British think-tanks call for “US leadership” in Europe
“Rebuilding US leading role is the key for European security” say British experts, but the new political realities inspire doubts
Jeremy McCoy
Drawing by Konstantin Maler. (source).
January 4, Anonymous hackers released the new batch of documents from the Integrity Initiative – a government-funded program run by the London based Institute for Statecraft. The Institute for Statecraft describes itself as “an independent body dedicated to refreshing the practice of statecraft, to improving governance and to enhancing national security”. The Integrity Initiative: Defending Democracy against Disinformation is one of the Institute’s projects aimed at countering Russian propaganda as well as all kinds of “attempts to influence the policies and undermine the societies of the West”.
The released batch inter alia contains the files on the Integrity Initiative efforts in the USA. These documents worth being examined more carefully because they show a questionable approach to European security shared by some British think tankers. The experts believe a reassertion of the US political and military domination in Europe is the only way for the West to counter Russia, China and Daesh/IS.
“The West is badly in need of a reassertion of US leadership. The EU has been unable to generate any strategic thinking or to exercise convincing leadership. Russia (& China) are successfully driving wedges between EU Member States and between Allies within NATO. Brexit has added to the confusion.
The US also needs to rebuild its understanding of Russia and how to deal with it, so as to (a) improve its own governance at a time of transition, and (b) rebuild its leading role in Europe via NATO and via encouragement to the EU, to enable them to deal more effectively with the new challenge to our democratic structures and processes posed by Russia (and China, and Daesh/IS) today,” the documents recently leaked by the Anonymous state.
In other words British security experts welcome American military bases on European soil and supremacy of American national interests over the interests of European nations. They believe that American military power will save the Europeans from “Russian hybrid warfare”, Chinese expansion and jihadists. This approach looks more than flimsy.
The problem of IS sleeping agents in Europe has no military solution at all. China shows no intention to annex Europe; it sees the Old Continent as an attractive market but not as the battlefield.
The problem of “the Russian threat” is more complex. Today it more looks like a mirage widely used by mass media to fuel anti-Russian hysteria necessary to justify increase in defense spending. By February, it could turn into a Cold War-style standoff between Russia and the West as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced, that the US had given Russia 60 days to comply with the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty or it would no longer abide by the agreement and could produce, test and deploy new missiles in NATO member states. There is now doubt Moscow will respond in kind by deploying missiles in its Western regions.
The new political realities show imprudence of the approach to European security developed by the think-tankers from the Institute for Statecraft. American military facilities are the last things necessary for the Europeans to feel safe. What the Europeans really need to do is to stay away from the up-coming missile duel between Trump and Putin.
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Apparently, Europeans specialize in Orwellian weasel phrases just as much as the Anglo Americans. So-called American “leadership” itself is merely NewSpeak for American tyranny and domination. Unquestioned by the Euro-American imperialist nations in general is the criminal character of American “leadership” and the propagandistic nature of its “threat perceptions.” At base, the Europeans and Americans possess a warped belief that they have a God-given right to rule the world in all but name. This is their Manifest Destiny. Thus, any nation (like Russia and China) that stand in the way of Euro-Americans’ Manifest Destiny is smeared as a threat–carefully ignoring the reality that the USA and its European crime partners have waged multiple wars of aggression around the world (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen) and thus they are the true treat to peace on this planet. What’s more, it is an open secret that the self-styled “democracies” of America and… Read more »
George Carlin used to call it soft language. He made an excellent point years ago about shell shock being renamed battle fatigue the changed to operational exhaustion and the post-traumatic stress disorder all to hide reality behind Jargon
— call for “US leadership” in Europe —
US leadership means US economical and political colonisation with the military on stand-by, just-in–case.
No need to waste time looking for another meaning because there is none.
But there is one more element to this virtual colonization: Tightening the Zionist grip in the US ruling class, will mandate making it a crime to ‘criticise Israel’ in the US as well as in its virtual colonies.
Where is the Representative mandate for think tanks?
They have no electoral validity, are always funded by vested interests and always provide paid-for opinions to benefit their sponsors.
