Comments on: The EU and the warning signs of Fascism https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/10/the-eu-and-the-warning-signs-of-fascism/ because facts really should be sacred Thu, 06 Mar 2025 18:37:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Tony Elliott https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/10/the-eu-and-the-warning-signs-of-fascism/#comment-102008 Sat, 16 Nov 2019 23:18:37 +0000 https://off-guardian.org/?p=51544#comment-102008 “250,000 hypothetical men, drawn from all the member states.“ Extract.

I need to read this article again and ‘think it through’.

Just a few quick questions: how can you form an army of hypothetical men?

What about army which includes women?

Presumably this armed force doesn’t include an airforce or navy?

]]> By: zircon https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/10/the-eu-and-the-warning-signs-of-fascism/#comment-101582 Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:36:15 +0000 https://off-guardian.org/?p=51544#comment-101582 It was Mussolini who said of the common people “When they have learned to obey, they will believe what I tell them … The people do not know what they want; they do not know what is the best for them…..Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of(economic and political) liberalism” And just like the current EU project, the aim of Left-Wing Italian Fascism was to spread socialist ideas via control of the big corporations. Mussolini said “in the world’s social revolution will be followed by a more equitable distribution of the earth’s riches.” That is essentially what it is all about, and why Vladimir Bukovsky the Soviet dissident said “…socialist is the project of the European Union, which was born in Maastricht in 1992. The intent was to save socialism in Europe after the fall of the Berlin Wall”
Franco’s ideas are well represented by the EU imperial ideal, he favoured the expansion of Fascism across the Continent (and the planet) and in Spain fused Carlists (who thought that the Italian Fascists and German National Socialists were too Socialistic) and Falangists – who were revolutionary Fascists and Syndicalist “Offensive” revolutionaries – to create a strange blend, while remaining on good terms with Hitler and Mussolini’s Axis in terms of their broader aims to unite Europe in a fascist/corporatist/anti-democratic authoritarian way. This was a more Aristocratic revolution that “called for a social revolution to create a national syndicalist economy that creates national syndicates of both employees and employers to mutually organize and control the economic activity, agrarian reform, industrial expansion, and respect for private property with the exception of nationalizing credit facilities to prevent capitalist usury.” Franco’s Falange declared itself to be “fully compatible with capitalism.”
Let’s not forget either that O Mosley the leader of the BUF was vociferous in his support of the Europe-A-Nation ideal that woudl do away entirely with borders as well as national sovereign parliaments and militarise the whole Continent and Britain with it, into a unit designed to impose Fascist ideas everywhere. This was an inherently aristocratic/elitist/Fabian way of seeing things, befitting of his connections with the Mitfords and aristocratic Fabian “reformers” who looked down on the common people (just as Mussolini and the other fascists and national socialists did).
People think that Fascism is a right-wing branch of Conservatism. It is not. It is a Socialist idea blended with Liberal reformist concepts.
You only have to read Hitler’s words to see this, in an interview with George Sylvester Viereck in 1923 (that was republished for Liberty magazine) “We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state” Goebbels, the Nazi head of propaganda, pointed out this difference: “England is a capitalist democracy. Germany is a socialist people’s state”
Heinrich Himmler, who ran the SS, said “In the course of history periods of capitalism and socialism alternate with one another; capitalism is the unnatural, socialism the natural economic system…The National Socialists and the Red Front have the same aspirations.”
The ideology of Fascism is very clear in the EU superstructure, but people today have been brainwashed into thinking that what these same (Liberal-Socialist) EU imperialists call “far-right fascism” is the ordinary desire of people to be sovereign in their own nations, under a democracy (which was the very thing the Fascists wanted to take away).

]]> By: Briexit https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/10/the-eu-and-the-warning-signs-of-fascism/#comment-101476 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 13:17:41 +0000 https://off-guardian.org/?p=51544#comment-101476 In reply to John.

this what i’ve been saying and was predicted years ago in an article in some fringe magazine like Nexus

]]> By: David Wilson https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/10/the-eu-and-the-warning-signs-of-fascism/#comment-101445 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 08:51:15 +0000 https://off-guardian.org/?p=51544#comment-101445 In reply to Peter.

I don’t agree with a lot I have heard he does but that’s not the point. Should the EU have powers to send the military in because they don’t like the democracy in a country?

]]> By: Richard Frisby https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/10/the-eu-and-the-warning-signs-of-fascism/#comment-64500 Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:08:19 +0000 https://off-guardian.org/?p=51544#comment-64500 In reply to Peter.

