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Owen Smith and his fantasy league EU

Philip Roddis

Remember this man? It’s close to three years ago he split the delightfully small Anyone-But-Corbyn vote when Angela Eagle, too lacking in self awareness to see she was just a stalking horse, made her ridiculous bid for Labour leadership in July 2016.

I say ‘ridiculous’ advisedly, given her parliamentary history and embarrassing lack of bona fides. But it’s Owen not Angela I have in mind here. Yesterday the Guardian ran his piece, Face the facts … Lexit is dead.

Now I have a drop or two of sympathy with that sentiment, though for reasons far removed from his. I’ll get to those in a moment. First a reminder not to take the specifics of any attack on Jeremy Corbyn – with this piece an unusually sugar coated example – at face value. As with war on Syria, shooting terrorists for Laura, IRA funeralgate, Hamasgate, VirginTraingate, CrapDressergate and the antisemite slurs, Smith’s piece folds specific charges – by rightwing Labour members who may or may not believe them true but operate on a Needs Must When the Devil Drives basis – into the ongoing project to remove the first Labour leader in living memory to challenge ‘austerity’ in the name of social justice.

Smith begins:

The Labour party should have known which side it was on in this Brexit debate a long time ago. Our belief in equality, freedom and internationalism should have meant that we knew there could be no “jobs-first” Brexit, no Labour Brexit, or indeed any Brexit that we could accept. We should have been more passionate in the fight against a leave campaign that was always a project of the right, for the right and by the right. At times, we pretended there might be a deal that wouldn’t eat into the political and financial capital that a radical Labour government needs. We failed to mention that there were leftwing allies in Europe who could help us achieve our goals.

Two things about this paragraph. In its first sentence we see a dismissal of millions of Leavers, many in the Labour heartlands, as Wrongheaded Plebs whose views should not be given time of day. Smith – in bed with Big Pharma, and paid lobbyist for a biotech firm fined a cool three-quarter billion dollars for “pursuing profits at the risk of patient safety” – exudes the contempt, laced with revolving door venality, in which New Labour holds workers. Too clever to come out and say so, his opening shot is Graunspeak for Leave Voters Are Racists and Morons.

My second issue is with that little word, always, tucked into sentence three. This is where things get tricky. Precisely because the issue has been so damaging to the Tory Party, which of course is why we are where we are, the left case against the EU has not since the seventies been heard in the mainstream. While Smith alludes in his short piece to Tony Benn, he does so fleetingly:

For decades the EU has been viewed by some on the hard left as an obstacle to the socialist transformation of the UK. Tony Benn fought against the UK remaining part of Europe in the 1975 referendum. And his allies believed that the EU was undemocratic, a proxy for elitist neoliberal globalisation through alliances with the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and others. That view soon became overtaken by the EU’s emergence as a defender of workers, human rights and the environment that made Boris Johnson boil with rage, first as a journalist and then as a Tory politician.

It’s a measure of Smith’s alignment with the Extreme Centre that he can refer to Tony Benn, a classic parliamentarian and old style fabian, as ‘hard left’ but I’ll let that pass. My objection is to that breezy depiction of the EU as “defender of workers, human rights and the environment”. Its cosmetic stances may indeed make Boris boil – or as I say, pretend to – but try telling Greeks on below subsistence pensions that the EU defends workers. Try telling those who fought to have the iniquities of TTIP exposed, while the EU did its damnedest to sneak them in, that it puts People Before Profits. And try telling Extinction Rebellion that the EU is serious about threats to our environment from the deadly laws of capital accumulation – laws that reward Smith but make a mockery of Brussels attempts to paper over widening cracks in the delicate ecosystems that make Planet Earth inhabitable.

As Upton Sinclair famously observed, it’s hard to get a man to see a truth his salary depends on him not seeing.

Smith makes no mention of such things. Nor does he counter those claims, with which I agree, that the EU allies with an IMF and World Bank that serve as outrunners for super exploitation in the global south, of which the Brussels bankers are prime beneficiaries. Rather, he leaves the claims dangling. Too ridiculous for words? Or marking the outer – there be dragons – limits of Smith’s comfort zone? Either way, this pretender was no more fit than Eagle to replace Corbyn.

And yet … there’s a scintilla of truth in that last cited passage, a scintilla he stumbles on in his claim that the “leave campaign … was always a project of the right”. Well it wasn’t always and isn’t the entire picture now but, that exercise in revisionism aside, I agree that its current form is so dominated by rightwing voices as to leave Lexit in the dust. Which is why I get stick from all sides on Brexit. In the run up to the Referendum I had long arguments with Lexiteers – some of them in Trotskyite splinter sects – armed with EU analyses far superior to those of mainstream Remainers and Leavers both, but unable to tell me just how a Brexit led by such throwbacks as Jacob Rees Mogg, and such rank opportunists as Boris, could in the current climate possibly be a gain for workers.

Of all the arguments I could make to show the lack of realpolitik here, let me cite two. One is the joy with which, on the morning of June 26 2016, Europe’s far right, from France’s National Front to Hungary’s Jobbik, reacted to the news from London. The other is that Yannis Varoufakis – a man who, having stared into the dead eyes of the EU in its cold, mercilessly neoliberal true form, has more reason than most to loathe it – sees no viable alternative to reform from within.

Now if you tell me Varoufakis, a man with a sound grasp of how the world works, is himself not realistic here – that an EU predicated on neoliberalism in a predatory global order can no more be reformed than can the US Empire – you’re preaching to the choir. For all his intelligence, and a command of history that puts Smith’s philistine ramblings to shame; for all his erudition and powers of analysis too, Varoufakis is open to the charge of whistling in the wind on this matter.

All the same, until I hear what I haven’t so far heard – the outlining of a convincing strategy for securing post-Brexit social justice in the current climate – I can’t, alas, take Lexit seriously. That this view coincides superficially with Owen Smith’s is regrettable, but I can live with the fact.

My vote on Brexit? None. Of. The. Above. Sorry about that. I don’t like it any more than you do.

I’ll work on it.

In the meantime, since his name has come up, I’m mulling on the words – as best I recall them – of one Leon Trotsky. The context was the sectarianism on the German Left which, eschewing tactical alliance with the Social Democrats, allowed Hitler to take office and then power.

