in the US supreme court; the senate have overwhelmingly voted to release the 9/11 information; whether it get’s further, no-one knows.

Strangely enough there has been little information on this is the MSM.

This is from some Israeli rag. – https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/252774

wardropper
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We can’t afford to be naive here. Any “information” on 9/11 released through official channels has had a LOT of time to be microscopically examined for anything remotely resembling government complicity in the crime of the millennium. There’s no reason to imagine that the information which people like Snowden, Assange and Manning have gathered will ever come to light through those official channels. That’s why most of us here don’t get our news from the New York Times, the WaPo, the HuffPo, the BBC or from Sky. Heck, they don’t even care whether we know the truth or not. They… Read more »

MICHAEL LEIGH
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MICHAEL LEIGH

This is ” stale attempt ‘ to influence all participating in the future mi-trials of Saudi Arabia in the USA. Do note the source of your own comment, Red Tick Alert !

mog
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@Fair dinkum It is no stupid point that you raise. However… My experience was one of seeing an opening (a small opening) at the beginning of the 90s when there was a sense of the need for urgent action to address the issues of poverty, conflict, environmental detruction etc. that you mention. Throughout that following decade there were two trends : one was the growing evasion and double standards of capitalist governments combined with a well marketed culture of denial; the other was a genuine groundswell of protest demanding radical change which enveloped the world and took the demand to… Read more »

Mary
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Mary

Tried to buy direct from publisher. Got a notice that they are having problems with their e-commerce.

Rhisiart Gwilym
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Rhisiart Gwilym

Also trying to buy a batch of several copies from the publisher. So far, no response at all, after about ten days.

JaneF
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JaneF

Anyone surprised? NSA/CIA in action…

Admin
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Admin

It was most likely just a website glitch. They have experienced no problems previously as far as we know

Kenneth Lindemere
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Kenneth Lindemere

Just tried amazon.ca and got the message “Not in stock; order now and we’ll deliver when available”.

JaneF
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JaneF

Interesting about Amazon “availability”… I purchased copies directly from the publisher and got them in days. Also, not sure if you have put out this link, but there is a website called architects and engineers for 9/11 truth that has been working on exposing this issue since 2011 and has brought a case in NY Federal Court on behalf of family survivors…www.ae911trhth.org

JaneF
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JaneF
auntiebuna
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I just tried this link and got an error message that the site is not available. I just tried to purchase the book “9/11 Unmasked” directly onto my Kindle and got “0 titles found. You can do another search or go to storefront to browse for titles”. Is Amazon dragging their feet on this?
BTW I am in the Netherlands so maybe we’re not getting it yet over here.

vexarb
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vexarb

TantieBuna, the Link to Architectn and Engineers for 911 Truth is operating now

http://www.ae911truth.org../

Interesting new video, A Government Researcher Speaks Out. Had his eyes opened as late as June 2016, by a concerned colleague. Is now furious with the Bush regime for pulling the wool over his eyes. Despite his being a highly intelligent man. But now he is especially furious with himself for having been such a high IQ dupe.

“Be good, Sweet Maid, and let who will be clever.”

milosevic
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milosevic

https://www.ae911truth.org/

Stand for the Truth: A Government Researcher Speaks Out

auntiebuna
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Just tried to order the book using the authors’ names and found several titles by David Ray Griffin that look really good. A couple of them are about 9/11 but this particular title is absent.

axisofoil
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I got the same error message. There are many other sights which display this message also. The following clip from Senator Susan Collins is set to the point where she says something relevant to our current dilemma.If this clip starts at the beginning for some reason, go forward to 40.47

axisofoil
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axisofoil
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Starvation, malnutrition, poverty, social inequality, global warming, mass extinctions, rule by psychopaths, media malfeasance ….….we could all go on and on. There is no end. There must be one single thing around which we can all rally. 9/11, like no other event, was an insult to our intelligence and a slap in our face. It is the single stand out event that clearly shows that we are thought to be stupid and irrelevant and will simply move on with other distractions. This hasn’t happened. The major difference with this event is that there are ethical, incorruptible and intelligent people who… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

9/11, which is just a manifestation of Zionazi control of the West, the USA and the ‘Five Eyes’ in particular, must come second to anthropogenic climate destabilisation and the ecological collapse of the planet’s life support systems. The refusal of the ruling global psychopaths to cease destroying Life on Earth and continue pursuing neoplastic growth and the lust for wealth and power, instead, is the greatest ever crime and the greatest Evil possible to imagine.

