Coronavirus Fact-Check #8: “New daily cases” and the second wave
The media are renewing panic thanks to a “second wave”, but are we really seeing one? And what does “daily cases” actually mean?
All the media have banners and counters and big red numbers of the front page. They proclaim the “new daily cases”.
For example, today, it was reported that Spain has 22,000 new cases, Italy has 37,000, the UK 24,000 and the US 116,000. They are ubiquitously called “new daily cases”.
It wasn’t until I was working on my rebuttal of Moon of Alabama that I realised so many people take this statement literally. They shouldn’t, it is incorrect in almost every respect. To be clear here – “new daily cases” are probably not new, they certainly didn’t all happen in one day and they definitely aren’t “cases”.
Let’s start with the word “new” – They are almost certainly not “new cases”. Today isn’t the day they got infected, today is the day their test results came back. The may have been infected a week ago, or a month, or 6 months.(Or, indeed, never).
Just because Person A got tested on Monday, and Person B on a Tuesday does not mean B is a newer case than A.
We don’t have any idea if more people are getting infected, we only know we are testing more. Charting them as “new” means you can make the scary red line go up, but that is mathematically incorrect, and intellectually dishonest.
Secondly, the vast majority of “cases” reported are not actually “cases”.
Classically speaking, a “case” of a disease is someone who displays symptoms. There is a huge difference between being infected, and being a “case”. That’s why infection fatality rate (IFR) and case fatality rate (CFR) are two different numbers.
However for COVID19 they have abandoned this distinction, referring to every single positive test as a “case”, despite the fact the vast majority never exhibit any symptoms.
Summary
The “new daily cases” are none of the above. The “second wave” is likely the result of increased testing. The more people you test, the more “infections” you will find, (especially when your test has a known risk of false positives).
If you increase the number of tests you run, you will increase the number of infections you find. That is not a disease spreading.
In the spring the UK was testing 10,000s of people per day. As of last week, they claim to be testing half a million. From estimated false positive rates alone, that’s between 4000 and 20,000 “new cases” per day.
An analogy:
If you move a piece of furniture in your living room and find a spider underneath it on Saturday, and then the next day you move twenty items of furniture, and find 10 spiders it would be absolutely crazy to say there was 900% daily increase in spiders or that spiders are “increasing exponentially”.
Those spiders were probably there yesterday. You just weren’t looking for them.
…and if you hadn’t gone out of your way to find them, would you ever have known they were even there?
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100 cases of nu variant and the stock market panics- swell- the fear mongering just keeps right on rolling along
How to make variants from thin air, AKA “Mutations by Fiat” “Research” paper: emergence in late 2020 of multiple lineages of SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein variants affecting amino acid position 677 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.12.21251658v1.full.pdf From page 9: 1. Samples of RNA were obtained from specimens determined to be positive by FDA approved testing (the PCR that maps back to the genome from the never-isolated one-case from Wuhan that was “genome-sequenced” from a library data base on a computer, and was then used in the PCR and Vaccine templates). 2. The “Isolated RNA” here means the TOTAL of RNA is removed from the specimen (if you believe there even was RNA), but it could be an RNA mixture from various sources because the initial clinical specimen is not isolated (i.e., by density gradient). 3. Primers are mapped to a library by our friends at “Ilumina”- the same company & scheme as the metagenomic in-silico… Read more »
When the testing first began they called them ‘positive tests. Later, in order to hype up the dramatic effect, they called them ‘cases’ and now they call them ‘infections. No doubt soon they will up the ante and called them ‘contagions’ As I’m sure all you here know, the PCR test is bogus and is not, and cannot, test for the virus which has never actually been isolated or seen. The test as it is, should never be amplified above 30 times, yet we do to 45 times and in some countries, up to 50 times. When we have all been assaulted with the vaccine, they will reduce the amplification down to about 20 times and “hey presto” The positive tests will disappear and the criminals in the UK government will claim they have saved us all from the virus.
A case is when person has symptoms
the test was invented 40 years ago to detect HIV and clearing its picking up any virus not just COVID – this should be considered
also people who test positive that want to return to work must get two negative tests
this registers as three tests inflating the number of people being tested.
the numbers are a mess!