There is absolutely zero demand for Us leadership in Europe, the exact opposite in fact.
And lo and behold…. ABC News here in bootlicking Australia, aka deputy sheriff, has its lead story that…. ‘Trump Is Insulted By Questions He Ever Worked For Russia’ which yet again for the 973rd time (probably more) that the evil bloodthirsty Russians interfered in the U.S elections, and Trump is colluding with Putin and on and on. Do these bastards sit round reading 1984 to get inspiration for writing this garbage? Keep pushing the World to the edge of the abyss…..
Yeah, the ABC is as bad as any of the commercial propaganda outlets these days. And SBS is possibly worse.
I thought this little clip BTL today’s Saker Vineyard deserves a place on OffG’s thread about a UK Thonk Tank calling for “U$ Leadership”.
WageLaborer (note, U$ spelling) writes in despair: “We [presumably the People of the U$A] are the Clueless, led by the Insane, stumbling into Oblivion for the profits of the Greedy.”
What drives some Yanks to despair is the sight of their Leadership busy thonk-tanking about Lobbing Nuclear Weapons into various countries around the globe yet _totally unprepared_ for the consequences of somebody Lobbing One Back. I have been posting about this on and off for years under the heading, Real War, coming to a WalMart near You. But not being a WarCraft geek I had not realised how easily the U$A (as a functioning country) can be demolished — until I read today’s Saker.
https://thesaker.is/war-essay-the-consequences-of-nuclear-war-on-us-society/
OT, but covers most of the bases I was talking about the other day – re: the fracking flash in the pan.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/fracked-shale-oil-wells-drying-up-faster-than-predicted-wall-street-journal-finds/5665323
You know I wouldn’t lie to you!
So, Mike Plumpeo and John Dolton want to deploy missiles to Euro-stan? I wonder if we’ll see any mass protests this time around, such as when the Reagan Administration deployed the Pershing II missiles to West Germany back in the 80s:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1983/10/23/more-than-a-million-protest-missiles-in-western-europe/9d703245-36fa-40ce-8714-e281f796a472/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.73e4f4af7abe
You think the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament will act up this time around? I hope so!
So, the US is “able to generate strategic thinking and to exercise convincing leadership”?Where are they living, on the dark side of the moon!
You have no viable alternatives the majority of E U member states will never allow Germany to dominate E U defense policies again
They have tried twice in the last 100 years with disastrous consequences
Even in yesterday’s Telegraph Merkel is visiting Greece & is still refusing to pay any reparations for the horrors committed during the occupation
I rest my case
I sometimes honestly wonder whether Europe might not be better off today had the Germans won the war. Unlike Merkel, Hitler was not into austerity and he was definitely no captive of the banks. He chose to invade Russia, however, so we’ll never know …
So you justify the extermination of the Jews gypsies homosexuals disabled political aponants you really are a disgrace
Sorry, Mr. Wilson, but Mr. Padraig did not mention Jews, gypsies, homosexuals or disabled political opponents. Just as I am not mentioning the atrocities perpetrated by former kings of England. There was a lot more to Mr. Hitler than wiping out groups of people he did not like, abominable though his success in doing so certainly is. I think Padraig’s point is simply that by now we would have been accustomed to a different way of life, just as we are now accustomed to a way of life very different from that in Richard III’s England, or in Louis XIV’s France. It might not have been a very nice way of life, but by now we would be used to it. In any case, I don’t think our current leaders show any moral courage at all, and I don’t enjoy living with spineless leaders any more than I would enjoy… Read more »
He did not say that, you did. He is simply taking governance in isolation and I am sure he does not support the ‘exterminations’.
It would have been very easy to stop the war in 1940, after France had fallen. London could have simply negotiated a peace treaty with Berlin, and that would have ended it right there. The forced relocation of Jews to the Eastern Front did not begin until spring 1942, most likely triggered by Hitler’s fears that they would try and organize some kind of rebellion or resistance against Germany in order to benefit her enemies.