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

It may come as a surprise to many that the AGW hoax is one of the major drivers behind the false flag terrorism. Governments, including the UK, get their wrists slapped with so-called terrorism events, for dragging their feet on the AGW issue among many others … For example, the Jo Cox script was predicated principally on the UK’s EU Referendum and also importantly, the Betrayal meme in that narrative referenced Michael Fallon’s “promise” to send substantial numbers of UK troops to the Russian borders. He reneged. Perfidious Albion. The Sousse event involcing UK holidaymakers in Syria, was because the… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

When EVERY single National Academy of Sciences, and ALL the scientific societies on Earth, and 99% of actively publishing climate scientists all concur with the anthropogenic climate destabilisation theory, and the evidence from reality of rapid climate destabilisation eg the melting of montane glaciers, Arctic summer sea ice, permafrost, and the Greenland and Antarctic ice-caps, and a string of record global average temperatures (for just a small sample) is so very great, to still be decrying that grim reality as a ‘hoax’ is plainly, in my opinion, a sign of some deep mental, psychological an/or spiritual disease. One that apparently… Read more »

Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

Mulga Mumblebrain Your attachment to the AGW hoax is noted. “When EVERY single National Academy of Sciences, and ALL the scientific societies on Earth, and 99% of actively publishing climate scientists all concur with the anthropogenic climate destabilisation theory, and the evidence from reality of rapid climate destabilisation eg the melting of montane glaciers, Arctic summer sea ice, permafrost, and the Greenland and Antarctic ice-caps, and a string of record global average temperatures (for just a small sample) is so very great, to still be decrying that grim reality as a ‘hoax’ is plainly, in my opinion, a sign of… Read more »

manfromatlan
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I don’t think you need to be a scientist to accept that man made activity contributes to climate change. Stands to reason I think, and if some feel more passionately about it than others, power to them 🙂

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

This site, and ‘Admin’ in particular, ARE hard-core anthropogenic climate destabilisation denialists. There is no getting around it. And in the context of the greatest ever threat to human existence, that is, in my firm opinion, despicable. Just why they do this, is beyond me. Some mixture of arrogance, ignorance and paranoia I imagine.

Admin
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Admin

Admin is a function not an individual! Several people use the Admin ID. None of us are “deniers”. You seem unhinged. Calm down

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

EVERY comment regarding anthropogenic climate destabilisation that I have seen under the title ‘Admin’, has supported the mendacious, anti-scientific and omnicidal denialist position.

axisofoil
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Glad to know that the multiple up and down voting situation is under control. I am also guilty of this. Sometimes, not remembering if I had already voted.Sometimes remembering quite well. Also wondering if multiple votes are really registered at the other end. This has been a curious feature of this site.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Quite why you, and other denialists, are compelled to lie, misrepresent and distort in order to prevent humanity from avoiding auto-genocide is the real question that needs to be answered. The combination of arrogance and stupidity with ideological fanaticism is particularly pernicious at all times, but when it is being mobilised to destroy humanity it becomes simply diabolical.

