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The Reaction of the Left to Lockdown

Darren Allen
In April I wrote a postscript to my critique of the ‘unofficial left’ (David Graeber, Noam Chomsky, Media Lens, etc.) criticising their non-response to the already highly suspicious coronavirus narrative. Things have moved on — now into the past tense — so here is the same summary, now updated and revised.

A deadly pandemic, we are told, swept across the planet, forcing governments to massively enhance state and police power, lock everyone up in their homes and bork the economy. National governments, transnational institutions and all media outlets were of one voice. Panic.

We just had to put millions and millions of people out of work then shut them up in a heavily policed panic room.

Anyone unable to perceive the foundations of the unofficial left might imagine that they would have interrogated this extraordinary situation, that they would have critically appraised official accounts of the severity of the ‘pandemic’, that they would have asked themselves what the likely effects might be of putting so many people out of work; or that it would have been the perfect time for ‘radicals’ to seriously question the functioning of the system, to explore wider questions about its stability and to critically investigate vested interests; perhaps also take a look at the universal denial of death and how easily people can be manipulated by playing on their fears, or even explore the possibilities for genuine revolt as the economy contracted. They would have been disappointed.

What was the response of the unofficial socialists mentioned in the original article?

Did they criticise the official story?

Did they ask if anything else might have been motivating their leaders than altruistic concern for human life? Did they question the extraordinarily repressive measures governments have taken to contain the problem?

Did they question official figures (or even looked at them — many were surprisingly frank)?

Did they take a second look at other epidemics and pandemics (such as the flu pandemics of 57 and 68: each of which were twice as deadly as C-19), or at deaths from influenza under normal conditions (around half a million a year — about the same as C-19), or at deaths from other similar illnesses, like pneumonia?

Did they sound any alarm bells about rather suspicious proposed solutions such as an express vaccine, contact-tracing and so forth?

Did any of these people ask any seriously critical, or even very interesting, questions?

The answer to all of these questions was an almost entirely predictable no. Every man jack of them fell straight into line.

Jonathan Cook peeped his head about the parapet for a split-second, spiritual astronaut Caitlin Johnstone asked one or two questions on peripheral matters before concluding that she finds ‘the whole thing ultimately irrelevant and boring’, XR started rubbing their hands, Afshin Rattansi vaguely gestured towards a few sceptical RT pieces and Paul Kingsnorth sat in a barley field and stared majestically into the sunset. But that was pretty much it.

I say ‘almost’ predictable because even I was surprised at how uniformly subservient all these people turned out to be. That, with a handful of noble exceptions — OffGuardian, Neil Clark, Piers Robinson and Tim Hayward — the entire left-wing, official and unofficial, were instantly, totally, unquestioningly behind the crime of the century was, I admit, something of a surprise.

So total and unanimous was it that — and I’m probably not alone here — I’ve more than once had to look at the entire matter again from the start to check, ‘yes Darren, you’re not mad. It really has happened this way.’

It is now clear — and was evident in April — that the coronavirus wasn’t anything like as bad as it has been presented (it was downgraded by the British government long ago from the most serious category of illness). That survival rates were around 99.99%, that the vast majority of deaths were the very old (over sixty five) and infirm (at least with pre-existing conditions). That it was and is almost completely harmless to people under 50 (it’s effectively impossible for a child to get it), that it didn’t have an unprecedented supertragic impact on ICUs around the world (Spanish hospitals are regularly overburdened in flu season). That masks don’t appear to be particularly effective[1] and neither does the two-meter rule (essentially made up), that official figures — particularly in those countries most desirous of becoming entirely autocratic — were inflated by including people dying with the virus rather than merely dying of it (along with, it seems likely, other statistical shenanigans[2] ).

That those countries which didn’t lockdown — such as Sweden and Japan — did absolutely fine (while New Zealand — a more isolated country on earth you cannot find — would have done fine, but chose instead to push 70,000 children into poverty). That the wealthiest people in the world become much, much richer, that we’ve taken a massive lurch towards a techno-dystopian world controlled by an ever shrinking cartel of IT companies and that lockdown has destroyed and will continue to destroy the lives of millions upon millions of poor people (the UN predicts a ‘biblical famine,’ possibly as many as 300,000 deaths a day), all for no good reason.

Not that I care about ‘the economy’, nor about some of the wonderful freedoms that have been lost (oh gosh, no football, no theatre[3] , no pubs[4], no protests, woe), nor do I think the world has, as so many are now lamenting, ‘become’ dystopian — it has actually just, as I have already predicted, ditched a Huxleyan dystopia for an Orwellian one.

The point is ‘the wrecked economy’  refers to the bottom 80% of economic activity — and if that is obliterated, what is going to take its place? Will the system just let everyone see to their own well-being, handing out no-strings-attached UBI to do so? Unlikely.

It’s the same with losing our freedom to assemble — if that is lost, what will we have instead? Greater freedom? Really? In fact, it’s the same with the other big issue of the day, defunding the police — great, but do you think that the system will just let anything go? Or will it replace the police with private security forces, automatic surveillance and punishment and state-approved ‘community policing‘ (i.e. woke militia)?

Lockdown enthusiasts and supporters, implicit or otherwise, of the coronavirus story are keen to dismiss scepticism as a form of ‘conspiracy theory’ citing as evidence the beliefs of those most vehemently anti-mask, anti-lockdown and anti-forced-vaccine, which range from reasonable doubts about the motives of Bill Gates, the WHO, the WEF and so on to climate-change denial, flat-earth theories and the cosmic dance of David Icke’s lizard-people.

This is of course one of the oldest tricks in the book; dismiss an idea by citing the unrelated attitudes and actions of its most extreme adherents.

‘Look how crazy/evil/stupid these people are — here is an example of one of them saying something completely crazy/evil/stupid!’ (Lockdown sceptics do the same thing; ‘Look how mad they are; they want us to have sex through glory holes!’)

Speaking for myself I don’t have much interest in theorising about, for example, this document, currently doing the rounds which is said to be a ‘blueprint’ for the new world order we are entering; a cashless society, lived almost entirely online, under constant bio-surveillance; an updated version of China’s horrifying social credit system, in which discipline and punishment are practically automatic. The reason being that such medial agents of social change are a) debatable and b) secondary.

It is the distal process that we are embedded in, the entire context, the entire system (see my account, here) and the proximal ego which created and maintains it which much be understood and dismantled, not this or that cartel or cabal, secret or otherwise.

It is the system as a whole which results in the new world order.

That those the system rewards, promotes, places and keeps in power are halfmen hell-bent on turning reality into an earth-munching pleasure machine is not a cause of our ills, but a consequence. What’s more, speculation about such details actually only ends up serving power, which is why power has always sought to incite such debate and limit access to deeper and more distant comprehension.

I’m not dismissing enquiry into the functioning of international elite planning, which interests me as much as it should anyone else, but the point is that the final and most appalling stages of the dystopian nightmare we’ve been living for millennia is no more the result of this or that Betelgeusian Reptoid than depression is the result of the boss, or impotence is the result of the wife, or boredom is the result of having nothing to do. Focusing on the boss, the wife or the broken playstation is to enter a debate which is as futile and pointless as ‘do masks work?’

For further information, here is my account at the time, here is a good overview by Dmitri Orlov, here is another good account and here another, here are OffGuardian’s resources, here is a thorough up to date summary by the ‘SPR’ (whoever they are), here and here are some decent assessments of mask-wearing, here is Charles Eisenstein’s typically fair (and typically sugary) assessment, here is a good assessment from back in March of what lockdown would lead to and here is an excellent and very thorough (socialist![5] ) critique of the left’s response to the coronavirus.

OffGuardian and the SPR seem to make a few unproven claims and cite some questionable sources, and they do somewhat tend towards the conspiracy-theory end of the speculative spectrum; but so what? The same criticism can be made of many critical voices. I’m always interested to hear about errors in such accounts, but what matters is what they are saying as a whole. Most of the figures they quote are official statistics; in many cases the facts are now in plain view.

According to the NHS and ONS in the UK, for example, a tiny number have died in the UK of the coronavirus, the vast majority of which were over 65.

Facts about Sweden[6]  and Japan are equally transparent, as are facts about how many people usually die of flu, which has been suspiciously quiet this year, or of similar diseases, such as TB, which nobody is power has ever given a toss about, certainly not now that an increase in TB deaths is due to lockdown.

But this is actually besides the point here. Even if it turns out that c-19 is uniquely dangerous, that it really has killed more people than any other flu since the second world war, that it really did require a world-wide poor-destroying lockdown, that a dangerous vaccine really is necessary, as is more invasive state-corporate surveillance and face-masks and all the rest of it, or that, most fancifully of all, that all the governments of the world really do suddenly care about our health.

Even if all this and more turns out to be true — and there is a faaaaar-distant chance that it might[7]  — that still doesn’t excuse complete acceptance of the official narrative by those people who are supposed to question it. Imagine if the government said ‘Quick! The Russians are attacking!’ The job of radicals, outsiders and so on is to investigate that claim, to check whether it is true, to doubt — even if the Russians actually are coming!

Media Lens, George Galloway, Jonathan Cook, Glenn Greenwald, Afshin Rattansi, The Canary, Moon of Alabama, Aaron Bastani, Ran Prieur, Noam Chomsky and many, many others — even John Pilger and John Zerzan, neither of whom I’d have guessed to fold[8]  — just let the lockdown happen, cheered for it, pushed for stricter controls.

The question I asked about Media Lens here — what were they prepared to allow in order to feel safe — certainly found an answer. No ‘hang-on a moment’, no ‘do we really need the state and the police and the tech companies of the world to be immensely more powerful, no ‘but what might all this lead to?’ no ‘buts’ at all!

They all entirely accepted the situation as it was officially presented and ignored all counter-evidence. It’s hard to avoid the conclusion that they are all quite happy for us all to live in a far more authoritarian state to deal with a virus that may well have killed a microscopic percentage of the world’s population but will very likely kill millions of people as a result.

Again, hard to be 100 per cent certain, but even if there’s a tiny chance that C-19 is no worse than seasonal flu and that lock down will result in oceans of avoidable misery, it’s the radical left that should be spearheading the criticism.

But no. They have no interest in or any kind of lived experience of poor and working class realities, or they have a visceral fear of disorder, impurity and death which motivates their stunning insensitivity to such matters, or they are cynical opportunists ever-ready to leap on a moral-panic bandwagon, or they are members of the professional class worshipping at the altar of management (which you are now a murderer if you disobey), or they are more interested in identity politics and Eckhart Tolle, or they are too proud to admit they were wrong, or they are straight cowards.

A blend of all of them I think, but whatever the reason they support the civilised system at the most fundamental level. As William Morris observed, although the middle-class is comprised of lovely, lovely individuals, it is from left to right, ‘a most terrible and implacable force’.

I was asked on Twitter what should be done with the left. Surely they just need to be safely shown the facts of the situation and be gently led round to seeing things as they are, or at least to question how things appear to be, try to persuade them they’re wrong. I don’t agree. Argument isn’t ever totally useless, for reasons I’ve explained elsewhere, but debate hasn’t worked because it can’t work.

As with all matters of real importance, this goes much deeper than the facts — which is why they’re all of one voice.

The only appropriate response to the socialist left is the same as that to the capitalist right; ignore them, expose them and resist them.

As time goes on this will become clearer and clearer.

Read the original article — an anarchist critique of ‘unofficial socialists’ (such as Noam Chomsky, David Graeber and Mark Fisher) here.
See also the latter chapters of my free guide to the unworld, 33 MYTHS OF THE SYSTEM for more critique of the reformist left and its systemic priorities.

Notes:-

[1] Although note the hot topic of the day, endlessly ‘investigated’ by Media Lens and company — should we wear masks? — is the very essence of a loaded question, like ‘should we beat our children with slippers or canes?’ or ‘should we defend ourselves from devils with moral purity or charms?’

[2] Now admitted by the British government

[3] Meaning no anaemic middle-class theatre of course, as it almost entirely is.

[4] No fan of pubs, me; but I do recognise that their original function, as a public house, is occasionally served to men and women in need of same.

[5] What this corona-event has shown is that left and right have nothing to do with a certain kind of independent thought. When John Pilger is retweeting Piers Morgan and Peter Hitchens is retweeting me clearly another quality is revealing itself. Not sanity or intelligence (decent people can be fooled, for example, and ‘independent’ nutbags reflexively blame ‘them’) but still one of importance. Regardless of whether C-19 is a fraud or not, those who default to suspicion are eo ipso more independently minded than those who default to acceptance and these two qualities naturally cut across the fake left-right divide.