Some good points made but also some farcical assertions. Yes, well done, increased testing will initially give the appearance of more cases. However this does not invalidate the evidence of its having spread merely makes the rate at which it is doing so unknowable. To use your analogy, Yes you have now found 10 spiders where you thought there was one. When those spiders turned up is really immaterial as the only inevitability is that unless you do something to stop them, they are all going to have an awful lot of offspring.
The idiot author of this article, parroting Trump, says “the more testing you do, the more positives you find”. Meanwhile today prisoners load bodies into mobile morgues in El Paso, Texas as COVID-19 infections skyrocket-
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/16/covi-n16.html
Welcome to Off-Guardian, where denial and stupidity predominate, and Covid-19 is just a political conspiracy to take away your rights! 😮 😀 😀 Fucking idiots.
Well, irrelevant news-gossip and insults certainly make a relevant & powerful contribution. Why can’t propaganda worshippers ever come up with anything better?
Hey asswipe did you bother to actually read the WSWS.org article? To wit-
“El Paso, Texas, which is still being slammed by a flood of COVID-19 cases, pushing its hospital systems to overcapacity, is now being strained by the gruesome overflow of bodies awaiting autopsy. According to Channel 9 KTSM, a local affiliate of NBC, El Paso County Jail inmates are being used to assist in loading bodies into the 10 mobile overflow morgues that stand outside the medical examiner’s office.”
While you sit on your smug, complacent “Covid doesn’t exist” ass, they are resorting to prison labor in El Paso TX to help deal with the overflow of dead bodies from Covid-19. You should go and volunteer help dragging the body bags into the trucks instead of jacking off at your PC.
Just more FAKE NEWS.
EMPTY COFFINS – EMPTY HOSPITAL – Brazilian MPs Expose Biggest Covid-19 Hoax Known To Date
https://fort-russ.com/2020/06/empty-coffins-empty-hospital-brazilian-mps-expose-biggest-covid-19-hoax-known-to-date/
That’s what happens when you prefer anecdotal propaganda than hard science.
So is it also ‘fake news’ as you say when I know people who have lost their mom? Grandmother? Aunt to Covid? I personally know these people. Just last week a friend told me about his wife’s mom dying from Covid. It went very fast.5 days and she was gone.
…just more ‘fake news’ right Zorro?
What you know is that someone died and had ‘covid’ on their death certificate. Sure, we all know that happens. The point is the diagnoses are bogus since the covid tests are not fit for the purpose of diagnosing disease. You could use a PCR test to ‘find’ any virus in a dying person.
Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Actually claiming that the family members of people I mentioned who died from Covid-19 died from something else!? Two of theses people I know are nurses at a hospital, healthcare professionals who got Covid-19. I trust their opinion and personal experiences in hospital with Covid-19 far, far more than you–an armchair political quack with a fringe blog acting as if you know anything compared to them about Covid-19 testing, symptoms, and morbidity. I personally watched a student of mine, a nurse, go through an entire bout of Covid-19. It is not some conspiracy theory as you ridiculously claim. You are beyond reasoning with, lost in your complacent delusions and conspiracy theories about this deadly pandemic.
Hey Deschutes. How does it feel to reread your comment?
Let me show you data to compare with the Mexican city I live in.
-Inhabitants El Paso 679K, Toluca (Mex) 873 K
-Cases after a madness of 16 months ElPaso 137K, Tol 17K
-Lamentable deceased ElPaso 2K, Tol 2K
Normally a city like Toluca must be having.
And I do not mean that this disease does not exist, but that the data does not fit much with the theory: detecting more cases, reporting more deaths and hopelessness did not lessen the disaster. There was never talk of overcrowded cemeteries here, despite the fact that fear flowed as much as there.
This ‘cases’ nonsense, indeed all COVID-19 nonsense, including the government’s vaccination program, has just been given a body blow: The US FDA has published its stand on vaccines:
‘There Are No Vaccines for COVID-19, Yet
The FDA is working with medical product developers to rapidly advance the development and availability of vaccines and more treatments for COVID-19. So far, the FDA has approved only one treatment for COVID-19.
Although there are investigational COVID-19 vaccines and treatments being studied in clinical trials, these products are in the early stages of development. They haven’t yet been fully tested for safety or effectiveness, or received FDA approval.’