PSJ
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PSJ

Just a couple of points there Mulga. [1] That’s not how science works. It’s not about consensus it’s about data. Makes no difference if 100% of scientists all agree about something, if the data doesn’t support it, it’s wrong. [2] The claim of overwhelming consensus is inaccurate. Look at the weasel-words “actively published.” Sure, ok, but have you tried getting a paper published that questions the CAGW hypothesis? I’m not a climate scientist but I have friends who are and they can tell you it is very very difficult to get through the review process right now, no matter how… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Your point 1 is typical hard Right idiocy. It certainly DOES matter that the VAST majority of uncorrupted climate scientists concur with the theory and the observations. Point 2 is a hard Right LIE. And the data most certainly does confirm the theory. And Point 3 is conspiracist Rightwing bulldust. An entire invention. I doubt that Exxon would pay you a penny-your fanatic Rightwing ideology, and detestation of environmentalism, and of future generations, is plain enough.

PSJ
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PSJ

Just want to add a quick addendum: I doubt many of the informed “skeptics” about manmade climate change would assert there was NO human involvement in current climate. Increase in CO2 may well be forcing the warming we saw in the late 20th C and human beings may well be responsible for that. What most climate “skeptics” question is [a] the lack of public acknowledgement of the (privately acknowledged) manifold uncertainties and gaps in our understanding of how climate works that make any certitudes about the extent of our involvement premature at best. [b] the unscientific suppression of data that… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

Your a) is, as usual, simply wrong. We know much more about how the climate works than ever, and certainly enough to accurately predict our fate. And those predictions ARE COMING TRUE, as the observations show. In the context of the greatest threat to human existence ever, that makes the denialists’ fraudulent demands for more ‘certainty’, morally insane and wicked. Point b) is simply, yet again, a LIE. There has been NO ‘suppression’ of ANY science that would disprove the theory. Point c) is another untruth. The data has not been ‘manipulated’, save by the political process of the IPCC… Read more »

PSJ
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PSJ

Wow. You’re presuming to know quite a lot about me and to use ad hominem arguments based on your assumptions in place of rational debate. [1a] I’m not “hard Right” by any definition. I used be a Republican. Not now. I support most environmental initiatives, especially clean energy, and have devoted many years to what they call “LENR” research, which you can look up if interested. [1b] Consensus is simply NOT what science is about. Science is about data. When the consensus among scientists was that ball lightening did not exist this did not change the fact that it did… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

Consider writing an article about the reasons for scepticism of AGW, and how discussion of such is suppressed, with internet references which can be checked, and submit it for publication on this website.

Admin
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Admin

PSJ was perfectly polite to you. Try to return the favor and discuss the subject without recourse to dismissive ad hom. That goes for Mark Gobell too. Above all, please try to bear in mind people can have different opinions from yours without necessarily being liars, fools, right wing ideologues or “Zionazis”.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

You have consistently shown, with your support of anthropogenic climate destabilisation denialists, that you are quite sanguine concerning the coming climate Holocaust. I rather prefer, finding it morally clearly superior, to treat those who peddle lies and disinformation regarding the greatest catastrophe ever to have threatened human existence, with the contempt they so truly deserve. Do you really think it redounds to this site’s credit that climate destabilisation denialists, of the most banal and odious kind, are made welcome here?

Antonyl
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Antonyl

Mulga has consistently shown that he thumbs up his own comments xx times while thumbing down those he doesn’t agree with xx times. He fiddles with “data” to get the pre-desired result.

The Graun blocked this cheating years ago. I hope Off-Guardian can find that software (cheaply!) too.

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

And I TELL you-I DID NOT. Are you lying, or are you not in control of your own operation?

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

I have NEVER up-voted myself. And how would you know? I have multi down-voted, mostly one at a time, garbage like yours, at times.

Admin
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Admin

we’ve just done it as of this very hour

Admin
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Admin

Please don’t multi-upvote your own comments in future

Mulga Mumblebrain
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Mulga Mumblebrain

I DID NOT ‘multi up-vote’ my comments. Perhaps there are more readers of this site than your denialist allies and admirers.

Admin
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Admin

You DID multi up-vote your comment.

S Gibbons
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S Gibbons

I concur with your penultimate paragraph. The official 9/11 explanation may not be perfect but it’s the most comprehensive offered so far, and that’s probably why it has consensus support.