Suppose two men are trying to kill me. One is armed with a revolver while the other slips small doses of arsenic into my daily porridge. How I respond is not a question of ‘lesser evil’ but the needs of the hour. My first act, surely, is not to neutralise the poisoner but to disarm the gunman and use his weapon to kill both of my would be assassins.

Say what you like about old Leon – a superb writer, by the way – he knew a thing or two about the difference between principles and priorities.

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Durpo
Durpo
Apr 13, 2019 8:04 PM

It’s true!

JOHN CHUCKMAN
JOHN CHUCKMAN
Apr 11, 2019 10:01 PM

Week after week, when Corbyn had to win his leadership for a second time, this boring creep was featured almost daily in The Guardian.

Every time he opened his mouth, someone from The Guardian was there to take down his undistinguished words and photograph him.

Pathetic. Obvious.

But that’s today’s Guardian, day-in, day-out.

Animal Farm
Animal Farm
Apr 9, 2019 10:08 AM

https://sputniknews.com/business/201904091073949259-france-europe-usa-airbus-tariffs/

Dont worry folks you do get to leave the EU and with France no less. Cant wait to see Merkels face when she realises Macron is a US stooge whose job it is to deliver AirBus to the septic tanks. He is selling everything to them.

hauptmanngurski
hauptmanngurski
Apr 10, 2019 3:32 AM
Reply to  Animal Farm

Not so fast – yesterday’s news are already obsolete.

Today we read that there will be an agreement between the EU (led by France in this case) and China on reforming WTO. That’s a good axis, from Le Havre to Shanghai and everything in between. Of course there will be more airbus sales when boeing has shot themselves in the foot. Trump had invited Macron to dinner in the WH and the real Emperor was there, too, Rupert M. But then Trump still slapped the tariffs on France and Macron has not been the same since. US and Brits go confrontational and noisy – Europeans and Chinese move forward quietly. The EU will survive and in 20 years time Britain will see it as advantageous to ask if they may rejoin.

Pretard
Pretard
Apr 9, 2019 7:17 AM

https://tomluongo.me/2019/04/06/germany-dead-economy-walking/

The yellow vests and Brexit are a preplanned pincer designed to destroy the EU so that 10 kingdoms can rise in its place. Macron is doing his bit. And May is doing hers.

Anna
Anna
Apr 8, 2019 10:07 PM

I voted remain ostensibly on better environmental regulations (and worker’s rights) but this was before the Troika destroyed Greece and before I discovered Cory Morningstar’s meticulously researched blog – The Art of Annihilation, on the exploitation of good intentions… http://www.theartofannihilation.com/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-a-decade-of-social-manipulation-for-the-corporate-capture-of-nature-crescendo/ “On February 21, 2019, the European Commission was the latest to embrace and promote Thunberg: “The teenager opened a European Commission event in front of President Jean-Claude Juncker where she told politicians to stop ‘sweeping their mess under the carpet for our generation to clean up.’” Here again, Thunberg’s demands, on behalf of the youth participating in the climate strikes, are identified: “We want you to follow the Paris agreement and the IPCC reports we don’t have any other manifests or demands. Just unite behind the science. That is our demand.” [Video] Here we have three key players of capitalist hegemony, the World Bank, the World Economic Forum and the… Read more »

Chris Barclay
Chris Barclay
Apr 15, 2019 1:08 PM
Reply to  Anna

Just wondering how you voted in the 2016 referendum before the EU screwed Greece in 2015.

Nixon Scrapes
Nixon Scrapes
Apr 18, 2019 9:40 PM
Reply to  Anna

There’s a lot of interesting information about Gail Bradbrook at nowhere.news which I have been recently acquainted with.

Anna
Anna
Apr 19, 2019 4:51 PM
Reply to  Nixon Scrapes

Thanks, Nixon. Looks like just my sort of site – will keep me busy 😉

Gwyn
Gwyn
Apr 8, 2019 9:44 PM

Truly, Owen Smith is the non-entity’s non-entity. A man so dull, paint watches HIM dry.

Hang on a sec – who was this article about, again? I’ve already forgotten.

mark
mark
Apr 9, 2019 3:06 AM
Reply to  Gwyn

He was an Ace Viagra Salesman.

bevin
bevin
Apr 8, 2019 6:45 PM

Parliament, in which the bulk of the Opposition is in agreement with the government and opposed to carrying out the mandate of withdrawing from the EU, is part of the problem. But the real problem is parliamentary fetishism itself. It might have been deduced that a referendum vote was necessary because the public distrusted Parliament and insisted on making its views clear in the face of Parliament. And that, because this was so, because the vote to Leave was so contradictory of the known and often expressed views of most MPs and of all major political parties-the leaders of which campaigned for the losing side, it might have been obvious that the time had come to take this matter to the streets, to build a mass movement around a platform of leaving the EU and taking concrete measures to transform society to replace an arrangement the majority rejected. Instead not… Read more »

BigB
BigB
Apr 8, 2019 3:20 PM

Principles and priorities: I can only speak for myself – because it is not part of the consensus criticism …but entropy renders the EU and globalisation – not as redundant – but as omnicidal and inimical to all life. I have provided more detailed analysis elsewhere – but EU/NATO Atlantic Integrationism is a prelude to perhaps the final act of humanity. As an oppositional force to Eurasian Integrationism – in the big non-nuclear proxy hybrid warfare for what material resources – particularly energy resources – that are left …well, we risk checking out as an unviable species – even is only by mistake. The EU have usurped our sovereignty and unified our military under its own command and control structure – presented by Mogherini as a ‘fait accomplis’ – at the Munich Security Conference. We are now under a satrapy government of occupation – a peripheralised EU protectorate under the… Read more »

writerroddis
writerroddis
Apr 8, 2019 5:00 PM
Reply to  BigB

As ever with your comments, BigB, there’s much food for thought. But allow me to make an observation as one who, a few fundamental differences with you notwithstanding, has long respected your sincerity and intelligence. It saddens me therefore to see you indulging in cheap ad hominems – “Varoukafascist”, “class traitor Corbyn” – more worthy of the juvenile minority here than of your normally mature prose.