[6] Routinely compared, by lockdown supporters, to neighbouring scando-countries, rather than to other European countries, and without taking into account that Sweden were, apparently, a bit lax with their care-home policy. Care-homes like geriatric wards should, of course, have been taken care of during this crisis, as they should be during any flu season.

[7] I’d have egg on my face, but I’d be quite happy to admit I was wrong as I have been many times before.

[8] Pilger is fine with this happening in his native land. I emailed to question him about it, but he didn’t reply.

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D3c0y
D3c0y
Sep 17, 2020 11:51 AM

There’s a lot of holes in this argument. I agree that it’s important to remain critical and objective in these times, and there are state advantages to government lockdowns for sure, but you are politicising an unknown disease carried in the blood that targets an individual’s biological weakness.

If we didn’t lockdown, what do we do when the virus mutates into deadlier strains?

Your comparison stats don’t tally with the current Coronavirus death rates, which show it to be just as bad, if not worse than the previous FLU pandemics – Why?

You also mention it being a way to accelerate some sort of Tech based dystopian fiefdom, but that’s essentially where the world was headed before (if slower).

In my opinion, this article is where free-thinking hippies merge with the Libertarian extreme Right. Two Axis somehow meeting each other amidst the madness. A psychology borne out of fear and mistrust perhaps.

Mark R. Elsis
Mark R. Elsis
Aug 22, 2020 9:15 AM

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crank
crank
Aug 21, 2020 8:24 PM

‘Everyone who writes about propaganda and government lies is expected to have a really strong opinion about Covid-19 and masks and lockdowns, but I just don’t and I can’t help it. I find the whole thing ultimately irrelevant and boring and have nothing to add to the debate.
I find that people get ridiculously irrational and emotional about it, and I find that both sides of the debate have a lot less evidence for many of their beliefs than they think they do. I pay attention to actual concrete policies which threaten to facilitate pre-existing authoritarian agendas like increased tech surveillance, and I’ve written multiple articles about such things. But getting involved in the hysterical shrieking about masks, the economy and just how deadly the virus actually is blah blah blah is just intensely boring to me. I think a lot of the intensity in this debate has a lot more to do with the fact that people are scared and stressed out than actual facts and data. I see a lot of sloppy thinking and conflation of issues that should be kept distinct, and not a lot of emotional wisdom. I think discourse about the virus would greatly benefit from people just taking responsibility for their emotions, feeling their feelings all the way through, completely divorcing themselves from partisan thought, thinking carefully, then seeing what remains.And that’s really the extent of my opinions on the matter. There are a lot of people who are a lot more knowledgeable than myself on the actual science of these matters, and I have nothing to add to that conversation. Sorry if that doesn’t conform to your expectations. ‘
Caitlin Johnstone (Twitter 16th July 2020).
[https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1283547746411003904]

In my opinion, this amounts to no less than a resignation letter from any and all serious political legitimacy from early 2020 onwards.
She is someone who has spent years trying to engage people with the intention of getting more of them to question media stories through the application of reason, open minded scepticism, the checking of facts from primary sources, exposure of conflicts of interest or of the mechanisms for the control and manipulation of narrative. Yet for some reason, this particular narrative is ‘boring’ to her. ‘Sorry, nothing to add”, she says. Facts and data are to her no more than ‘blah blah blah’. Sceptics becoming alarmed at the disparity between facts, data and narrative, are to her, merely ‘getting emotional and irrational’.
In short she has thrown in our faces all the dissmissive, toxic and dehumanising put downs that have been levelled at her and all serious critics of the propaganda system by the worst perception managers of our era.
I think she believes in karma.
(If not I think she will soon.)

Researcher
Researcher
Aug 19, 2020 8:24 AM

There’s a glitch in your matrix and you aren’t enjoying your cognitive dissonance as much, now that the left is revealing their true colors.

The left doesn’t exist. Neither does the right. They’re oppositional constructs within a Hegelian Dialectic.

This covid mess has exposed the controlled opposition Gatekeepers like Greenwald, Pilger, Chomsky, Graeber, Klein and Zizek.

They can’t be so misinformed or delusional not to know the difference between science, genetic engineering, pseudoscience and social engineering.

There’s only a handful of people right now telling the truth.

The central bankers, industrialists and eugenicists have been embedding their AI technocracy into every aspect of “civilized” society with absolute and total government collusion.

How are you going to stop Gates from injecting you with his DNA changing vaccine? Are you looking forward to becoming one of the technocrats‘ new genetically modified organisms?

You might want to look into “Living Foundries” DARPA, nanoparticle vaccine, RNA self assembling nano particles, “smart dust”, “the Brain Initiative”, Charles Lieber nanowire, protein-DNA coupling, DNA nanowire.

Zoonotic transfer is fiction.

Flus (and deadly Coronaviruses) are vector bioweapons created in labs and put in vaccines.

Vaccines don’t save lives. They make people very ill. All modern day diseases including cancer, auto immune disorders and neurodegenerative diseases are linked to vaccines and the massive toxic load on our bodies through chemicals, geoengineering, pollution, GMOs and radiation.

It’s already known that Stock Markets are Ponzi schemes, designed to bubble and bust to extract wealth.

Corporations are tax avoidance shell companies engaged in massive fraud and labor exploitation.

Drug cartels and crime syndicates are protected and partner with government agencies, military and security state apparatus.

The banks launder crime money, drug money, child exploitation and human trafficking proceeds. They’ve been doing so since their inception.

And we’re supposed to believe there’s no conspiracy? The evidence shows otherwise.

The overt and covert biomedical interventions already exist and they have been deployed for decades, in our food, water, drugs, products, and atmosphere.

More lethal and dangerous bioweapons will be introduced once the vaccine mandates take effect.

There’ll be no redress for anyone after 5g, digital currency, social credit, vaccine delivery, biometric surveillance, global ID, facial recognition and AI are integrated and implemented.

We may already be past the point of no return.

Good luck with that, ‘I doon’t need to know why….’ shtick.

VoxiPop
VoxiPop
Aug 19, 2020 6:04 AM

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VoxiPop
VoxiPop
Aug 19, 2020 6:29 AM
Reply to  VoxiPop

The above was a mistake – please ignore

VoxiPop
VoxiPop
Aug 19, 2020 6:34 AM
Reply to  VoxiPop

Apologies! –the above is a mistake.

Cricky
Cricky
Aug 18, 2020 7:24 PM

Here’s an effort made by a group that you might consider to be part of ‘the left’. (The leftness is really not important. They are a group of people trying to get a discussion going).

This was a one-day symposium that has just been held in New Zealand, the COVID-19 Science and Policy Symposium, organised by CovidPlanB.

There are 9 talks by New Zealand and international academics from various fields. They show from various perspectives that the current policy is wrong and generally causing more harm than good. Many of you will likely already be familiar with a lot of the content of the talks. But it might still be of interest to know about the event. The talk schedule is here: https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/17-august-webinar-programme.pdf 

The symposium has – perhaps not surprisingly – had very little press coverage. It was held live on Monday. It was originally planned to be held in the Parliament buildings. but had to shift online, because the country suddenly went into lockdown. The livestream of the video on Facebook was reported to have stopped working (during the first talk I think), but the whole symposium is (August 18) still available on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf_zWtdKKKQ

Cricky
Cricky
Aug 18, 2020 7:33 PM
Reply to  Cricky

By the way, posting this is not at all intended to argue against the article. I agree that it has been utterly astounding to see the extent to which almost everyone seems to be shutting their eyes and putting their fingers in their ears. I just wanted to share this information. One counterexample. It’s also a demonstration of how much of a role the media plays in defining the narrative. Information like what they are presenting has a very hard time reaching the public.

VoxiPop
VoxiPop
Aug 19, 2020 6:07 AM
Reply to  Cricky

From your link (which you may want to check as it doesn’t land on the home page of the site but a 404 page)
“International health data and experience is showing that New Zealand’s lockdown is unnecessary, and even more harmful than the problem we’re trying to solve.
Plan B represents the knowledge, perspectives and questions of a multi-disciplinary group of expert and passionate people on how and why New Zealand should modify its response to COVID-19.”

thank u for this, it looks interesting.

Cricky
Cricky
Aug 19, 2020 7:35 AM
Reply to  VoxiPop

Thanks a lot for letting me know about the link. Here it is again, the link to the pdf of the talk schedule: https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/17-august-webinar-programme.pdf Or go to the website http://www.covidplanb.co.nz click on the Event tab at the top and scroll down to where it says ‘Click here to download the event programme’.

VoxiPop
VoxiPop
Aug 19, 2020 8:36 AM
Reply to  Cricky

not only that – i would strongly suggest they enable donations by Pay Pal. I tried to donate with my valid credit card and had problems. Contact info on how to support would be welcome. I’d be willing to help them get their message out in a more concrete way.

And thanks for the message. Its amazing how just SOME communication can make a difference – keep posting about this! : )

Cricky
Cricky
Aug 19, 2020 6:06 PM
Reply to  VoxiPop

thanks! I’m not affiliated with the group, but an email has been sent to pass on your feedback re payment and your paypal suggestion

Cricky
Cricky
Aug 20, 2020 7:46 AM
Reply to  Cricky

Got a reply that they’re aware of the problem and are working on it

John Steppling
John Steppling
Aug 18, 2020 12:51 PM

more than a few left voices left out, ones that actively criticized the lockdown from day one. Hiroyuki Hamada for one. Myself …here http://john-steppling.com/2020/07/the-cunning-of-covid/ and Club de Cordeliers and Phil Greaves, both on twitter.

Mensch59
Mensch59
Aug 18, 2020 7:36 PM
Reply to  John Steppling

Thanks for the correction.

Darren Allen
Darren Allen
Aug 17, 2020 8:52 AM

A brief coda. Lots of comments here about the left not really existing, about left being right, and so on, some of which I agree with, but which are rather besides the point because, as I said below, language is not a collection of dictionary definitions — it responds to context. In one context left and right (like, say, theism and atheism, or idealism and realism) describe certain people, those I list here for example (who, in this context, are different to right wing journalists at the Telegraph) and has use (as, for example, the focus of my criticism here, which doesn’t include Telegraph journalists) while in another, more profound context, yes, the terms are illusory (left and right are both civilised, relativist, technophilic, democratic, etc, etc).

Generally when talking with a friend, there is leeway with this kind of thing. When disputing with someone on the internet a vast amount of unnecessary effort has to go into clarifying terms which, within the context they are presented, make perfect sense.

Nicos
Nicos
Aug 17, 2020 4:30 AM

What’s missing from many of these debates is the relationship of politics to religious or spiritual belief, we have been sold this idea that liberal Democracies, whatever that means, are secular but actually everyone has religious and spiritual beliefs, and certainly groups do, whether they are in Government or just citizens, we all serve some higher power, or belief, it’s what governs the those who govern the government, philosophically or theologically we all serve some set of values. So what belief are you, what are the Governments ?! Judeo-Christian Buddhist, pagan, islamic, agnostic, confuscionist, lucifarian, satanic, hindu, atheist, scientologist…..this relationship of these doctrines to state legislations is too often unspoken of, as if such things were all separate, and not connected. All I will say is, one knows the tree by its fruit

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 17, 2020 7:14 AM
Reply to  Nicos

“All I will say is, one knows the tree by its fruit.”

~~ ibid.

‘All I will say is, one knows the tree by its fruit: cryptocurrency?’

Clever, all I will say, for the Golden Calf to no longer accept gold as a medium of exchange for its crypto-currency.

Only crypto-gold. For its crypto-info.

Clever!

How like it !?

falcemartello
falcemartello
Aug 17, 2020 2:38 AM

THE LEFT IS DEAD
To call anyone individual of the above mentioned persons to be of the left is a great insult to Gramsci, Engles or Marx and Ernesto.
The left or may I say the social justice warriors the antifa’s and the so called resistance and all the George Soros and NED funded entities are basically the brown shirts of the post modern era. These entities are all beards to an ever dystopian fascist reality that we in the west are living. True left or old school left questions everything. True left believes in the working class and the peasant class of society . True left would never agree to medical fascism.
POST SCRIPTUM; In my youth use to find myself polar opposite with most liberterians. I use to fall into the trap of the left right paradigm and would almost not be able to distinguish between liberterians and fascist.
Hence having moved on from my Marxist shackles and letting go of my idealogical shackles I find myself to be more in tune with libeterian reasoning.
Docius IN Fondem: Last but not least. Simple reason and logic and asking valid questions this day and age has all been thrown out the window (throwing out the bath water with the baby analogy) .Hence this is a threat to humanity and life itself these sweinhund have managed to gaslight most individuals in the west that we must stop living and being human(quintessentials) in order to live for a virus that has the lethality of 0.04percent of the world population.
STAND UP GET UP FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO LIVE OR DIE IN THIS FASCISTIC DYSTOPIA.
VIVA LA LIBERTA

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 16, 2020 11:19 PM

Just came across this:

“if you torture the data enough, it will confess to anything” – Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize Economist (1910-2013)

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 18, 2020 3:47 AM
Reply to  Barovsky

Awesome citation, it will replicate itself in my travels more abundantly than any covid virus, for real.

