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MH17: JIT’s expiring mandate

Three and half years on, why are there still so many unanswered questions?

Célia Schmidt

The year is ending and so is the mandate of the Joint International Team investigating the downing of flight MH17. It’s time to provide the results of the prosecutors’ work. No need to say how it’s important to identify and pursue those responsible for shooting down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 on 17 July 2014 in Ukraine. Otherwise, the perpetrators will feel like they have impunity. But as the investigation progresses, more questions to the JIT and more doubts about their ability to find responsible for the death of 298 passengers arise.

Loopholes in the JIT report

At the press conference in May 2018, the international investigators presented evidence that, according to them, implicated the Russian army in the MH17 crash. From the beginning, this theory, quite realistic indeed, has been the only one developed by the JIT. But should not prosecutors consider all the possible scenarios about the circumstances of the disaster?

There is no doubt that a massive Russian information campaign is impeding the ongoing investigation. But the JIT members, themselves, empower Putin by ignoring the information that Moscow did officially provide to them. Thus, the report of the manufacturer of Buk missiles Almaz-Antey was rejected as being out of synch with the official line of the JIT. Fred Westerbeke, chief investigator, literally said:

Their findings are contrary to ours, we do not share them … I do not want to know if they are correct or not”.

In September 2018, the Russian Ministry of Defense held a press conference on the downing of Flight MH17. Based on “secret defense” documents, the Russian army assured that the missile “was assembled on 24 December 1986 and delivered by train” to the west of Ukraine. “After the fall of the Soviet Union, the missile was not repatriated to Russian territory and was incorporated into the Ukrainian army.”

Moscow claims to have handed over these documents to the prosecutors. The JIT has so far given no comment to the information received. As if the Russian press conference had never taken place.

“The work of the JIT is very politicized”

The independent experts denounce the methods of the JIT and study other plausible theories. Thus, Max van der Werff, a Dutch blogger who has twice been to the MH17 crash site, does not rule out several possible versions of events. According to him, the Ukrainian army could have fired the Buk missile by accident, as it was in 2001, when it shot down the 1812 Siberia Airlines flight carrying 76 passengers over the Black Sea. According to Christian Roger, former leader of the Patrouille de France, another hypothesis is likely to be true: Ukrainian soldiers familiar with the technology could have taken control of the Russian Buk vehicle.

The work of the JIT is highly politicized, says Max van der Werff, because most of the Team’s member countries, especially the Netherlands and Australia, which are traditionally hostile to Russia, seek any pretext to criticize it. Malaysia, however, being not so biased towards Moscow, did not find the latest JIT’s findings convincing. For Malaysian Transport Minister Anthony Loke,

there is no conclusive evidence to point at Russia under the JIT [Joint Investigative Team] evidence”

Belgium also abstained from making judgemental comments. The JIT report is mainly based on photos and videos published on social networks, whose authenticity nobody can validate, says the Dutch expert. So at this point, the JIT does not have any documents that can be presented before the judges.

In addition to this, Max van der Werff points to numerous testimonies, which oppose the official JIT’s line on the one hand and explain why one should not rule out different versions of the events and other suspects on the other hand. The Dutch investigators did not disclose the data that Kiev should have provided to the JIT. Since the disaster, Ukraine has not held a press conference and has not published any reports. The Ukrainian officials have only given different assumptions.

Details hidden by Ukraine

At first, Valentine Nalivaishenko, the head of the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) at the time, said the pro-Russian separatists had wanted to shoot down a Russian plane to create a casus belli for Moscow to intervene in Ukraine. The SBU then deleted his statement from the site, but it’s saved in the archive. Afterwards, the SBU suggested and immediately rejected the assumption that the Buk missile downing MH17 had been seized by the rebels from the Ukrainian army.

At this point, a question arises: why did not the Ukrainian authorities having all the tools to conduct a detailed and unbiased investigation come up with solid conclusions? The latest JIT publications do not contain any information regarding the positions of the Ukrainian Buks on the day of the accident or recordings of the air traffic controllers. If the Ukrainian military is innocent, as Kiev , why does not Ukraine or the JIT reveal these data?