BigB
BigB
Apr 8, 2019 7:05 PM
Reply to  writerroddis

Sorry Phillip: but given the level of betrayal that our so-called leaders are showing they are capable of – tensions are running high. They are with me anyway. OK, ‘Varoukafascist’ is a cheap shot: but ‘class traitor Corbyn is not. From the long list of his betrayals of humanity – from supporting the White Helmets and regime change in Syria (by proxy support of the charity regime-change Jo Cox Foundation); made ambivalent by his public position of opposing intervention (characterised by his speech “Many more have been killed by the Assad regime than by ISIL itself” …three months before 163 children were blown apart by NATO proxies at Rashidin – as you must have seen me comment to time and time again. He is not just confused: he has been playing a deliberate cat and mouse game with his adoring public – one I have been keen to draw attention… Read more »

barovsky
barovsky
Apr 8, 2019 7:55 PM
Reply to  BigB

There is a very clear Constitutional protocol in this country – we vote: the MPs are Constitutionally obligated to carry out our will. Anyone who does not is in abrogation of their oath to the Queen and duty to the public. Suffice to say: that includes Corbyn. No they’re not! Unfortunately, eg, the ‘Independent Group’. Unfortunately, the biggest ‘mistake’ the Momentum mob made was not fighting for selection/deselection at the local branch level to be mandatory. They’re all party nomenclatura, including JC, the whole fucking damn lot of them! They’ve betrayed the millions they claim to represent in order to hang on to their so-called power. It’s been this way for decades and the rest of the ‘left’ have gone along with it, aside from the scurrilous ‘Entryists’ and their sectarian, juvenile bullshit. Once JC committed to the Election drive[l], game over. As I’ve said many times, JC is a… Read more »

Tim Lever
Tim Lever
Apr 9, 2019 12:19 AM
Reply to  BigB

“charity regime-change Jo Cox Foundation” what’s that? Just interested

crank
crank
Apr 9, 2019 10:47 AM
Reply to  BigB

Entropy news at peakprosperity.com if anyone not already reading about this angle. As the Ghawar oil field enters permanent decline and the shale oil starts to dry, as more and more people wake up to the increasingly obvious Federal Reserve manipulations of the bond and stock markets, as a whole generation of young people start to conclude that there is a much harder future of survival awaiting them we see the emergence of societal collapse consciousness. This is characterised by three responses : (1) a double down denial which sees a system merely in need of ‘adjustments’, (2) a magical thinking of techno-utopian psuedosocialism which just ignores the realites of entropic arguments; or, (3) despair. None of them are that useful. I think that many amongst the elites know what is coming and are getting prepared, whilst few among us really consider the wider picture when discussing Labour, Brexit…. ….or… Read more »

BigB
BigB
Apr 9, 2019 3:03 PM
Reply to  crank

Gail Tverberg predicted the collapse of ‘Fanny and Freddie’ (Mae and Mac) a year or so before it happened – using biophysical analysis. I’ve listened to her ever since: though I can’t quite capitulate to the neo-nihilist “We’re doomed …we’re all doomed” conclusion she has drawn. And therein lies the problem – the scenario is bleak. Time and entropy are inexorable. It is easier to do fantasy negentropic economics – toward the idealised future, where poverty, disease, environmental catastrophe, gender politics and breast-feeding shaming are all fixed by exponentially increased wealth …a fantasy hopium Esperanto that is extant only in the collective pseudo-socialist imagination. There is an undeclared element of time-symmetry (time is reversible and can flow either way) – pull a few economic levers and we will be back in a fully employed, trade unionism mediated, workers paradise of the post-war Keynesian “Trente Glorieuses”. Is that the workers fully… Read more »

rogerglewis
rogerglewis
Apr 8, 2019 1:17 PM

https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.com/2019/03/20/free-market-capitalism-its-their-future-i-had-a-brilliant-idea-for-21st-century-economics-a-live-streamed-dialogue-on-money-banking-and-political-economy-tina-the-village-bike-or-templ/ The its left its right , in or out is best leaves the meat of the whole subject unbothered by and serious questioning. 1. The Military Industrial Complex 2. The Money Power 3. The Corporate revolving door 4. United States Dollar hegemony ( Peanac) 5. Oceana or Eurasis 6. Brave New World for the 3% 7. 1984 for the 97% https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.com/2019/03/12/the-military-industrial-complex-and-brexit-a-hypothesis-eumilitaryunification-brexit-brino-jocox-annalindh-olofpalme-tina/ THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX AND BREXIT. A HYPOTHESIS. #EUMILITARYUNIFICATION #BREXIT #BRINO #JOCOX #ANNALINDH #OLOFPALME #TINA Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch’entrate Through me you go to the grief wracked city; Through me you go to everlasting pain; Through me you go a pass among lost souls. Justice inspired my exalted Creator: I am a creature of the Holiest Power, of Wisdom in the Highest and of Primal Love. Nothing till I was made was made, only eternal beings. And I endure eternally. Abandon all hope — Ye Who Enter… Read more »

rogerglewis
rogerglewis
Apr 8, 2019 1:16 PM

https://bit.tube/play?hash=QmWLhEhdZPvTaL4dyF4XQ4do32pVaB1UWh3YUjvAYvegg1&channel=285685

This is a project I am involved in looking to provide tools for Canton Model direct democracy to work bu using a Wiki and a Dapp on the Open Source Web. ( Web 3)

https://bit.tube/play?hash=QmZHYQMmid5R26qos1wE8mTmkT2wXLxoazX46m4ZH4YN3r&channel=285685

In a democracy to talk of left Brexit or Right Brexit is playing the age old game that disenfranchises the vast majority of people. Oversight and accountability are what keeps any consented to governing institutions from going against its electorate. The EU and the House of commons are both rogue and illegitimate in that respect.

The EU by Tony Benn’s own tests is far worse.

“What power have you got?”

“Where did you get it from?”

“In whose interests do you use it?”

“To whom are you accountable?”

“How do we get rid of you?”