Rick Giombetti
Rick Giombetti
Aug 16, 2020 10:37 PM

Here Slavoj Zizek calls for “Wartime Communism”:

Do I even want to listen to him ramble on all over the place like he does?

The analogy is as bad as the defenders of the latest imperialist adventure by the U.S.comparing it to re-fighting World War 2. We’re the United States. We have the privilege of never having suffered through a modern war where the entire society was shattered by it. There is no military force in the world even remotely capable of coming to our shores and turning us into something akin to Russia in 1918, or China in 1949. One could at least argue with revolutionary Russia and China during those years that they were governed by states taking over war shattered societies. Hence, the justification for authoritarian war time measures in those societies. They were literally fighting for basic survival. The U.S. government faces no such problem.

Of course, the people whose lives are the most impacted by all the restrictions in the name of “fighting Covid 19” are working class people. People with enough money can go on with their lives like they did back in February. Hence, you get the Congress, almost all them multi millionaires, taking its scheduled Summer break without providing any more added relief to the suffering masses.

Perhaps Nancy Pelosi will show us all the latest ice cream she has stocked up in her $24,000 refrigerator at home during her Summer vacation.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 16, 2020 11:23 PM
Reply to  Rick Giombetti

Yeah, I think Zizek is a wanker and a racist one at that, pronouncing on events from his comfortable ivory tower. He epitomizes the intellectual left in the imperialist heartland and is most definitely part of the problem.

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 16, 2020 7:58 PM

We don’t have time for another pie-in-the-sky “My version of utopia is better than that of the Bankers.” NO ONE can design a better polity– the people have to do that in all their changing circumstance. That’s why we need DECENTRALIZATION, individual villages, cities & counties with copious input & control from their citizens.

Money is a social construct & permitting it’s monopolization by private tyrants has given them their outrageous power. Nationalize the banks– let each American State imitate the Bank of North Dakota instead of empowering these creeps who’ve given us the covid exaggeration.

Every country should have its own central bank and currency; end dollarization & control.

If we nationalized the banks now we’d get back most of the 20 trillion! stolen during the covid hoax. ellenbrown.com › 2020/05/18 › another-bank-bailout-…

http://www.commondreams.org › views › 2020/05/18 › anot…

https://www.globalresearch.ca/imf-wef-great-lockdown-great-transformation/5721090 Peter Koenig

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 18, 2020 5:20 AM
Reply to  Penelope

My sentiments exac5tly, posted on a recent thread (last week). I should know, I grew up surrounded by bankers and wankers in Beverly Hills and “The Valley” but left it 50 years ago, simply unable to breathe that smog, physical and even more of it spiritual. I’ve compensated by Life in many a ‘hood since, and thank God for them! Matthew 5: “…blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.” That economics is biblical. It’s a sign of this realm that we so often need to be reminded.

Meanwhile, the bankers who have manipulated this covid scam just like they have “their world” currencies, will prefer to continue to interpret that Gospel allocation as the traditional 6 feet of earth.

£4£&$4$&€4€~~~~

“I fear banking interests more than standing armies.”. ~~~ Jefferson

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 18, 2020 5:45 AM
Reply to  Penelope

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies,” Jefferson wrote. … “The issuing power of currency shall be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”

~~ Citation in Forbes magazine. November 6, 2011

Jefferson comment, over 200 years past. (Whatever else, Jefferson was an optimist, “…shall…”. Hence, the “standing armies”.)

Thom
Thom
Aug 16, 2020 7:37 PM

We don’t actually know the reaction of the left, because the mainstream and alternative media is almost entirely either establishment or right-wing.
Actually, I suspect the real Left are pretty happy at the way events are going. The right-wing are losing all credibility even with their own voters, and you can sense the desperation in the media as they try to put a spin on the whole coronavrus debacle.
It’s pretty clear vast middle-class majority won’t put up with five years of the imcompetence and corruption of upper class dullards like Johnson and Cummings.
We’ll probably return soon to the kind of moderate government we had under Major and Blair, and I suspect it will be retirement or prison for the many politicians and spies who colluded with the far-right in the United States in these crazy months, and betrayed the British people.

Kalen
Kalen
Aug 16, 2020 7:23 PM

In politics terms Socialist, communist, liberal, conservative, social democratic, progressive, Liberitarian, Nationalist, globalist, syndicalist , statist, (Maoist, Stalinist, corporatist, elitist, identists etc., ), progressive, anarchist, populist, leftist, fascist, sectarian to name few including their many complex intersections of political groups became meaningless labels in eyes of public. All are fake political concoctions with no historic meaning and exist in only in political zoo encompassing bourgeois liberal democratic or autocratic political framework established by ruling elites exclusively to support socioeconomic system of modern capitalism as socioeconomic system of reproduction of broadly understood commodity/capital cycle and social relations based on domination, exploitation, money and profit some 500 years ago in England.

All those variety of groups created by and within the bourgeois liberal framework
ultimately, wittingly or not are aimed at division population and to create illusion of diversity of political forces and hence possibility of population induced change while there is no such possibility in the systemic framework they exist and where they invented their meaning encompassed by their ideologies.

it is politicians that want us to forget that any social change desperately needed by majorly of people is possible only outside of that theatrical puppet show called professional politics or professional activism.

instead generations after generations face their own false hopes and political betrayals as it is exactly what bourgeois liberal machine is best producing.

We must abandon bourgeois liberal political framework of deception, dump exploitative capitalist social relations including property relations and instead self rule by consensus within framework of equal, equitable and egalitarian society defined by caring and sharing as only subject of social completion. Their is no other way, or nightmare will continue.

Sjeetok
Sjeetok
Aug 16, 2020 7:39 PM
Reply to  Kalen

You are advocating historical and political illiteracy, in your idiotic campaign against ‘labels’, and demonstrates zero understanding of history, politics and linguistics, truly idiotic.

In the USA that may have worked well because you are pushing at an open door, with a room of badly educated readers, but in Europe we understand political history better, so you and the CIA may have a harder time pushing your BS.

Kalen
Kalen
Aug 16, 2020 9:10 PM
Reply to  Sjeetok

Again, no arguments only helpless ad hominem attack and self emasculating historical ignorance about steady and convenient evolution of agendas of Europe’s political parties and your extreme political naïveté implicitly denying the very purpose of quite successful massive propaganda campaigns including CIA and its subsidiaries Five Eyes and EU security apparatus propaganda (BND was created by US in Washington DC) to politically confuse young people in Orwellian style of double speak, changing meaning of terms expediently.

Over 50% young by some polls say they prefer socialism over capitalism having today no clue of either only interested in any change of painful for them for them status quo that arrests their future.Anything that would ease their own discomfort or suffering, nothing more, no ideology or mature political idea behind their ad hoc forced by suffering convictions.

None of old political parties of Europe political agendas resemble their initial even successful programs. Greens despite rhetoric are now for pollution and environmental devastation to save planet, socialists despite rhetoric are now for capital against labor, nationalists despite rhetoric are for EU and global financial and economic integration, communists marginalized, self annihilated by infighting or destroyed under attack of global neoliberalism gave up on working class and revolution, nominal fascists massively infiltrated by totalitarian security apparatus more radical than fascist that themselves, are nurtured only as curious zoo exhibits to scare population while real genocidal corporatists/fascists rule EU mafia emporium .All of that puppetry is a part of one neoliberal show you seem to enjoy and what is worse seem believe is real.

As a fellow EU citizen, my friend, I am asking to wake up from torpor of European grandeur of past ages and see the light of sad reality of today.

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 16, 2020 8:02 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Economic independence and therefore political freedom is based upon the ability to own property, including real estate. Economic equality by law is the cancellation of political & legal equality

Hizick
Hizick
Aug 16, 2020 8:49 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Economic independence can be independent of property ownership. There does not need to be any link at all. Most Germans rent and are more free than most Americans. And since only regulated markets exist, the regulation of more equality is perfectly within the realms of a ‘free’ society. Total freedom if course is a fantasy as is total equality.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 16, 2020 9:20 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Slaves and wives were property once.
Owning your own personal inanimate belongings is allowed. But only the very few get to own land houses and the minerals underneath them. Having forcibly taken control of them or ‘bought’ them from these who did.
Even freeholds have ground rents and leaseholds are limited.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 16, 2020 9:16 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Glad to read that K

seanobraonain
seanobraonain
Aug 16, 2020 3:59 PM

Watch Shadownet before it disappears

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 16, 2020 8:07 PM
Reply to  seanobraonain

You can’t have convincing, distracting theatre w/o any of this. The entire “Trump is outside the establishment” is a lie: He has had gargantuan bank credits to get him where he is– impossible for an outsider. He talks down the WHO to make you think he’s opposed to all of this– after giving megabucks to GAVI, the Gates vaccine alliance.

And the billionaire-controlled media obligingly paints him as an “outsider.”

Sjeetok
Sjeetok
Aug 16, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  seanobraonain

I don’t trust a word said in this video.

seanobraonain
seanobraonain
Aug 17, 2020 1:03 PM
Reply to  Sjeetok

Well now it´s been removed and the journalist is in prison..so everyone can relax I suppose.
I thought some of it was questionable, but mostly very coherent and believable.

Researcher
Researcher
Aug 21, 2020 9:01 AM
Reply to  seanobraonain

Alex Jones = Prison Planet = CIA = Disinfo for Dummies

ame
ame
Aug 16, 2020 3:46 PM

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kevin
kevin
Aug 16, 2020 6:21 PM
Reply to  ame

So sadly true. But why? Cowardice?

Researcher
Researcher
Aug 21, 2020 9:24 AM
Reply to  ame

Excellent.

Willem
Willem
Aug 16, 2020 8:38 PM
Reply to  kevin

If you can experience it during a movie, you don’t have to experience it when at home. Escapism makes life more bearable.

The good thing about this, is: people don’t like the boot licking.

The bad thing is: they think they can escape from it, but escapism doesn’t work. Hence the movies, etc

Waldorf
Waldorf
Aug 17, 2020 4:48 PM
Reply to  Willem

I read somewhere that an actual majority of films made under the Third Reich were comedies. It was found that audiences were looking for escapism. Heavy Nazi themes were not particularly popular except with already committed Nazis.

Dave
Dave
Aug 17, 2020 12:30 AM
Reply to  kevin

Catharsis.

Reg
Reg
Aug 17, 2020 1:48 AM
Reply to  Dave

Exactly. The Greeks had it right when they said that.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 16, 2020 2:42 PM

Who would have thought that you could read the following in the Mail on Sunday?

Back in March, their famous SAGE committee produced a document, ‘Options for increasing adherence to social distancing measures’. It concluded that we were not yet frightened enough.

It said: ‘A substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened.’ So we needed to be scared into compliance.

It recommended: ‘The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging.’

So the hidden persuaders went to work with their doom-laden warnings, their house arrest, their claims that we are all toxic to each other, and their swollen death tolls.

Now they seek to keep up the anxiety levels by trying to make us wear loose, soggy muzzles.

And here we are, perhaps for ever, unless we begin to show a bit of spirit. Remember how we used to boast about how unflappable we were, with our ‘Keep calm and carry on’ posters.

Well, we are not unflappable. We have been well and truly flapped, and this is the price you pay for it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8631149/PETER-HITCHENS-state-sponsored-panic-times-killed-people-Covid-did.html

Willem
Willem
Aug 16, 2020 5:12 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

Or to paraphrase Samuel Johnson

Sir, the mainstream media’s preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 16, 2020 6:47 PM
Reply to  Willem

Nice one!

Tony
Tony
Aug 16, 2020 6:44 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

Peter Hitchens may be on the Right of politics, but he is a truth seeker, a proper journalist. His deceased brother Christopher was on the Left, and the two often disagreed on public issues. But they are/were cut from the same journalistic cloth. Christopher spent years chasing down one of the most evil people in the world, ‘Henry’ Kissinger. Wouldn’t be surprised that his untimely death from cancer at 62 was induced, despite his acceptance that it was down to his lifestyle.

