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		By: Martin Usher		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68690</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Usher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2019 19:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68641&quot;&gt;UreKismet&lt;/a&gt;.

Our local rag, the Los Angeles Times, duly trotted out an OpEd piece on Veneuzela when this latest &#039;crisis&#039; hit that pressed all the right buttons. It talked about an unpopular, incompetent, President that was elected by dubious electoral techniques, a popularly elected assembly that was opposed to him and so on. I thought it was an exercise in irony and wrote a short note to the editor pointing this out since the talking points could quite easily apply to the US. I kept away from questioning the veracity of their assertions -- it wasn&#039;t important in this case, just take what was written at face value and change a few names. I did point out that it was unfortunate that it was an oil producer since states that produce this commodity that don&#039;t play the (our) game seem to suffer unfortunate outbreaks of &quot;freedom and democracy&quot;. Obviously it didn&#039;t get published but, more significantly, every week they publish a numerical summary of letters to the editor and Venezuela didn&#039;t figure at all in the count. Interesting.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68641">UreKismet</a>.</p>
<p>Our local rag, the Los Angeles Times, duly trotted out an OpEd piece on Veneuzela when this latest &#8216;crisis&#8217; hit that pressed all the right buttons. It talked about an unpopular, incompetent, President that was elected by dubious electoral techniques, a popularly elected assembly that was opposed to him and so on. I thought it was an exercise in irony and wrote a short note to the editor pointing this out since the talking points could quite easily apply to the US. I kept away from questioning the veracity of their assertions &#8212; it wasn&#8217;t important in this case, just take what was written at face value and change a few names. I did point out that it was unfortunate that it was an oil producer since states that produce this commodity that don&#8217;t play the (our) game seem to suffer unfortunate outbreaks of &#8220;freedom and democracy&#8221;. Obviously it didn&#8217;t get published but, more significantly, every week they publish a numerical summary of letters to the editor and Venezuela didn&#8217;t figure at all in the count. Interesting&#8230;..</p>
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		By: falcemartello1		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[falcemartello1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2019 12:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68686&quot;&gt;Kandeggina&lt;/a&gt;.

@Kandeggina 
Luv the name Kandeggina]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68686">Kandeggina</a>.</p>
<p>@Kandeggina<br />
Luv the name Kandeggina</p>
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		By: mark		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68688</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2019 12:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68643&quot;&gt;Frankly Speaking&lt;/a&gt;.

It doesn&#039;t really matter whether you have an orange trained monkey or a black trained monkey or a woman trained monkey or a gay trained monkey or even a trannie trained monkey in the White House, it&#039;s all the same to its Zionist organ grinder, just so ,long as it rattles its little tin cup on cue. You could just as well vote for a pig&#039;s bladder on a stick for all the difference it makes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68643">Frankly Speaking</a>.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t really matter whether you have an orange trained monkey or a black trained monkey or a woman trained monkey or a gay trained monkey or even a trannie trained monkey in the White House, it&#8217;s all the same to its Zionist organ grinder, just so ,long as it rattles its little tin cup on cue. You could just as well vote for a pig&#8217;s bladder on a stick for all the difference it makes.</p>
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		By: mark		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68687</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2019 12:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68660&quot;&gt;comite espartaco&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, these &quot;toothless spics&quot; apparently need the Three Amigos, Pompeo, Abrams, and Bolton (or maybe the Three Stooges) an odd ragbag of warmongers, convicted perjurers, death squad and torture queens, war criminals and corporate lobbyists, to decide what is best for these poor benighted lesser breeds in the interests of &quot;democracy&quot; and select an IMF approved candidate to rule over them, So much more convenient than free and fair democratic elections. Why, Bolton is even thoughtfully and helpfully offering to haul off the elected president of Venezuela in chains like they did with their uppity satrap Noriega to his own cell in the Guantanamo Concentration Camp.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68660">comite espartaco</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, these &#8220;toothless spics&#8221; apparently need the Three Amigos, Pompeo, Abrams, and Bolton (or maybe the Three Stooges) an odd ragbag of warmongers, convicted perjurers, death squad and torture queens, war criminals and corporate lobbyists, to decide what is best for these poor benighted lesser breeds in the interests of &#8220;democracy&#8221; and select an IMF approved candidate to rule over them, So much more convenient than free and fair democratic elections. Why, Bolton is even thoughtfully and helpfully offering to haul off the elected president of Venezuela in chains like they did with their uppity satrap Noriega to his own cell in the Guantanamo Concentration Camp.</p>
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		By: Kandeggina		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68686</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kandeggina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2019 21:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68673&quot;&gt;falcemartello1&lt;/a&gt;.

Lol, Idiocracy. I feel the same]]></description>
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<p>Lol, Idiocracy. I feel the same</p>
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		By: Joerg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joerg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 20:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68684&quot;&gt;Joerg&lt;/a&gt;.

@ ADMIN / OffG
this is the third time my comments don&#039;t appear where I placed them.

My answer to vexarb (https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-145148) was supposed to be placed under vexarb&#039;s comment of https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-145026]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68684">Joerg</a>.</p>
<p>@ ADMIN / OffG<br />
this is the third time my comments don&#8217;t appear where I placed them.</p>
<p>My answer to vexarb (<a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-145148" rel="ugc">https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-145148</a>) was supposed to be placed under vexarb&#8217;s comment of <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-145026" rel="ugc">https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-145026</a></p>
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		By: Joerg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joerg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 20:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68677&quot;&gt;vexarb&lt;/a&gt;.

@vexarb
... no all thanks to You. I didn&#039;t even know, who Pawel Kuczynski was. Just picked up his cartoon some 5 years ago.  
Great link you gave me!]]></description>
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<p>@vexarb<br />
&#8230; no all thanks to You. I didn&#8217;t even know, who Pawel Kuczynski was. Just picked up his cartoon some 5 years ago.<br />
Great link you gave me!</p>
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		By: vexarb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vexarb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 18:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68680&quot;&gt;Joerg&lt;/a&gt;.

Joerg, many thanks for introducing me to Pawel Kuczynski: graphic artist and anti-war philosopher. The gentleness of his pictures is as genial as the directness of his message. So sweet and green and brown and pastoral was the scene in your Link, it took me some time to realise that tall column in front of The White House was the long nose of Pinocchio. 

https://www.pictorem.com/profile/Pawel.Kuczynski]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68680">Joerg</a>.</p>
<p>Joerg, many thanks for introducing me to Pawel Kuczynski: graphic artist and anti-war philosopher. The gentleness of his pictures is as genial as the directness of his message. So sweet and green and brown and pastoral was the scene in your Link, it took me some time to realise that tall column in front of The White House was the long nose of Pinocchio. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.pictorem.com/profile/Pawel.Kuczynski" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.pictorem.com/profile/Pawel.Kuczynski</a></p>
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		By: Badger Down		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68682</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Badger Down]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 08:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/01/30/venezuela-a-study-in-opinion-manufacture/#comment-68670&quot;&gt;kingfelix&lt;/a&gt;.

You might as well say: We know how to cross the road, so there&#039;s no point in teaching children how to do it.]]></description>
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<p>You might as well say: We know how to cross the road, so there&#8217;s no point in teaching children how to do it.</p>
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