To step outta babylon

http://www.suesupriano.com/audio/RichardMoore01.mp3

Lets unify and stand aligned stepping outta Babylon

http://www.suesupriano.com/article.php

rogerglewis
rogerglewis
Apr 8, 2019 1:15 PM

Labels die and go out of fashion. Liberty and the Idea of freedom and justice live forever, Its a question of Emergence not emergency of Free will and not determinism. Agnosticism and Atheism are workable in our human psychology but to abandon hope is ill advised and perhaps not really possible. Work without Hope BY SAMUEL TAYLOR COLERIDGE Lines Composed 21st February 1825 All Nature seems at work. Slugs leave their lair— The bees are stirring—birds are on the wing— And Winter slumbering in the open air, Wears on his smiling face a dream of Spring! And I the while, the sole unbusy thing, Nor honey make, nor pair, nor build, nor sing. Yet well I ken the banks where amaranths blow, Have traced the fount whence streams of nectar flow. Bloom, O ye amaranths! bloom for whom ye may, For me ye bloom not! Glide, rich streams, away! With… Read more »

ronan1882
ronan1882
Apr 8, 2019 12:10 PM

I don’t see Britain’s trading relationship with the EU as being a political hill worth dying on and I doubt many other people do if they are honest. Polling ranking voters’ concerns on the eve of the 2015 election ranked the EU 19th out of 20 listed issues. However, a democratic vote was taken – the biggest in national history – and every angle discussed ad infinitum in the months leading up to the referendum. The only sensible course is to honour the referendum result in the same way the 1974 referendum result was honoured, without more ludicrously prolonged delay. Otherwise the suspicion will grow that an anti-democratic stich up is at hand.

Yarkob
Yarkob
Apr 8, 2019 2:34 PM
Reply to  ronan1882

“Otherwise the suspicion will grow that an anti-democratic stich up is at hand.”

that boat sailed on the 29th March

Bryan
Bryan
Apr 8, 2019 10:17 AM

Good work Mr Roddis. We need to have this discussion because this is where the vast majority of people in Britain that we would hope to be receptive to left of centre views are at – and we need to engage with them, however difficult, and fraught that will be.

Agree entirely with ‘none of the above’ and like the clarity of the Trotsky quote – just struggling to work out which revolver to grab first – disarm the hard brexiteers to avoid neo liberalism on steroids or grapple with the drift towards fascism that will be exacerbated by anything from soft to no Brexit.

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Apr 8, 2019 11:27 AM
Reply to  Bryan

It seems that there is nothing new under the sun. Mr Roddis’ arguments seem to be a rerun of the lesser ‘evilist’ school of political expediency. Let’s go around the circuit again. You join the Remainer campaign in order to reform the EU from within. But of course you don’t really believe that this is possible (and you’d be very foolish to do so); however you have to keep mum and pretend that it is, hoping for a few crumbs along the way. Then you believe you will have your victorious moment when the inevitable failure takes place: you will have been exonerated and proven to have been right all along. Unfortunately by then it will be too late; you will have effectively been integrated into the political establishment just like Tspiras, and Syriza or the ‘left’ (sic) German Greens, the most vociferous pro-EU NATO party in Europe, Cohn-Bendit being… Read more »

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Apr 8, 2019 11:28 AM
Reply to  Francis Lee

Martin Luther King Jr. BTW

John
John
Apr 8, 2019 9:35 AM

You quoted well know spy and all round charlatan Leon Trotsky! What the actual fuck!?

Glasshopper
Glasshopper
Apr 8, 2019 9:26 AM

The first few albums were great but he started to lose me after Blood and Chocolate.

lundiel
lundiel
Apr 8, 2019 9:20 AM

Bill Mitchell and Thomas Farzi have imo naild why the EU can’t be reformed in simple easily understandable terms: https://braveneweurope.com/thomas-fazi-and-william-mitchell-the-eu-cannot-be-democratised-heres-why

“To conclude, any belief that the EU can be ‘democratised’ and reformed in a progressive direction is a pious illusion. Not only would this require an impossible alignment of left movements/governments to emerge simultaneously at the international level. On a more fundamental level, a system that was created with the specific aim of constraining democracy cannot be democratised. It can only be rejected.”

I don’t even know why we are having this discussion.

writerroddis
writerroddis
Apr 8, 2019 10:09 AM
Reply to  lundiel

Er, because Britain stands toxically divided?

Maggie
Maggie
Apr 8, 2019 12:46 PM
Reply to  writerroddis

Writer Roddis – Britain stands toxically divided because there are still so many who rely on the MSM presstitutes for their daily brainwash.
Whilst searching for Brexit opinions I happened upon ”Grassroots Out” and don’t understand why more wasn’t been made of this movement.. Even here on Off G.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8cF93B58Vw

Here is how Brexit should have been handled – cross party.

I have been very wary of Farage and Galloway, believing them to be just too honest? But now I see that they are ‘exactly’ what our country needs to get back on track.
I would like to see Jeremy Corbyn with them, but sadly feel he has lost his way.

different frank
different frank
Apr 8, 2019 2:19 PM
Reply to  Maggie

Farage Honest?
Really?????

jdseanjd
jdseanjd
Apr 9, 2019 7:55 PM
Reply to  writerroddis

Roddis, UK divisions have exactly zero bearing upon the impossibility of reforming the Fascist EU from inside.
John Doran.

barovsky
barovsky
Apr 9, 2019 8:00 PM
Reply to  jdseanjd

Correction: The EU is not fascist, it’s imperialist.

jdseanjd
jdseanjd
Apr 10, 2019 11:01 AM
Reply to  barovsky

Nope. The EU works on the exact same lobbying system as the US. Money buys govt.
It’s both Fascist & Imperialist.
A perfect part of the Western Rothschild Bankster Empire.
JD.

barovsky
barovsky
Apr 8, 2019 9:16 AM

So whichever we look, we’re fucked! We’re fucked if we stay and we’re fucked if we leave! It’s not only the dead hand of neoliberalism but the dead end of the Western ‘left’. We’re reduced to relying on the young to confront the hideous truth of capitalism’s assault on the planet! Yes, we may finally wake up but in all likelyhood it’ll be too late by then to do anything about it.

If they’re is a future for the human race, our descendents will curse us for our short-term greed that puts profits before the planet. I’m glad I’m at the tail-end of my life but I feel nothing but shame for bequeathing this rotting carcass to our descendents.