Waldorf
Waldorf
Aug 17, 2020 4:49 PM
Reply to  Tony

Christopher Hitchens was on the left? Certainly not in later years.

Seth Farber
Seth Farber
Sep 1, 2020 12:32 AM
Reply to  Tony

You forget. Hitchens was on the left but ended up a supporter of Geore W.Bush and US brutal imperialist war on Iraq. Even went on MSM to defend him. Very sad and sordid–for the man who wrote great book on Kissinger

crank
crank
Aug 16, 2020 2:27 PM

Under a cruel prince [dissidents] have the balmy compassion of mankind to assuage the smart of their wounds; they have the plaudits of the people to animate their generous constancy under their sufferings; but those who are subjected to wrong under multitudes, are deprived of all external consolation. They seem deserted by mankind; overpowered by a conspiracy of their whole species ‘ Edmund Burke
Doesn’t that ring a bell with us today ? I am less worried about the forces of the state directly as I am about the mentality of the ordinary people around me.
I have always loathed the Tory Right in the UK – a group of self serving, morally corrupted individuals. However, it is only recently that I have read how many self described ‘conservatives’ also despair at what the Conservative Party has become. I am persuaded that the Tories are, in truth, best described as Rightwing Liberals. They have mostly abandoned the landed classes as their power base, embraced the business elites, ‘liberated’ the power of finance, broken down the family as the ‘building block of society’, have no interest in religion, they have dramatically changed the demographic of the UK and opened us all up to the most morally degrading aspects of capitalism.
They are not conservatives in any meaningful sense of the word.
I write this because as well as the Left being for the most part supporters of the Covid dystopia, it is notable that the most vocal and straightforwardly sensible opponents have been conservatives : Hitchens, Aleister Haimes, William Briggs, Katy Hopkins (!), Toby Young et al. I do not gravitate toward these people politically, but I think there is something in the understanding of Burke writing at the time of the French Revolution which has found its way through to the conservative response to events today.

https://www.unz.com/gdurocher/the-essential-burke/

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 16, 2020 2:06 PM

Just a quick comment on the last throwaway line of this article:
It doesn’t make sense.
“The only appropriate response to the socialist left is the same as that to the capitalist right; ignore them, expose them and resist them.”
How do you ignore, expose and resist, all at the same time?
At any rate, I’ll go with the expose and resist thing.

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Aug 16, 2020 1:10 PM

Nothing really new in this article, after all, it’s long understood that the Labour Party since 1997 was hijacked by the Establishment and hasn’t represented the working class since then.

Blair was loved by Thatcher. Brown was a globalist neoliberal. And now to top it off, a Knight of the Realm leads what is meant to be a socialist workers party. You couldn’t make this stuff up, it’s so outlandish.

And that’s precisely why people like Livingstone and Galloway and a few others got kicked out of the party.

Internal party workers deliberately sabotaged the chance of the party in the 2017 general election, prefering de Pfeffel to Corbyn. Corbyn was crucified by the Establishment and party of his own party.

To imply that these hardcore lifelong socialists rebels like Galloway, who fought against the Establishment and got kicked out of the Labour party, are now in bed with the Establishment is a nonsensical notion. It’s being spread here and elsewhere. At the very least it is very naive, or in my opinion, a crafted PSYOPS campaign designed to tarnish their reputations and divide the left even further.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 16, 2020 5:06 PM
Reply to  Frank Speaker

Since 1997? Make that 1910 or thereabouts, basically since the foundation of the Labour Party, the Tweedledum to the Tory Tweedle Dee.

Grafter
Grafter
Aug 16, 2020 12:50 PM

Tall oaks from little acorns grow. Well worth a donation……

https://www.standupx.info

bob
bob
Aug 16, 2020 12:33 PM
JohnEss
JohnEss
Aug 17, 2020 1:54 PM
Reply to  bob

Only the second time I have agreed with Alan Jones. The first was a few months ago when first he let loose on the Conofavirus bullshit.

He is a great ally to have in these dark times, being well-researched, eloquent and used to taking on lying pieces-of-shit pollies.

Daniel Andrews is a shill for the fuckers behind this and Jones knows that, as he is very well connected.

Give this man as much exposure as you are able. He is one of few Strayans speaking truth.

Good on him.

yorkshirelad
yorkshirelad
Aug 16, 2020 10:10 AM

There is no left-right with this nonsense. Consider the middle like Blair who is firmly masked up. It is all about control and arrogance. Across the political spectrum there are people who “know what is right and what is best for us”. Exactly what that “what” is depends on their left-middle-right politics. What we see with this Covid nonsense is how they impose what is “best for us” and when it comes to the how the solution is the same. You have to control the people and have them doing exactly what you dictate to them.

Now those not in power that are in agreement with the methods but are political commentators, such as the left described in this article, are too arrogant to admit they got it wrong. An attitude of “we know what’s best even if you don’t” is very clearly arrogant. So no chance in hell of them admitting they are wrong. As for those in power admitting they got it wrong, never.

There is only one way out of this and that is the rejection of the solution by “the people”. In order for that to occur a lot more people need to cast those masks aside. The mask wearing brown shirts, who abuse the non mask wearers in public, need to be told to f.. off. At every opportunity on media sites the mask wearers need to be reminded of facts that they ignore.

We now have children too frightened to take their masks off in public outside. That’s mental child abuse. There are people being committed becasue they are too frightened to function. Appalling. Get the brown shirts to justify this.

On the positive side there does seem to be an awakening with people although not as fast as it needs to. I suspect when furlough subsidies end, tax breaks end and many companies fold in the Autumn those finding themselves unemployed before Xmas will suddenly wake up.

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 16, 2020 9:25 PM
Reply to  yorkshirelad

Great post, Yorkshirelad. Just one thing left out: The origin of this hoax doesn’t lie w any of the groups you’ve justifiably criticized. It lies w an international group of billionaires who are pushing us into the NWO. You’re not going to eradicate this particular campaign w/o eradicating their power.

For their exact identity, see those who are funding the Global Warming hoax in a US Senate report http://leftexposed.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2014-Senate-Billionaire-Club-Report.pdf It’s NOT left or right, just identifies an money and means by which these people control the upper level of Green orgs. What a pity!

Gavin Sealey
Gavin Sealey
Aug 16, 2020 9:55 AM

Covid-19 is real and is not like seasonal flu. It doesn’t just challenge the respiratory system but causes blood clots that affect other organs. The testimony of medical professionals confirms that seriousness of the disease even though their views on the appropriate responses are mixed. Covid-19 is not the product of a conspiracy; like the medical profession, the ‘unofficial left’ accepts the reality of Covid-19 and differs over the responses. Regardless of what we believe with regard to the seriousness of the pandemic we must know that different interests are jockeying to use it for their own ends, the ‘unofficial left’ as much as the capitalist right. Chomsky has noted that the virus does not threaten human existence whereas climate change and war can end life on the planet. For some of us this is a ‘drill’, exposing the inequities and inadequacies of the structures and giving us the opportunity to put things right before the real storm hits, as we know it will. We don’t serve the poor by returning to the structures that keep them poor but by fighting radically transform those structures in order to end poverty and give us all some hope of surviving.

Kalen
Kalen
Aug 16, 2020 11:12 AM
Reply to  Gavin Sealey

You are misinformed by MSM propaganda unfortunately also Left is kowtowing to.

There is no shred of proof that coronavirus directly causes clots or other internal injuries to organs but instead could be associated with preexisting conditions, like diabetes or some side effects mostly caused by deficient immune system among people with comorbidities or elderly, as clots, ARDS, pulmonary embolism, hypoxia, kidney failure etc., are also associated with many other diseases including severe flu not to mention prolonged hospital stay, applied drug regimes with severe side effects and some specific protocols applied to COVID patients.

Detected Presence of SC2 fragments of viral RNA in blood or guts/stool does not have to mean these organs are infected, but that organism is shedding viral debris dead or alive like any viral debris after immune system effectively is defeating or defeated disease. Hence possibility of positive PCR test results among those free of disease for weeks.

In fact in Italy after conducting autopsies 88% of those deaths In March and April previously officially assigned as COVID were dismissed as there was no post mortem evidences that they died of SC2 viral infection but only with it.

Strangely autopsies of dead in nursing homes and other venues were discouraged or prohibited by new rules to quickly push for cremation within hours from death despite broad families religious objections.all that supposedly because of extraordinary danger of COVID.

Please no more straw man arguments. Almost Nobody here is COVID conspiracy theorist but questions must be asked why despite from the beginning lack of broad consensus among doctors and scientists about SC2 virus itself and Level of threat of COVID, world economy was destroyed in few months supposedly because COVID that was already in May officially classified by WHO and CDC as deadly as bad flu season as they knew that coronavirus completely spares young and children. In UK COVID was removed from dangerous to public diseases list already in March and no revision of COVID status has ever been made.

Political left and right as well as governments and Public health authorities in pockets of big Pharma have their own different motivations to perpetuate deceit of COVID extraordinary danger to human race justifying destructive, draconian measures use for further extraneous political and socioeconomic agendas.

Willem
Willem
Aug 16, 2020 11:29 AM
Reply to  Gavin Sealey

‘ It doesn’t just challenge the respiratory system but causes blood clots that affect other organs.‘

They have been misdiagnosing pulmonary embolism as respiratory infection. Most likely those who were admitted with Covid and were put on a ventilator had (concurrent) pulmonary embolism at time of Covid diagnosis for which they should have received anticoagulation (life saving when treating blood clots) not ventilation.

The chance that physicians are going to admit that they mistreated patients with Covid who actually had (concurrent) pulmonary embolism is approximately 0. I have commented on this issue here before, and it is (talking as a physician) appalling to see how my fellow physicians put their mistreatment under the carpet just to save their faces (and the hospital for being sued)

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 16, 2020 12:34 PM
Reply to  Willem

They need not worry in the UK, the Coronavirus laws absolve them of all common law negligence for either failing to treat ANY patient and also from improperly treating any COVID patient. In the UKj even minor law changes take years of consultation etc, there is a vast swathe of changes to law that could not have been drafted so quickly let alone debated. It was like this was ready templated to go…

Willem
Willem
Aug 16, 2020 1:18 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

All it takes is one surviving patient who ‘developed’ pulmonary embolism after being admitted with Covid and a medical lawyer. What they need to ask is

The complete medical file

And then see if at time of admission Pulmonary embolism was ruled out as alternative diagnosis

If not, they need to ask why this wasn’t done: the symptoms of respiratory infection And pulmonary embolism are very similar.

If they did blood testing and looked at d-dimer (a break down product of a clot) and the d-dimer is high enough to think of pulmonary embolism, yet the patient was not tested at that time for having pulmonary embolism, you have a case of doctors who Potentially missed a highly lethal disease (pulmonary embolism) as they only thought about covid. This is called negligence and in Dutch (medical and civil) law, this is punishable.

Investigative journalists could also ask the following to authors of reports where it is stated that in ‘their’ patients with Covid 20-50% developed pulmonary embolism. How do the authors know that they developed this disease and not actually already had it at time of admission?

You know, the PCR for covid disease is quite faulty and they even treated pcr negative patients as Covid patients because of the symptoms (that mimic pulmonary embolism).

Anyway, your comment as if patients can’t fight back for having received mistreatment is not substantiated. Not in the least. All you need is one patient, or an investigative journalist. You could even do it yourself!

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 16, 2020 7:36 PM
Reply to  Willem

I suggest you read the news laws chico. My comment is substantiated by any Act of Parliament. This is not the USA, Parliament rules not the constitution. I’m not saying it should be like this, just presenting cold hard facts. Your view is lovely but is not reality in law.

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 16, 2020 9:43 PM
Reply to  Willem

Willem, it’s hard to believe but in the US they’ve passed laws giving docs complete immunity for negligence or mistreatment of covid. Some hospital adminstrations push them to treat even when unnecessary cuz hospitals are reimbursed based on treatment.

Undercover nurse is interviewed w bits of undercover video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDsKdeFOmQ

Grafter
Grafter
Aug 16, 2020 11:35 AM
Reply to  Gavin Sealey

The testimony of medical professionals confirms that seriousness of the disease.. “

Yes those well remunerated, government sponsored health advisors along with their big pharma opposite numbers who regale us continuously with a daily dose of the “deadly virus” meme through the loud hailer of a corrupt MSM.

