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The Guardian’s Latest Venezuela Hatchet Job

David William Pear

An intended anti-Venezuela propaganda photo, which makes much more sense when you see the little girl as Venezuela, and the police as the United States. The source is here, calling for a military coup.

The Guardian used to be a superb member of the Fourth Estate. It was the “guardian” for the people from the excesses and abuses of power by the government and the ruling class. The free press is vital to democracy because the governing establishments, corporations and oligarchs cannot be trusted to act in the best interest of the public.

Unfettered power in the dark becomes corrupted. It acts in its own best interests even when those interests are harmful to the public’s well-being. The free press is the guardian for the public by keeping it out of the dark of the goings on and shenanigans of the rich, famous and powerful. Transparency has become an overused word in the past few years by the powerful, for the very reason to fool the public of how opaque the actions of the powerful have become.

When the free press fails in its responsibility, then the powers that be have a free hand in the dark. When the 4th estate becomes conjoined with the powerful, then democracy suffocates in the darkness of what has come to be known as the “deep state”. A better description of the deep state would be the “dark state”. The Guardian is now a full-fledged member of the dark state in the service of power instead of the public.

The Guardian’s December 6th “in depth” article on Venezuela is one more of many examples of how the Guardian has become a propaganda organ for the US Empire and its client states. The UK is at the top of the list of the poodles of empire. Having lost their own empire at the end of World War 2, the defunct British Empire made the conscious choice that it would rather be a lapdog for empire rather than just another archaic has-been degenerate monarchy.

The Guardian has now become a degenerate rag instead of an icon of journalism that it used to be prior to about 2014. Why and to who it sold out to is easy to guess, but we really don’t know because the Guardian’s finances are hidden in the dark of a private foundation. Instead of the icon of journalism it used to be, the Guardian is just a tabloid that has to beg its readers for money, because any serious readers know that its “journalism” is not worth the price of a subscription.

The latest of many insults to the intelligence of the public is “Slow-motion catastrophe / on the road in Venezuela, 20 years after Chavez’s rise”. The Guardian’s story starts by saying that it is going to take its readers on an adventure “across the nation the late Hugo Chávez dreamed of transforming, to understand its collapse”.

Our adventure begins at Simón Bolívar international airport in Caracas, where the toilets are “overflowing with urine”. From there the reader’s adventure is all down-hill. Why bother on this adventure.

Now that the scene has been set with overflowing urine, anyone used to the Guardian in the past few years knows where this story is going. The conclusion is going to be like every other independent-minded country that is out of step with George H.W. Bush’s vision of a post-socialism New World Order of US-led neoliberalism. Under the New World Order there can only be one independent sovereign country and that is the USA. For every other independent country in the world, the US alone has assumed that regardless of international law, it has the right to destabilize it, economically, politically and by military force.

Before our Guardian guide Tom Philips (with additional reporting by Patricia Torres and Clavel Rangel) even leaves the airport, it is obvious to him that the “Bolivarian revolution, like the airport’s immobile escalators, has ground to a halt”. Since Tom already has his story why didn’t he and his “additional reporter” just turn around and go home? We got the picture!

The end of the story is that there needs to be a regime change, privatize all state enterprises, deregulation, IMF loans for development, end the welfare state, austerity and a military dictatorship or fascism. Nicolás Maduro has to go, which means to “terminate with extreme prejudice”, in CIA lingo.

Missing from the article is how the US got caught red handed in a coup d’état against Hugo Chavez in 2002. On April 13, 2002 the New York Times could not wait to report that “a leading businessman replaced President Hugo Chávez today, hours after military officers forced him to resign”. Elections will be held within a year, the New York Times promised. Opps, the New York Times had to correct the story the next day as the Venezuelan people turned out and demanded the return of their president Chavez.