In short, I don’t believe all that was to follow had ever been written in stone. Different choices could have altered the course of history, perhaps for the better. That’s worth keeping in mind today.
I believe there were lots of reparations paid, all of them? finding their way into Swiss accounts. Letting uber-corrupt Greece into the EU was a reparation, over and above the fraudulent accounts abetted by Goldman Sachs.
I agree with everything in Henry’s post except for the first five words: ‘You have no viable alternative’. There are definitely viable alternatives, e.g. dumping NATO and building friendly, cooperative relations with Russia in place of the current witless, headless-chicken, arm-flapping, wolf-crying hysteria.
Re Germany: I’ve already said this in previous posts, but the immediate result of German reunification was the breakup of Yugoslavia. Germany instantly recognized Croatia as a nation after the latter’s unilateral declaration of independence, and it’s been downhill ever since.
NATO has definitely morfed from its original concept after the collapse of the Soviet Union this lead to the unification of Germany ( in reality the takeover of east Germany by West Germany) one voice who opposed this was Mrs Thatcher This was the catalyst for the disintegration of Yougoslavia & the Balklands wars Kosovar in reality a province of Serbia is now an E U protectorate & their are moves to cede territory back to Serbia ( Paddy Ashdown who died recently warned about setting this precedent) what about Germany & the territory lost to Poland after W W 2 Regarding Russia a golden opportunity to bring Russia in to the fold after the collapse of communism was blown largely in my opinion by the muppets that run the E U & NATO Everyone forgets history Russia has always been invaded from the west & any reaction to an… Read more »
Some of you may have heard about NewsGuard, yet another threat to alternative news sites, reported by Caitlin Johnston @ Medium, and also at MintPress News, this being yet another attempt to censor and squash alternate news. The usual suspects – Neocon slime are behind its implementation, with a big helping hand from the powers that be. Regards the above article, excellent post again on OffGuardian….. ‘by February, it could turn into a cold war style standoff between the United States and Russia’… I thought we were facing the end when Trump bombed Syria back in April. This insanity just goes on and on, with the stenographer scum in the ‘media’ continuously fanning the flames in their denunciations of Russia, China, Iran, etc. How much longer before a catastrophic mistake or misjudgement is made? I don’t have much hope at present unless there is a mass sustained uprising right across… Read more »
British think-tanks call for “US leadership” in Europe.
My own Private Think-Tank has gone even deeper into the problem: I call for U$ Leadership in the U$A.
The spread of the Yellow Plague. Last week in Holland a policeman had to arrest a young mother with baby, because she refused to remove her Yellow Jerkin.
And Yellow Jerkins in London:
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/01/12/protesters-don-yellow-vests-for-london-anti-austerity-march/
If Public Policy is to be shaped by Ordinary People, what will become of the Elite and their Think Tanks?
A few shouty gammons are not the yellow vests.
British Daily Mail published some new information about Dr. Kelly, Blair, Campbell and Hutton: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6585263/Damning-new-evidence-Dr-Kelly-DIDNT-commit-suicide.html
Deep state cabals infiltrated all influential parties so also Labour, Democrats, SPD etc. with the CIA as instructor. Democracies died thanks to tools like the Dulles brothers.
Blair is probably the no one war criminal still at large
Except for Bush.
An important point.
I mentioned this the other day, but it bears repetition: When Nancy Pelosi’s Democratic Party took over from Bush’s wretched, lying government, one expected some sort of repercussions. Instead, she simply declared that Bush’s impeachment was “off the table”, and the media let her get away with it. Dennis Kucenich, one of the few with the courage actually to do something about the previous criminal regime, formally instigated impeachment charges at around that time, but was simply ignored by the new government and the press.
Few even remember it now.
The UK is more of a satellite of the US than East Germany ever was of the Soviet Union. It’s quite pathetic and degrading how Uncle Sam’s European satellites crawl and grovel on their bellies to the US. People like Willian Hague with their really nauseating lickspittle toadying.
Good article! Interesting to read an article on consortiumnews.com :Covert British Military Smear Machine moving into US.