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/beware-fraudulent-coronavirus-tests-vaccines-and-treatments
2 new cases yesterday: a nice black one for my laptop and a small one for my belt that holds my cel phone and wallet. when i walked to the cafe, i saw a friend and waved at her…. then when i left, I SAW HER AGAIN. i gave her a second wave!
https://youtu.be/0-3ACWenNIQ
German court overrides general obligation to wear masks
German:Ein uneinheitliches Kurs bei den Corona-Maßnahmen zeichnet sich weiter ab. Das Verwaltungsgericht Düsseldorf hatte dem Eilantrag eines Bürgers recht gegeben und am Montag entschieden, dass die neue generelle Maskenpflicht in Düsseldorf rechtswidrig sei. Der Beschluss gilt laut Gericht nur für den Bürger – alle anderen müssten demnach weiter Maske tragen. Deutschland bleibt innerhalb der Coronakrise weiter mehr denn je gespalten.
https://www.theeuropean.de/martin-walzer/gericht-kippt-allgemeine-maskenpflicht-in-duesseldorf/ Archived: https://archive.vn/csOLZ
English: (Autotranslation):
A mixed picture continues to emerge for corona measures. The Administrative Court of Düsseldorf had upheld the urgent application of a citizen and decided on Monday that the new general mask requirement in Düsseldorf was illegal. According to the court, the decision only applies to the citizen – all others must therefore continue to wear masks. Germany remains more divided than ever within the Corona crisis.
What does “daily cases” actually mean?And what does „coronavirus masks“ actually mean?
Guyes,I think some of us get deluded into thinking to much about the the voodoo daily cases and the malicious & sadistic psychology behind the mandatory wearing of coronavirus masks.
As wearing a textil mask is not a rational „symbol of saving lives“-) it´s first and foremost a statement of consent!
Edward Bernays, Freud’s nephew, was called The Father of Spin. He described the masses as irrational and subject to herd instinct—and – how skilled practitioners could use crowd psychology and psychoanalysis to control them in desirable ways.He promoted female smoking by branding cigarettes as feminist “Torches of Freedom”
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
https://allthatsinteresting.com/scolds-bridle
-input to long-
This article by Dr Kendrick is really helpful in understanding the sleight of hand being played with “case” numbers. https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/09/04/covid-why-terminology-really-matters/?fbclid=IwAR2wHQrauRz3xOEusLy4mafdCpI8Aarc2fezIwD4WfRvuxvDYi8y-lWF1bE
We know the ‘virus’ has not been isolated. The WHO lied when they said they had isolated and purified Sars Cov 2. Why has no one challenged them? Why are some countries now claiming viruses don’t need to be isolated? There have been several reports from countries claiming to have isolated this virus. This was fake news. Is viral culturing even being done and if so how can they determine its the Sars Cov 2 virus? Surely the emphasis should be on actually finding this virus. The governments are rushing to find a quick diagnostic test. This is just crazy. After finding this virus they would need to develop an accurate test. PCR must be disregarded as it’s not a diagnostic test. No one seems interested in doing any of this. The question even the most pro lockdown crowd must ask is why? You can pump out as many cases… Read more »
Those would seem to form a list of the main science questions that have been dangling in the air for months, and almost no traction anywhere in getting answers. Mass hypnosis? That seems more evident than any virus.
From what I have seen the WHO are an extemely untrustworthy source. For what reason would they have any credibility or importance? Just because they put the words health and world in their name?
They have no credibility at all. They have no interest in world health.
They are pimps for the pharmaceutical industry.
The WHO have deliberately mislead and terrorised the world and caused unimaginable pain and suffering.
It’s just lie after lie and one of the most sickening things is that countries are donating tens of millions to them every year.
The WHO (?) like the IMF and the World Bank is a tentacle of the U.N. The latter two are HQed in Washington D.C.
All 3 are “known associates” of that chief Global Crime Centre.
All of them have no doubt done some good on occasion, or at least the appearance of some apparent good, but it looks more and more with each passing year like that’s some kind of pretext.
Honest question though: has any virus been isolated and purified, ever?