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 8, 2019 9:44 AM
Reply to  barovsky

the dead end of the Western ‘left’

Perhaps it’s appropriate to consider the idea that if the Western “left” has ended up in a dead end, somebody might have deliberately steered it in that direction. Identity Politics, in particular, seems so miraculously expedient for elite interests, that it’s unlikely to have arisen by accident.

barovsky
barovsky
Apr 8, 2019 10:13 AM
Reply to  milosevic

Steered it? So you’re saying that it’s somebody else’s fault? Who exactly? The ‘left’ doesn’t exist in a vacuum, it’s an intrinsic part of our society and it reflects the dominant ideology of capital, patriarchy, racism, the whole nine yards!

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 8, 2019 11:16 AM
Reply to  barovsky

The ideas that are predominant in the Western “left” are disseminated through three main avenues: academia, NGOs, and (allegedly) alternative media. If one were to investigate how the comfortable middle-class careers of the people who run these industries are paid for, the funding sources would turn out to be other than proletarian. The Ford Foundation and Soros are only the first “philanthropic” sponsors that come to mind. Not very surprisingly, identity politics gets funded, whereas revolutionary anti-capitalism does not. Aspiring “left-wing” functionaries become aware of this reality shortly after arriving at university, and are free to choose their political opinions accordingly. One set of choices leads to money, social status, and a comfortable middle-class existence; the other results in ostracism, ridicule, and a drastic restriction of employment opportunities. One does not even need to be smart enough to consciously understand this; it is sufficient to simply feel it, which happens… Read more »

barovsky
barovsky
Apr 8, 2019 11:25 AM
Reply to  milosevic

The Western “left” is the best opposition that ruling-class money can buy.

Absolutely! But the real question is, in the words of a ‘professional revolutionary’, ‘What is to be done?’ We’re rapidly running out of time.

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 8, 2019 11:51 AM
Reply to  barovsky

The first thing to be done, is to recognize dead ends for what they are, discard the assholes who led you into them, extricate yourself, and start travelling in a different direction, while advising other well-meaning people to do the same.

mark
mark
Apr 9, 2019 3:30 AM
Reply to  milosevic

The next thing is to consider an alternative.
I would suggest direct democracy.
People complain that you cannot ask the people to decide on complex issues.
I would beg to differ.
In Switzerland a few years ago, the boss of the Swiss air force asked for some new planes. And they take defence very seriously. There was a referendum asking if he could have some new planes. The people said yes. The second question was what sort of planes should be acquired. There were 3 options, from America, Sweden and Russia. The answer was yes, get the American ones.

john thatcher
john thatcher
Apr 8, 2019 11:17 AM
Reply to  milosevic

It certainly wasn’t exploited by elite interests by accident,though its existence was not in in the elites gift,it arose out of genuine need.But it is hardly the first time an inherently “progressive” idea was exploited by such an elite is it.

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 8, 2019 11:45 AM
Reply to  john thatcher

its existence was not in in the elite’s gift

Don’t be so sure about that; for example, see below.

it arose out of genuine need

So did the Orange Emperor, out of a need to be rid of the Clinton-Bush-Obama apparatus. It’s quite possible for something to arise out of a genuine need, without in any way fulfilling it, or even being an authentic expression of it.

it is hardly the first time an inherently “progressive” idea was exploited by such an elite

There is nothing inherently progressive about identity politics. It is precisely the centuries-old ruling-class strategy of Divide And Conquer, cleverly rebranded so it can be sold to self-serving “left-wing” careerists, and anybody else who is dumb enough to get their ideas from them.

lundiel
lundiel
Apr 8, 2019 3:17 PM
Reply to  milosevic

Agreed. It’s interesting how it’s mostly confined to metropolitan areas and a few trendy towns, the same places that spawned hipsters and gentrification. Brighton should be the capital of faux left, trendy green identity politics, a million miles from Socialism and intrinsically linked to the remain campaign.

Mucho
Mucho
Apr 8, 2019 10:26 PM
Reply to  lundiel

Yes, the people of Brighton…….oh wow! Closed, Guardianised minds galore, each and every one of them is like the hive minded offspring of a broom cupboard fling between Johnathan Freedland and Zoe Williams. Many of them look deceptively similar to people who might have open minds. They don’t, anything but. The buses in Brighton have big signs in them to let you know that if you are in any way insulted or offended by anything, whatever it is, you should call the police to report a hate crime.

Maggie
Maggie
Apr 8, 2019 12:54 PM
Reply to  barovsky

Barovsky – I used to feel like that, until I read ‘The Secret’ and now am a total believer in the power of the Universe, and completely trust that we will get what we collectively desire. That means putting aside all negative thoughts or predictions, and concentrate totally on the positives and the strength of people like this:

Like him or loathe him, he ALWAYS speaks positively.

jdseanjd
jdseanjd
Apr 9, 2019 8:04 PM
Reply to  barovsky

barovsky, do you not see that capitalism died 2008 when the big banks did not die?

When our spineless politicians deemed the monster predators “Too Big To Fail”
they tipped our financial system into Fascism, surely?

John Doran.

barovsky
barovsky
Apr 9, 2019 8:13 PM
Reply to  jdseanjd

Surely not. Fascism is the last resort of capitalism, though it’s true to say that we appear to heading in that direction but it’s not the fascism of Nazi Germany, perhaps closer to its roots in Mussolini’s Italy with our corporate-security state. But Mussolini banned trade unions, the communist and socialist parties, we haven’t reached that point yet. But it’s true that big business and the state are now inextricably intertwined. Goodbye social contract between (organised) labour and capital (Keynesism). It’s a return to the naked capitalism of the 19th century, liberalism.

jdseanjd
jdseanjd
Apr 10, 2019 10:58 AM
Reply to  barovsky

barovsky, in my book capitalism is when weak companies fail & go broke.
Fascism is when business is in control of the govt, & that sure looks to me where the West is now.
John Doran.

barovsky
barovsky
Apr 10, 2019 12:20 PM
Reply to  jdseanjd

What you said doesn’t make any kind of sense at all

jdseanjd
jdseanjd
Apr 10, 2019 12:23 PM
Reply to  barovsky

& why not, pray? You have to expand that slightly, surely?

jdseanjd
jdseanjd
Apr 11, 2019 1:49 PM
Reply to  barovsky

A network of 147 corporations control about 40% of global business.
That UK & US govts are bought & paid for is now surely obvious?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bankers-rule-the-world-the-network-of-global-corporate-control/28235

What is Fascism if not money in control of govt?
In the 1930s Banksters used Hitler to overrun countries with his tanks.
Now they’re using debt to strangle countries via The World Bank & The IMF. Read or youtube John Perkins The Economic Hitman.