People don’t realise how close we came to nuclear war in 1962. Things were literally teetering on a knife edge. In 1961, there was the CIA invasion at the Bay of Pigs. There was also a terrorist campaign mounted from Florida, blowing up power stations and bridges that cost over 3,000 Cuban lives. Castro had had enough. After Uncle Sam had moved nuclear missiles into Turkey, so had Krushchev. He moved 40,000 troops into Cuba. Their commander was the Russian general who had defended Stalingrad 20 years before, fighting from house to house and from room to room. The Russians realised they were out on a limb, 90 miles from the US and thousands of miles from home, with a weaker navy. They knew that in the event of war, command and control would break down very quickly. Authority to use nuclear weapons was delegated right down to very low… Read more »
I’m glad to read someone with an objective viewpoint. The Soviets/Cubans had 162 warheads on the island, and were ready to use them. Castro was urging a first strike on Guantanamo. RFK and the JCS were pushing for an invasion, for which preparations continued AFTER the crisis, violating JFK’s agreement with Khrushchev. They had no idea the warheads were in place. Mongoose resumed at the end of the year. Whatever happened to JFK, he has to take the bulk of the blame for precipitating the Crisis. The Jupiters were obsolete; the blockade an act of war; and as for his idiot brother. Yet they have been rewritten as the poster boys for Empire, the heroes of the hour, saviours of mankind. And people lap it up without the slightest critical reasoning. Or , I have to say, the slightest historical acumen. If more people realised that we all nearly died,… Read more »
Uh, his reaction to Operation Northwoods was revulsion and to enable the exit of “mad dog” Lemnitzer.
Who is Sheldon Stern, who funds him and why do you dismiss Arthur Schlesinger’s opinions so readily? AS was there at the time and a Kennedy biographer. Stern dismisses him because he admired the Kennedys?
Mark
Slight correction: Arkhipov was the flotilla commander, but acting ExO (2IC) ..otherwise he would not have had the authority to countermand the order: averting nuclear war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov
I think it’s actually worse than that BigB. There was the man in charge, the captain, and the 2nd and 3rd officers. The first 2 agreed to use the nuclear weapons. The 3rd officer, the no.3 man, disagreed. And these decisions had to be taken when the boat was being depth charged and,sailors on board were fainting in 120 degree heat.
You correctly identify that it was the generals/admirals – who believe their own wargaming outcomes thay mean they consider using their deadly weapons and nukes – who are the ones who are raring to turn humans into canon fodder. But you incorrectly fail to see that our elected political leaders are the only control over the militarists (many are proud of their ancestral martial thuggery and keeping it in the family). The likes of Merkel/Trump strive to keep the Military Industrialists contained. They would rather the money was spent on Mercedes’s and golfing. Where as the likes of Macron/ May do the opposite. They want the munitions to be used. They are mere minions of MIC. It was just extremely lucky that there was a rational sailor on board that submarine. As there was in that ballistic missile centre where he decided that the imcoming blips were not a US… Read more »
Merkel/Trump a containment mechanism for the military/industrialists? I want some of whatever you are tokin’ DG!
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Can I just say, with all due respect, “fuck off America”. Look after your own continent. You are now welcome in ours (or anyone else’s).
Speaking personally I want peace and trade. I don’t want your wars.
Porky pig Pompeo and the John “walrus of death” Bolton need to be caged and kept at home in the US. Preferably in some nice orange suits.
now welcome or not welcome. Bit of a Freudian slip methinks.
“The Institute for Statecraft describes itself as “an independent body dedicated to refreshing the practice of statecraft, to improving governance and to enhancing national security”.
Translation: Statecraft are a bunch of neocon loons who will not sleep until they own every oil and gas field in the world, or until there are more dead than living people in the Middle East.
As an aside I wonder how many from this sinster fraternity attended a state school?