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Yes but tagged onto this is the lie of the asymptomatic infections. All the PCR tests with the resulting false positives are also being used as justification for the lockdowns because although these ‘cases’ are not actual (in most cases, no pun) infections, the lie then extends that these people are unknown spreaders.
I don’t believe there is any evidence I have seen that suggests there is such a thing as an asymptomatic infection spread. So the reality is that we are effectively locked down as a result of the increase in testing and the false positive nature of the PCR test.
I believe that was always the plan though. This has now provided the govt with opportunity to completely destroy society before we ‘build back better’.
There is no evidence of “covid transmission”. This is merely paranoid delusions of the traumatised allopathic medical doctors who are heavily indoctrinated into this belief system and suffer from ptsd after years of being assaulted with ‘flu vaccines’ and deceptive training from satanic abusers that leave them gaslit and unprepared to help their patients in a state of panic and confusion.
There are very few false positives .Which lab did you work in?https://virologydownunder.com/and-another-thing-on-false-positives/
How does one prove a positive PCR test result is true or false?
There was a massive demonstration in Leipzig yesterday. The footage shows they stayed on into the evening despite being asked to leave. No masks were being warn and there was a party atmosphere, early signs of jubilation and victory over the covid death cult. “It is like new years eve” the reporter states.
Great to see.
Jodie, It blew me away, too.
Just to put yesterday’s anti-Corona rally in Leipzig into some perspective,
for MSM will tell you it was some 100 Conspiracy theorists, as always.
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Share and Enjoy!
RA Markus Haintz (Querdenken-731 Ulm), and Heiko Schöning (MD, Ärzte für Aufkärung).
https://twitter.com/acu2020org/status/1325067322990743553
Well that’s a good many thousand people they aren’t going to force vaccines upon so easily.
I never thought of living in Leipzig until now…
Presumably they’re all dying in hospital by now?
And as time goes by, more and more people get tested – show positive – become cases – go into hospital for any reason – we will find that at some point in the not too distant future every hospital bed is occupied by a COVID patient, and every death a COVID death.
Then for a vast chunk of the general public that mathematical reality will vindicate their fear and their leaders dire warnings.
Where I live, in their desperation to evade a loss of power in Parliament, the authorities have now replaced “new cases” with an unexplained “14-day total”.
Quite so.
Someone infected but asymptomatic, is not a case.
But ‘they’ need to lock people up, and deny them vitamin D, and social contact in the pub.
Hell people might start discussing how this makes no sense…
Here in Thailand, and other places, like HK, restrictions and arrests under covid are used to crush political dissent
Pity Orwell is not here to see it!
Where I live, they are so desperate to retain power and thwart elections that they tried to declare a state of emergency. After that failed, they have resorted to announcing a “14-day total” in lieu of daily “new cases”. They even withhold current figures from the leaders of provincial governents, and impose restrictions without consulting them.
Máscara de flandres
Translation:
“A máscara de flandres was a mask that was used as torture against slaves in colonial Brazil. It was forced on slaves as punishment to keep them from eating, drinking and eating soil.-”
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A1scara_de_flandres
None of the efforts to seek truth about the virus will matter unless/until TPTB start listening to them. They don’t really care about the truth; all they care about is control.
Latest podcast by Ivor Cummins posted yesterday is a real blockbuster – Ivor at his finest in an intelligent, well-structured, comprehensive and measured discussion with a South African professional (Nick?, I’m not sure of his professional discipline) pretty well summing up the whole saga to date. Essential viewing and good material to share as widely as possible. They don’t pull their punches about their views on the scientists leading the clarion to maintain lockdowns.
For info
‘Add on’ to my post above: Nick Hudson (actuary and philosopher)
I watched this video this morning and generally agree.
But FWIW, I was disappointed and even a bit outraged when Cummins and Hudson blithely blew off the “anti-vaxxer” perspective in passing. Cummins basically said that he “stays away” the vaccination controversy because it’s so crazy. Then he and Hudson both agreed that they’re OK with vaccinations and don’t have any qualms about getting vaccinations when necessary. Ouch!
I’m paraphrasing, but that was the gist of the exchange. They obviously wanted to get back to the other issues they were discussing.
Still, this grated upon me. It’s not much different from someone saying, “Oh, I stay away from the mask/lockdown controversy because it’s just too crazy. I just wear the mask when I have to– it’s no big deal!”
