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		By: jpweek		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-209182</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jpweek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208821&quot;&gt;Hsuan&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s because it&#039;s the CIA running the drugs. It&#039;s pretty well documented. Think Ollie North.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208821">Hsuan</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because it&#8217;s the CIA running the drugs. It&#8217;s pretty well documented. Think Ollie North.</p>
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		By: sharon marlowe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sharon marlowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208805&quot;&gt;Skeptic&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Skeptic:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208805">Skeptic</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Skeptic:)</p>
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		By: Darren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 21:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trudeau and his Finance Minister are currently embroiled in a major corruption scandal and both are being asked to resign.  Google:  WE Charity Scandal]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trudeau and his Finance Minister are currently embroiled in a major corruption scandal and both are being asked to resign.  Google:  WE Charity Scandal</p>
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		By: polistra		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208834</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[polistra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[None of this matters.  Both countries are lost in permanent lockdown.  There won&#039;t be an economy to worry about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this matters.  Both countries are lost in permanent lockdown.  There won&#8217;t be an economy to worry about.</p>
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		By: jim McDonagh		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208833</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jim McDonagh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208683&quot;&gt;ame&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree.That is certainly apparent these days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208683">ame</a>.</p>
<p>I agree.That is certainly apparent these days.</p>
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		By: jim McDonagh		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208832</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jim McDonagh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208696&quot;&gt;Grafter&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve spent some non tourist time in Mexico over the years since the 1960s and always viewed everyday life there as the future for the Americans and Canadians while tourists believe that the poverty , corruption , and lack of services represent the past.My personal  view which seems increasingly accurate these days in both Canada and the US as the wheels fall off of neoliberalism , and straight up global tyranny replaces it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208696">Grafter</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent some non tourist time in Mexico over the years since the 1960s and always viewed everyday life there as the future for the Americans and Canadians while tourists believe that the poverty , corruption , and lack of services represent the past.My personal  view which seems increasingly accurate these days in both Canada and the US as the wheels fall off of neoliberalism , and straight up global tyranny replaces it&#8230;</p>
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		By: Hsuan		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208821</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hsuan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting (but not surprising) that no one in the political arena addresses the problem of the cocaine coming from Colombia thru Mexico into the U.S. which is keeping the narco-gangs in Mexico in business. It&#039;s even more interesting that Colombia is not only a close ally of the U.S. with U.S. troops and military bases there, but also Colombia&#039;s status as NATO&#039;s first Latin American global partner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting (but not surprising) that no one in the political arena addresses the problem of the cocaine coming from Colombia thru Mexico into the U.S. which is keeping the narco-gangs in Mexico in business. It&#8217;s even more interesting that Colombia is not only a close ally of the U.S. with U.S. troops and military bases there, but also Colombia&#8217;s status as NATO&#8217;s first Latin American global partner.</p>
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		By: Skeptic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208739&quot;&gt;sharon marlowe&lt;/a&gt;.

As a side note, the Coca-Cola link goes even deeper.
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Our current covid-tzar, studied at the (cough, cough) John Hopkins Centre. He received millions in grants from the Bloomberg Foundation to lobby for taxing carbonated drinks and other harmful foods. And you bet he he did, working for the previous government of Peña.
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And that is perhaps the sole reason for the ultra right wing coup. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208739">sharon marlowe</a>.</p>
<p>As a side note, the Coca-Cola link goes even deeper.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Our current covid-tzar, studied at the (cough, cough) John Hopkins Centre. He received millions in grants from the Bloomberg Foundation to lobby for taxing carbonated drinks and other harmful foods. And you bet he he did, working for the previous government of Peña.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
And that is perhaps the sole reason for the ultra right wing coup.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
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		By: Skeptic		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208800</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208739&quot;&gt;sharon marlowe&lt;/a&gt;.