A survivor of state schools myself, I wondered whence this word “Statecraft” had emerged? Thucydides, Machiavelli, Bismarck, Churchill? And then I found a book with that title penned by one Margaret Thatcher. (I include a review by the last Governor of Hong Kong https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/mar/30/politics2). This usage by Thatcher would fit better these anti-intellectual dead-beats of the Little Englander warring-class who have openly threatened a coup if Corbyn is elected PM. This usage of the word craft puts a more sinister edge to words like Diplomacy, International Relations, Geo-Strategy. It has all the implications of the dark arts, as practiced by the likes of CIA and MI6 i.e. the very antitheses of “Democracy”, itself a word of infinite elasticity. It [Statecraft] is also reminiscent of the apparently turgid magnus opus by the loathsome Allan Dulles who wrote “The Craft of Intelligence” – another misnomer. Whichever schools the loons attend, there would… Read more »
A coup against Jeremy Corbyn! An everyday social-democrat portrayed as some sorrt of demented Marxist; If only! But no JC is a threat to capitalism,democracy the Queen, and christian civilization. The absolute stupidity and provincialism of these people is breathtaking. Ignorance is strength alright.
The rise of Corbyn flushed out the true nature of Britains establishment – basically a corrupt cabal of right wing ex-public school boys who loathe democracy, willing to turn a blind eye to any crime committed by neocons providing there is a bob or two in it for them.
The Guardian has become an increasingly important instrument in this network, on the one hand crying crocodile tears at Britains descent into a divided, violent and impoverished state on the other doing all they can to thwart political alternatives.
For example, any negative comment about Labour imposters like Luciana Berger is instantly deleted by the mods.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/eddie-mair/labour-mp-refuses-corbyn-be-good-for-britain/
Thinktanks like The Institute of Statecraft presumably feel emboldened by the feebleness of genuine plurality, knowing full well that when they invoke phrases like ‘enhancing national security’ they will be given great latitude when it comes to advocating dubious military initiatives.
LBC is a global broadcaster with the usual motives and ownership. The non stop propoganda dressed as vox pop doesn’t even attempt to be fair. That Berger interview and question/no answer routine was an obvious setup – to be replayed regularly as some meme – the anti JC electioneering is underway. Eddie Mair, like Carole Cadwalladr, has been revealed to be deep covered in shit propagandists as opposed to impartial mavericks they cultivated for many years. I like it that the DS is so panicked that they are outing their moles and having the ‘ex’security bosses threatening the Tory MP’s in an effort to achieve their only Plan – a hard brexit; a tie in with the US and the formal creation of the 5 eyed Gollum of ‘white’ supremacy. The Guardian is there to bring the peoples of these states to the same voice. It is not interested in… Read more »
I wonder why I think that this think tank is financially supported by US interests? The US is not the saviour of Europe and in fact, US interest in Europe is totally related to the proxy value Europe provides to the benefit of the US. Just consider the US sanctions against Russia. The US economy is not suffering from such sanctions but the EU economy certainly is! American military bases right net door to the Russian border makes the countries harbouring them, targets for Russian retaliation. Meanwhile the US mainland remains sacrosanct. I certainly hope that there is at least one intelligent EU leader who understands their subservient proxy relationship with the US and is ready to do something about it.
”I certainly hope that there is at least one intelligent EU leader who understands their subservient proxy relationship with the US and is ready to do something about it.”
I wouldn’t bank on it old chap. Europe is an occupied territory ruled by Petainist riff-raff and serves as the US’s Vichy geopolitical hinterland. If there is going to be any national liberation for Europe it will have to come from below since its ruling elites are owned by the occupying power.