It’s not enough to make me condemn or dismiss them– or emphatically declaim that they are obviously Controlled Opposition 😉 — but it bothered me.
Thanks, Ort. The way I see it they probably feel under some pressure not to be seen to condemn vaccines per se in order to give their other views more credibility – they don’t want to risk their valid analyses to be automatically discredited, as we have seen happen to so many people, by the tag of ‘anti-vaxxer’. It may also be that they genuinely haven’t done the research required to publicly debate the vaccine issue with confidence. By focusing on proving the invalidity of the statistics first and foremost (which, to be fair, is Ivor Cummins forte), and including references to the inappropriateness of the PCR test, they shouldn’t need to delve into the subject of vaccines in the context of their work; they can leave that to other better qualified experts. I, personally, don’t feel any uneasiness about their position on this.
I think we need only apply the acid-test and ‘follow the money’, if any of these people are funded by Bill and Melinda, then we should worry.
Another excellent piece by The Last American Vagabond: >
“The leaders of two controversial pandemic simulations that took place just months before the Coronavirus crisis – Event 201 and Crimson Contagion – share a common history, the 2001 bio warfare simulation Dark Winter. Dark Winter not only predicted the 2001 anthrax attacks, but some of its participants had clear foreknowledge of those attacks.”
This event has been is been well researched and documented. The participants are known persons. No criminal charges have been filed…
All Roads Lead To Dark Winter
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/all-roads-lead-dark-winter/
isrhell intelligence was told by usa defense and intelligence in November (2019) of possible pandemic or bio weapon attack happening
A MULTI-TASKING MARVEL Unfortunately, my apprehension about the aftermath of the election results is already coming true. Hare brained Biden, announced his first priority is to establish a “coronavirus task force.” Exactly what would that entail–mandatory mask wearing, lockdowns, contact tracing, questionable vaccines, etc.. In other words, “the idiot” will be doubling down on the COVID official narrative enforcing the most illogical detrimental draconian edicts. Can someone explain why COVID cases are rising, but the flu has miraculously disappeared. Was there a battle between COVID and the Flu resulting in COVID-19 emerging as the victor. Similarly, what do all the statistics really represent. How many “cases” are asymptomatic or how many cases are actually the flu or a cold. How many deaths were not caused from COVID, but were labeled as such because it was convenient or financially lucrative. If the coronavirus is as deadly as reported it would’ve totally wiped out every retirement community in… Read more »
Not to mention cracking down on “disinformation.”
Such as?
They mean anything which questions the official narrative regarding the virus, e.g. IFR, masks, lockdowns,…
Yes, all opposing views will be mocked and censored, especially when big pharma starts rolling out the questionable unproperly tested toxic vaccine.
AstraZeneca has already started vaccine production in Australia.
https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2020/11/07/state-bar-passes-mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-recommendation/
Saw that. Alarming.
Very alarming……
Over a period of 17 years a vaccine was never developed for severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars) or Middle East respiratory syndrome (Mers) which occurred 7 years later. So how is it possible a coronavirus vaccine has been developed so quickly despite dozens of attempts in the past to develop a vaccine.
In addition, 450 people came down with Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare neurological disorder, after getting the 1976 mandatory flu shot. On its website, the CDC notes that people who got the vaccination did have an increased risk of “approximately one additional case of GBS for every 100,000 people who got the swine flu vaccine.
Didn’t some COVID test recipients develop a neurological disorder?
They sure did.
And i think you meant to have a ? at the end of your first paragraph. Answer: highly unlikely.
So what are they actually injecting into recipients a glorified flu vaccine or something much more deleterious?
Can we really know?
So like schmucks populations will allow big pharma to play Russian roulette administering a vaccine which might not even be effective, especially since most flu-like viruses mutate and never work.
Big Pharma has admitted the vaccine won’t stop people from catching the virus, but only make cases milder. And yes, once the virus mutates, the vaccine is useless. But that means a new vaccine, more money for Big Pharma,…
As long as this vaccine scam is not mandatory……..
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Well, we’ll see how long that lasts.
comment about ? completely unnecessary.
