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Facts and Questions in the “MAGABomber” Case

UPDATE – It was just announced that the FBI had arrested a suspect, Cesar Sayoc – a 56 year old Floridian man. Rather predictably, he has pictures on his Facebook of Trump rallies, and his van was covered in anti-Hillary and anti-CNN stickers. However the story rolls out from this point, we should remember the initial reporting of the facts, and confused narrative threads. Because there’s a decent chance many things listed in this article will soon be memory-holed.

Kit

A photo the device mailed to CNN/John Brennan. Note the digital clock, explosives experts have said that a real bomb maker would never use one.

Two days ago, suspicious packages were allegedly delivered to the homes of George Soros, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Later that day, and into the next, more people were “targeted”: Eric Holder, John Brennan, Robert De Niro, CNN. The list is still growing.

So far, no one has claimed any credit for the packages, and none of the alleged bombs have gone off, or even got anywhere near their respective targets. Fortunately, no one has been hurt.

Despite the total silence from investigators, on the subject of blame…the media reaction was as immediate as it was predictable. Within hours social media had dubbed the incident #MAGAbomber, using the acronym of Trump’s campaign slogan (Make America Great Again) to assign blame to Trump. The corporate media were not far behind.

The Guardian has run three different opinion pieces about this, virtually identical but for the by-line, plus an anonymous editorial. They all blame Trump’s “violent rhetoric” for this “terror attack”. The Huffington Post and CNN agree. As does Alexander Soros in the New York Times (that last one is especially jarring given their short story revelling in the idea of President Trump being assassinated).

Of course, Russia has also been blamed – one pundit said he “feared this was a Russian operation” to divide America, whilst another blamed “Russian bots” for inciting hatred.

The really interesting part of this incident, though, is the level of division in the media coverage. For the first time in a really long time there is a true split in the media over the narrative of a “terrorist” attack – with many mainstream voices on the “right” calling this a false flag attack to whip up Democrat support prior to the mid-term elections next month.

The talk is so prevalent that both the Guardian and the New York Times ran articles decrying the “Far Right” for promoting “conspiracy theories”.

Whatever the truth is, and however the official narrative congeals itself into a rotten whole in the coming days, there are definitely some odd things about the situation.

Curious Anomalies

The success rate – None of the bombs went off. Not one. We’re over a dozen deep in bombs now, not one explosion.

The “movie bombs” – Some of the bombs were reported as duds, some even as fakes. This is a screen-capped quote from the New York Times:

The ISIS flag – the only publicly released picture of a “device” so far is the one addressed to “John Brenan” (sic). It seemed to have a picture of John Brennan’s face on it, alongside an ISIS flag. Although some people claim it’s not a real ISIS flag, but a pastiche. ISIS flags, real or fake, are easy to find online, so it doesn’t point to blame, and ISIS have not taken responsibility.

The postage – each alleged bomb was posted in identical packaging, a padded envelope, with 6 identical flag stamps. None of the photos released so far have appeared to carry a postmark from the US Postal Service either.

examples of USPS postmarks

The non-bomb – Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York, claimed to have received a bomb. The NYPD later revealed that was not true, he had instead been sent something “unrelated to other devices”. They never said what the item was, or how they knew it was unrelated:

Strange mistakes – several of the packages had very simple factual and/or spelling errors. John Brennan and Joe Biden had their names incorrectly spelled. The state of the return address was “FLORIDS” rather than Florida. John Brennan’s “bomb” was sent to CNN, when Brennan more often works for MSNBC.

What does all of this mean? As usual we at OffG are watching and waiting for evidence, rather than leaping to conclusions. It could be a Democratic false-flag to stir up pre-election sympathy and further demonise Trump. It could be a move to distract people from the US pulling out of the INF treaty or the increasingly bizarre Khashoggi story. My personal feeling is that this is meant for a domestic American audience rather than an international one. It doesn’t feel like it has the legs to run a great distance, but who knows?

The press reaction bears watching, though. Though pseudo-leftwing voices are currently all blaming the POTUS for creating this climate, the mention of “Russian bots” should have everyone on social media – and especially the alternate news media – on edge. This has all the hallmarks of an issue that will be used as an excuse to empower governments and corporations to “banish hate from their platforms” or something similar.

Expect a fresh rush of censorship and social-media bans in the coming weeks.