Those were the days when the Guardian was an honest newspaper. On April 21, 2002 the Guardian headline was: “Venezuela coup linked to Bush team, Specialists in the ‘dirty wars’ of the Eighties encouraged the plotters who tried to topple President Chavez”. The story continued:

The failed coup in Venezuela was closely tied to senior officials in the US government, The Observer has established. They have long histories in the ‘dirty wars’ of the 1980s, and links to death squads working in Central America at that time.

Washington’s involvement in the turbulent events that briefly removed left-wing leader Hugo Chavez from power last weekend resurrects fears about US ambitions in the hemisphere.”

Let’s jump forward to 2009 and see how the Guardian reported the coup d’état in Honduras: “Does the US back the Honduran coup?” The Guardian still believed in ethical journalism:

The military coup that overthrew Honduras’s elected president, Manuel Zelaya, brought unanimous international condemnation…. Lula da Silva of Brazil and Cristina Fernandez of Argentina, who denounced the coup and called for the re-instatement of Zelaya. The EU issued a similar, less ambiguous and more immediate response.”

The Organization of American States, the Rio Group (most of Latin America) and the UN general assembly have all called for the “immediate and unconditional return” of Zelaya.”

…Clinton was asked whether “restoring the constitutional order” in Honduras meant returning Zelaya himself. She would not say yes.”

Why such reluctance to call openly for the immediate and unconditional return of an elected president, as the rest of the hemisphere and the UN has done? One obvious possibility is that Washington does not share these goals.”

Yes, why was Hillary Clinton so reluctant to call a coup a coup? In her book Hard Choices and leaks from Wikileaks we found out. Hillary wrote in her book Hard Choices:

I spoke with my counterparts around the hemisphere. We strategized on a plan to restore order in Honduras and ensure that free and fair elections could be held quickly and legitimately, which would render the question of Zelaya moot.”

Wikileaks leaked cable from the U.S. Embassy in Honduras to Hillary. The cable makes it clear that Hillary knew that there had been a military coup. Yet Hillary continued the charade that Zelaya had “fled in the middle of the night to avoid justice for his crimes”. Hillary and Obama illegally continued to provide military and economic foreign aid to the coup-government in violation of the Foreign Assistance Act.

Now that the Guardian has given us a road trip of Venezuela, how about they give us a road trip of Honduras? Actually, that might not be a good idea. In 2017 Human Rights Watch reported that Honduras is the “Murder Capital of the World”, especially for journalists.

Venezuela has been under attack by the US for two decades. There have been coup attempts, crushing economic sanctions, and the US financial backing of opposition and terrorist groups. The US which is the most powerful financial and military power the world has ever seen has been trying to destroy Venezuela because they nationalized their oil and they are a socialist country.

Of course, their economy is a mess. It doesn’t take a dog and pony show by the Guardian to know that, but to blame the victim is sadistic. The last thing Venezuela needs is for the US to bring them “democracy and human rights”.

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William Flowers
William Flowers
Dec 26, 2018 10:29 PM

Robert Laine
Robert Laine
Dec 11, 2018 10:05 PM

David (and Kit two weeks ago) have done us a great service by putting the danger of another US invasion in the spotlight and reminding us how sadly uninformative the Guardian has become. If OffG (David and/or Kit for example) had written the article we would probably have known much more about the background of the Chavez dream to transform Venezuela(extreme level of inequality in this oil rich country and rule by an oligarchy), the causes of the current crisis(two examples given below), and possible solutions. Causes to highlight: – The drastic drop in the price of oil in 2012 from $103 to $44 a barrel started an economic decline which has yet to be halted. Chavez wanted to decrease dependence on oil (currently at 95% of exports). Why didn’t this occur? – The impact of an internal power struggle within the ruling United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV in… Read more »

vexarb
vexarb
Dec 11, 2018 6:48 AM

Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro warned of US plot to overthrow country’s government after his party’s decisive victory in Dec 10 elections, winning 142 of 156 municipalities. 70% is not low turnout – 2016 US presidential election called huge turnout less than 56% voted. Meanwhile, Venezuela stopped accepting dollars for oil, accelerating exports to China – as Russia sends 2 nuclear-capable TU-160 bombers to Venezuela.