John Doran.

Edwige
Edwige
Apr 8, 2019 8:46 AM

“And try telling Extinction Rebellion that the EU is serious about threats to our environment”.

Glyphosate – found to be a substantial factor in causing a man’s cancer last month by a jury in San Francisco – is approved for agricultural use by the EU until 2022.

Francis Lee
Francis Lee
Apr 8, 2019 8:23 AM

Yes, admittedly the choices are rather distasteful, such is the nature of politics. What the writer is actually suggesting, however, is that we endorse a policy which we know will fail. (In the famous phrase of Trotsky’s attributed to the socialist deputy in Italy, signor Turati during the rise of fascism, who opined that ‘we must have the courage to be cowards” and choose the parliamentary road to socialism.)In short we lie to the very people that we are trying to convince that this is possible. This seems a very dubious policy. Speaking from personal experience I remember back in the early 70s when I was a member of a far left group that joining the Labour party and working within trade unions was the way to go; everything else was sectarian nonsense. At the time his seemed to be a very plausible argument. The long march through the institutions.… Read more »

writerroddis
writerroddis
Apr 8, 2019 10:12 AM
Reply to  Francis Lee

Your first paragraph, ridiculously, puts words in my mouth I never uttered. Your final sentence on the other hand is precisely my point. I hope we can agree that not being in possession of solutions is no excuse for not articulating the problem.

Maggie
Maggie
Apr 8, 2019 3:01 PM
Reply to  Francis Lee

So, Francis, What is your answer? Who are we to trust with our vote? Or are you suggesting we just opt for more Capitalism/War and Poverty? Please share your vision of the future to keep our children safe? When people finally realise that WE THE PEOPLE have NO enemies, and have everything in common with the manufactured bogy men – Russia/China/Japan/Korea/South America/India/Pakistani/Eastern Europe/Muslims/Buddhists/Christians and ALL… because we are each and every one of us is being shafted by the Elite Corporate Vampires and their lackeys the CIA/MI6. WE THE PEOPLE are free to travel and make friends and are welcomed by all people of the world.. because we the people don’t want to steal anything from them.. We are kindred spirits. We need to awake and realise that WE have more in common with ‘foreigners’ than we do with our own government, and refuse to be divided like sheep.. then… Read more »

Tsar Nicholas
Tsar Nicholas
Apr 8, 2019 8:17 AM

The EU cannot be reformed from within. It is a vast enterprise, set up over many generations with its decision making process designed to be as complex and opaque as possible.

And what a ludicrously deceptive piece this is – as if quoting Trotsky, a mass murderer, justifies any moral course of action. We are not facing a choice between Jean-Claude Junker and Adolf Hitler. The idiociy of such an analogy is beyond words.

John
John
Apr 8, 2019 9:39 AM
Reply to  Tsar Nicholas

As much as i agree with your disdain for Trotsky you’ve called yourself tsar Nicholas whinhas a body count way higher than Trotsky (and Trotsky has a much bigger body count than Stalin. Stalin 799,000 executions throughout the entire Stalin period against Trotskyists few millions during the civil war and a few thousands during the anarchist revolt)

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 8, 2019 10:12 AM
Reply to  John

799,000 executions throughout the entire Stalin period

You forgot about the Gulag Archipelago. Being shot in the back of the head in a basement, seems positively humane compared to being worked, starved, and frozen to death in a Siberian slave labour camp.

Voline — The Unknown Revolution, 1917-1921

mark
mark
Apr 9, 2019 3:19 AM
Reply to  milosevic

The Zionist Bolsheviks did much worse than that. A particular favourite of the Zionist butchers was to cut open the belly of their victims, nail part of their intestines to a tree, then whip them round and round the tree till the victim’s intestines were all wrapped round the tree. Charming old chap, Trotsky and his chums.

In the century of Tsarist rule prior to the Zionist Bolshevik take over, there were a few thousand executions for all reasons. There were probably far more in the USA.

Makropulos
Makropulos
Apr 9, 2019 5:20 PM
Reply to  mark

Any source for this intestine/tree story? The most I have managed to find is in Victor Serge’s “Memoirs of a Revolutionary” in which he recounts the story coming from Maxim Gorky (AKA Alexei Maximovich). Here is the relevant passage:

“Alexei Maximovich (i.e. Gorky) spoke to me of strange tortures rediscovered for the benefit of “Commissars in re­mote country districts, such as pulling out the intestines through an incision in the abdomen and coiling them slowly around a tree. He
thought that the tradition of these tortures was kept up through the reading of The Golden Legend.’”

This last named is apparently a thirteenth-century “Lives of the Saints.”

bevin
bevin
Apr 9, 2019 8:53 PM
Reply to  mark

The Bolsheviks were not Zionists. In a world in which malicious propaganda-for example all these statistics of executions and massacres put together by anti-communist , white Russian and fascist individuals and groups- pollutes everything we discuss surely there are some basic facts which it would be sensible to observe.
But I forget, like the Zionist fascists in Israel you use the words Zionist and Jewish as if they were synonyms. In other words you lie, as you spew out fascist talking points.

Makropulos
Makropulos
Apr 10, 2019 8:11 AM
Reply to  bevin

Yes Bevin – and just as there are attempts to call the Russian Revolution a Jewish plot, there are also attempts to invalidate creditable conspiracy theorists by linking them with UFOs, lizards from outer space and genuine anti-Semitism. Divide-and-rule has always been the most powerful strategy to maintain power and the expression “anti-Semitism” is perfect since it always provokes extreme reactions. Whenever I find an article that is careful to point out who is Jewish and who isn’t then I know it’s part of an effort (witting or unwitting) to link the aforementioned creditable conspiracy theory with white nationalism, Nazism and genuine anti-Semitism.

Tsar Nicholas
Tsar Nicholas
Apr 8, 2019 11:39 AM
Reply to  John

You are talking rubbish, complete rubbish. The number of executions carried out under the last Romanov was (on a per capita basis) lower then the United Kingdom during the same period. It was also lower in absolute terms than the United states, despsite the much higher population of the Russian empire.