I will leave you with our now traditional list of unanswered questions:

  1. What’s the story behind Gov. Cuomo’s “non-bomb”?
  2. Why did the alleged bomber use color coded wires and digital clocks, when these are hallmarks of “movie bombs”, rather than reality?
  3. Why did the alleged bomber send the bombs in envelopes which betray the size, shape and feel of their contents, rather than cardboard boxes which would hide it?
  4. How come none of the packages appear to be postmarked? Were they delivered by private courier or by hand instead? In that case, why the stamps?
  5. Why is nobody in the press discussing the “ISIS flag” found on one the devices? Is the flag an attempt to frame to ISIS, or an honest claim of responsibility?
  6. Either way – doesn’t its presence indicate whoever made the “bomb” was fairly sure it was going to be seen, and therefore, was not going to blow up?
  7. Will the right-wing media “come around” and stop discussing the idea this was a false-flag?

Kit Knightly is co-editor of OffGuardian. The Guardian banned him from commenting. Twice. He used to write for fun, but now he's forced to out of a near-permanent sense of outrage.

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axisofoil
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How to get fired in 5 minutes…

frank
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frank

There are two deep state factions at work in the US.
One faction (happens to) support Trump, the other opposes him.

(So the faction supporting Trump is currently winning considering they got their man into office. It’s like two mafia clans fighting each other.)

Both factions have now orchestrated a false flag operation, one that supported Trump, another that opposed him (possibly as a reaction to the first).

(MAGAbomber & Pittsburgh synagogue shooting)

(I think this is more plausible than one faction playing both sides, which is also a possibility.)

Notice how both times the perpetrator was a caricature.
One was a caricature of a Trump supporter, the other was a caricature of an anti Semite, which in itself is a caricature of an anti Zionist.

Trump as usual is there to provide the comic relief by saying the death penalty would help prevent these things. First of all most of these perpetrators commit suicide. Second that is assuming these things are real in the first place. But we can all use a laugh in these bizarro-world circumstances.

Again this is speculation but I think one faction has the support of the CIA and the other of the FBI. And it is my impression that the CIA is much better (and more ruthless) at these false flag operations then the FBI. Not surprising considering it’s their core business and they have a lot of experience.

Interesting to note that social media platform Gab is being punished. I guess they didn’t play along with the social media purge of anti-establishment voices. Just another “coincidence” right?

In any case false flag season is officially open again, that much is clear. Can’t wait for the next episode. Will it be a chemical weapons attack, a school shooting, a rampaging truck? Or will they introduce new ideas? Must be hard keeping it original at this point. My money’s on Syria or Iran for the next one. Or Turkey maybe. F*ck, I give up.

Btw, does anybody believe those “migrant caravans” are not orchestrated?

axisofoil
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Caricature is the perfect word for these caricatures. This seems to be a somewhat well orchestrated but all out assault on free speech.
Interesting that on the site below it shows that until 2016 the MAGA bomber was a Democrat. This was quickly changed to Republican right after his arrest.Somebody is on top of it.

http://www.shadolsonshow.com/2018/10/26/cesar-sayoc-maga-bomber-facebook-betrays-democrat-trump-infiltrator-anti-gop-posts/

frank
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Mark Gobell
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Mark Gobell

Slightly off topic, but related :

Russ Winter at winterwatch.net has a thread on :

Observations on the Squirrel Hill Synagogue Shooting

https://www.winterwatch.net/2018/10/observations-of-the-squirrel-hill-synagogue-shooting/

MG

frank
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frank

From that article:

“We’ve seen no images of anybody resembling a human being brought out on a stretcher, nor any survivors leaving the Tree of Life Synagogue.”

Typical. We never get to see the actual dead bodies, morbid as that may be.

“As with other events of this ilk, victims were apparently declared dead at the scene, although this is not standard protocol.”

This against the law actually. Only doctors at a hospitals can declare people dead. They will try to revive victims. Policemen are not doctors.

The bio’s of those 11 victims are almost certainly faked or stolen. (This has been shown in other events.) 11 is an interesting number btw when it comes to events like these.

axisofoil
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These short interviews with my people might shed some light on our dilemma here.Maybe we’re not so bad after all. We’re just….well, listen to us here…..really.

retrospin
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retrospin

I don’t know what this might mean, but it appears that all, or nearly all of the recipients are from the “New Democratic” wing of the Democratic party, that is to say, pseudo-leftists – that is to say, fascist servants of the .001 percent.

DunGroanin
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DunGroanin

It certainly is to do with churning the news cycle.

The defeat of the neocon head choppers in Syria
The defection of Turkey to the Russian nexus there and Erdogans masterful revenge for the failed CIA/ SIS coup, by controlling the news for a week.
The failure of the Democrats to regain their traditional voter base so far and their stepford ‘candidates’.
AND the failure of the FBI bs investigation to produce even a single connection between Trump and Putin in his election – we are told to instead consider his togger based on some porn star/ sex workers recollections – great memory or do i mean what a mammary!

tutisicecream
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Clearly the US patsies are not up to speed. I mean operating out of a van with the labels on the side. Even the A Team knew anonymity was essential!