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3565-maduro-warns-of-us-plot-to-overthrow-venezuela-government

wardropper
wardropper
Dec 8, 2018 6:13 AM

Except that The Guardian became degenerate long before 2014.
I threw in the towel at this point in 2011:
Facts and myths in the WikiLeaks/Guardian saga | Salon.com

falcemartello
falcemartello
Dec 8, 2018 4:08 AM

The downing of the Lousitania one of the long lists of false flags that occurred circa 100 years ago Why would William Pear refers to as a paper that used to be decent. I hate to put a damper on ur hamper but the Guardian was never really a decent paper it was always part of the fifth column of infiltrated satraps to disseminate dis-information throughout the masses especially during the turn of the century with the rise of working class discord. It was created as a western British imperialist tool wrapped in a leftish over coat while deep down it was a tool of the ruling elites and still is(Hardings recent laughable article). The Guardian during the 1916 false flag basically postponed the inevitable cessation of the first world war that was with in reach and would have happened in 1917 .To Quote Churchill the butcher of India and… Read more »

Jay-Q
Jay-Q
Dec 7, 2018 9:11 PM

No word of a lie, when I looked a little while back this article had the most comments on the Guardian homepage:

“I tried the foreskin facial treatment – so you don’t have to”

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/dec/07/foreskin-facial-treatment-baby-salon-wrinkles

Seriously!?!

Eatmypants
Eatmypants
Dec 8, 2018 12:10 PM
Reply to  Jay-Q

Yup here is a photo of La Whiner and her world wide MSM mates living the dream.
http://thehumancentipede.wikia.com/wiki/File:Martin_centipede.jpg

Gwyn
Gwyn
Dec 7, 2018 8:33 PM

To borrow a line from Stewart Lee, the souls of those who are involved in the Guardian propaganda operation are caked in sin.

(The people who run it and who write for it can’t be described as ”journalists.” And I realise that it’s a big stretch to assume that they’ve got souls).

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
Dec 7, 2018 6:36 PM

People interested in the truth about Venezuela will find an interview posted at “TeleSur English” YouTube channel – “Dossier 12-04 Interview with Freddy Bernal” – extremely revealing and informative. Mr. Bernal, a Ph.D., is highly involved at the top level of Venezuela’s government in prevention of a U.S.-led coup, for which he provides all the reasons/details in the interview. Put it this way … the Guardian will NOT be interviewing Venezuela’s Freddy Bernal – not now, not soon, not ever.

Maggie
Maggie
Dec 7, 2018 10:40 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

Hi Jerry Alatalo And here is more you will never read on the MSM. The spokesperson of the US administration stated that the US will use all its available resources to achieve its political objective of “overthrowing” the government of Venezuela. The strategy leading to what may become an eventual military intervention is ECONOMIC WARFARE. The US intends to ‘stifle the Venezuelan economy’, push the society towards internal civil conflict and create the conditions for a so-called “humanitarian intervention”, which is the code words for a military coup. In order to exacerbate an economic crisis, the US has been PREVENTING Venezuela from accessing funding sources and INTERFERED with the country’s international trade, thereby SABOTAGING the purchase of food, medicines and essential goods. The US has HAMPERED international payment transactions and FROZEN the legitimate financial resources of Venezuela in banks and other financial entities. In an attempt to leverage alternative sources… Read more »

William Flowers
William Flowers
Dec 26, 2018 10:27 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