Penelope
Penelope
Aug 16, 2020 9:31 PM
Reply to  Gavin Sealey

Gavin, severe cases of flu cause increased clotting, too– it’s part of sepsis when a pathogen gets a severe hold. In the case of covid, it’s aided by Ace-receptor involvement.
Nevertheless a vast number of studies show that it actually results in fewer deaths (by about one-half) than the severe flu years. Can’t remember the years of the bad flu– mybe 1958 & ’76.

Shut down of the economy is neither warranted nor effective.

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 16, 2020 9:54 AM

At last! Somebody else agrees with me, in writing!!! I’ve been despairing of the left for the longest while but this fucking Virus is, in a way, a blessing in disguise, as it reveals the fault line that runs right through the Western, so-called left and, as the writer says (as I have said) the fascist response has immiserated 80% of the planet’s population! Organised FEAR!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 16, 2020 1:35 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

I’ve been waiting for this article for a long time as well B. And yeah, this year for me has been a real eye opener that large numbers of the ‘Left’ have become complicit in this fascism and either turned into parrots for the establishment narrative, or shamefully kept silent on the whole thing. Tim Anderson is another you can add to Darren’s list.
So much betrayal. It’s hard to stomach. I’ve said it before several times here, but really have to wonder if a number of them were in fact controlled opposition right from the start.
I think Germany prior to Hitler coming to power offers us a very relevant history lesson that these people have forgotten.
Keep forgetting to check out your blog, but actually have some of your essays over the last few years here at home. Cheers✌️

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 16, 2020 5:33 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Gezzah, good to know I’m not the only one reading my work. Your response has triggered another essay on this subject that I’ve been wo, if/whking on all day. I sent my last one (‘The Great Reset’ (of Capitalism)) to OG for publication but got no response, so we’ll try again with my latest, if/when I complete it. There are so many competing issues wrapped up inside the govt’s response(s) to the virus, that unpacking it all, is an immense challenge.

Tony
Tony
Aug 16, 2020 7:21 PM
Reply to  Barovsky

How do I find your blog Barovsky?

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 16, 2020 7:42 PM
Reply to  Tony

Well, my writing is at: https://investigatingimperialism.wordpress.com/

And my ‘general’ blog with writing by others is here: https://williambowles.info/

I also have 2 others, one documents the writing of my friend, the writer Joe Bageant: https://joebageant.wordpress.com/ which you can check out. His writing is amazing. Sadly, Joe died in 2011. (See the original here: https://www.joebageant.org/ ).

And I also have another one, which sadly I’ve sorely neglected that is intended to document the life and work of a comrade and friend in the US, Patricia Murphy-Robinson, Pat to all her friends. Pat sadly died in 2014. Along with other comrades in the 1960s, she was one of the creators of the ‘Red Stocking Brigade’ (see https://www.redstockings.org/index.php/main/classics-of-1968).

https://pmrbio.wordpress.com/

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 16, 2020 8:15 AM

This being Sunday have three birds with one stone short sermon peasants, minions and soldiers of the Empire who may still labour under illusions of ‘truth givers’.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/16/whitehall-power-grab-mayor-sadiq-khan-who-runs-london
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As I have been trying to tell BrexShitheads forever – this is what it has always been about.

‘Curse You’ Khan is no abandoned bride, he is cut from the same cloth and delivering for his masters and will be richly rewarded.

The TfL/Mayoral smash and grab is what the City has done in all its existence, create nation states, set up national banks, load the nation with debt, then pull the plug and pick up all the assets created by that nations people’s endeavour, its wealth – it is just slavery under a sophisticated guise of chains of MONEY.

So as that Ancient City manoeuvres towards its most existential aim – untouchable godgiven Vatican like status – under the guise Singapore on Thames. Behold!

No squirming little man behind the Money Wizard – just a gigantic, ugly, venal beast from the depths of humanities core.
Sovereignty back ?!? Lol. Just kiddies handing their lollipops over to the great beast.

Enjoy your last days of pretend freedom.

Amen suckers.

Tony
Tony
Aug 16, 2020 10:42 AM
Reply to  DunGroanin

The city has always had unique status, with it’s own governance. Some of it is encased in law, the rest unspoken reality always respected by politicians and bureaucrats. No massive expose here Dunny, just a bit of window dressing being done.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 16, 2020 5:58 PM
Reply to  Tony

Wait till you see the City declare UDI in ENGURRLAND.

Tony
Tony
Aug 16, 2020 7:25 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

It doesn’t need to. It has effectively had it for several hundred years. It also has the biggest say in world finance. The notion by you remainers that the EU could take the City’s place on the world financial stage after brexit is as daft as the notion that a cart can pull a horse.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 16, 2020 9:26 PM
Reply to  Tony

The City refuses to play on a level playing field.

It demands exceptionalism from the rule of Law that would be applied to nation states.

You are their shill.

Tony
Tony
Aug 16, 2020 10:13 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

Huh? I don’t support the City’s status. I’m just explaining it to you. Get a grip man.

Ergo
Ergo
Aug 16, 2020 6:28 AM

“Expensive epidemic of runaway stupidity”

I occasionally get hold of the News Corp Australia press, The Australian to find out what the lamestream is being fed and to get a decent wrap for the green garbage.

If anyone can get this weekend’s paper, there is an article by Steve Watson lamenting Victoria’s lockdown, the financial loss, the social losses and the fact of the government’s stupendous blunder, too afraid to admit defeat. “If there is a clearer demonstration of the insidious overreach of the nanny state, I’m not aware of it” writes Steve.

This is the first denouncement in the tabloids that I have found since February.

“..devastating, simple-minded lockdowns and border closures, and to panic people into sporting their masks of obedience….” he says.

“People have dobbed in their neighbours…..publicly funded journalists have treated lockdown like a social media fun-time,….while people in the real economy have lost their jobs…”

Thank you Steve for making this purchase worth the read.

https://amp.theaustraIian.com.au/inquirer/coronavirus-were-paying-for-an-epidemic-of-stupidity/news-story/

Subscription only online.

zdb
zdb
Aug 16, 2020 3:58 AM

Thank you. Well written.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Aug 16, 2020 3:44 AM

Millie Weaver’s Go Fund Me Page Getting Huge Response
https://www.gofundme.com/f/emergency-legal-defense-fund-for-millie-weaver

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1OwxWLPajzRKQ?q=free+millie <Watch ShadowGate doco so explosive it landed the journalist in jail the day it was released

Bryan
Bryan
Aug 16, 2020 8:17 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

Stop Trolling!
This is a psyop move you moron and has nothing to do with the article.

If you think it’s real, then why was Millie the #1 trend on twitter? The whole thing is BS and is being promoted. They (those who are in control) wanted this charade publicized.

Please can you just think for yourself? It’s so tiring of hearing you twats complain about censoring on YT, etc then something like this happens and it’s everywhere on YT. Which is it? If it was so “explosive” then why is it being promoted and everywhere?

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Aug 16, 2020 8:43 AM
Reply to  Bryan

your tiny salary isn’t worth it, is it?

Barovsky
Barovsky
Aug 16, 2020 10:01 AM
Reply to  Bryan

Who the hell is Millie Weaver?

aspnaz
aspnaz
Aug 16, 2020 3:28 AM

The Hong Kong government figures state that on average 1/3 of a person has died of Covid-19 per day, out of a total of 200 deaths per day. Anyone with any empathy would be thinking that the destruction of small family run businesses and social control regulations is too great a price for the sake of 1/3 or a person a day, especially as the 1/3 is a person is mostly robbed of life a few weeks earlier than they would otherwise have died, so when adding the weeks together, we could be talking about a total loss of life of about half a year.

Left wingers pine for an egalitarian society where the interests of society far outweigh the rights of the individual. The left wingers see this Nirvana in Covid-19, where the lockdown does what they always wanted: putting society’s interests above human rights.

Left wingers are tyrants at heart: they want to eradicate your human rights and enslave you in an egalitarian society run by an authoritarian government. At least the likes of MoA, Johnstone, Media Lens etc are showing their true colours: Like the government, they don’t care about people, they only care about their ideology and themselves at whatever cost to their fellow citizens.

The plandemic has done some good In ripping the mask from their faces and revealing the monsters behind: they are now on the Davos team helping to shepherd the mutton.

Reg
Reg
Aug 16, 2020 3:45 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

Spot on, aspnaz. It’s remarkable how their eyes glaze over when you say this orchestrated hoax is killing people through the destruction of their livelihoods and taking away their reason to live. These people are beneath contempt.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 16, 2020 10:50 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

The rights of the individual and the interests of society are not opposed to each other. Society is a society of individuals. There has to be some kind of order for the whole thing to work.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Aug 16, 2020 12:18 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Nonsense. Lockdown is taking away the rights of the individual in order to “save” society: They are 100% opposed.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 16, 2020 10:51 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

I am making a general point. Society is simply a community of individuals. Your view implies you want to live alone on an island.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Aug 17, 2020 2:35 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Imprisonment is taking away someone’s human rights. Just because you think imprisonment is a necessity for society to survive does not change that fact. Life is grey, there is no black and white.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 17, 2020 9:05 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

I wasn’t talking about imprisonment. It’s a general point. Individuals live in a society. A society is a community of individuals. Yes, some individuals can rule over others but that doesn’t mean it’s the fault of “society” in general. Just one kind of society.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 16, 2020 12:38 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“there has to be”. The tyrant in you is palpable. No choice. No free association.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 16, 2020 10:54 PM
Reply to  Ælfræd

I simply said there has to be some kind of order. What does your associationof free individuals mean if it is not a society?

Reg
Reg
Aug 16, 2020 1:43 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Well, you’re getting your wish. It’s called the New World Order. They’ve been banging on about it for decades. You WILL wear a mask, you WILL lose your identity and individuality, you WILL exist only for the collective good, you WILL be rewarded according to how well you have behaved and you WILL die if it is determined that you bring no value to society (start coding, dear chap, AI is big now) and your access to things that keep you alive is powered off. Imagine that paradise of peace, tranquility and emotionless, robotic existence when all spontaneity and humanity have been thoroughly flushed out of us. It will be great for the environment and end all wars, according to those who promote this technotopia.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 16, 2020 10:58 PM
Reply to  Reg

Why is it so difficult to understand that I wasn’t talking about the lockdown? I am just sick of this knee jerk macho “rugged individual” nonsense that denies ALL society.

Reg
Reg
Aug 17, 2020 1:53 AM
Reply to  George Mc

OK, OK, I get what your saying.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 16, 2020 12:37 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

Well said.

Reg
Reg
Aug 16, 2020 3:13 AM

It’s been a while but John Titus is back with a new video on the criminal enterprise known as the Federal Reserve. He’s worth a watch, as always . . .

Paul_too
Paul_too
Aug 16, 2020 11:34 AM
Reply to  Reg

Great video, he nails it. Mirrors exactly what Michael Hudson has been pointing out since Feb.

Rick Giombetti
Rick Giombetti
Aug 16, 2020 3:04 AM

Haven’t read the original article from April, but you can include Chris Hedges among the ranks of the left that stands down the moment corrupt corporate “science” sells the public a “deadly” viral pandemic.
I do think Graeber’s criticism of modern bureaucracy, particularly business bureaucracy, provides the best assessment of what is going on with “The New Normal”. What’s not so new about it is the bureaucratic discipline being imposed on people. Employees in particular. So employers are implementing “The Guidelines” with almost no dissent. Nothing “Marxist” or “Socialist” about any of this. Bourgeois consciousness and germaphobic sensibilities is what is being imposed on the masses. Employers never like to lose an opportunity to impose new rules for disciplining employees. But what makes this different is that these are rules that are being imposed on customers, with the threat of violence against the non-complaint. We’re seeing check points being set up at every entry to every pubic space. We had better do what we are told, or we’re not getting in. The entrances to every public space are gradually being transformed into something akin to the entrance to an undemocratic workplace. Not good, and most of what passes for a left is on board with this depressing, anti-social, anti-human enterprise.

Ort
Ort
Aug 16, 2020 7:53 PM
Reply to  Rick Giombetti

Your comment resonates strongly with a comment I wrote last month, so I’m re-posting most of it here; FYI, I live in a suburb adjacent to Philadelphia, PA (USA):
______________________________________________________

I don’t fly, i.e. travel by aircraft. But after “9/11 changed everything”, and airports were transmogrified by onerous ritual complications in the name of “anti-terrorism” and “security”, my mild inhibition hardened into a firm refusal to set foot in airports– except for a couple of occasions over the years when I had to meet someone flying in. In the US, the airport boondoggle is the province of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA).

Even during those rare visits, although I remained in a waiting area separated from the security checks, I was depressed and exasperated at the sight of everyone dutifully trooping along and jumping through the hoops.