May I ask if “PSJ” had anything to do with authoring the Harrit et al paper?

milosevic
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milosevic

The official 9/11 explanation may not be perfect but it’s the most comprehensive offered so far, and that’s probably why it has consensus support.

PSJ
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PSJ

“May I ask if “PSJ” had anything to do with authoring the Harrit et al paper?”

You may, and no, I didn’t! But of course I disagree that the official explanation for 9/11 is “the most comprehensive so far.” It does not even try to address the major elements such as acceleration at free fall, the deformation and sulfidation of the steel and the documented presence of molten metal!

How can anyone describe omissions such as these as “comprehensive”?

Thomas
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Thomas

Thanks for that clarification that you are not involved in the thermite paper. I too thought you may have been a certain high profile thermite proponent being quietly modest about your identity.

The molten metal claim is a scam to hide the presence of DEW technology. The “sulfidated” steel is a by product of that technology. If you have a science background why not check that out.

PSJ
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PSJ

Nonsense. The presence of molten metal is robustly supported both by eye witness testimony and physical evidence.

Those who believe DEWs were involved are required to show their data and explain why their model fits the observed effects better than that of nanothermite/RDX. Until they do there is nothing more to be said on that topic

manfromatlan
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“DEW technology” is pretty vague. Can you specify which one you’re referring to, or better still, post an argument refuting the Thermate hypothesis?

Rhisiart Gwilym
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Rhisiart Gwilym

You been forgetting to take your medications, Mark?

Red Tick Alert
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Red Tick Alert
Fair dinkum
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Fair dinkum

‘it matters more than any other single issue’ ?
You’ve got to be kidding Catte.
Starvation, malnutrition, poverty, social inequality, global warming, mass extinctions, rule by psychopaths, media malfeasance, the MIC, just to name a few.
Truth and Justice on these ‘issues’ should come first.

proftonyhall
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Social justice issues, environmental issue… yes, all hugely important. But all our governments have used 9/11 to give priority to the ongoing Global War on Terror, a priority which gives justification to military invasion, enrichment of military contractors, mercenary army scams (ie al-Qaeda and DAESH) police state/surveillance state invasions of citizens rights, torture, rendition, etc etc etc. The rule by psychopaths is guaranteed as long as those who designed and implemented and continue to carry out the ongoing crime through a vast media cover-up are kept in power. The only way to oppose the empire of illusion and lies about… Read more »

summitflyer
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summitflyer

Indeed .Well said .

Catte
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Catte

No, FD, I’m not kidding. The events of 9/11 have been the “catalyst” for the current wars in the ME, the rise of al Qaeda and ISIS, the assault on Russia, the erosion of free speech throughout the western world, the rise of liberal-fascism, the destruction of the US constitution – and more. Millions are dead who would not have died if not for the events of that day, millions more are suffering physical or psychological privation as a direct or indirect result. And as we gradually lose our rights to speak out we can’t protest the other injustices. I… Read more »

milosevic
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milosevic

The events of 9/11 have been the “catalyst” for the current wars in the ME, the rise of al Qaeda and ISIS, the assault on Russia, the erosion of free speech throughout the western world, the rise of liberal-fascism, the destruction of the US constitution – and more.

from the horse’s mouth:

the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.

Project for the New American Century — REBUILDING AMERICA’S DEFENSES — Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century, page 51

Simon Hodges
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Hi Catte I have been struggling with this concept of ‘liberal fascism’ for some time now. I have found that you can critique neoliberalism and neoconservatism and people accept it but as soon as you criticise ‘liberalism’ as such they – feel its a personal attack and react very badly. I would think of myself as being fairly liberal in that I believe in freedom of speech, civil liberties, a free and open media and a general diversity of political views that arise from all of our unique experiences and social and historical contexts. Liberalism at its core, should always… Read more »

axisofoil
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What exactly does this have to do with 9/11?

Simon Hodges
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Also it should be noted that this was a very personal reply to Catte concerning the problematic notion of ‘Liberal Fascism’ and not 9/11 specifically. But thank you for taking the neocon trouble to police all private correspondences.

axisofoil
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Private?

