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		By: flaxgirl		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-79021</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2019 06:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78841&quot;&gt;mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Your comment seems to imply I think Wikileaks is controlled opposition. No, no, no, no, no. I think they&#039;ve been infiltrated by at least Chelsea Manning, Adrian Lamo and Ben Griffin and I believe the Collateral Murder video is fake, however, I don&#039;t have enough faith in my analytical ability to come out and say it is for sure ... but none of those I approach who are better placed to give an opinion will give one. No one will touch an analysis of that video with a 50-foot barge pole ... which makes me only more suspicious. If they thought it was real why not just say so.

So if anyone out there feels that they can give an opinion on the authenticity of the video please do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78841">mark</a>.</p>
<p>Your comment seems to imply I think Wikileaks is controlled opposition. No, no, no, no, no. I think they&#8217;ve been infiltrated by at least Chelsea Manning, Adrian Lamo and Ben Griffin and I believe the Collateral Murder video is fake, however, I don&#8217;t have enough faith in my analytical ability to come out and say it is for sure &#8230; but none of those I approach who are better placed to give an opinion will give one. No one will touch an analysis of that video with a 50-foot barge pole &#8230; which makes me only more suspicious. If they thought it was real why not just say so.</p>
<p>So if anyone out there feels that they can give an opinion on the authenticity of the video please do so.</p>
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		By: flaxgirl		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78845</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2019 02:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78574&quot;&gt;Frankly Speaking&lt;/a&gt;.

FS, I am clearly not a disinformation agent. I make a claim and I match it to the evidence - everything I say is completely transparent. All those who disagree with me in the comments rarely address the matching of claim to evidence (of course, it&#039;s possible to disagree that the evidence supports my claim but commenters do not give their reasons for disagreement - they simply resort to cheap epithets).

No one has said how what I have pointed out as anomalies in the Juju Chang interview indicate that Chelsea is an intelligence asset. No one has gone anywhere near that interview or the obvious ridiculousness of Chelsea allegedly labelling the 400,000 documents she downloaded in one day as &quot;Lady Ga Ga&quot;.

My wish is that the level of argument in the comments section would rise above the kneejerk reaction and that commenters would recognise the obvious (when it is pointed out as it was to me) paradigm of how the power elite not only dupe us but push their dupery in our faces. It is not rocket science, it is just an unfamiliar and seemingly counterintuitive paradigm supported by evidence everywhere you turn. With such appalling kneejerk reaction and seemingly wilful blindness of this obvious paradigm among Off-Guardian readers I wonder what hope there is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78574">Frankly Speaking</a>.</p>
<p>FS, I am clearly not a disinformation agent. I make a claim and I match it to the evidence &#8211; everything I say is completely transparent. All those who disagree with me in the comments rarely address the matching of claim to evidence (of course, it&#8217;s possible to disagree that the evidence supports my claim but commenters do not give their reasons for disagreement &#8211; they simply resort to cheap epithets).</p>
<p>No one has said how what I have pointed out as anomalies in the Juju Chang interview indicate that Chelsea is an intelligence asset. No one has gone anywhere near that interview or the obvious ridiculousness of Chelsea allegedly labelling the 400,000 documents she downloaded in one day as &#8220;Lady Ga Ga&#8221;.</p>
<p>My wish is that the level of argument in the comments section would rise above the kneejerk reaction and that commenters would recognise the obvious (when it is pointed out as it was to me) paradigm of how the power elite not only dupe us but push their dupery in our faces. It is not rocket science, it is just an unfamiliar and seemingly counterintuitive paradigm supported by evidence everywhere you turn. With such appalling kneejerk reaction and seemingly wilful blindness of this obvious paradigm among Off-Guardian readers I wonder what hope there is.</p>
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		By: flaxgirl		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78842</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2019 02:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78521&quot;&gt;Sophie - Admin&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Admin. I didn&#039;t think it possible (but one can get a little paranoid) and should have posted that I realised it was published.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78521">Sophie &#8211; Admin</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Admin. I didn&#8217;t think it possible (but one can get a little paranoid) and should have posted that I realised it was published.</p>
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		By: mark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2019 00:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78580&quot;&gt;flaxgirl&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, I&#039;ve read that. I had doubts about Wikileaks when it first came out, but I base what I say on my 2nd short paragraph above. Could be wrong, but it seems unlikely to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78580">flaxgirl</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve read that. I had doubts about Wikileaks when it first came out, but I base what I say on my 2nd short paragraph above. Could be wrong, but it seems unlikely to me.</p>
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		By: flaxgirl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 08:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78533&quot;&gt;mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Mark, I present my case on a webpage. If you happen to read it I&#039;d be interested to know where you find my reasoning lacking. https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/wikileaks-controlled-opposition.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78533">mark</a>.</p>
<p>Mark, I present my case on a webpage. If you happen to read it I&#8217;d be interested to know where you find my reasoning lacking. <a href="https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/wikileaks-controlled-opposition.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/wikileaks-controlled-opposition.html</a></p>
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		By: flaxgirl		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78579</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 08:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78545&quot;&gt;UreKismet&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh dear, UreKismet, it saddens me that you do not have my measure at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78545">UreKismet</a>.</p>
<p>Oh dear, UreKismet, it saddens me that you do not have my measure at all.</p>
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		By: flaxgirl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flaxgirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 07:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78541&quot;&gt;Editor&lt;/a&gt;.