As of right now, there are no “election results”. — From Zero Hedge: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-edges-closer-victory-leads-3-states-leads-nearly-30k-pa The mainstream media has launched a coordinated effort to proclaim Joe Biden President-Elect. President Trump and his campaign team have reminded Americans that “legal votes decide who is president, not the news media.” As Constitutional lawyer, Jenna Ellis explains: “Joe Biden is not the president-elect just because media declares him so.” Media coordinated efforts are attempting to simply declare Joe Biden the president and ignore the rule of law. There is no official winner until every legal vote is counted accurately, the states certify results, and all legal challenges are resolved. As a reminder, here are the official dates that matter (as opposed to what CNN et al. think). December 8: States are expected to resolve controversies at least six days before the meeting of electors. December 14: Electors meet in respective states to certify their… Read more »
The security state puts you in and the security state removes you.
All elections are rigged.
https://youtu.be/Ovd8bwM8_Xc
People don’t wanna hear this, no matter how true it may be.
It is good to ‘catch the flu’. It is a necessary detox, “a call to get back in alignment with our path.. we are upgrading our system to be able to hold higher vibrationary frequencies”.
And still the Left see it as a prelude to the revolution. Well it’s certainly a prelude to a revolution but certainly not the one they envisage. Assuming of course that they envisage anything from the heights of their impregnable fortress of condescension.
In fact if we exclude the stolen presidential election, the results indicate most states reject phony Dem politicians.
Interesting how in the same sentence some mainstream media starts with coronavirus and ends the sentence with covid or covid 19. Why is that? Anyway, great news that a vaccine has been sorted but is it a cure for the common cold (coronavirus) or if its for covid they have a cure for nothing as covid does not exist!!!! Go figure but I guess the sheeple will be begging for it just like the annual flu jab. So how can they have a flu jab ready each year because they say, flu mutates, how do they know to have it ready in time? We were told a coronavirus, sorry covid jab would be unlikely for at least 2 years but here we are less than 9 months later its good to go! Also, can anyone tell me why when someone doing the virus testing tests someone positive they do not… Read more »
The entire narrative is laced with illogic. In the US nurses who test positive, but are asymptomatic can go to work. Millions of cases, but how many are actually ill. What percentage of the cases are asymptomatic.
The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention may stop tracking the spread of flu. So in effect, every cold and respiratory illness is diagnosed as COVID. As mentioned in previous articles COVID is not about a virus it’s about a global “reset.”
From point of view of epidemiological science there was no new deadly pandemic as there was little to no excess mortality for entire 2019/2020 epidemiological season starting from October 1, 2019, ending on September 30, 2020 while over 350-500 millions were infected with flu worldwide this past season. The real tragedy is that Thousands people are dying prematurely because a label COVID was put on them on a whim of flawed meaningless PCR test and hence proper medical treatments for their underlying diseases or conditions were denied while pushing on them deadly COVID protocols and dangerous untested experimental drug regimes. While vast majority of dead were elderly and/or with several comorbidities at last stages of their lives hastening their deaths under COVID sham organized malpractice amounts to mass murder. Thanks To OFFG for debunking lies about growing new COVID pseudo “cases” that do not exist but the same sham is… Read more »
This is so disturbing, in a very disturbing world. I want to swear. But it won’t help.
In my article on vaccine testing one of the things I noticed on the Synexus flyer was the website:
https://www.synexusclinic.co.uk/RAF
It makes you think the Royal Air Force is conducting the trials. But when you click on it you can see it stands for refer a friend,
Naval mines – the model for all the ‘covid’ images we are seeing everywhere. If this virus really exists, why don’t we ever see images of the real thing?
https://dm0qx8t0i9gc9.cloudfront.net/watermarks/video/UD7CEz6/artist-rendering-sea-mines-weapon-deadly_qjltzdly___eb3854f84e9f702e5c0d79eb73dad968__P360.mp4
Knock yourself out.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-73162-5
Nice try but there’s no evidence that these images show a new virus called Sars Cov 2.
They may indeed be virus particles but that doesn’t make them a new virus.