Besides, the experts also questioned Kyiv’s claims about their military aviation flights on 17 July 2014. The Ukrainian authorities assured that the country’s air force had not performed any flight. But Max van der Werff managed to collect testimonies from people who had seen fighter planes flying the day of the tragedy, yet at such a low altitude that they could not shoot down the MH17. But why then to hide it?

Here is another ambiguous question that the Netherlands and several European officials prefer to avoid: why Ukraine had not closed its airspace above the conflict zone? Kiev surely should have to do this considering that shortly before the MH17 crash the separatists had shot down Ukrainian fighter jets. The danger to air traffic was obvious. But Kiev didn’t want to lose profit from international air traffic, which amounts to at least two hundred million euros a year.

Anyway, Ukraine’s unrestricted airspace turned out to be one of the fatal mistakes that led to the death of the 298 passengers of flight MH17. Amsterdam had even asked the families of the victims not to lodge a complaint against Kiev as it could have torpedo the cooperation with Ukraine in the framework of the JIT, reports the Dutch journalist Peter Klein.

Before the answers to the questions above are obtained, the survey can not be considered as unbiased as Ukraine was also part of the conflict that led to the accident. In order to determine the true causes of the disaster and render a judgment, it’s essential to collect and carefully analyze all the data provided by both sides. Thus, the investigation is still far from completion. Consequently, the JIT’s mandate, which expires on January 1, 2019, could be extended for at least another year.


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Philpot
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Philpot

The Zionists tried to ethnically cleanse Syria for expansion of their state. Current borders too small (no water, etc etc). Could a shift of everything to Ukraine (after ethnically cleansing through Donbass) be the plan? Lots of good land. Maybe the Right Sektor goons are being played like a banjo…

nisal
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nisal

also please read this , old but usefull
https://energia.su/mh17/fake_buk.html

RetroSpin
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RetroSpin

There has been a number of comments, in this and other threads on the same topic, of evidence of attacks having come from the side, or from the front of the MH17 Boeing. As far as I know, that could very well have happened. One thing that I do know is this – according to a statement by the then-chief of the Russian armed forces, the BUK missile, because so many military aircraft are armored underneath and even along the sides, is designed to position itself above its target and then explode, hitting the target from above. Any number of… Read more »

Jen
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Jen

From my own reading, the SA-11 missile (which is the missile type used in the BUK missile delivery systems) is indeed designed to reach a position above the target and then explode several thousand pieces of shrapnel (diamond or bowtie-shaped) over it. At the same time it was struck by the explosion, the target Boeing 777-200ER would have been cruising at a speed of 890 km/h with a maximum speed of 945 km/h. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777#777-200ER So while the missile was exploding, the entire body of the jet might have passed beneath the explosion and the shrapnel might have penetrated the entire… Read more »

vexarb
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“Fred Westerbeke, chief investigator [in Holland], literally said: Their findings are contrary to ours, we do not share them … I do not want to know if they are correct or not”.

Sounds like the chief of the Official 911 report.

Schande, schande over Holland!

Yonatan
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Yonatan

The JIT reconstruction photos never show the port engine. Why? It too was damaged by shrapnel and that totally negates the desired conclusion that MH17 was shot down by a Buk missile shot from the front (ie in rebel territory). The engine damage does reinforce the manufacturers analysis the the maissile was fired from the right side, with a launch point in Ukraine-held territory.

Means, motive, opportunity all point to Ukraine.

Dan Tallsten
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It is nice to see that you trolls and other blunt tools stil have at least one safe space to stroke each other’s delusions. Meanwhile, in the real world, your propaganda is just that and nothing more. There is no expiry date on mass murder, and pathetic Russian lies will no save you.

Yarkob
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Yarkob

“Dan Tallsten
Dec, 23, 2018
It is nice to see that you trolls and other blunt tools stil have at least one safe space to stroke each other’s delusions. Meanwhile, in the real world, your propaganda is just that and nothing more. There is no expiry date on mass murder, and pathetic Russian lies will no save you’ll

eagerly awaiting your detailed and propaganda-free rebuttal Dan.

no? thought not. you sound rattled, though.

nwwoods
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nwwoods

John Kerry stated in 2014 that the US had proof of Russian culpability by way of US satellite recon photos, and yet no such evidence has ever been produced by US authorities, most likely because any such evidence, of it exists at all, proves the exact opposite—that you Ukro-Nazis are in fact the murderers.

