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		By: vexarb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2019 04:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since this is a U$ thread, here is the view of a Loyal Dissident: 

anti_republocrat    BTL  SyrPer News  #303682

It seems Alexander Mercouris reads this blog and noticed my comment about the rapidity of Syrian Army deployment [displacing U$ occupation force in Syria] being evidence of US cooperation, which of course was Trump’s decision: 

https://youtu.be/F_wScYfgj4Q?t=390

I’m hoping this means that the US military is loyal in any Constitutional showdown between Trump and the CIA. It’s soldiers, sailors and airmen who fight wars, not CIA.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since this is a U$ thread, here is the view of a Loyal Dissident: </p>
<p>anti_republocrat    BTL  SyrPer News  #303682</p>
<p>It seems Alexander Mercouris reads this blog and noticed my comment about the rapidity of Syrian Army deployment [displacing U$ occupation force in Syria] being evidence of US cooperation, which of course was Trump’s decision: </p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/F_wScYfgj4Q?t=390" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/F_wScYfgj4Q?t=390</a></p>
<p>I’m hoping this means that the US military is loyal in any Constitutional showdown between Trump and the CIA. It’s soldiers, sailors and airmen who fight wars, not CIA.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Berlin beerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berlin beerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2019 04:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98450&quot;&gt;Steve Abbott&lt;/a&gt;.

There is more to Mrs. Freeland. Her grandfather&#039;s history is a misdirection, to deflect attention away from her current situation.  Obviously her handlers could care less about his opportunistic actions.

I mean who was Bowlers grandfather ? Another actor. 

They are all actors running both sides of the conflict they designed to make sure they get what they want while the peons believe the sad stories. 

So the question begs - what does Mrs. Freeland really want and who does she work for? Its not the Canadian People from what I can read into it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98450">Steve Abbott</a>.</p>
<p>There is more to Mrs. Freeland. Her grandfather&#8217;s history is a misdirection, to deflect attention away from her current situation.  Obviously her handlers could care less about his opportunistic actions.</p>
<p>I mean who was Bowlers grandfather ? Another actor. </p>
<p>They are all actors running both sides of the conflict they designed to make sure they get what they want while the peons believe the sad stories. </p>
<p>So the question begs &#8211; what does Mrs. Freeland really want and who does she work for? Its not the Canadian People from what I can read into it.</p>
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		By: Steve Abbott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Abbott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2019 03:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98306&quot;&gt;Jen&lt;/a&gt;.

Under most circumstances, I would have suggested that Freeland&#039;s grandfather&#039;s history had no bearing on her character, but that opinion is negated by the fact that she herself has falsified that history, claiming instead, that he had been active in resisting the Nazis.  In my opinion, that false claim makes her grandfather&#039;s Nazi connections highly relevant.

A small digression, but perhaps relevant to the theme of lying, is the fact that she has lied to the Canadian people, possibly the Prime Minister (unless he is in on the hoax) Parliament, and the Governor General, specifically with regard to article 233 of the Venezuelan constitution among other things, to bring us on board with the US&#039;s murderous sanctions against Venezuela.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98306">Jen</a>.</p>
<p>Under most circumstances, I would have suggested that Freeland&#8217;s grandfather&#8217;s history had no bearing on her character, but that opinion is negated by the fact that she herself has falsified that history, claiming instead, that he had been active in resisting the Nazis.  In my opinion, that false claim makes her grandfather&#8217;s Nazi connections highly relevant.</p>
<p>A small digression, but perhaps relevant to the theme of lying, is the fact that she has lied to the Canadian people, possibly the Prime Minister (unless he is in on the hoax) Parliament, and the Governor General, specifically with regard to article 233 of the Venezuelan constitution among other things, to bring us on board with the US&#8217;s murderous sanctions against Venezuela.</p>
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		By: Arby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this Lucy. I remember your articles on Clearstream]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this Lucy. I remember your articles on Clearstream</p>
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		By: Robbobbobin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98307&quot;&gt;Jen&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;...a tiny jail cell where (in Australian parlance) one can hardly swing a cat...&quot;

British parlance. Various usages and etymologies--including yours--usually originating in the 17th and 18th centuries. Michael Quinion, q.v., concludes it was most like an outdoor game that involved animal cruelty.