SARS-CoV-2 isolate (HIAE-02: SARS-CoV-2/SP02/human/2020/BRA (GenBank accession number MT126808.1)was used in this work. The virus was grown in Vero cells (Monkey African Green kidney cell line – ATCC CCL-81) in the Laboratory of Molecular Virology, at Federal University of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Vero cells were maintained in DMEM supplemented with 5% fetal bovine serum (FBS; GIBCO) at 37 °C and 5% CO2. All work involving infectious SARS-CoV2 was performed in a biosafety level (BSL)-3 containment laboratory.
So what “human” was this isolated from? Did this isolate come from a dead victim? If so, where? Why are generic isolates used when there are so many “dead victims” to choose from?
The photos reveal nothing discerning as to coronavirus structure, even the “appendages”.
Rhinovirus, under certain preps will look similar.
We are going round in circles here. Stuff is being repeated over and over again, but next to nothing is being put forward wrt strategies that can help deal with the real problems that we are currently having to endure. No matter what concocted “wave” comes along the problems we will have to face will not go away. Unfortunately, I was one of the first to ask for scientific proof for any pathogenic virus as far back as 2009 but none was ever forthcoming from the scientific establishment. So it’s all old hat 🎩.
Down voter please state your case if you can come up with something positive that can help this dire situation we are now in.
Like our Magic Virus, I think we may have us a Magic Voter, as I many times get one down votes but rarely two. As is the “case” with many who post here.
I agree John the more serious comments do not appear to be taken seriously and either get no positive votes or they are down voted with no feedback there are of course some exceptions
just 2 weeks to flatten neil ferguson imperial and the curve
2 weeks that is all come on people
get with the programme
just 2 more weeks
just 2 more weeks
2 flatten the curve
ok sorry just found out just 4 more weeks
4 more weeks
to get more 5g phased array microwave panels up
during lock down
come on people
protect the nhs
until march april time at least may
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Boris Reitschuster, a German-Russian journalist who reported on today’s big Leipzig anti-Corona demonstration for six hours was apparently beaten over the head with a 1,5 litre water bottle thrown from a person from a crowd of people dressed in black. According to Reitschuster it could have been either Antifa (black-block) or more likely agents provocateurs he seems to be familiar with from his Moscow „times“. Later on, as is seen on his livestream, he was confronted by riot police and harshy told to wear a mask, he is exempt from wearing one, in order to keep on reporting. With a bandana pulled over his nose he was allowed to interview people who had gathered in the streets. German speaking people from all over Europe who seemed lost in translation, with many different dialects from border countries, but otherwide very happy to be together and in good spirits. Young and old… Read more »
The ‘facts’ so far : Fact 1 : A global pandemic was imagined as long ago as 2010 when a group of the most high profile billionaires gathered at the behest of the world’s most high profile philanthropist, Bill Gates. Fact2 : The agreed upon ‘scenarios’ at that meeting involved a global shutdown of the world’s economy; a global, self isolation programme, and social distancing when outside; everyone to wear masks. Fact 3 : It was agreed that utilising the MSM to exaggerate the dangers would help to maintain a collective and high level of fear, thus guaranteeing more obedience from the people( they call it ‘more adherence’). Fact4 : It was agreed that anyone questioning an official narrative that provided no proof to support it was to be punished via courts or silenced publicly and ostracised not only by peers but by the public ( who were ‘frightened’). Fact 5 : It… Read more »
I hope I’m not repeating this post but my first attempt failed.
I’ve heard a lot about the connection between Bill Gates and vaccination programs….I wish someone could explain what this is all about….And if the connection is devious, what does he have to gain from it?…Surely if it’s about money, he certainly has enough.
Have you heard that ”much wants more” …
He is first and foremost a eugenicist. He is third generation eugenicist. His foundation was set up and is steered by his Father Bill Gates sr.
Their real passion and aim is population control ( controlling us..and psycho pharmaceutical methods are the only way with a population as big as 7 billion), is other passion is population control based on class.
Eugenics was exposed as BS. Since around 1970 they have tried to rebrand it as a Science and use the growing population and shrining resources of the planet as justification to ‘phase out’ 80% plus of the population..
That’s a nutshell version..browse the sight over the last few months and you’ll have a bigger picture..
I did browse a bit.,for sure not enough….But I found the info rather complicated….The people who hate Gates, father and son, seem also to be part of the anti-abortion crowd, which I’m totally pro….Further, I think fighting over-population is a good thing but not if it aims at specific ethnic groups….Finally, I still don’t understand what all this has to do with getting vaccinated.