Free to leave my arse! Hungary is a relatively small country (economically) compared to the UK and look at the blatant bullying that’s going on the EU have made it almost impossible for the smaller countries to stand up for their rights Greece and Italy are testament to that

]]> By: Anthony Brown-Hovelt https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/10/the-eu-and-the-warning-signs-of-fascism/#comment-64499 Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:37:26 +0000 https://off-guardian.org/?p=51544#comment-64499 In reply to Frankly Speaking.

Like a lot of people in Britain my head said stay in and reform from within my heart said leave! While Cameron made a huge mistake of not getting any kind of reform or help he set himself up for a fall. However, it was the arrogance of the institution and its disregard for peploes concerns that finally did it for me. e (the English, cut off the head of a monarch over the issue of “No taxation without representation” and then did the whole bloody thing all over again in the 13 Colonies! The Anglo-Saxon by nature want’s a say in the details of their lives. The EU is no longer a trade organisation it is an Empire building exercise for an illiberal elite based on Bismark’s Empire building ways. He used a single currency as his primary method of control and while Military power was important (Against Denmark and France in terms of regaining control of the Holy Roman Empire’s traditional land borders and German speaking people.) He set up a parliament as a talking shop with no real power to keep the middle classes occupied on worthy things! Sounds familiar? Most of Europe has no real experience of democracy and how to hold those who govern you to account! Junkers over saw the government of a country with the largest democratic deficiency in Europe! The head of the EU secretariat (Illegally appointed) is the son of a convicted Nazi war criminal who thinks Britain should be punished for Voting on our future! France and Germany have consistently kept Britain from the top table and now we don’t want to fund their 4th Empire/Reich it is hardly surprising they are making things difficult! This will be their 1812 moment. Napoleon’s empire came crashing down when he tried to stop trade with Britain! 60,000 Belgians rely on Trade with Britain for their livelihoods! I doubt they are going to be very happy about being made to suffer in order for the EU to punish Britain!!! The trouble is that the future of Europe has been cast i stone and it is a federal stone!!! All countries to move into the Single Currency, Border controls, etc… As for some of the other comments above well the continuing march to over regulation is creating an inability to innovate! Huge youth unemployment in the Med! Excessive immigration and an increase between rich and poor rising, lack of social mobility and sense of a future and leadership is the problem. As for being a moral organisation? Rubbish. Just look at the discard policy in the CFP! The stopping of the practice of joining up trawling nets ove miles of sea leaving no way out for mammals and sharks from the netting wanted by Britain but being stopped by France and Spain!)! use of electrical probe fishing (Ostensibly for research which is not being done).I could go on the soon as we are out of this dreadful organisation the better! And we should go without a deal as soon as possible. Then they will need to negotiate with us otherwise what will the Danes and Dutch do with all their pigs? Bulbs, Cut flowers, potted pats? France needs the British dairy industry trade, otherwise what will it do with all its milk!! I see no reason why we cannot have a sensibel relationship with them as the trade imbalance is against us, so they need our trade more than we need theirs and our trade with them has been falling consistently. We don’t need all the 1,400 EU trade tariffs that make other imports more expensive!

]]> By: Anthony Brown-Hovelt https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/10/the-eu-and-the-warning-signs-of-fascism/#comment-64498 Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:08:48 +0000 https://off-guardian.org/?p=51544#comment-64498 In reply to Vlad the Inhaler.

Glad to see you only inhale now days but perhaps you need to get your sticks sharpened again! Your name sake conducted a pretty impressive gurrileur war against a vastly larger organisation for some time.

]]> By: Kent https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/10/the-eu-and-the-warning-signs-of-fascism/#comment-64497 Wed, 26 Dec 2018 07:00:35 +0000 https://off-guardian.org/?p=51544#comment-64497 In reply to Peter.

What’s ther matter, Peter? Does people protecting their home nations from the reborn fascists in Brussels “offend” you?

]]> By: John White https://off-guardian.org/2018/12/10/the-eu-and-the-warning-signs-of-fascism/#comment-64496 Wed, 26 Dec 2018 06:00:35 +0000 https://off-guardian.org/?p=51544#comment-64496 In reply to Frankly Speaking.

The EU was born out of Nazi Germany, and was structured to give Germany supremacy (=why Britain lost its steel and coal) how can you not know this and claim to know the history of the EU? Pulled the wool well and truly over your eyes Frank.

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