Betrayed planet
Betrayed planet
Dec 7, 2018 6:28 PM

I was 12yrs old in 68. The year I first heard of French singer/ songwriter called Maxime le Forestier, and fell in love with the idea of freedom and democracy. Forestier had been heavily involved in the student riots in 68’. I did not quite realise back then that peace and decency was a fantasy, millions of deaths in WW2, Europe decimated, ground to a fucking pulp, that it was democracy on loan. The establishment had to pay their bill, they had to pay for the millions of lives lost, had to bide their time until that war generation were dead and gone. History can then be distorted, people become vulnerable again, unthinking, unaware. On top of the frankly appalling dumbing down, history has been forgotten,that generation now dead. I still admire the French, still listen to Maxime as I work and will go out fighting the scum currently ruling… Read more »

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Dec 7, 2018 5:21 PM

To add to the ongoing list… the latest identity politics biggup on their site is about neo-Mosleyite frontman, Hardley-Lennon. They hook the bait with 600 ‘russian’ twitter followers out of a million – but then go on to load the article with his views and his supporters views from the alt-right crowd in the US and Oz etc. Yeah his your man. Not only a faux Mark Antony liturgy of not coming to praise him but to bury him, before stuffing the full caesar down the readers optic nerves – Our Tommy! Our Robin hoods son! With photos of whiteboys in camoflage. His name is Stephen you Groaniad fuckwits – use it! (Everytime they refer to him by his nomme de guerre, is them playing their part in his escalation). I don’t see any comments there criticising Viner for her policy on that. He is not the messiah, he really… Read more »

intergenerationaltrauma
intergenerationaltrauma
Dec 7, 2018 4:41 PM

The major MSM here in the U.S. quite closely mirror the Guardian’s descent into madness. Here the NYT’s, Washington Post, and all the TV networks spout an evidence-free brand of crazy totally disconnected from events in the actual physical world. Luke Harding may write books of inane deep state propaganda, but these U.S. media treat him like a hero, gladly repeating the nonsense narratives as they align nicely with U.S. propaganda goals. Overall, the Western establishment media around the globe have collectively mirrored a sort of psychic hysteria over the last several years. The Guardian is hardly alone in this regard. The MSM shift from at least occasional more or less accurate reporting on at least some significant events, to the current fact-free non-stop propaganda suggests something very important I think. It suggests that the oligarchs and their minions are afraid – they are very afraid. The actions of our… Read more »

bevin
bevin
Dec 7, 2018 5:17 PM

Its the beginning. The end is over.

Betrayed planet
Betrayed planet
Dec 7, 2018 6:43 PM
Reply to  bevin

I hope you are right. I think without a global fuck you, by all members of society including the police, that we are screwed. If Corbyn manages to become PM it would go a long way to screwing up those plans.

wardropper
wardropper
Dec 8, 2018 6:43 AM

One is, of course, convinced by now that “anything which would screw up the plans” would never be allowed. The offspring of many generations of the rabidly greedy won’t just volunteer to disappear and let actual human beings try to govern themselves. That kind of change is only won through an outright confrontation, and the enemy has all the weapons and ammunition. Who ever heard of a fabulously wealthy president or monarch declaring to his people, “Well, our country has been so industrious during recent years that we now have an incredible surplus of wealth. So I hereby announce that this wealth shall be immediately distributed throughout the land in order to provide housing, employment and food for all but the terminally lazy, until further notice.” It doesn’t happen. Instead, the wealth is wasted upon the arms trade, in the hope of starting another war – somewhere at a safe… Read more »

Molloy
Molloy
Dec 8, 2018 9:43 AM
Reply to  wardropper

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Agreed, WD.

However, pessimism carries a risk of facilitating psychopaths. imho.

Be strong.