I mention this because when the draconian lockdown, etc. measures were established, I saw early on that they were intended to exist “for the foreseeable future”, which is a euphemistic way to say “permanently”. I described this as “the TSAification of all public spaces”, and everything that’s happened since has confirmed this appalling assessment.

Unfortunately, only a minority– not a vanishing minority, perhaps, but a minority– of people seem to have a low tolerance for acquiescing to dehumanizing absurdity. Put the other way around, my pessimistic sense is that most people will simply go along with authorities, even if they realize that the authorities are perpetrating pernicious and destructive nonsense.

Rick Giombetti
Rick Giombetti
Aug 16, 2020 8:42 PM
Reply to  Ort

Yes, the armed fortress that is the airport since the end of 2001 is a good analogy. We used to just be able to walk into the store and walk out without being subjected to what we have to go through to get in and out of an airport gate. Now the experience is quite different “The Guidelines” of “The New Normal”.

We are seeing the beginning of the end of the physical retail store, period. Very self serving for tech companies to tell you to stay home and be a digital consumer.

Was at a local grocery store the other day and what sounded like a digital message was played over the PA system. It reminded everybody that they must wear face covers while in the store. If they have “exemptions” for wearing them, then consider their electronic curbside pick up and home delivery options. Which is another way of saying don’t come in the store if you aren’t going to wear your muzzle. So much for the “exemptions” to the mandatory mask laws.

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Aug 16, 2020 1:15 AM

Alas, we keep on doing this “the Left” thing. Please. If you’re going to talk about Centrists like Chomski as “the Left” then the term has no meaning. (It is a simplification to begin with that embraces how many different types and biases?) We might as well call Trump “Left” for his latest maneuverings on the election. Chomski has been Establishment all his life. Most academics are (no offense intended here.)

His latest maneuverings are interesting besides (or additional to), as I have said in another thread, his usual snake oil salesman with mouth routine. He is currently playing the “Re-open America” card and has taken in tow one Dr. Scott Atlas*, whom he repeatedly praised at his news conference the other day.

For example, in his conference part on this re-opening gambit, Trump said a number of things that sounded straight out of Scott’s mouth, as with: “The number of cases is not the metric to focus on.”

Of course not but this is the main canard on which the entire edifice of panic in the US currently depends. What it suggests to me is that Trump is playing the Open Up America again card, calculating approval that translates in November, and which is bound to come with this approach. .

Then he applies the very same sort of metric he’s disparaged (refers vaguely to it), to give the impression the Economy at this point is fine and dandy, and will be very powerful come November. Trump is here mixing what he must know is a powerful longing to be free of this fucking virus with a lot of talk about helping people and the economy.

Now, people who believe this is Trump playing 4D Trump with every move presciently calculated and successful–good luck with that. I don’t. But I can’t deny Trump is politically potent. Writing him off, particularly against this ludicrous Biden-Harris opposition, not a good idea.

The other card he’s playing, being carefully dangled and poised, is the Barr-Durham investigations, to bring out in due time, and with a load of glorious dirt pasted over the Dems generally, and copiously. Tucker is sure to get into it.

*50 minute interview with Dr. Atlas (same vid I posted in a previous thread)

“The science on social distancing is embarrassingly weak—pseudo science”



John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 16, 2020 3:26 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

Simply put, Trump has been walking around with a whole mouthful of the stuff since he was spawned. He calls Roy Cohn his “mentor” — one of the most infamous scamps since Goebbels. A disgusting person, Trump will say whatever. Revolting.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Aug 16, 2020 3:39 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

An easy definition: The left puts society before the indivdual and the right does the opposite. The “left” in this article are putting society before the human rights of the individual: they are definitely “left”.

Huskynut
Huskynut
Aug 16, 2020 7:46 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

I’m not keen on exactly that definition – both left and right can be plotted on a separate axis from collectivist to individualist in terms of individual freedom.

I see left/right more as the wealth of society should be distributed either relatively equally/equitably (left) or according to individual skills/merit (right)

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 16, 2020 8:40 AM
Reply to  Huskynut

Stop looking at that one dimensional axis created to keep your eyes locked to – like a hypnotised chicken !

Raise your head and see the up/down axis instead and add the third and see the pyramid of power – Money.

It protects itself by hiding the top in clouds and all the rest of humanity playing the three stooges act of left/right slapping/ gouging/ balls kicking and murder in the self delusional cartoon dimensioned delusion.

JS Mills/ KH Marx were the prophets sent to invent that landscape.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 16, 2020 10:53 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

And like all easy definitions, clumsily reductionist. Society and the individual exist in a reciprocal relationship.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Aug 16, 2020 3:42 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

Trump has not trampled over his citizens’ rights: polar opposite to the democrat governors. Trump appears to be the USA’s only hope at this moment in time.

Ælfræd
Ælfræd
Aug 16, 2020 12:41 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

He’s probably the only hope for the Western world.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 16, 2020 3:44 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

I find it quite difficult to imagine this guy as one of the bad guys… (fingers crossed)… lol what a face. He’s perfect.

zdb
zdb
Aug 16, 2020 4:17 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

Thank you.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 16, 2020 8:34 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

Took your time getting through the door of perception- but welcome. Better late than never if not too little too late!

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Aug 16, 2020 2:45 PM
Reply to  DunGroanin

Pathetic. If you and other Trump worshippers have hope in “a snake oil salesman with mouth,” good luck to you. In my view the Dems are underestimating him politically, as they did in 2016. That’s what I’m talking about, not glorious leader and hope of the western world. I’ve got to assume that last is satire. We’re equally fucked with what we’ve got as “government” at this time IMV.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Aug 16, 2020 12:47 AM

And then there’s the Left run totally amok – as in the US. Breaking News is the “Secret Indictment” arrest of journalist Millenial Millie as she completes documentary on total spying and Psy Ops at the highest levels with former NSA Whistleblowers – Please watch “ShadowGate” doco which has landed Millie in prison on felony charges!

The USA is absolutely no longer any standard bearer for freedom of speech, far from it.

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Aug 16, 2020 12:50 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

Just to be clear -both the documentary and the arrest details may be found at the above url.
I appreciate being able to share this here – thank you.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 16, 2020 3:30 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

I had two agents approach me last year, in the same month, and each spend a moment or two in a cordial chit chat. In leaving, they both said, “Be careful. It’s not a free country.”

No scheiße Sherlock.

zdb
zdb
Aug 16, 2020 4:17 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

How is #millieweaver trending on Twitter for the last 18 hours? Please splain how Jack Dorsey is suddenly a Trump supporter?

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Aug 16, 2020 4:35 AM
Reply to  zdb
  1. Her EXPLOSIVE documentary aired and she was arrested 18 hours ago I would surmise
  2. not familiar, maybe you can tell me?
zdb
zdb
Aug 16, 2020 4:57 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

Brian on HighImpactFlix pointed this out a few hours ago. Jack Dorsey has been a Bill Gatesian jerk censoring all over. Now all the sudden he’s trending an Alex Jones channel? Trending on Twitter doesn’t happen without Dorsey putting effort into it.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 16, 2020 9:04 AM
Reply to  Voxi Pop

So the Re elect Trump campaign is shifting up gears as it goes to the grassroots with this elections version update of Breitbart/Infowars/red neck sucking up etc … what exactly is the dye blonde, most influential under 30, ex model Republican revealing about the bipartisan Republican/Democratic coupgate plot?

With a timely indictment by some backwater GJ!

Some of us still prefer the written word rather than the wizard eyeball skewering.

Do tell.

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Aug 16, 2020 12:32 AM

I think…there’s up, and there’s down….up has one side, and down is furnished with many, its a divisive operation that feeds the false impression that these pretentious leanings will at some time discover even ground and so progress us into fairer level of existence – its a pathetic stunt, ruled by invention, comlpication ,confusion and propoganda etc…and helped along by the placement of pompous and self-absorbed cretins that isolate the upper from exposure by concentrating minds on the promotion of their imperious ramblings and oh-so important reputation.

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Aug 15, 2020 10:59 PM

How does it feel to the fresh baked Censors here at off-Guardian to behave and act like the Censors in “The Guardian”?

Didn’t took long…

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 15, 2020 11:10 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

If you’ve had your comment put in detention, I’m pretty sure we all have at some point. OffGuardian editors have stated many times that it is not them doing it. I’ve had and heard of some comments taking up to twelve hours to get posted. I like to think of it as comments being put in lockdown over a suspicious virus. Then the OffGuardian editors release the comments from lockdown in defiance. ;D

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Aug 16, 2020 2:42 PM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

I know I posted a strong image…
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, for . and + for /

I guess they are scared!

Objective
Objective
Aug 16, 2020 12:25 AM
Reply to  Voz 0db

I think everyone gets sent to the spam folder at some point, i seem to get 2 or 3 comments ‘waiting approval’ a day.

If you’ve inserted several links or commented several times in quick succession then its likely why, their spam filters do seem very sensitive, i’m sure they have their reasons.

I’m assuming its not just me this happens to cos i don’t think i’m interesting enough to be marked for special attention LOL.

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Aug 16, 2020 12:47 AM
Reply to  Objective

It’s standard procedure.

Objective
Objective
Aug 16, 2020 12:55 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

What is, randomly picking comments for approval? it can’t be a SOP because it doesn’t happen to every post 😉

Aldous Hexley
Aldous Hexley
Aug 16, 2020 2:08 AM
Reply to  Objective

Expect randomness and inconsistency. It’s the way it is. Admin has explained this over and over again. This is my last on this topic.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Aug 16, 2020 9:08 AM
Reply to  Aldous Hexley

And what about the selective cancellation of notification emails?

You still get yours when someone replies to your comment?

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 15, 2020 10:43 PM

We have a “manif’ in Montréal and Quebec City every Saturday morning now… It is becoming quite a beauty… I don’t have info on assistance yet… I’ll try to post video (this is my first comment)

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 15, 2020 10:45 PM
Reply to  Theobalt
sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 15, 2020 11:00 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

It’s all in french. “manif” means “demonstration”, so it’s a demonstration against lockdown and/or mask-wearing, I presume?

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 16, 2020 12:39 AM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

Yes, yes and yes… and yes to anti-vaccine I also presume… (haven’t watched the video)…. BTW the french are not bad people… I find myself having to specify that a little too often… people of the world have been well brainwashed for a few decades now… all part of the plan… As for what he is saying in the video… I don’t think the good people of this site would find anything new here… An unconfirmed virus not killing many people if any is turning our lives upside down in an unacceptable way… at least lets show up face uncovered whenever we can

sharon marlowe
sharon marlowe
Aug 16, 2020 1:54 AM
Reply to  Theobalt

Thank you, Theobalt:)

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 16, 2020 4:20 AM
Reply to  sharon marlowe

N’Importe quand madame

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 15, 2020 10:59 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

Main stream paper has reported 100 in assistance of last week’s, which was a shameless lie. Correct numbers will be difficult to gather… but we are definitely not alone, and we’re definitely pissed off.

Jill
Jill
Aug 15, 2020 10:26 PM

This is Texas. Ron Paul interviews Robert Kennedy Jr. Well o.k. then!

https://youtu.be/_kJdOtnBUcw

Cherubino
Cherubino
Aug 15, 2020 10:25 PM

This is the best scientific study I have ever seen on the ineffectiveness of mask. I am not sure if he is a virologists but I am quite sure he is not a dentist.

RobG
RobG
Aug 15, 2020 10:11 PM

OffGuardian and the SPR seem to make a few unproven claims and cite some questionable sources, and they do somewhat tend towards the conspiracy-theory end of the speculative spectrum; but so what?

Anyone who can’t see what’s going on at the moment must have had a frontal lobotomy.

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Aug 15, 2020 11:26 PM
Reply to  RobG

(“Anyone who can’t see what’s going on at the moment must have had a frontal lobotomy.”)

– Or, they consume absolutely nothing but MSM – like most people I know.

Ok, ok, you’re saying in that case – ‘what’s the difference?’ Fair point as they’re effectively ‘lobotomized’ either way.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 16, 2020 4:20 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Jim Hogue said on his show, “The House at Pooh Corner” at WGDR.org, when I was a guest, “When the autopsy is done, mass media will be marked as the cause of death.”

Extending that, MSM and obese creature comforts will be listed as the cause of death of most of our Western “democracies”.

I’ve always thought , since merest youngsterhood, that what real liberties we have are not much prized for their nobler calls to a progressive justice.

And that deficit has brought this, it appears. Not defended. No immune system for rogue “cells”.

£4£&$4$

“it is my strong conviction that a realist conception of human nature should be made the servant of a progressive justice, and not turned into a bastion of conservativism, especially one which defends unjust privileges.”