Let’s call a spade a spade: this is no more a Think Tank than the Henry Jackson Society is a Research University. What we are seeing here are the views of the Security Services or, as we used to call them the Secret Police-the English language Gestapo. These people grew fat on the Cold War: can anyone imagine where Christopher Nigel would be if he had ever had to work for a living? Shivering on the edge of a used car lot, blowing his hands to keep them warm, is my guess. These people are begging for US leadership because, historically, it has meant bigger budgets for them, their only talent being a willingness to do the sort of jobs even the CIA find too sordid,(assassination for example or inserting agents into Bernie Sanders’ Presidential campaign) and doing business in a lingo even Washington’s politicians understand- English. And they are… Read more »
Important article, but you are too kind in your final paragraph: “The new political realities show imprudence of the approach to European security developed by the think-tankers from the Institute for Statecraft. American military facilities are the last things necessary for the Europeans to feel safe. What the Europeans really need to do is to stay away from the up-coming missile duel between Trump and Putin.” One of the best routes for insights into the US military mind (I say mind because we are dealing with the phenomenon of Group Think) is RFK’s “13 Days; A memoir of the Cuban Missile Crisis” because it shows their insanity and amorality which is something beyond the mild “imprudence” you bestow. Anything short of immediate confrontation is deemed “Appeasement” (as in Munich 1938) one of those words – like “Communism” – which stops all critical thinking faculties and triggers automatic, apoplectic, white-knuckled Pavlovian… Read more »
Re: ‘Thirteen Days’: well, you would think that, unless you ever actually read one of Sheldon M Stern’s three transcripts of the ExComm tapes. We’ve been having this back and forth for months: RFK was the worst of the hawks, pushing for invasion from day one. He advocated attacking Guantanamo: “You know, sink the Maine again or something!” It’s all in the transcripts: including Operation Mongoose, the assassination attempts on Castro, the invasion plans. RFK was chairman of the SGA: running Mongoose. The idea that just the military are insane needs revising: the politicians ain’t too savvy either. Further, it was Mongoose and the Jupiter deployment that got the US into the Crisis: and Khrushchev that got them out. If Bobby had his way, there would have been a nuclear exchange. The Russian’s had got the warheads through the act-of-war blockade. Douglass’ account is a contrived narrative combing elements of… Read more »
Hugh
I found this article (one of six) by Dr Stern. It confirms most of the salient points I made. Schlesinger’s ‘Bobby the Dove’ is a historic fiction that renders Thirteen Days obsolete as a source. It also renders Douglass’ ‘the Brothers Kennedy’ against the Unspeakable highly a questionable narrative fiction. How did they stand together if RFK was the chief hawk? Who were the Unspeakable? Who was chairing the dirty war on Cuba?
http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/159418
Saves you buying the book. 😉
BigB. You are clearly not a fan of either RFK or JFK, but you patently trust Sheldon Stern. How do we assign trust to some but not to others? There must be an element of our own bias being confirmed. Mea Maxima Culpa in that respect. I work from the simplistic notion that the good guys get assassinated – take your pick: Jesus, Gandhi, Hammarskjold, Lumumba, JFK, MLK, RFK. Once they are out of the way, it doesn’t take much to alter the historical record and forge fraudulent papers, which the CIA admitted to doing with JFK records. That is why I am very suspicious of those who hold up supposed proofs. On the positive side, I did find this defect of the historical record by one Sheldon Stern against the lies perpetrated by neo-con ‘academics’ May & Zelikow: http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=sheldon_m__stern_1 I will read the links you sent and comment upon… Read more »
BigB. I have read a bit more on the Stern oeuvre and whilst RFK gets tarred, JFK then emerges even more brilliantly as the only one to stand for Humanity. One reviewer of Stern’s [Myths vs Reality] book wrote: “For nearly half a century national security decision makers have relied on three lessons derived inappropriately from the Cuban missile crisis: success depends on (1) the threat of superior force, (2) toughness and inflexibility, and (3) the use of a small ad hoc group like the ExComm to advise the President. Sheldon Stern’s trenchant analysis, based on the most careful and exacting review to date of the ExComm’s recorded conversations, turns the three traditional missile crisis lessons on their head. He effectively demonstrates that the outcome depended on President Kennedy’s repeated refusal to use or threaten to use force, and on his persistent search for a compromise that could end the… Read more »
