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		By: Red Covair		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-109377</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red Covair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2020 18:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-107762&quot;&gt;Phelim&lt;/a&gt;.

If you &quot;believe in&quot; Wikiquote, here&#039;s their version : 
        &quot;America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests.&quot;
        Henry Kissinger: The White House Years, quoted from Dinesh D&#039;Souza: What&#039;s so great about America. This echoes Lord Palmerston&#039;s words: &quot;We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual&quot;.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-107762">Phelim</a>.</p>
<p>If you &#8220;believe in&#8221; Wikiquote, here&#8217;s their version :<br />
        &#8220;America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests.&#8221;<br />
        Henry Kissinger: The White House Years, quoted from Dinesh D&#8217;Souza: What&#8217;s so great about America. This echoes Lord Palmerston&#8217;s words: &#8220;We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
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		By: norman widom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[norman widom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 15:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108091&quot;&gt;Max Parry&lt;/a&gt;.

the girls of the idf are here ho init
such goode sniper of the semite childs of palestina]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108091">Max Parry</a>.</p>
<p>the girls of the idf are here ho init<br />
such goode sniper of the semite childs of palestina</p>
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		By: George Mc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Mc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108175&quot;&gt;Max Parry&lt;/a&gt;.

And as I acknowledged here:

“…..Therefore there is a definite contradiction between these terms and socialism.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108175">Max Parry</a>.</p>
<p>And as I acknowledged here:</p>
<p>“…..Therefore there is a definite contradiction between these terms and socialism.”</p>
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		By: Stomper of fuctards		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108357</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stomper of fuctards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 14:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-107625&quot;&gt;J-J&lt;/a&gt;.

Then why not pay attention when they do so that you can avoid stupidity and chauvinism?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-107625">J-J</a>.</p>
<p>Then why not pay attention when they do so that you can avoid stupidity and chauvinism?</p>
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		By: andyoldlabour		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108345</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andyoldlabour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 13:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The grooming of the left by the MIC/Neocons. It was the aforesaid MIC/Neocons who facilitated the rise of Daesh/ISIL. The Kurds and radical Islamists are natural enemies, so the West can use that to foment death and destruction in an area where they are trying to remove Assad. Turkey an unlikely recruit into the NATO ranks has always hated the Kurds and anyone else close to their borders - Armenians, Greeks, Syrians.
Iraq, followed by Libya and Syria is the ultimate &quot;Pandora&#039;s box&quot; of chaos.
If only we had an independent organisation which could step in and put a stop to the conflict, such as - THE UNITED NATIONS - now based in New York, whose duties include being an enabler for US foreign policy (OPCW) and a protector for Israel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The grooming of the left by the MIC/Neocons. It was the aforesaid MIC/Neocons who facilitated the rise of Daesh/ISIL. The Kurds and radical Islamists are natural enemies, so the West can use that to foment death and destruction in an area where they are trying to remove Assad. Turkey an unlikely recruit into the NATO ranks has always hated the Kurds and anyone else close to their borders &#8211; Armenians, Greeks, Syrians.<br />
Iraq, followed by Libya and Syria is the ultimate &#8220;Pandora&#8217;s box&#8221; of chaos.<br />
If only we had an independent organisation which could step in and put a stop to the conflict, such as &#8211; THE UNITED NATIONS &#8211; now based in New York, whose duties include being an enabler for US foreign policy (OPCW) and a protector for Israel.</p>
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		By: A. Scott Buch		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Scott Buch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 00:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108206&quot;&gt;richard le sarc&lt;/a&gt;.

Ha ha. I&#039;m with you. 
I think it&#039;s one of the absurdities that can arise out of a mania for only &#039;epistemologically sound data.&#039; It then becomes &quot;rational&quot; to insist on the illogical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108206">richard le sarc</a>.</p>
<p>Ha ha. I&#8217;m with you.<br />
I think it&#8217;s one of the absurdities that can arise out of a mania for only &#8216;epistemologically sound data.&#8217; It then becomes &#8220;rational&#8221; to insist on the illogical.</p>
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		By: richard le sarc		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108206</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richard le sarc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108184&quot;&gt;A. Scott Buch&lt;/a&gt;.

What &#039;epistemologically sound data&#039; is there that points to Oswald as the lone gunner being the assassin of JFK? The &#039;magic bullet&#039;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108184">A. Scott Buch</a>.</p>
<p>What &#8216;epistemologically sound data&#8217; is there that points to Oswald as the lone gunner being the assassin of JFK? The &#8216;magic bullet&#8217;?</p>
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		By: Max Parry		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108189</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Parry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108104&quot;&gt;Stomper of fuctards&lt;/a&gt;.

The bourgeois hysteria sure is strong in the &quot;Rise Up for Rojava&quot; crowd]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108104">Stomper of fuctards</a>.</p>
<p>The bourgeois hysteria sure is strong in the &#8220;Rise Up for Rojava&#8221; crowd</p>
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		By: A. Scott Buch		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108185</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Scott Buch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108175&quot;&gt;Max Parry&lt;/a&gt;.

But if socialism is at its core about worker control over the means of production, then there is no contradiction with anarchism here. Also the anti-statist aspect of anarchism is not in contradiction with any basic conception of Communism by a traditional Marxist. 
The main tension between anarchism and socialism lies in the question of the State. 
Undoubtedly there is an irreconcilable tension between anarcho-capitalism and socialism, but no self-respecting anarchist considers anarcho-capitalism to be a legitimate form of anarchism. Anarchism is a fundamentally anti-capitalist political theory. However I do recognize that these are the ways I have chosen to define such terms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/12/23/how-the-pro-war-left-fell-for-the-kurds-in-syria/#comment-108175">Max Parry</a>.</p>
<p>But if socialism is at its core about worker control over the means of production, then there is no contradiction with anarchism here. Also the anti-statist aspect of anarchism is not in contradiction with any basic conception of Communism by a traditional Marxist.<br />
The main tension between anarchism and socialism lies in the question of the State.<br />
Undoubtedly there is an irreconcilable tension between anarcho-capitalism and socialism, but no self-respecting anarchist considers anarcho-capitalism to be a legitimate form of anarchism. Anarchism is a fundamentally anti-capitalist political theory. However I do recognize that these are the ways I have chosen to define such terms.</p>
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