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Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Dec 7, 2018 2:14 PM

Well, I don’t know if I have mentioned this before but it is interesting to look at the editorial board of the Graun and its financial and legal status. Anyway here goesThe Guardian Executive Board Neil Berkitt – a former banker (Lloyds, St George Bank) who then helped vulture capitalist Richard Branson with Virgin Media. David Pemsel – Former head of marketing at ITV. Nick Backhouse – On the board of the bank of Queensland, formerly with Barings Bank. Ronan Dunne – On the Telefónica Europe plc board, Chairman of Tesco Mobile. He has also worked at Banque Nationale de Paris plc. Judy Gibbons – Judy is currently a non-executive director of retail property kings Hammerson, previously with O2, Microsoft, Accel Partners (venture capital), Apple and Hewlett Packard. Jennifer Duvalier – Previously in management consultancy and banking. Brent Hoberman – Old Etonian with fingers in various venture capital pies including… Read more »

James Connolly
James Connolly
Dec 7, 2018 2:31 PM
Reply to  Francis Lee

Thanks Francis, all the answer we need. As motley a crew of financial sector predators and parasites as could be found on the board of even the most reactionary rightwing media company.

David William Pear
David William Pear
Dec 7, 2018 4:25 PM
Reply to  Francis Lee

Thanks for all the background on the finances of The Guardian. There was a shakeup at the Guardian around 2014, which fits with your data. This was also right after the Snowden articles written by Glenn Greenwald and the UK crackdown on the Guardian. The Guardian was even forced to destroy their computers containing more Snowden leaks, as I remember it. The Guardian was in deep financial trouble in 2014 and needed a white knight. They announced a new partnership with NGO funded propagandist groups operating in Russia, Ukraine, East Europe, the Caucasus. Obvious propagandists for right wing regime change organizers: “From Soviet Union to New East: welcome to our new network” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/09/post-soviet-states-new-east-network-guardian-welcome Well, just look at who their partners are. One for instance is Eurasianet. Who are they. Click on the link…click about us…there is the list of officers. At the time of the announcement Justin Burke was listed… Read more »

harry stotle
harry stotle
Dec 7, 2018 10:22 PM

Indeed, regime change – how else does one account for the kind of selective blindness that permeates so much of their output,? And not just with regard to Venezuela but virtually every other geopolitical upheaval demanding serious analysis, be it the Ukraine, Syria, or the Yemen, the Guardian fails us at every turn. I have not been able to find a better account of the their modus operandi than one expertly spelt out by Jonathan Cook. There are so many things to commend in it, not least Cook’s damning conclusion saying; “The Guardian, like other mainstream media, is heavily invested – both financially and ideologically – in supporting the current global order. It was once able to exclude and now, in the internet age, must vilify those elements of the left whose ideas risk questioning a system of corporate power and control of which the Guardian is a key institution.… Read more »

Butties
Butties
Dec 7, 2018 5:45 PM
Reply to  Francis Lee

“In December 2014, it was announced that Alan Rusbridger, then Guardian editor-in-chief, would succeed Forgan as the Chairman of the company in 2016 but he unexpectedly announced on 13 May 2014 his resignation as a director.]” Is there a timeline error here Francis?

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Dec 8, 2018 11:37 AM
Reply to  Butties

Actually I lifted this article form ‘Sodium Haze’ an independent medium which publishes a number of truthful and insteresting articles. The article I quoted was entitled ”The Guardian has Morphed into the Daily Mail” 26 July 2015. Some of the Guran’s Executive Board may have changed, but it is likely that they have been replaced by similar neo-liberal dummies.

Maggie
Maggie
Dec 7, 2018 9:13 PM
Reply to  Francis Lee

Well researched Francis: and here is the actual psychology behind it…. >>>To understand the function of PR we must revert to its modern origins – an exercise of Elite Power used by corporations to secure their business interests (Miller and Dinan, 2008). Public relations was originally known as PROPAGANDA during the early 1900s; “a systematic scheme created by groups in an effort to persuade people on insufficient grounds to believe what it wants them to believe” Therefore, hemispheric communications (spin) is at the heart of the profession, especially when used by the elite class to shape public opinion. Modern PR first gained prominence in the US, through the ground-breaking work of Edward Bernays during the nineteenth century. Recognised by many as the man who fathered the science of spin and devised and developed numerous techniques for influencing public opinion.<<< This radical change in public opinion was achieved by harnessing every… Read more »

Molloy
Molloy
Dec 8, 2018 9:49 AM
Reply to  Francis Lee

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FL —

Yes, all troughers/bottom feeders. Aspiring to become the 0.1% on the backs of starving children.