Gilberto Lozano, owner of the biggest Coca-Cola bottling plant in the world, is obviously an oligarch and crackpot with a grudge towards the opposing group of oligarch crackpots with which AMLO is making very good business. He is most likely plotting (or pretending to) remove AMLO. But to be fair, the guy was also plotting (or pretending) against our previous president Peña (not precisely a &quot;progressive&quot;). 
&#160;
And that last one is an interesting bit of information, because, beyond all the theatricals, it draws the line between the two groups fighting for power: on one side AMLO, who aligned himself with the previous PRI administration (the party from which he emerged) and the neo-liberal/conservative wing of Calderón (2006-2012) and Fox (2000-2006, former CEO of Coca-Cola in Mexico). 
&#160;
100% of AMLO´s speeches are (fair, on point) critiques of previous governments, but somehow he never mentions the government before his.
 
Beyond that, the international alignments seem to suggest that AMLO´s wing is perhaps better positioned: Génaro García Luna, CIA´s narco-security state guy in Mexico during Calderón, was arrested while living comfortably for almost a decade in Miami. That kind of arrest can´t be decided by a local judge in Brooklyn, and he wouldn´t be living there with all his criminal baggage if he wasn´t confident that previous agreements would be preserved. Some top negotiations occurred, and for AMLO, who (correctly) called for García Luna´s prosecution and who made of him the biggest symbol of the corruption and criminality of previous governments, was hugely significant.
&#160;
Also, the supposed leaked document is laughable. I can´t understand how someone would present it as prove of some right wing plot to topple AMLO (which like I said, it is most likely brewing as I write this). It isn´t signed, it was delivered to the president´s office who presented it saying they &quot;couldn´t corroborate its origins or authenticity&quot;.
&#160;
When one understand the theatricals involved in Mexican politics the only thing clear is that everything could happen and that everyone is playing a part in the farce. Mexican telenovelas have more credible plots. 
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And AMLO gains a lot from portraying himself as the progressive victim, I wouldn´t be surprised if we learn later that the document was produced by AMLO´s propaganda team.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/23/the-outcome-of-the-trump-amlo-meeting/#comment-208739">sharon marlowe</a>.</p>
<p>Gilberto Lozano, owner of the biggest Coca-Cola bottling plant in the world, is obviously an oligarch and crackpot with a grudge towards the opposing group of oligarch crackpots with which AMLO is making very good business. He is most likely plotting (or pretending to) remove AMLO. But to be fair, the guy was also plotting (or pretending) against our previous president Peña (not precisely a &#8220;progressive&#8221;).<br />
&nbsp;<br />
And that last one is an interesting bit of information, because, beyond all the theatricals, it draws the line between the two groups fighting for power: on one side AMLO, who aligned himself with the previous PRI administration (the party from which he emerged) and the neo-liberal/conservative wing of Calderón (2006-2012) and Fox (2000-2006, former CEO of Coca-Cola in Mexico).<br />
&nbsp;<br />
100% of AMLO´s speeches are (fair, on point) critiques of previous governments, but somehow he never mentions the government before his.</p>
<p>Beyond that, the international alignments seem to suggest that AMLO´s wing is perhaps better positioned: Génaro García Luna, CIA´s narco-security state guy in Mexico during Calderón, was arrested while living comfortably for almost a decade in Miami. That kind of arrest can´t be decided by a local judge in Brooklyn, and he wouldn´t be living there with all his criminal baggage if he wasn´t confident that previous agreements would be preserved. Some top negotiations occurred, and for AMLO, who (correctly) called for García Luna´s prosecution and who made of him the biggest symbol of the corruption and criminality of previous governments, was hugely significant.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Also, the supposed leaked document is laughable. I can´t understand how someone would present it as prove of some right wing plot to topple AMLO (which like I said, it is most likely brewing as I write this). It isn´t signed, it was delivered to the president´s office who presented it saying they &#8220;couldn´t corroborate its origins or authenticity&#8221;.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
When one understand the theatricals involved in Mexican politics the only thing clear is that everything could happen and that everyone is playing a part in the farce. Mexican telenovelas have more credible plots.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
And AMLO gains a lot from portraying himself as the progressive victim, I wouldn´t be surprised if we learn later that the document was produced by AMLO´s propaganda team.</p>
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