No Novichok

No bone saws

Please but pipe bombs so 1970’s – does anyone smoke them any more?

Maybe I missed a meeting, but I thought it was all chemical weapons and brutal murders these days – and all charity funded?

No?

bjd
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bjd

Uhm, did any of these parcels or their bombs actually contain, you know, whatshamycallit — explosives?

Yonatan
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Yonatan

They did contain some material that self-identified as explosive. And we know that is all you need.

milosevic
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milosevic

They were transexplosives.

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

Self-identified as explosive? Well, I guess explosiveness must be a social construct, too!

paul metcalf
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paul metcalf

how about if mario cuomo was told he was going to receive a bomb but it actually got lost but he said he received it anyway!a bit like WT7 not getting hit by a plane but they let it blow up.maybe it’s an american thang.

milosevic
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milosevic

actually, it’s a BBC thing:

grafter
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grafter

What a sick nation America has become.

ourblue
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ourblue

It seems inappropriate to use ‘sick’ as a description of the U.S.A. Terminally ill and on life support would better fit the bill.

axisofoil
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Were contagious also. And terminal. Our disease is psychopathy. I know how we spread it too. Money. It’s contaminated Please avoid our money. I know we’ll bomb you if you do, but we’ll bomb you if you don’t. Our bombs are expensive.This is how we employ many of our well paid citizens .When we pay them our money, you know what happens then. We’re on a roll. Anybody want to try to stop us? I mean…..cure us.Good luck.

franking
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franking

There is no evidence the packages went through the mail. No post marks or cancellations.

And US mail scans all packages.

If none of the packages went through the mail but were delivered by a courier service then the sender would have needed to be in multiple places at once to hand them over.
And the packages would not need stamps.
And the packages would need a special label which is missing.

Also the van looks staged. Paint job, brand new stickers, no wear and tear, no aging.

History of the alleged perp is also highly suspicious.

Makropulos
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Makropulos

I think it’s significant that the media always like to associate false flag / conspiracy theory with the right. This is similar to the way they try to associate rejection of the Democrats with racism/sexism etc. The basic tactic is to drive any criticism into a reactionary camp.

Seamus Padraig
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Seamus Padraig

OT: I decided I’d been free-loading long enough. I just went and made a contribution via PayPal. Keep up the good work, Off-Guardian!

BigB
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BigB

On the bright side: from the official ideological channels (the state ideological apparatuses) – it’s getting easier and easier to spot the lies. From a politician or other capitalist Praetorian spox: just watch for the lips moving. From a ‘printed’ textual source: even if they print the truth, or a version of it, it has an agenda …so even the truth is a lie.

It’s good to see the defunct Dems feel they are so unelectable they resorted to sending themselves bombs to garner some support for the Mid-Terms. The bad news is it may metaphorically explode in their face and empower the Repugnacants. Either way, the anti-human war party wins.

An honest sociologist would declare a ‘crisis of legitimacy’. All elections are null and void. Instead, the roll out is that the US has the apex model of legitimate governance and democracy. The envy of the world. One that has to be bombed into existence globally.

What a total effing farce.

axisofoil
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Speaking of false flags. In 2009, I had been very much looking forward to the long anticipated acknowledgement and press that the survivors of the Liberty were finally receiving…………

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/deadly-attack-on-uss-liberty-gets-new-attention/

As the media began to print, this happened……………..

https://www.revolvy.com/page/United-States-Holocaust-Memorial-Museum-shooting

Anti-right-wing fanaticism exploded in the news and the Liberty story vanished. Maybe coincidence. Maybe not. Sure was convenient timing for some.

Yarkob
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Yarkob

By Deception Thou Shalt Do War

DaveMass
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DaveMass

Just a little side-line to all articles on Off-G-
Can we stop using the term ‘left-wing’ re any US political discourse?
Compared to any other country in the world where real left-wing politics exists,
U.S.A. at best, starts centre, and tends -.> right wing, (using a European-type definition)?

axisofoil
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Unfortunately the left right manta is the cadence of our political body. We know it is one body listing to the right.We also know the cliff is near. I think we just like marching.Makes no sense at all.

frank
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frank

“As usual we at OffG are watching and waiting for evidence, rather than leaping to conclusions.”

What more do you want? A public admission from the CIA that it was a false flag?

This has all the hallmarks of a false flag. Considering all the surveillance they have finding a nutcase like Cesar Sayoc would be trivially easy.

– rabid Trump fan
– crazy
– rap sheet a mile long
– profit!

Then make him an unwitting patsy or have somebody make him do this kind of thing.

Ultimately this was very cheap. Nothing happened. All that really happened was some fake “bombs” were sent in the mail. Or not even sent at all, a picture will do for the msm. How much more transparent does it need to get?

The sad thing (and scary thing) is that they can get away with this.