Tom
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Tom

Moron!

bjd
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bjd

It is nice to see that you trolls and other blunt tools stil have at least one safe space to stroke each other’s delusions. Meanwhile, in the real world, your propaganda is just that and nothing more. There is no expiry date on mass murder, and pathetic Russian lies will no save you

This real world ‘propaganda’ sure seems to have got your goat. Maybe your lame view of events is in need of saving?

Tommo
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Tommo

Fixing the conclusions of air accident investigations has always been a priority of governments and airline manufacturers. A case in point is the Lockerbie disaster in 1988 (PanAm 103) where a Libyan was held responsible for loading an explosive device on board in Frankfurt airport. But a Scottish aviation specialist came to a totally different conclusion, that a very powerful military grade anti tank type weapon was loaded on to the plane in London. John Parks gave a detailed report of the accident gained from his first response observations. Here is his report.http://twa800.com/news/parkes-10-17-00.htm Alas Mr Parks is no longer with… Read more »

Einstein
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Einstein

Why is MH17’s Black Box still not released to public scrutiny?
Why did the JIT refuse to hear the eye-witness testimony of the pilot who saw MH17 shot down?
Why did Kiev’s air-traffic control authorities divert MH17 to the conflict zone?

Until the JIT honestly addresses these questions, justice is not seen to be done.

Archie1954
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Archie1954

For goodness sake, it is abundantly clear to me that the JIT has been ordered by the US to find Russia somehow guilty of downing the Malaysian plane even when the evidence is weak and actually points to the Ukrainians themselves. This is not an independent investigation, it is an ambush, of Russia, plain and simple!

tutisicecream
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What really stands out is the omissions of key data. information which would be a real game changer. Such as the flight and cockpit recorders from MH17, which were taken to RAF Farnborough to be analysed and to date have never been made publicly available (despite the UK not being part of the official investigation). In addition to this there were the Air Traffic Control (ATC) recordings which were confiscated by the Kiev authorities and have never been released and may have been destroyed. These aspects are of huge significance, as they would no doubt clear up the basic questions… Read more »

ZigZag Wanderer
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ZigZag Wanderer

The removal of the BBC report is highly significant. I watched it twice on the day it was released. Went back for a third viewing on the same day and it had been removed from the BBC website. Some further investigation revealed that it was removed as it ‘ did not meet the BBC’s editorial standards’. It would be problematic for the JIT and Bellingcat narratives if this BBC ‘at the scene’ report was in the public domain. Sadly ‘video grab’ software was a rarity in 2013 as it appears not a single copy was ever downloaded and saved. Whatever… Read more »

Paolo
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Paolo

I downloaded the BBC report before it was deleted but theres also a lower quality version here…..

nisal
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nisal

thanks ✌

Maggie
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Maggie

This video is blocked in Britain??? Must have something very important in it?

Paolo
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Paolo

dailymotion.com/video/x6zh968

Paolo
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Paolo

Try here then, and dont forget to download before its blocked or deleted….
dailymotion.com/video/x6zh968

Paul
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Paul

Thanks Paolo.

Paolo
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Paolo

watch?v=0-CshrX947g

Kristina Turner
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It is a big coincidence that TWA 800 was shot down July 17, 1996 in New York City & MH 17 was shot down July 17, 2013. They seem to pick anniversaries of prior attacks.