As I keep saying and is so abundantly obvious, the power elite love to dupe us.  When the Wikileaks ship appeared on the horizon, the power elite would have had a big chuckle (though you&#039;d think they might have some concern, at least, about genuine leakers) and sent their &quot;controlled opposition&quot; welcoming party consisting of Chelsea, Adrian and others ... and the shocking video. The fact that it needed to be unencrypted reminds me of New York City&#039;s &quot;refusal&quot; to release the first responder &quot;oral histories&quot; resulting in New York Times suing for release - as if. It was just a complete charade to keep everyone focused on the one truth of controlled demolition and distracted from the other equally important truth, staged death and injury. https://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/nyregion/city-to-release-thousands-oforal-histories-of-911-today.html

So the video was released and what have been the repercussions? A big fat zero as far as I know ... except for Julian. The power elite can do what they like - they know a significant percentage of the population hates them so they just play up to the hatred with a big Fuck You. Creating that video was for their amusement, to say, &quot;Think you can crush us? Yeah, right. We&#039;ve been in this game a lot longer than you have and we have everything under control. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. ROFL!&quot; It&#039;s like 9/11 - so many people recognise that the power elite are responsible (even if most don&#039;t recognise staged death and injury) and what&#039;s happened to anyone? Precisely NOTHING.

If you refuse to recognise the anomalies in Chelsea Manning&#039;s Wikipedia article and the utterly glaring anomalies in the Juju Chang interview I really don&#039;t know what to say. Please - you must match the evidence with the claim. I haven&#039;t pulled this out of thin air. It was a simple progression: very expensive-looking photo raised suspicions; Wikipedia article anomalies; Juju Chang interview anomalies; video anomalies. What do they all add up to?

And it&#039;s only to be expected that they would implement controlled opposition. I really do not understand why people treat what I say as if it&#039;s coming from out of left field and completely crazy. It is perfectly consistent with the way the world works. It&#039;s 9 years since the video was released and in all that time it didn&#039;t cross my mind (or seemingly others&#039;) that Chelsea was an intelligence asset or that the video was faked but when my suspicion was aroused and I followed the trail then, of course, it all made perfect sense and I felt bad I hadn&#039;t thought of it sooner when it may have been more useful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78541">Editor</a>.</p>
<p>As I keep saying and is so abundantly obvious, the power elite love to dupe us.  When the Wikileaks ship appeared on the horizon, the power elite would have had a big chuckle (though you&#8217;d think they might have some concern, at least, about genuine leakers) and sent their &#8220;controlled opposition&#8221; welcoming party consisting of Chelsea, Adrian and others &#8230; and the shocking video. The fact that it needed to be unencrypted reminds me of New York City&#8217;s &#8220;refusal&#8221; to release the first responder &#8220;oral histories&#8221; resulting in New York Times suing for release &#8211; as if. It was just a complete charade to keep everyone focused on the one truth of controlled demolition and distracted from the other equally important truth, staged death and injury. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/nyregion/city-to-release-thousands-oforal-histories-of-911-today.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/nyregion/city-to-release-thousands-oforal-histories-of-911-today.html</a></p>
<p>So the video was released and what have been the repercussions? A big fat zero as far as I know &#8230; except for Julian. The power elite can do what they like &#8211; they know a significant percentage of the population hates them so they just play up to the hatred with a big Fuck You. Creating that video was for their amusement, to say, &#8220;Think you can crush us? Yeah, right. We&#8217;ve been in this game a lot longer than you have and we have everything under control. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. ROFL!&#8221; It&#8217;s like 9/11 &#8211; so many people recognise that the power elite are responsible (even if most don&#8217;t recognise staged death and injury) and what&#8217;s happened to anyone? Precisely NOTHING.</p>
<p>If you refuse to recognise the anomalies in Chelsea Manning&#8217;s Wikipedia article and the utterly glaring anomalies in the Juju Chang interview I really don&#8217;t know what to say. Please &#8211; you must match the evidence with the claim. I haven&#8217;t pulled this out of thin air. It was a simple progression: very expensive-looking photo raised suspicions; Wikipedia article anomalies; Juju Chang interview anomalies; video anomalies. What do they all add up to?</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s only to be expected that they would implement controlled opposition. I really do not understand why people treat what I say as if it&#8217;s coming from out of left field and completely crazy. It is perfectly consistent with the way the world works. It&#8217;s 9 years since the video was released and in all that time it didn&#8217;t cross my mind (or seemingly others&#8217;) that Chelsea was an intelligence asset or that the video was faked but when my suspicion was aroused and I followed the trail then, of course, it all made perfect sense and I felt bad I hadn&#8217;t thought of it sooner when it may have been more useful.</p>
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		By: Frankly Speaking		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78575</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 06:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78567&quot;&gt;Sophie - Admin&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks.
Is there a way that you can set the default on your site backend to expand all replies so that the thread flows like it used to do? Or is it intentionally done this way by yourselves?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78567">Sophie &#8211; Admin</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks.<br />
Is there a way that you can set the default on your site backend to expand all replies so that the thread flows like it used to do? Or is it intentionally done this way by yourselves?</p>
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		By: Frankly Speaking		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 06:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78502&quot;&gt;flaxgirl&lt;/a&gt;.

I wish that all of your disinfo comments would automatically disappear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/08/shooting-the-whistleblowers/#comment-78502">flaxgirl</a>.</p>
<p>I wish that all of your disinfo comments would automatically disappear.</p>
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