— Reinhold Niebuhr

“It is a dirty truth that many people find fascism not particularly terrible.”

— Michael Parenti

Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz
Aug 16, 2020 5:18 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

(““When the autopsy is done, mass media will be marked as the cause of death.”) – great quote John.

However, given the current pandemic psyop it goes without saying that said “autopsy” will in fact be ‘altered’ to instead read – “covid” – as the cause of death.

And of course this will be done with complete and total media complicity – thus proving the truth of the original quote.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 16, 2020 9:06 AM
Reply to  Gary Weglarz

Good call, Gary.

Yes, it is their very own Reality TV World, isn’t it, almost everything fully malleable.

Everything but the will of God.

Thats how I see it, anyway.

I think the Taoist calls it the Wu Wei. As in, “The Force”.

£4£$4$~

“Dont be too proud of this technological terror you’ve constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the Force.”

— Lord Darth Vader

I’m cognizant of the “Lord” title because, as original bad boy as he is, one thing he is not is a technofascist, on account of the Old Religion. The Jedi in him cannot be subtracted, and by virtue of that alone he soars above the Gates and that ilk. He responds to the Force in bad faith, but it’s still all about the faith. That doesn’t seem to be lost on him. But he’s got to give up his swag addiction and be more cool, he’ll be all right. But the others live in a dead zone where all has been digitalized, like the Matrix. That’s just not really “happening”.

That latter, seems to be the Plan. For all of us.

Fooey.

kevinpk
kevinpk
Aug 15, 2020 10:06 PM

I find it strange that we have countless articles like this which question the validity of what we are told about the ‘virus’ but never go that step further and ask the next most obvious question – does it actually exist? The reason is because no matter how much they think otherwise almost EVERYONE has been brainwashed in to believing Germ Theory is correct. They cannot bring themselves to question it because the brainwashing within them is so strong to do so would be the equivalent of calling in to question the Moon landings. That said there is another aspect to this entire hoax which is never pointed out and it astounds me that it never is because it is one of the most absurd parts of the entire episode.
Why is it that children and younger people remain unaffected? Which virus have you ever heard of before that does not infect people based on their age? It’s an absurd proposition but it is never mentioned especially when you consider it is meant to be almost identical to a flu virus!
So if it were the case young people are not affected by it , then the most obvious thing any Government would do would be to invest millions in determining exactly WHY this is the case in order to find a cure. I mean think about it. If this were a Hollywood movie isn’t that EXACTLY what the hero would do?
But no. No one even thinks about it. Instead they waste billions on searching for a vaccine. As they say you would never be able to make this crp up and sell it as a film script to Hollywood. It just wouldn’t fly.

David Meredith
David Meredith
Aug 15, 2020 10:36 PM
Reply to  kevinpk

Indeed, some extremely interesting points you make. And apparently 80% of populations are asymptomatic so how is it so deadly then? What is it that is making the 20% sick and not the 80% and the children and young people you mention? I think there is actually a new SARs type virus out there and according to Professor Giuseppe Tritto, it is chimera organism which was created Wuhan P4 lab (see link below). I was starting to be skeptical even about the existence of the virus and thinking the whole thing was a hoax. Certainly it has been blown out of all proportion by fear mongering, mainstream media hype and Governments wanting to cash in on the opportunity to reset economic and social order. I would say the severity of the virus is a hoax but its existence is not.
Going back to the the earlier question as to why older people seem to be more susceptible, possibly people who received a flu vaccine in 2019 are those who are being most affected and that is why younger people are not affected because they are much less likely to get a flu shot.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/renowned-european-scientist-covid-19-was-engineered-in-china-lab-effective-vaccine-unlikely

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Aug 15, 2020 11:07 PM
Reply to  David Meredith

Viruses don’t exist.

Arby
Arby
Aug 16, 2020 1:35 AM
Reply to  Zen Priest

The problem is the ‘concept’. They say viruses are invisible monsters are always out to get us. I’ve come around to thinking that that is absolutely not the case. I think it’s more likely that they are something like (or exactly) exosomes. It’s striking how they acknowledge that exosomes exist and they just happen to be identical to viruses. The thing is, exosomes come from us and are (said to be) beneficial! Rockefeller devotees won’t tolerate these ideas but then their paycheques depend on not tolerating these ideas.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Aug 16, 2020 5:27 AM
Reply to  Arby

The most likely explanation was provided by Dr. Ryke Geerd Hamer with his German New Medicine Theory, which you can find online in numerous websites. Basically, Hamer proved that viruses don’t cause disease. Diseases are simply the body’s natural response to sudden and unexpected conflict shocks. The exosome theory can also be true, it would supplement rather than contradict Hamer’s disease model.

Arby
Arby
Aug 16, 2020 12:43 PM
Reply to  Invisible Man

Acknowledged.

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Aug 16, 2020 8:23 AM
Reply to  Arby

From what I have read exosomes are the body’s means of moving dna from cell to cell. So yes it would play a core part in any illness.
Most people think viruses are a living thing. Living on door handles, flying through the air. Lol. The authorities are happy for the population to believe this fear porn. But it is a complete scam.
Our bodies react to toxicity (ie detox) and this is the illness. It is known that hihg frequency radio waves are toxic to the human body, so the fact that there seems to be a high correlation of 5G rollout and covid cases in particular areas should cause 5G suspicion in any sane person.
I have also seen claims that most of the major so called virus pandemics occurred at the same time as large scale high frequency electrical kit was introduced throughout the world (or at least the west which perhaps tellingly seems to get most of the cases).
I’ve seen little mention of Africa. If covid were real wouldnt Africa be devastated by it? Also supports the 5G theory as I doubt anywhere except capital or major African cities have had 5G installed.

Arby
Arby
Aug 16, 2020 12:45 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

Acknowledged.

David Meredith
David Meredith
Aug 16, 2020 12:25 PM
Reply to  Arby

Very good comment. It would be truly amazing for the world if the whole truth about these things were fully known and that those in power would not lie.

Arby
Arby
Aug 16, 2020 12:52 PM
Reply to  David Meredith

Acknowledged. I personally don’t have a desire to know absolutely everything. I just want to enjoy life and be at peace with neighbors. I like learning, mind you. But I don’t have to know absolutely everything. Right now, my learning is somewhat negative. I’m learning what I have to learn to fight the darkness of fake news and propaganda (from the pushers of covid 1984 and their tools). Therefore, my learning is sort of joyless right now. In fact, pretty much all the joy has been sucked out of my life and it’s frightening to observe how so many people – cattle really – are getting into covid 1984. (I biked home this morning and passed a couple of people walking together, with no one around because it was early, wearing masks and face shields. Crazy!) Randolph Bourne was so very, very correct about how too many people behave in wartime. The meld with the war-making State. Their empty lives suddenly have meaning, they become amateur government agents (working alongside professional government agents) and an enemy of normal people who are in the minority. Out of the blue, terror comes to thinking, caring people (at least relatively) everywhere.

I personally believe that this will get worse and then come to a sudden screeching halt. So, It’s bad and good.

Zen Priest
Zen Priest
Aug 16, 2020 1:45 PM
Reply to  Arby

Waking up is akin to withdrawal, or detox. But you have no choice but to plough on through it. You cant go back. You are not going to feel good at times. All I know is that it’s worth it, because once you have truly awakened you will feel much better, regardless of external circumstances. Have faith.

David Meredith
David Meredith
Aug 16, 2020 3:12 PM
Reply to  Arby

I agree on all points, of course those people wearing the masks in the early morning were protecting themselves from that clever virus which can fly around anywhere and generally targets people who don’t wear masks…right! Good, glad we cleared that up.

I’m with you on the preference not to have to know everything and wanting to enjoy life…me too! Unfortunately it is now more necessary than ever to know what is really going on with this whole virus thing so we need to “arm” ourselves with the truth wherever we can find some.

I would much prefer if I didn’t have to go reading up books and research papers on exosomes and viruses in an attempt to undo the catastrophe that those who are supposed to be experts in these areas have helped to create either through their silence or ignorance.

Arby
Arby
Aug 17, 2020 3:06 AM
Reply to  David Meredith

Indeed. Their “silence or ignorance” equals their participation in the problem (as in ‘Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop’) and their ignorance is willful. Caring is knowing is caring. When you care, especially if you have children, you put your head up and look around you. You do that not only in order to learn (if you’re ‘actively’, rather than ‘passively’ learning), but in order to see the dangers around you. When you look, then you see. When you see, then you know. Instead, People have their heads buried in the sand about the dangers out there. They have their heads buried in the fake news and propaganda from Bill and Melinda Gates-funded corporate media. They have allowed themselves to become zombies and they treat you and I like food.

David Meredith
David Meredith
Aug 16, 2020 12:28 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

I’m starting to believe you are right. There is more to learn about the truth.

Ergo
Ergo
Aug 16, 2020 1:59 PM
Reply to  Zen Priest

ZP
When can we get past the virus question?
They don’t exist.
The exosome material should never have been called ‘virus’
There is no Cbs19

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Aug 17, 2020 10:44 AM
Reply to  Ergo

Yes they don’t exist. Crappy genetic material exists, which poisons the body. This is not a ‘virus’. Contagion is a myth (at least in the common understanding of the word).
The medical cartel needs all these myths to exist so they can continue to control us. All physicians are well remunerated drug pushers for the cartel.

Ergo
Ergo
Aug 17, 2020 11:50 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Not sure what you mean by “genetic material exists, which poisons the body”.
From the literature we have arrived at the misconceived virus as the cleansing mechanism of the affected cells following a toxic event, hardly a poison!
https://thebernician.net/the-deception-of-virology-&-vaccines-why-coronavirus-is-not-contagious

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Aug 18, 2020 8:18 AM
Reply to  Ergo

Sorry I meant junk DNA / RNA. And/or toxins in general.
Yes I like the firefighter theory – their presence at a fire doesn’t indicate they started it. I am reading that ‘viruses’ are proteins created by the cell to eliminate the toxins.

Ergo
Ergo
Aug 18, 2020 10:13 AM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Yes of course.
I suppose that toxins do poison the body which causes the intense healing chaos of the flu.
Sorry couldn’t connect the word poison but it is quite apt in retrospect.
It is interesting that the body calls the ‘virus’ into play and very logical too if we respect the wisdom of nature.
Another analogy: blowflies on the rotting carcass are just cleaning up! They didn’t cause it.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Aug 18, 2020 10:57 AM
Reply to  Ergo

Aye. And flies around shit!

aspnaz
aspnaz
Aug 16, 2020 3:52 AM
Reply to  David Meredith

Maybe covid makes you well and it is the combination of flu and covid that makes the others sick? Hence no symptoms. We will never know.

The test is the weapon: the existence of a virus weakens the scam as it opens the door to someone inventing a cure and the scammers losing control of the scam.

Binra
Binra
Aug 15, 2020 11:53 PM
Reply to  kevinpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_HoE-dRv0&t=2758s
This links to Interview of T.C. Fry author of “The Great AIDS Hoax” by Dr. Henry L.N. Anderson.
The world we have lived has been a managed bubble of a racket – and some have been somewhat aware of some aspects of this – and in the process acquired an invested identity set in such terms.

You may think – why look at some old stuff on AIDS – but ‘covid’ is part of a ongoing mind-capture that would as well be called a worldview or identity capture that is winding to its logical conclusion.

I usually write more to invite questioning the identity or belief structure we think and act FROM – but this is the self-same thing as questioning the world we perceive, our felt experience or emotional meaning, and our expression of that in actions.

The mind is deconstructing as a capacity to serve and support life in the larger body. Perhaps as a direct result of refusal to question or release identity in possession and control – and so the demand or dictate to limit and deny life to the controllable and make a virtue of the sacrifice where it cannot be ‘blanked out’.

The Left became the subverted movement for collective groupthink under identity politicking, by which individuality as the freedom to associate in a movement of solidarity is cancelled, erased by the use of cunning stunts.

The Green has been subverted to leverage a biosecurity state of genetic manipulations and human culling via the cultivation and leveraging of human guilt for corporate toxicity.

The Right has been nose ringed by toxic debt framed incentives under regulatory capture into paranoia of existential dread such as to comply with totalitarian and inhuman directives to save their own while abandoning others.

The subversion and capture of the mind by deceits that run invisibly until irrevocably locked in. We do not recognise the extent of our investment until it is revealed as the breakdown of our ‘reality’. But the release from a false investment – no matter how disturbing our transition – opens the capacity to open and align in a new.