What can I say Hugh? You talk of confirmation bias: the reason I cite Stern is that he is also pro-JFK biased …he’s one of yours. Not only was he a JFK librarian, he was also the first, outside of the ExComm committee, to review the tapes. You have to read the transcripts and reconstructions, and make up your own mind. The simplistic black and white narrative is untenable. JFK considered ALL options: including a “post-Castro” Cuba. And the mood, as much as one can garner the mood from a narrative, was also shades of grey. There was even time for laughter, not much, but some. So Stern is also biased: but he has the intellectual honesty to keep it empirical. Zelikow is a traitor, whose rewriting of history (the 9/11 commission) rules him out of any reasonable discussion. So if we accept Stern’s view that JFK acted diplomatically to… Read more »
Morning BigB. Once more into the breach! (Apologies to OG readers for the tangential debate). Firstly, I am biased towards JFK for many reasons, and yes there are aspects of RFK which give cause for doubt – a very complex man. To borrow a line from Lippmann (See OG Chomsky): trying to make sense of any subject is like a theatre-goer coming in at the 3rd Act and leaving before the end, except in this case, both brothers were assassinated by the State. So what were there beliefs and attitudes which they grew up with? Their much maligned father Joe Kennedy was always an outsider, not entirely trusted by the US elite, whether in Boston, Washington , Wall Street or Hollywood. Despite his pacifist views, 3 of his sons volunteered for WWII i.e. they were not prisoners of his views, but more succumbed to the unstoppable forces of Patriotism and… Read more »
I don’t have much time this morning: but I can see why we have different opinions …we have different facts. I checked the ExComm version of October 27th. To frame it in perspective: they had received both of Krushchev’s offers (one secret; one public) and met to decide the response. After JFK noting the Jupiter’s were redundant: the discussion was on which offer to respond to (the fictive ‘Trollope Ploy’). When it came time to send a brief to RFK (who was on his way to meet Dobrynin) they mooted telling him – not of a coup, Hugh – but that they were ready to carry out a full scale invasion. Somewhat different from your version. Did that come from Douglass? At Rusk’s prompting, what they elected to tell RFK was that there would be no quid pro quo (Turkey/Cuba missile swap) in public – but that they could remove… Read more »
“I work from the simplistic notion that the good guys get assassinated “.
More proof that it is a mistake to underestimate the influence that Trotsky has had.
“There is now doubt Moscow will respond in kind by deploying missiles in its Western regions.” or there is no doubt?
NATO was formed to keep the U S in Europe & to keep Germany down this is just as nessary today as it was in 1945
Yup. NATO’s very first Secretary General, Lord Ismay, even admitted that the organization’s goal was “to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down“.
The problem with this for me is just that NATO has gone way beyond that mandate, and now represents American interests alone.
74 years after the end of WW2, are we seriously talking about “keeping Germany down”, when we might just as well talk about keeping the French down after defeating them at Agincourt in 1415!
But, look! What’s this? Denmark also has American military bases on its territory! Could that mean that Denmark, too, might be a threat to US interests abroad? Well, perhaps it might. But let’s relax. NATO will fix that.
I could understand my grandfather and my father sharing such concerns as yours, but they didn’t have to live in a world with Bushes, Cheneys, Trumps, Erdogans, Macrons, Mays and Clintons – all warmongers.
And just why is it necessary to keep the US in Europe? Or in any of the 70 countries where their military bases serve no interests but their own?
For the moment there is doubt. Reading between the lines: McCain’s ‘markup’ two years ago, predating the threatened pullout from the INF, suggests to me that the project to manufacture an intermediate range missile is already under way. I further suspect that Pompeo is bluffing. What would he do if Russia complied? We only have NATO’s assertion that they ever broke the Treaty. And the concerted press smear to validate that specious claim. It’s all a con to service the grand narrative that the US is an exemplar in its conduct. So much so that other nations should follow their exceptional lead. I think we both know where that particular path ends? So, ‘now’ there is doubt; soon there will be ‘no’ doubt, as the IRBM missiles are installed in the Baltic states? US diplomacy at it’s finest (I think it’s called the ‘Truman Ploy’? Issue an ultimatum for unconditional… Read more »
“What would he do if Russia complied?”
Good question. Syria complied over both nukes and bioweapons. Observe how that turned out.