As an aside, Michael Quinion&#039;s &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldwidewords.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;World Wide Words&lt;/a&gt;&quot; anorak website was originally hosted in his son&#039;s web space; one of the only two such that I know of, the other being &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://sliderules.lovett.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rod Lovett&#039;s Slide Rules&lt;/a&gt;&quot; anorak website, which is still hosted in his son&#039;s (I&#039;ve been told, but it might be another relative&#039;s) web space.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98307">Jen</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;a tiny jail cell where (in Australian parlance) one can hardly swing a cat&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>British parlance. Various usages and etymologies&#8211;including yours&#8211;usually originating in the 17th and 18th centuries. Michael Quinion, q.v., concludes it was most like an outdoor game that involved animal cruelty.</p>
<p>As an aside, Michael Quinion&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www.worldwidewords.org" rel="nofollow">World Wide Words</a>&#8221; anorak website was originally hosted in his son&#8217;s web space; one of the only two such that I know of, the other being &#8220;<a href="http://sliderules.lovett.com/" rel="nofollow">Rod Lovett&#8217;s Slide Rules</a>&#8221; anorak website, which is still hosted in his son&#8217;s (I&#8217;ve been told, but it might be another relative&#8217;s) web space.</p>
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		By: mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98247&quot;&gt;Tutisicecream&lt;/a&gt;.

In the 1990s, Russia was comprehensively looted by Jew oligarchs.
They stole everything that wasn&#039;t nailed down, and everything else that was nailed down.
Oil, gas, minerals, everything.
At one stage 7 Jew oligarchs, Berezovsky, Khordokovsky, Fridman, Abramovich and a couple of other Chosen Folk owned 70% of all the wealth of Russia.
Previously selling 2nd hand Ladas, or plastic toys on market stalls, they became overnight owners of the whole of the oil industry, amongst other things, without having so much as ever having set eyes on an oil well.
Through fraud, corruption, influence peddling, swindling and outright gangsterism.
Browder, or whatever he calls himself presently, helped himself to a few billion, but he was strictly second division minor league stuff by comparison.
The Evil Vlad spoiled their party, and Jews like Browder have hated him ever since.
They always will.
But of course it&#039;s just a coincidence that all this was a Goy free operation.
It would probably be anti semitic or something to think otherwise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98247">Tutisicecream</a>.</p>
<p>In the 1990s, Russia was comprehensively looted by Jew oligarchs.<br />
They stole everything that wasn&#8217;t nailed down, and everything else that was nailed down.<br />
Oil, gas, minerals, everything.<br />
At one stage 7 Jew oligarchs, Berezovsky, Khordokovsky, Fridman, Abramovich and a couple of other Chosen Folk owned 70% of all the wealth of Russia.<br />
Previously selling 2nd hand Ladas, or plastic toys on market stalls, they became overnight owners of the whole of the oil industry, amongst other things, without having so much as ever having set eyes on an oil well.<br />
Through fraud, corruption, influence peddling, swindling and outright gangsterism.<br />
Browder, or whatever he calls himself presently, helped himself to a few billion, but he was strictly second division minor league stuff by comparison.<br />
The Evil Vlad spoiled their party, and Jews like Browder have hated him ever since.<br />
They always will.<br />
But of course it&#8217;s just a coincidence that all this was a Goy free operation.<br />
It would probably be anti semitic or something to think otherwise.</p>
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		By: mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98313&quot;&gt;Berlin beerman&lt;/a&gt;.

No chance of any of the above.
Our Zionist chums rule the roost in Canada even more than they do in their neighbour to the south.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98313">Berlin beerman</a>.</p>
<p>No chance of any of the above.<br />
Our Zionist chums rule the roost in Canada even more than they do in their neighbour to the south.</p>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2019 23:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98308&quot;&gt;Jen&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s called satire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98308">Jen</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called satire.</p>
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		By: Berlin beerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berlin beerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2019 23:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98306&quot;&gt;Jen&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Jen. 

So basically shes&#039; an operative of the same clan that runs Bowler, et al.  

What Canadian politics needs right now is someone to purge the CBC, redact the Magnitsky act and open direct communication with Russia and China, making them full on partners. 

The people of Canada would benefit from this - instead what do they have ? Trade with UK, New Zealand and Australia in a country where over 55% of its economy revolves around the building (housing) sector, that is in part funded by Chinese ventures and real estate.  