Perfectly simple. They imagine most humans too shafted by fake democracy greed to have time to pause and call out sociopathic behaviour.

¡No pasarán!

.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Dec 7, 2018 1:25 PM

Ha ha ha. well the Groan doubling up today with their long-read, or should that be ‘wrong-lead’ on China and it’s international news media expansion. Apparently what they do is propaganda and what ours do is independent journalism! I mean even on the Ebola in Africa they insist on mentioning what Chinese medical staff are doing there – ‘it’s shameless’! They are recruiting and training local journalists across the world, bastards! They are even paying the Torygraph and Fail and even midwest US newspapers to run Chinese supplements – Infamy! Fucking hell- the Chinese are definitely running much better than our lot in letting the ‘foreign work for us’ they are ‘renting our boats’ in this ‘war’ – shriek! Having failed to destroy Russian media and perception through the endless flak of this years very sucessful World Cup – no racism, hooliganism, terrorism, everyone happy – the media guns are… Read more »

tutisicecream
tutisicecream
Dec 7, 2018 1:08 PM

I agree with the perspective of the Guardian’s decline promulgated by D.W. Pear. I wish to cite another example. Facing a true European colour revolution in France with the Gilets Jaunes [yellow jackets] which have risen up spontaneously – as a reaction of poor families to the Neo-Liberal austerity programme of Macron – the Guardian seems not to know how to react. I say a true colour revolution because unlike the ones in Ukraine and Georgia there has been no subversion from external players such as the US, EU et.al. “For Europe’s sake, Emmanuel Macron needs help” Opines Natalie Nougayrède in abject panic, as Macron’s ratings plunge to 18%. This is the same Natalie Nougayrède who welcomed and has staunchly supported the Ukraine Maidan which swept from power totally unconstitutionally, President Yanukovych whose rating the Graun thought were deplorable at 25% and that he didn’t have popular support in the… Read more »

John A
John A
Dec 7, 2018 4:43 PM
Reply to  tutisicecream

Naatalie Nougat was on the list that was hacked recently of journalists used for western propaganda purposes along with Aaronavich etc. She is appalling. I also love the Guardian’s opinion that Macron is centre-left.
Macron himself has gone into deep hiding in France. All the statements from the government come from the Prime Minister mainly.

Stonky
Stonky
Dec 7, 2018 12:07 PM

“Before our Guardian guide Tom Philips…”

Ah. Tom Philips.Funny that. It was only last year that he came back from five years or so as the Guardian’s China correspondent, dutifully penning two articles a week explaining to his readers how everything in China is shit.

It’s great that in the space of only a few months he’s become one of the world’s leading experts on how everything in Venezuela is shit.

Frankly Speaking
Frankly Speaking
Dec 7, 2018 12:31 PM
Reply to  Stonky

Clearly a Dark State scribe as are Harding, Friedman and the rest of them.

Godfree Roberts
Godfree Roberts
Dec 7, 2018 11:40 AM

China has been under a similar attack for 70 years, but it’s bigger, more homogeneous and smarter.

Mike
Mike
Feb 3, 2019 5:13 PM

Godfree, does that include the homogeneous , smart Cultural Revolution ?

BigB
BigB
Dec 7, 2018 10:57 AM

One small point I would take very slight issue with in David’s excellent article – I do not think the ‘Deep State’ is a ‘Dark State’ inasmuch as they publish their intentions. CFR, Brookings, Cato, Rand, WEF. Valdai, etc. There are reams of documents about the intentions, though it is not possible to predict the exact policy …I can discern I am already anti all of it!