There was a lot of black propaganda around in the capitalist West during those days, because the Tsar was unwilling to open up his country to capitalist exploitation. The result was regime change, with Lenin receiving money from the Germans, and Trotsky in the pay of the British.

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 8, 2019 12:29 PM
Reply to  Tsar Nicholas

The result was regime change, with Lenin receiving money from the Germans, and Trotsky in the pay of the British.

It seems that a lot of the impetus, and funding, for regime change came from other interests than those, which may help to explain the mediaeval barbarism of the regime which was subsequently installed.

Ron Unz — The Bolshevik Revolution and Its Aftermath

jdseanjd
jdseanjd
Apr 9, 2019 8:51 PM
Reply to  Tsar Nicholas

Tsar Nicholas, both Communism & Fascism were funded by Banksters: Brit, European & US.
Both wars & reconstructions are done on interest bearing loans & the Banksters go “Hooray: more, more, more.” The taxpayers, vanquished & victorious pay through the nose, for decades.
Book, by WWII Canadian naval intelligence officer, William Guy Carr:
Pawns In The Game, 1955.

From the English Civil War to today.

EG: 1917, in the middle of WWI, Kuhn-Loeb bank of New York credited, on behalf of a consortium of banks, the murderous pair, Lenin & Trotsky, $50,000,000 in a Swiss bank, to pursue the Bolshevik Revolution.
Page 107/8, Chapter 9, Political Intrigue 1914 – 1919.

Read for free, using the http://www.duckduckgo.com search engine.
Or buy the book, perhaps?

John Doran.

bevin
bevin
Apr 9, 2019 9:02 PM
Reply to  jdseanjd

“1917, in the middle of WWI, Kuhn-Loeb bank of New York credited, on behalf of a consortium of banks, the murderous pair, Lenin & Trotsky, $50,000,000 in a Swiss bank, to pursue the Bolshevik Revolution.
Page 107/8, Chapter 9, Political Intrigue 1914 – 1919.”
Do you actually believe this stuff?

jdseanjd
jdseanjd
Apr 10, 2019 10:37 AM
Reply to  bevin

bevin, I’ve checked the book out with a couple of individuals, & one site labels it “Must Read” status, veteranstoday.

A Pakistani physics Prof. has com to almost identical conclusions as William Guy Carr: Mujahid Kamran, on VT.

I have no reason to doubt Carr.

For backup, try youtube & BILL STILL MONEY MASTERS
3.5 hrs.

For further backup, try The Creature From Jekyll Island, by Blogger
G. Edward Griffin. The chapter summaries can be read in about an hour.
http://www.needtoknow.news

History is written by the winners, & so far, since the Bank Of England Charter, the Banksters have had it all their own way.
John Doran.

bevin
bevin
Apr 9, 2019 8:59 PM
Reply to  Tsar Nicholas

The Tsar was unwilling to open up his country to capitalist exploitation.
He might have been unwilling but by the time his rule ended capitalist investment dominated the economy. And even in the peasant agricultural sector Stolypin’s ‘reforms’ were breaking up the ancient village collectives in the interests of the capitalists. One of whom was Trotsky’s father!

jdseanjd
jdseanjd
Apr 10, 2019 10:53 AM
Reply to  bevin

& by 1924 Lenin had to give an individual plot each to peasants because his beloved collective farms system was not working.

The Czar had earned the undying enmity of the Banksters by preventing the breakup of the US. During the US “civil war” he had stationed ships off both East & West coasts to blockade the Brits who feared a monolithic US.
Lincoln kept the Union together & the order for the execution of his family came from New York.

John Doran.

Maggie
Maggie
Apr 8, 2019 3:09 PM
Reply to  John

John – Don’t leave out BLIAR and the Imbecile BUSH who were solely responsible for the murder of 1.5 MILLION innocent women and children in IRAQ alone, with their sanctions and illegal warfare, which the evil soulless harridan Madeline Albright said was worth it to get the oil.

Exactly as they are trying to do in Venezuela now?

writerroddis
writerroddis
Apr 8, 2019 10:27 AM
Reply to  Tsar Nicholas

How much field combat have you see , Tsar Nick? I’m 66 but haven’t seen a single day – a fact many Remainers, in a textbook case of confusing correlation with causation, attribute to the EU. I’m not here to defend Trotsky. Unlike me, however, he had to make unenviable decisions in an appalling situation. Revolutionary Russia, in the four years of so-called civil war – actually no more a civil war than Syria’s – was blockaded, starving, invaded by no fewer than fourteen nations and facing crack, battle hardened, cossack-led counter revolution. To borrow from Freewheeling Bob, it was a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it. In his own words, Trotsky had to “make myself a monster”. He used decimation, summary execution and ruthless suppression at Kronstadt. This was no armchair seminar on humanitarian values. That said, and you of course were under house arrest at the… Read more »

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 8, 2019 12:08 PM
Reply to  writerroddis

haven’t seen a single day – a fact many Remainers, in a textbook case of confusing correlation with causation, attribute to the EU.

in that case, they must be either f***ing blind, paralytically stupid, or just paid-for disinfo shills.

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 8, 2019 1:04 PM
Reply to  writerroddis

ruthless suppression at Kronstadt

It often turns out that what most requires ruthless suppression, is the threat of a good example.

Voline — The Unknown Revolution, 1917-1921

barovsky
barovsky
Apr 8, 2019 1:34 PM
Reply to  milosevic

milosovic: This is the problem; the ‘left’ still living in 1917 (or thereabouts) without learning a single lesson from it! Still going on about Trotsky and Kronstadt, who killed the most, on and fucking on. Have you noticed that we’re living in the 21st century?

bevin
bevin
Apr 9, 2019 9:14 PM
Reply to  barovsky

Do you think that it is the ‘left’ which is ‘still living in 1917’?
Almost all the comments here have come from the fascist inspired right, recycling old lies about the Revolution in order to promote the idea that socialism and democratic movements are dangerous and lead inevitably to bloody massacres. Always omitting to mention that the massacres in question are invariably caused by the violent reaction of propertied classes to egalitarian policies.

barovsky
barovsky
Apr 9, 2019 10:12 PM
Reply to  bevin

Bevin, I’m not referring to the screwballs here.