Virtues can be masked in because they are true. No one forges a fake 11 dollar bill.
Truth is not IN a world or mind of war and deceit. But when we align in anything true its shines through us without our having any such intent or self-consciousness.

Not as a way to change the world. Save lives or somehow validate or redeem a sense of Self-lack driven to externalise its solutions upon others.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 15, 2020 11:54 PM
Reply to  kevinpk

I can assure you that a large number of viruses infect most people without causing symptoms.

Go and read up on the following:

  1. Epstein-Barr Virus.
  2. Human Papillomaviruses.
  3. Adenoviruses.
  4. Herpesviruses.
  5. Coronaviruses.

It has been known for other 30 years that latency of many viruses after infection is a highly common event: it is the mechanism viruses use to evade mass immune responses and thus allows them to chug along nicely without being munched up.

Virus production is actually what many viruses do when they think it is time to get the hell out of its nice little cellular igloo and find a new host to set up home in.

John Goss
John Goss
Aug 16, 2020 12:17 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

As well as the latency of viruses to re-establish themselves there are sometimes, perhaps more than sometimes, latent effects following infection – like post-herpetic neuralgia, muscle wastage and so on. As you say most people are not adversely affected by viruses.

Carey
Carey
Aug 16, 2020 12:18 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Thank you for that dose of sanity, RJ.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Aug 16, 2020 5:31 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

This is false, across the board, just a bunch of scientists trying to shore up a tottering disease paradigm that would otherwise make no sense. What you said is false because viral theory in general is false, demonstrably so, as Stefan Lanka and Ryke Geerd Hamer both have shown.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Aug 17, 2020 11:16 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

You are speaking as if viruses are alive, sentient and as if they even exist. They don’t. We have diseases which are the body’s reaction to poisons.

Howard
Howard
Aug 16, 2020 12:20 AM
Reply to  kevinpk

When you say people have been brainwashed into believing the Germ Theory of disease, you are, I think, mixing apples and oranges. Brainwashing would be what has brought people to believe vaccines are essential; this because there has always been a fairly strong contrasting view.

Whereas there really has not been much of a contrasting view to the Germ Theory; consequently, people simply have no idea about it. As someone who has flirted with “conspiracy theories” for decades, I take the fact that I had never heard the Germ Theory questioned as prima facie evidence for the rather obscure nature of the notion.

I don’t think, therefore, it is brainwashing, strictly speaking; but only lack of knowledge.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Aug 16, 2020 5:34 AM
Reply to  Howard

I agree Howard, but there actually are strong and fully developed rival theories to Germ Theory, even if few people have heard about them. Just google and read anything you can about the medical theories of Ryke Heerd Hamer (German New Medicine) and Stefan Lanka.

Howard
Howard
Aug 16, 2020 2:50 PM
Reply to  Invisible Man

Thank you; I’ll check these out. In truth, I had not even heard of Beauchamp until visiting Off-Guardian. And since this is one of the few sites giving responsible information on COVID-19, it is ironically because of this “deadliest” pathogen of all time that I’ve encountered what for me is a completely new idea.

Seth Farber
Seth Farber
Sep 1, 2020 12:16 AM
Reply to  Howard

One could never question germ theory and still realize that CDC and FDA were corrupted “captured” institutions. But the radical American left (suddenly not so radical) does NOT realize that. It is looking to these institutions for salvation. Why?

Arby
Arby
Aug 16, 2020 1:32 AM
Reply to  kevinpk

I don’t buy the concept of ‘virus’ anymore and say so all the time. It might not get me far, but I’m principled and I believe in being principled. As for your point about children, they don’t even develop immune systems, apparently, until after about their first year of life. I guess the idea is that their mother’s milk protects them. But what about babies who didn’t breast feed? But I do think that, just as the human race is not evolving, but degenerating (I’m a Christian and not a believer in Darwin’s fantasy), so too we are healthier when young and get less healthy as we age. What mitigates against that, however, is the fact that we aren’t wise when we’re young. And we might have parents who are unwise and feed us garbage. Then (as in my case), when we get older and wiser, we start paying attention to things like diet and exercise.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 16, 2020 8:37 AM
Reply to  kevinpk

Its not only germ theory if repudiated, but this whole event calls into question authoritarian credibility in general, in toto and in specific, across the board, globally (for “starters”).

Given the technological means now of more and more massive mass deception, it seems like many officials are drawn into the tempting too easy option of a complete “theatre state” where everything can be fabricated, simulated, replicated?

If they can just pull covid out of a (virtual) hat, like a stage magician’s rabbit, for whatever purposes, why be troubled by things, trifles like actual physical viruses, et al.? How negligible in importance compared to the realities of their Big Plan. A fake virus, a bogeyman bug will serve the same purpose. Who knew?

John Goss
John Goss
Aug 15, 2020 10:01 PM

The left has been destroyed. Thatcher was largely responsible because when the miners and their industry went so did a large and powerful trade union. Since then the whole lot of “united we stand” union leaders and shop stewards have buckled. Unions have no leverage any more.

I have criticised trade union officials and did so last week on a cycle-ride for Palestinian children. Teachers’ unions have bent over backwards to help the government enforce this nonsense panicdemic. The problem as I see it is that more recent generations have never seen a class-struggle in trying to keep the wolf from the door and a morsel of bread to share. Even I haven’t, but at 75 I am old enough to have heard first hand those who suffered during the depression of the thirties. It is not a pretty picture.

Today everybody is a slave to the internet – we all are. It is a quick way to disseminate information – true or false. Younger generations have known nothing else. What do they care that they have no jobs? If there’s food on the table and games to play on the computer? Where’s the worry?

Because weather-forecasters usually get the weather and sports results right viewers think everything else is true. Questioning is not one of the skills found in doing an internet search. Indeed, doing an internet search makes it almost impossible to find the truth. We are doomed!

Frank Speaker
Frank Speaker
Aug 15, 2020 10:25 PM
Reply to  John Goss

I can’t disagree with you on these points 👍🏻

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Aug 15, 2020 10:31 PM
Reply to  John Goss

We are doomed? That’s very dramatic.
Nevertheless that’s true enough. It’s a truism in fact.
But there are just too many threats with bad enough odds that we are in deep shit. It could happen any day for several reasons. Yes.
Doom gloom we are all gonna die.
Probably.
So man up. Maybe die with whatever you define as a little dignity.
We die on our feet.
It’s the only rational choice.
The ultimate answers are definitely nihilistic, whatever they are.
It doesn’t matter.
We mold our own reality.
We mold our own self.
So why not?

John Goss
John Goss
Aug 16, 2020 12:08 AM

While I suspect we might be doomed, David, I feel we must fight to the end. I’ve just read Kit Knightley’s “The New Normal: . . .” which has done nothing to raise my hopes of an escape route.

John Goss
John Goss
Aug 16, 2020 10:20 AM
Reply to  John Goss

And I’ve even just read Kit Knightly’s “The New Normal: . . .”

Carey
Carey
Aug 16, 2020 12:16 AM

> We mold our own reality.

oh really

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Aug 15, 2020 11:56 PM
Reply to  John Goss

Well, you could say that the internet should be only for experienced adults? You know, a marvellous library for those with enough experience and discernment to distinguish between fact and fiction.

It is not the way to start learning about a new subject for the young, however.

John Goss
John Goss
Aug 16, 2020 10:24 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Rhys, I look on internet search engines in the same way as insurance and other service providers. If you’re not happy with one you can always change to another. Though I am not blind to the fact that most of them piggy-back on Google.

Samuel
Samuel
Aug 15, 2020 9:07 PM

I share your feelings when you say:
“I’ve more than once had to look at the entire matter again from the start to check, ‘yes Darren, you’re not mad. It really has happened this way.”
As a comunist and infectologist, both my political and professional colleagues make me check my sanity all the time. For not only the left, but the specialists in my field have completely fallen for the official propaganda. It is just bizarre.

alex posoukh
alex posoukh
Aug 15, 2020 8:57 PM

The left are just as abysmal as the regular run of the mill liberals. They are scared to pronounce anything contrarian as soon as the word “science” is invoked. https://www.amazon.com/COVID-2020-World-Petri-DIsh-ebook/dp/B08FGB2W19/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1F8A45IYIII8N&dchild=1&keywords=covid+2020&qid=1597521192&sprefix=covid+2020%2Caps%2C231&sr=8-4

Ted
Ted
Aug 15, 2020 8:32 PM

What left? I do not see a viable “left” anywhere in the world at the moment. What this article seems to refer to are members of the professional content producing class who have positioned themselves as being against banks and a few poster girl corporations like Monsanto (mainly) and the machinations of the Anglo-American foreign policy establishment (and here again, only when it is a convenient means to generate clicks for their online content).

As Maxwell notes below, the left I would recognize begins with political-economy and class as the main lens for both analysis and politics. That the professional culture content producers benefit handsomely from lockdown and its aftermath (same pay, less work) might go a long way to explain the cheerleading of the Pandemic(TM). As I have read them over the years, these “progressive” or “left” content producers have never given a moment to the slow grind of the working classes in the neoliberal era (well, to be fair, Pilger did notice that things weren’t so great for the service workers and other working class folks during the Brexit and Trump hullabaloo). But, for most of the gadflies who make the list in this article (Graeber, Chomsky, etc.), they have been making out like bandits in the neoliberal era, so why bother the with deplorable losers who don’t read their columns anyway.

Ted
Ted
Aug 15, 2020 9:18 PM
Reply to  Ted

Let me follow up with a “for example.” I live in California, which hosts one of the most expansive testing regimes in the world. But, who gets tested? As of today, nearly 60% of positive tests are from Latinos (see https://update.covid19.ca.gov/), way higher than for other groups. Why? Sure, this may reflect the greater crowding in poor neighborhoods, or that Latino service workers must suffer the indignity of working in close proximity to other human beings, but what about the likelihood that they are much more likely to be forced into the state’s medico-surveilance machine as a condition of their employment? (college professors are not, as an example) Worse still, service workers often must have two negative tests before they can return to work. An analysis focused on class is way more productive of revealing the fact that the brutality of the surveillance state and class relations falls much more heavily on service workers, which are overwhelmingly Latino in California, than more well-heeled professional classes. But what do the “lefties” scream for as a condition of “feeling safe” — Moar Testing! (for thee not for me, however)

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 15, 2020 10:01 PM
Reply to  Ted

Sounds like a real pseudo-medico political scam racket the Brown-Pelosi-Newsom-Getty crime family dynasty have going there.

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Aug 15, 2020 10:21 PM
Reply to  Ted

I disagree in the following manner. Off the internet you find a huge number of largely silent Christians. Largely the “real” ones.
The left couldn’t be more than 15% but it does exist. Polling supports this for what it is worth.
However they generally are apolitical and largely irrelevant.
I am not a Sanders fan but he triggered a shift politics that is gaining momentum.
The (alledged) imminent US economic collapse will be explosive. Just watch when the evictions happen.
Boom!
(I hate that irritating expression so much!)

Grafter
Grafter
Aug 15, 2020 8:29 PM

A new film just released by Netflix. It’s called ONLY..

“A couple must endure a self imposed quarantine and elude authorities after a mysterious virus proves lethal to the world’s female population.”

Ends with a sad song starting with…… ” There’s nowhere to go…”

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 15, 2020 11:08 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Another Hollywood puking crap infiltrating the world of the arts… (key word here is infiltrating)

Theobalt
Theobalt
Aug 15, 2020 11:10 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Bad white man not wearing a mask is killing women… the trilogy will also include one that kills homosexuals and another one black people…

bob
bob
Aug 15, 2020 8:18 PM

Let me tell you a story. It’s about six passenger flights from Wuhan that led to an unprecedented global disaster.

These six flights help to explain why the entire world was gripped by fear, with consequences that we’ll be living with for many years to come.

https://twitter.com/GrahamNeary/status/1294645063985836032

Objective
Objective
Aug 15, 2020 8:18 PM

A little off topic but relevant none the less.

Found this on swprs latest update, On the effectiveness of masks. Anyone know anything about #Masks4All the people responsible (their claim) why we are all being forced to wear face nappies.
Interestingly swprs write that the who changed their face mask advice entirely on political lobbying from the likes of aforementioned criminals.

Masks4all is what we need an exposé on!

jaz h
jaz h
Aug 18, 2020 10:16 AM
Reply to  Objective

that seems like a satirical site!

Arby
Arby
Aug 15, 2020 8:12 PM

“it’s the radical left that should be spearheading the criticism” Just to be clear, a ‘radical Left’ that is not spearheading the criticism of the hoax and the sounding of the alarm is not a real ‘radical Left’.