Simon Hodges
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You were not welcome nor shall you ever be.

Admin
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Admin

It wasn’t a private message Simon, it was on a comment thread. If you’d like to message Catte privately you’re welcome to do so. However this discussion isn’t fruitful so shall we close it and move on?

Simon Hodges
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Dear Admin

I have no idea as a newbie and obviously idiot in your view as to what “please don’t prolong this OT convo any longer, ok” actually means.

Admin
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Admin

You’re welcome to discuss the articles here or related topics but not more off-topic quarrelling with either the admin staff or other commenters. Don’t reply to this.

Simon Hodges
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“However this discussion isn’t fruitful so shall we close it and move on?” How very totalitarian of you.

Simon Hodges
Reader

If I knew how to message Catte that might be useful and I might have done that from the start.

Admin
Moderator
Admin

Her email is on the website – blackcatte@off-guardian.org – but please don’t prolong this OT convo any longer, ok

Simon Hodges
Reader

That all depends on what your understanding of 9/11 is and its significance in political history. I suggest that it is linked to the fall of communism but do not explain that assertion to people who do not care. Why bother reading it in the first place?

rilme
Reader
rilme

And just imagine if, IF it’s true that “israel” was part of this attack on the US, if Americans knew, this might be enough to bring justice to Palestine and peace to West Asia. And it could be disastrous for both “israelis” and Jews. It’s a big deal.

Fair dinkum
Reader
Fair dinkum

The ‘catalyst’ was, and always will be, greed.
It was a perverse plague on the 10th of September 2001, and has been ever since.
The hungry, sick and forgotten people are not interested in 911 exposes.
Global warming will not be ameliorated by your quest for truth.
No living species will be saved from extinction by the ‘unmasking’ of 911.
Save your energy for more tangible causes Catte.

axisofoil
Reader

Greed in itself has no power unless propelled by the wings of deception.

summitflyer
Reader
summitflyer

There must be a realization that we can only go forward once we accept the wrongs of yesterday.Unless one believe the story line given by the US etc.then it it becomes more like “nothing to see here folks ,move along.” There are many injustices in this world to be sure but IMHO we must focus on the big picture ,i.e. what are the main causes of these injustices .The lies and dishonesty we are being told and subjected to is good starting point and all encompassing to be sure.

Mulga Mumblebrain
Reader
Mulga Mumblebrain

The root cause of all our problems, and the reason that we face extinction through ecological collapse or thermo-nuclear war in the next few decades is the global dominance of what is euphemistically called ‘the Right’, ie the insatiably greedy, violent, misanthropic, psychopaths.

axisofoil
Reader

Behind this ‘root cause’ is an abuse of truth.

Alan M
Reader
Alan M

To quote the Donald Sutherland character in ‘JFK’ – ‘Don’t ask who…ask why’.

Greg Bacon
Reader

‘it matters more than any other single issue’ ? You’ve got to be kidding Catte. NO, she’s not kidding. The 9/11 False Flag opened the gates of Hell to many in the ME and parts of Africa. Millions killed, millions more wounded, tens of millions fleeing for their lives with nothing but what they were wearing to escape some US made and delivered Hellfire missile. 9/11 has been used as an excuse to take away our freedoms, under the guise of protecting our liberty. The Pentagon’s budget has increased by about 300% and looks like there’s no stopping the upward… Read more »

Mulga Mumblebrain
Reader
Mulga Mumblebrain

9/11 is hugely important, and might lead to human extinction through US/Zionazi aggression, but the ecological collapse of the planet’s life support system will inevitably do so if unaddressed, and the Right, the focus of Evil on Earth, utterly refuse to even acknowledge the reality of anthropogenic climate destabilisation, let alone the rest of the ecological crises.

vexarb
Reader
vexarb

Yes, thank you OffG, for standing firm with the truth while the Official Coverup crumbles away.

axisofoil
Reader

Thank you Off Guardian.