With a vast arctic - exposing itself - it would be wise to reach out to Russia sooner than later. Who knows perhaps PetroCanada can start to do what it was intended to do decades ago. Perhaps Canada can grow balls and take a page out of Venezuela&#039;s  play book - instead of regurgitating the republican agenda to the embarrassment of its intelligent citizens. 

20% of the Canadian &quot;economy&quot; is trade with the US and even there the Trump administration is openly negative on Mrs. Freeland. So shes not an asset there either.  

Is there some hidden trade with Ukraine that Canada is secretly developing value on ? Gas meddling ? Vodka? Could it be the same energy interests that fund Mrs. Freeland ?

In one way I feel Mr. Trump is desperately trying to purge his own (adopted) party and the media nut wagon on his case. Perhaps not with the Magnitsky act, yet, but Mr.Trump is dedicated to winning another term in order to get down to the business of re-building the American infrastructure that has basically befallen third world status. 

Mr. Trudeau is just not there. He&#039;s not as innocent as he pretends to be, but he&#039;s also naive, to the point of  lacking fundamental judgement when it comes to foreign affairs and the well being of the future growth and stability of the Canadian economy and henceforth the well being of its multicultural citizens. Neither is Mr. Singh or Mr. Sheer. But then they are all run by the same operatives in the end , are they not? Its just one big party . 

Mad Max, as he&#039;s called, seems to be on par but then Canada does not have enough of the  &quot;good old boys&quot; to concentrate on in order to steal an election victory..... too bad for multiculturalism when its run by fools with rules to oppress the young and misinformed. Even Arian Sweden seems to have its share of misinformed youth. 

A bit off topic but then so is Mrs. Freeland. She seems to be as fake as her name and her agenda.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/15/mass-rep-jim-mcgovern-caught-in-william-browders-magnitsky-hoax/#comment-98306">Jen</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Jen. </p>
<p>So basically shes&#8217; an operative of the same clan that runs Bowler, et al.  </p>
<p>What Canadian politics needs right now is someone to purge the CBC, redact the Magnitsky act and open direct communication with Russia and China, making them full on partners. </p>
<p>The people of Canada would benefit from this &#8211; instead what do they have ? Trade with UK, New Zealand and Australia in a country where over 55% of its economy revolves around the building (housing) sector, that is in part funded by Chinese ventures and real estate.  </p>
<p>With a vast arctic &#8211; exposing itself &#8211; it would be wise to reach out to Russia sooner than later. Who knows perhaps PetroCanada can start to do what it was intended to do decades ago. Perhaps Canada can grow balls and take a page out of Venezuela&#8217;s  play book &#8211; instead of regurgitating the republican agenda to the embarrassment of its intelligent citizens. </p>
<p>20% of the Canadian &#8220;economy&#8221; is trade with the US and even there the Trump administration is openly negative on Mrs. Freeland. So shes not an asset there either.  </p>
<p>Is there some hidden trade with Ukraine that Canada is secretly developing value on ? Gas meddling ? Vodka? Could it be the same energy interests that fund Mrs. Freeland ?</p>
<p>In one way I feel Mr. Trump is desperately trying to purge his own (adopted) party and the media nut wagon on his case. Perhaps not with the Magnitsky act, yet, but Mr.Trump is dedicated to winning another term in order to get down to the business of re-building the American infrastructure that has basically befallen third world status. </p>
<p>Mr. Trudeau is just not there. He&#8217;s not as innocent as he pretends to be, but he&#8217;s also naive, to the point of  lacking fundamental judgement when it comes to foreign affairs and the well being of the future growth and stability of the Canadian economy and henceforth the well being of its multicultural citizens. Neither is Mr. Singh or Mr. Sheer. But then they are all run by the same operatives in the end , are they not? Its just one big party . </p>
<p>Mad Max, as he&#8217;s called, seems to be on par but then Canada does not have enough of the  &#8220;good old boys&#8221; to concentrate on in order to steal an election victory&#8230;.. too bad for multiculturalism when its run by fools with rules to oppress the young and misinformed. Even Arian Sweden seems to have its share of misinformed youth. </p>
<p>A bit off topic but then so is Mrs. Freeland. She seems to be as fake as her name and her agenda.</p>
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