Paul Carline
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Paul Carline

Not a coincidence at all if this was a false flag. ‘They’ certainly like playing with certain numbers, and 7 is one of their favourites. Here we have two cases of 17/7 (or 7/17 if you prefer). I wasn’t aware of the 1996 date. Then there’s 7/7 for the London bombings. No less than six recent (2011 and later) probable false flags happened ‘coincidentally’ on the 22nd of the month: two in March, two in May and two in July. Unlikely to be coincidental. Numerology goes along with black magic and satanic ritual with the kind of would-be wizards who… Read more »

Maggie
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Maggie

Christopher Bolleyn’s investigation of the MH17 is not to be missed, if you want to understand who did what. Here is a snippet….. >>>>We know that members of the Israeli military led the violent overthrow of the elected government of Ukraine in February 2014, and we know that Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down while flying through the air traffic control region of Dnepropetrovsk, where the governor, Igor Kolomoisky, happens to be an Israeli billionaire involved in aviation companies. Furthermore, Yaron Mofaz, a relative of Shaul Mofaz, former chief of staff of the Israeli military, oddly took a photograph… Read more »

nwwoods
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nwwoods

Rather than copy-pasting enough text to fill the library of Congress, usually a link will more than suffice.

Maggie
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Maggie

Problem being Woods, that many people ”can’t be bothered” to OPEN LINKS….
My way – everyone gets to read the salient points.

Jen
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Jen

Another oddity that links Israel, coincidentally or not, to the MH17 shoot-down is that the company responsible for airport security at Amsterdam Airport Schiphol (AAS) at the time when the tragedy occurred was ICTS International, a company founded by former Shin Bet agents and El Al airline security agents. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICTS_International AAS was involved in an earlier terrorist incident back in late December 2009, when Umar Farouk Abdelmutallab was allowed to board a jet bound for Detroit with explosives in his underwear. ICTS International’s subsidiary company Huntleigh SA was in charge of airport security including baggage handling and checking aircraft at… Read more »

Rhisiart Gwilym
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Rhisiart Gwilym

Chris Bollyn’s view always commands respect. He’s an old-fashioned example of how a dedicated, bulldog-style, high-grade, fact-and-evidence-heavy investigative journalist should be. A near-extinct species these days. No wonder he’s so far out on the edge. Even the realist tendency within the 11/9 truth movement eye him warily. Yet his f-a-e-h scenarios hold together very well when tested. The secret-state thugs of the ziP [zioentity-in-Palestine] certainly have a string of highly pertinent questions still to answer over the 11/9/01 false-flag atrocities in the US [being a Brit, I prefer Brit calendrical conventions]. It’s entirely possible, maybe even as Mrs. May likes… Read more »

Paul Carline
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Paul Carline

The plot may be even thicker. I remember seeing/reading evidence that indicates that the plane photographed just before departure in Amsterdam and believed to be MH17 was not the plane that crashed in Ukraine. If I remember rightly, there were differences in the configuration of the windows and the numbers on the landing wheel covers did not match. There is a theory – however wild it might seem – that the plane that crashed in Ukraine is the one that disappeared in Asia and which has never been found. There are many anomalies surrounding MH17 and what was found at… Read more »

ChrisG
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ChrisG

True, Zionism is omnipotent and stretches all the way to the Moon. In fact it’s impossible to cross the road nowadays without being ran over by a Motor Mossad.

Tom
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Tom

Probably true in all counts.

Paul
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Paul

The failure or refusal to hand over the audio tales from and to Air Traffic Control in Kiev always seemed highly suspect. Amazing to hear they still haven’t been disclosed. The whole thing stinks of an audacious false flag operation.

summitflyer
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summitflyer

The fact that we are not hearing anything about the results of the JIT speaks volumes .They have to be working tirelessly to massage and twist the story to absolve the Kiev regime , and this, if indeed Kiev is guilty of shooting down MH-17 ,must be a next to impossible feat . Meanwhile all is quiet but for a reason.

Chris
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Chris

Very balanced but let’s call a spade a spade: the Ukrainian silence can be explained by only one thing: culpability.

Antonym
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Antonym

The Ukraine is silent to the public, not inside the JIT.
Look at the set up of this “J”IT: one of the potential perps (Ukraine) is a member. Russia is about the only left over perp: convenient . A totalJudicial joke.

The Dutch under Rutte are 200% brainwashed by CIA -Ukraine stories: no objectivity at all. Rutte’s only wish to stay in power, at any cost. The guy is also completely on the CO2 bandwagon: he may finally lose the coming elections going a bridge too far.