Tsar Nicholas
Tsar Nicholas
Apr 8, 2019 6:15 PM
Reply to  writerroddis

Trotsky had to make unenviable decisions in a situation he brought about himself. Actually, they weren’t unenviable decisions because many on the left admire – and presumably therefore – envy his bloodletting, and clearly wish they could do it now.

jdseanjd
jdseanjd
Apr 9, 2019 8:59 PM
Reply to  writerroddis

Roddis, who pressganged Trotsky into leading a murderous revolution, financed by Banksters?

John Doran.

Mishko
Mishko
Apr 9, 2019 2:21 AM
Reply to  Tsar Nicholas

Worst case scenario? Hitler in a heartbeat. I most definately would.

bevin
bevin
Apr 9, 2019 9:08 PM
Reply to  Tsar Nicholas

There is no evidence at all that Trotsky was a “mass murderer”. And given the competition at the time, he would have had to be responsible for the deaths of millions to come close to imperialists such as King Leopold, Generals like Haig or French, or strategists like Lloyd George, Churchill and Kemal.
As to the Tsar’s record on capital punishment, apoloigists always leave out the many executions carried out by his forces, the Black Hundreds and others licensed to massacre Jews, for example.

Eric Blair
Eric Blair
Apr 8, 2019 6:55 AM

Nuanced and insightful piece, thank you. Be prepared for mocking and spiteful sneering from the large contingent of rigid binary thinkers on here who have convinced themselves that they have it all figured out. Yannis Varoufakis – a man who, having stared into the dead eyes of the EU in its cold, mercilessly neoliberal true form, has more reason than most to loathe it – sees no viable alternative to reform from within. Of all the commentators and pundits offering their two shillings, Yannis Varoufakis has the most unsentimental and clear-eyed take on the EU/Brexit situation. I watched on YouTube a talk he gave recently and, contrary to what his critics say, he does not think the EU can he reformed from within and explicitly stated that most likely his Diem25 project will not succeed in its goal of democratizing the European Union. But the only other options, as he… Read more »

Adrian Kent
Adrian Kent
Apr 8, 2019 9:00 AM
Reply to  Eric Blair

Varoufakis is right to be skeptical about EU reform. I’ve been challenging dozens of ‘Remain And Reformers’ with the simple question of ‘How’ and DiEM25 have been the only group to offer anything at all coherent. As quoted above, Owen Smith says “We failed to mention that there were leftwing allies in Europe who could help us achieve our goals.” which again begs a simple question “Who?”. (Another question I’ve been putting to the left remainers). In too many countries there simply isn’t any progressive left to speak of – Hungary, Poland, Finland, Slovenia, Belgium, the Baltic States and others have none at all. The ‘allies’ he speaks of are mostly a load of complacent and shrinking left centrist parties who have shown no inclination at all towards reform. Staying in will expose us to all sorts of TTIP2.0 threats and we’ll be able to do little inside when a… Read more »

writerroddis
writerroddis
Apr 8, 2019 2:29 PM
Reply to  Eric Blair

Eric, I apologise for misrepresenting Varoufakis – God knows I could say a few things on how that feels!

Yannis (and come to that, Leon!) were intendex as minor notes here but he has my respect and I will look more closely at Diem25.

lundiel
lundiel
Apr 8, 2019 3:49 PM
Reply to  Eric Blair

I wish Mr Varoufakis luck, there is something to be said for waiting for the EU to fall apart and be ready to pick up the pieces. At some point the euro will collapse, in the meantime they will press ahead with federation to prevent that. At that point I see the partial break up, with maybe the original 6 becoming a federation and the rest, second class client states, not a pretty outcome. So I’d prefer we got out now, as we’ll never vote for federation.

lundiel
lundiel
Apr 8, 2019 3:59 PM
Reply to  lundiel

PS. I think a lot depends on France, post Macron. If the country becomes more nationalist, it could scupper federation.

DavidKNZ
DavidKNZ
Apr 8, 2019 6:08 AM

Roddis doing sanity… Always refreshing.. The unfolding fiasco, left uncorrected, will have close to zero chance of uplifting the lot of ‘everyman’, the actors tainted with greed and unthinking self promotion. To think that “whats in it for me” will lead to a compassionate society is madness. For a snapshot of real leadership, unrehearsed yet true, try
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111873366/jacinda-arderns-pitch-perfect-leadership-was-no-performance
Pax David K

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Apr 8, 2019 11:51 PM
Reply to  DavidKNZ

Regardless of the sincerity or not of Ardern’s performance there is a very sizable body of opinion around the Muslim world which saw it as just more of the same old same old. 70 mostly dusky Muslims killed in a mosque and all their own overseas mainstream media can get from New Zealand media is massive coverage of a non-Muslim white woman exuding a grief that, if not calibrated for the media still might have been for all anyone at the tv receiver end could know (Ms Ardern appears in other contexts to be a woman of rapidly changing affect depending on whether she has to lecture, charm or negotiate with her audience on topics of social and political sensitivity). But almost no coverage of the true subjects of the “news”, the 70 ultimate victims, or the scores of traumatized others and their families or the thousands or tens of… Read more »

mark
mark
Apr 8, 2019 4:53 AM

Of course the EU is capable of reforming itself.
Look! A flying pig!

milosevic
milosevic
Apr 8, 2019 5:44 AM
Reply to  mark

rogerglewis
rogerglewis
Apr 8, 2019 4:44 AM

Labels die and go out of fashion. Liberty and the Idea of freedom and justice live forever, Its a question of Emergence not emergency of Free will and not determinism. Agnosticism and Atheism are workable in our human psychology but to abandon hope is ill advised and perhaps not really possible. Work without Hope BY SAMUEL TAYLOR COLERIDGE Lines Composed 21st February 1825 All Nature seems at work. Slugs leave their lair— The bees are stirring—birds are on the wing— And Winter slumbering in the open air, Wears on his smiling face a dream of Spring! And I the while, the sole unbusy thing, Nor honey make, nor pair, nor build, nor sing. Yet well I ken the banks where amaranths blow, Have traced the fount whence streams of nectar flow. Bloom, O ye amaranths! bloom for whom ye may, For me ye bloom not! Glide, rich streams, away! With… Read more »