Phillipe, it is indeed a sad indictment.

try brushing gently with salt n eating lots of fruit n salad.

I agree. On weight of evidence – real evidence – a lot of people would do time.

Following this Beijing situation with interest. They don’t have the same get outs as last time ie “we didn’t know it was serious” (their words, not mine) so it will be instructive to see how they explain the spread to the west. If that happens of course.

Re the HRC, glad some things don’t change 🙂

I say we should just keep collecting evidence. Nuremberg II might take a long time to get its act together, but the human race has no future along the path it is currently following… I’m certain that any “second wave” would be as planned as the first, inasfar as the media would milk it for all they’re worth, until we all just want to die…
Yes the Hard Rock Cafe is still there, open 5 – 9 pm, and with live music! Too noisy for me, but the food was good last time I was there!
 
 

🙂 Definitely don’t want to go down with bullshit!

Unfortunately their waves, be that first or second, don’t require our belief. They have plenty of people buying into it – enough to achieve whatever their objectives may be. I always thought that if Covid 1984 was a bio-weapon, it was a bit shit. Perhaps their next one won’t be. Who knows?

Mass hysteria is unfortunately predictable if certain conditions are met. It’s like clockwork. Facts are irrelevant. It’s the narrative that counts. It’s the reason companies have such large advertising budgets. A sad indictment of what we have become.

I don’t know if it’s still there but I remember going to the Hard Rock Cafe and eating a ‘pig sandwich’ aka a loaf containing half a pig. Like a snake, it took me about a month to digest.

Re the ‘experts’ I think you make a good point. I’ve noticed the same thing when Johnson makes his pronouncements. I’m certainly not a fan of his but it does look as though he’s under duress. Not that he deserves any credit for being coerced. UK Column have recently presented some interesting evidence concerning who is really running country.

The fewer people wearing masks the better. If those wearing them perceive themselves to be in a minority, I believe that will bother them. Herd instinct is hard for some people to overcome. If it seems that the herd is moving in a different direction, perhaps they will feel compelled to join in. It’s doing the right thing for the wrong reasons but at this stage we can’t afford to be picky.

As for the ‘second wave’, I do have to wonder. If we accept the ‘first wave’ was planned then why not a planned second? Perhaps that is why Beijing is locking down. Fauci has a lot to answer for.

What we need is another Nuremberg, but I would bet the mortgage money that it will never happen. A lot of people should go to prison for a long time. Maybe in a parallel universe.

Hi Phillipe, 2nd wave be damned! I don’t believe there will be one largely because I don’t believe there has been a first one!! Just the thoughts of one loony conspiracy theorist!
 
I think China know this is bio warfare being wrought on them and are taking immediate action to curtail its effects.
 
I think you are right about the demographic of the mask wearers, those that have nothing to lose. What surprises me is the number of under 40yrs who are wearing them. As our Chief Medical Officer and WHO said, younger adults are not at risk from it. 90% of the population will not get it and those who do, will have only very mild symptoms. So,why the masks? Gosh, the power of mass hysteria and propaganda over facts is frightening.
 
Like you, I go out of my way to steer clear of these masked crusaders for fear of catching the virus called bullshit.

I miss the warmth of my earlier life in the southern UK and in the USA, but there are other kinds of warmth than the purely physical ones, and on a sunny June day, like today, Iceland is unbeatable. Still, the summers are really far too short for my liking…
On topic, I think I can detect a certain amount of stress in the expressions of some of the experts who come on TV here to talk about CoVid, as if there is pressure on them to say things which they are not entirely comfortable with saying, but, on the whole, I reckon we’re doing okay compared with most of our European neighbours.
I took a walk in downtown Reykjavik yesterday, and I can’t remember seeing a single mask! Bottles of hand disinfectant are everywhere, and the 2-metre reminders painted onto the floor haven’t been removed yet, but many people are ignoring them. Of course the TV “experts” have to keep warning people to be careful, mainly because they want to keep their arses covered if there should happen to come an apocalyptic “second wave”, but that isn’t going to happen. The science against it is too solid – and there wasn’t really even a first wave in any case…
 

Indeed. It’s a bad time to be a fan with the amount of shit incoming.
 
It’s a good point re the manner in which the economic situation will perhaps change the views of the mask cheerleaders. I have noted, amongst the people I’ve spoken to, that the biggest proponents for lockdown, masks etc are those who have retired ie they have no skin in the game anymore. I know a few younger people who are buying into the mayhem, but they are in relatively secure employment so, again, are not and will not be materially affected.
 
If the lockdown in Beijing is anything to go by, we should be expecting ‘them’ to launch their ‘second wave’ at us fairly soon, so maybe the mask mafia won’t have time to consider the error of their ways and will, instead, enjoy telling the rest of us how right they were all along.
 
I will definitely be social distancing the shit out of those people.