Jim Scott
Jim Scott
Dec 7, 2018 1:47 PM
Reply to  BigB

I prefer another term that has been used in conjunction with the Deep State and that is the Permanent State which describes the co-joined military industrial state and the oligarchical families and bought politicians who run the USA and through it the greater part of the world. This loose grouping that also contains invited foreigners like members of the Atlantic Council and major Bankers and militarists from Europe and UK. They are the people who govern hidden behind the facade of an elected democratic government. Trump is not so much changing his mind and position on a daily basis but is being pushed into making the change required by the permanent state. e.g wanting to be a friend to Russia but forced to do a 180 degree turn the next day.

BigB
BigB
Dec 7, 2018 4:46 PM
Reply to  Jim Scott

I can go with that: ‘permanent state’ it is. And by extension, ‘permantising state’ or ‘perpetual state’. Personally, I think we can give up on any idealism that posits that the state’s function is to inclusively further the Common Good. In modern state-making terms: the Social Contract is so much 18th century toilet paper. The teleology of the state is the greater state. The modern iterations of Sir Humphrey Appleby (Yes, Minister) would never allow a mere elected representative to get in the way.

https://youtu.be/nZBkP6drCqE?t=346

David William Pear
David William Pear
Dec 7, 2018 4:27 PM
Reply to  BigB

I was just using a little poetic license about the ‘dark state’.

harry stotle
harry stotle
Dec 7, 2018 9:12 AM

The Guardian’s precipitous decline is matched BTL in my opinion with especially high levels of ignorance whenever the geopolitics of Latin America come up. It is almost impossible to discuss Venezuela rationally because of dreary and seemingly endless references to Jeremy Corbyn, or hyperbolic warnings about the dangers of ‘socialism’ both apparently worse for Empire apologists than right-wing death squads, or economic sanctions used to intimidate weaker states that refuse to submit to US demands. Of course the irony of gangsters like Obama or Trump sanctioning Venezuela for ‘human rights abuses’ is completely lost on them, this despite Guitmo, the long term persecution of Julian Assange or the ransacking of country after country across the Middle East and Noth Africa. Too many Guardian readers are like goldfish with an inability to either understand or remember the long list of crimes committed by the US or vast edifice of fake news… Read more »

Frankly Speaking
Frankly Speaking
Dec 7, 2018 12:36 PM
Reply to  harry stotle

BTL comments are surely being managed, to fit the narrative, it’s allegedly the role of GCHQ. It’s been done elsewhere, i need to dig out the links.

Mr Shigemitsu
Mr Shigemitsu
Dec 7, 2018 3:02 PM
Reply to  harry stotle

Pay no attention to BTL comments on the Graun – I seriously doubt whether many more than 10% of them nowadays are from genuinely independent individual readers, unconnected to the social media departments of the various UK and international political or economic lobby groups, political parties, so-called think tanks, and, of late, intelligence services and alphabet agencies. It has simply become a battleground for propaganda and counter-propaganda, like opening a door onto a fully fledged and never ending bar-room brawl. The level of debate is woeful, often consisting of little more than drive-by trolling and insult – yet the Graun itself is very happy indeed to count the clicks, as it gleefully sits back and declares: “Let’s you and him fight!” Maybe the action has become concentrated and heightened as fewer and fewer articles are now open for comment, but I don’t want to channel the old restaurant food joke:… Read more »

Jay-Q
Jay-Q
Dec 7, 2018 6:40 PM
Reply to  Mr Shigemitsu

It wouldn’t surprise me if half of the tasks that interns perform at the Guardian is writing BTL.

lundiel
lundiel
Dec 7, 2018 5:00 PM
Reply to  harry stotle

I completely agree. The funny thing is, Venezuela isn’t even a Socialist country, most of it’s economy is market based and dominated by the private sector. The problem isn’t about Socialism, it’s about poor judgement and ensuing corruption. Venezuela never tried to copy Cuba’s model of a centrally planned Socialist economy. Chavez called his version 21st Century Socialism, it led to a massive gap between the official and black-market exchange rates and cross border smuggling. Try and explain that to Guardian readers is like speaking in a foreign language they refuse to learn.