Also this Cesar Sayoc was making death threats on social media. Actual death threats. But did he get banned? NO. This in a climate where criticizing the war gets you purged.

https://www.rt.com/usa/442400-sayoc-social-media-police/

axisofoil
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The structure of this operation is typical. We know well by now, the elements of false flag. Recall the Anthrax hoax as an example.
Will this new incident be found to have occurred simultaneously with an FBI drill having been conducted? Will the culprits be coincidentally discovered just before midterms ….and with all the same incriminating evidence always found on them? The people who put on these events must have a big room full of containers labeled Bomb making props – child porn- cocaine looking powder, instruction manuals – MAGA hats -packing material etc.

http://maxblumenthal.com/2011/05/did-bin-laden-borrow-his-porn-stash-from-manuel-noriega/

Will we get the ‘lone’ mastermind behind this event immediately after they commit suicide or before? Will this person have all sorts of conspiracy theories on their lap top, thus giving rise to a new purge of web sites? Don’t forget the child porn. Will the dead suspect who is covered with swastikas, then be immediately thrown in the ocean to honor his religion?
If we noticed the subliminal messages in films like ‘Black Klansman’, how could it not now be in the minds of many of it’s viewers to be expecting that Donald Trump is actually the Grand Wizard of the KKK…….this is what the film intimates.
Will we later see a clip of the exact same script about these current events being read by 37 separate media outlets at the same moment on tv? All of course, found to have been written before the incident even occurred.

This new mail bomb story has incorporated in it all the obvious elements of fraud. This is deliberate. Our subsequent debate about it is predetermined. It will have us constantly waiting for ‘BREAKING NEWS’ It never varies because there is no need to do so.We believe anything because we have been divided especially for that purpose. Our opinion is always just a news flash away.
Voting is the solution we are always given. We must vote in new leaders who will then echo the spoon fed opinions we were given ….until they are elected. It does not matter what occurs for our having voted. All of the so called leaders on both sides are subservient to something far deeper and much darker in power.
The gurgling, thunderous stench of information and ever changing shadows envelope us with one singularly hypnotic message. Vote, Vote, Vote. “Participate in the dialog we provide you”.
We have long ago been separated from any of the fundamental values which were conducive to any union of human beings. We respond now only to that diabolical, multilayered and multi headed, construct which perpetually disconnects us from truth and reality. When will we realize that they are no more than representatives of a human meat grinder, selling us colored balloons and poisoned information candy to keep us entertained like children and distracted like the prisoners reacting to shadows on Plato’s cave wall.

Stonky
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Stonky

The Guardian is pretty much where I expect it to be right now. But I’m sure it will come round.Once we find ourselves in a situation where thousands of Trump supporters are blowing up hundreds of people on a daily basis, to the accompaniment of loud cries of MAGA! MAGA! the Guardian will assure us that:
1. This has nothing to do with Trump
2. These people are not true Trumpists
3. Trumpism is an ideology of peace.

milosevic
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milosevic

Trumpism is an ideology of peace.

as opposed to Clintonism, of course.

Create jobs & trade
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Create jobs & trade

The fellow was sending product samples. A product that will create jobs and boost the trade balance in the US favour.

The intention was those receiving the samples would flog the items to their contacts overseas, let’s say the Saudis. Yes, the Israelis will get the products for free, but payments from the Saudis will ensure they cover the free ones for the Israelis.

What is it not to like?

Paul
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Paul

And this Patsy with a criminal record as long as your arm and a mental health file even bigger, lives in a van producing not in-expensive ‘bombs’ and posts them in the nearby post box to people he dislikes. America trembles at the threat implied. … Likely f……g story! Since poor old Sergei got weighed off the Deep State have dived into a Spooks Paradise of fun and games. They’re all at it, Turks, Saudis, Israelis, Russians, Iranians; the list is endless as they are ALL at it. Occasionally the pieces in the mosaic come together to present an understandable narrative. Currently the Deep State claims it has Trump on the run, especially now with a Republican running around trying to kill Democrats! It means Trump is no better if not worse than the Crown Prince. The only doubt about this scenario is the inepitude of those running the PR. It’s a bit like the Saudis, they rather want people to know what ruthless bastards they can be. Every gangster has to show that regularly,
The photo of the device shows something only a little short of saying in big caps “CAREFUL! BOMB!!”. It’s laughable really – but it isn’t because it suggests they don’t care how weak the argument is because they’ll do it anyway.

Stonky
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Stonky

The organisers of this event really missed a trick. The outside of the packages should have had a label saying “ACME Corp”. And the bombs should have been big black balls with a fuse sticking out. Oh, and marked “BOMB!” obviously.

milosevic
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milosevic

the bombs should have been big black balls with a fuse sticking out.