Thomas Turk
Thomas Turk
Dec 7, 2018 7:52 AM

Lucky for Ven. that Russ. and C. are now investing in Gold mining, (taking gold to Turkey to refine), oill exploration and production, joint defense contracts.. etc making it difficult for the Mad Murikans and all-lies to do more than huff and puff and try to squeeze with illegal sanctions.

no energy?
no energy?
Dec 7, 2018 1:05 PM
Reply to  Thomas Turk

C.?
I think it’s OK to write Cunt in full here.

Russ“.” instead of Russia?

Molloy
Molloy
Dec 8, 2018 9:56 AM
Reply to  no energy?

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Really?!

What’s wrong with you?!

John A
John A
Dec 7, 2018 7:40 AM

Yes, it was very similar to a piece about plucky Ukrainians in Mariepol on the Sea of Azov, fearful of imminent Russian invasion and blockade of the port. No context at all. Just when you think The Guardian could not stoop lower, down to swoops even further.

zoggo
zoggo
Dec 7, 2018 2:26 PM
Reply to  John A

Just when you think The Guardian could not stoop lower, down to swoops even further.

Indeed, it is happening on a daily basis now.

But I would not recommend turning this into a drinking game – getting drunk before 9AM is not much fun, imo.

David William Pear
David William Pear
Dec 7, 2018 5:40 AM

Don’t you just love these stories from the Guardian and mainstream propaganda that “socialism never works”? Every socialist country is being crushed by US sanctions, threats, regime change projects and subversion: Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba, Iran and North Korea. China and Russia are out of step with the US, so they need punishing too. Did I miss anybody?

vexarb
vexarb
Dec 7, 2018 8:56 AM

Pear, I think you missed socialist Libya, Syria and Iran.

Tish Farrell
Tish Farrell
Dec 7, 2018 10:00 AM
Reply to  vexarb

And they developed their technique in the Congo with the assassination of democratically elected Lumumba in 1961 and the installation of Mobutu who bled the nation for 3 decades; and left the place a US/Western pillage zone ever since. DR Congo one of the poorest most resource-rich nations on the planet.

David William Pear
David William Pear
Dec 7, 2018 4:32 PM
Reply to  vexarb

Good point especially about Libya and Syria. Nor did I go back into the history of regime changes and elections frauds pulled off by the US since WW2. Greece, Italy, etc.

David Macilwain
David Macilwain
Dec 7, 2018 10:32 AM

The US and its lackey states like Australia are now accusing China of “debt loans” to poor countries, and trying to make them submit to China’s wishes and interests by joining in the BRI. Australian media are really beating up this idea at the moment, as well as constantly running stories about Chinese influence and spying.
But of course it’s the US and its allies who’ve been raping and plundering Africa and Latin America for decades, keeping them poor and in debt while filling their own coffers with cash and cheap resources. The hypocrisy is gut-wrenching.

Bootlyboob
Bootlyboob
Dec 7, 2018 11:41 PM

I remember there was quite a lot of good will in Australia towards China when Kevin Rudd became Prime Minister. Normal folk are indeed attracted to China because of its history and, if you have ever been there, it’s a great country with intelligent people. Now the general public are being swayed by the idea that China is taking over our intelligence services and government by, of course, the media (including the ABC) and think tanks like the IPA. How this narrative would even be possible given that Australia is just a spy base for the US and well under their control, is all too hard to fathom for them.

Mike
Mike
Feb 3, 2019 5:17 PM

Maybe you should move to China, where you’ll have a more comfortable life and more freedom to speak your will?

Frankly Speaking
Frankly Speaking
Dec 7, 2018 12:42 PM

Yes, one more, little, independent, democratic Switzerland is currently being bullied into submission by the neoliberals in the EU commission. The FT have two good pieces, surprisingly.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Dec 7, 2018 1:27 PM

The UK.