I can’t teach you how to learn. I can’t make what you find ‘complicated’ otherwise. I can’t advise you how to study and think critically. I can’t make you want all of this badly enough to try and remedy them yourself.
Surely, you can’t….We can’t all be knowledgeable about everything….Here, you are the expert here, not me….So I hoped you’d pass on your knowledge….You (and others) make such a big deal out of this Gates/Vaccination connection yet seem unwilling or unable to explain what it’s all about….So let’s just forget about this conversation.
I told you. Browse the site. Just go back to about May. My ‘expertise’ as you call it is on enough threads. I pass on what I learn, not what i profess as knowledge. But i don’t do the heavy lifting for others. If you want to know about it- it’s there waiting. All you need to take are your eyes and a touch of patience. An open mind is optional but highly recommended.
I understand what you’re asking and, rather than write a long essay to post in this comments section, I reccommend a good place for you to start would be to watch “The Corbett Report – Who is Bill Gates” … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLXn45rrhgE If you’re starting with the premise that vaccines work and are a good thing (which is a position MOST people start from) you’ll probably find it quite disturbing and challenging to discover that this is not the case. Robert F Kennedy and Dr Vernon Colman may be good sources to start with. Beware that Google et al are doing their best to discredit both of these, and many other individuals. Good luck and keep an open mind.
Go check out “Event201”, and for further shits ‘n’ giggles, “The Great Reset”.
I’m a radical feminist. I’m 100% pro-choice.
But you don’t build a mass movement to fight the ruling class only with people who agree with you. This is class war and we can only win it if we don’t forget this basic truth.
More important than being left or right is to investigate whether a certain group or movement has corporate ties, and who finances them.
There’s scores of pieces about Gates’ rather evident role in the Covid hoax, from March to May, especially, at OffGuardian. Or simply search through online for Gates and OffGuardian and you will come upon an embarrassment of riches about the connections.
Also these comment threads, especially after the Gates’ articles, which are a rather rich source about all of it, really.
The ultimate aim is a world in their vision, a ‘better’ world. They must usurp God, for they believe themselves better than God. That’s why everything they do is a big fuck you to God. Lies. Gender bending. Subversion. Take anything natural and re engineer it the ‘right way’.
It is really not difficult to understand once you have learned a little about religions.
I did study World Religions from a historical point of view…But I, personally, have no experience with gods and other mythological beings….I do understand that many do believe that some creature invented the world in which we live….But even if that were so, I certainly think this creature could have done an exceedingly better job of it….So if any entity out there could, indeed, give us “a better world”, I’d say go ahead!….Unless, as Voltaire’s Dr. Pangloss did, you agree that we already live in “the best of all possible worlds.”
The natural world is God created. To that extent all bad things in it are a natural occurrence, but it behooves us to identify and eradicate these deleterious influences/sicknesses.
The problem is most people are not even aware of the particular sickness which is afflicting us all and driving us rapidly towards our own demise.
I truly do not understand who are what this “God” thing is….But you believe it is something to contend with….The problem is that you state your belief as if it were a fact….Say it WERE true, that your “God” did create the world we live in….If so, one must conclude that given all “these deleterious (“natural”) influences/sicknesses” you acknowledge, such a “God” didn’t care a hoot about those who live in in his world.
There is far more proof of there being a creator than there is of random dust and gaseous explosions causing our universe.
God gave us free will. It is only your faulty conclusion that God does not care. You would not presume to fully understand the ways in which He works.
I find YOUR claim to know how the world began overwhelmingly presumptuous….Nobody was there at the time….You don’t know, I don’t know, nobody knows….Please be humble enough to acknowledge the distinction between Belief and Knowledge.
Humility doesnt come into it. Most scientific ‘knowledge’ is founded on assumptions and theory, ie belief. Plus the rulers of the world want us believing in science to divert us from the truth of our creator. They of course know we have a creator but they do not want the masses having the truth so they keep you subdued with bs theories like dust and gas.
Oh I see, now your are telling us that your theory is better than scientific theory and have the gall to accuse scientists of sharing your theory….That is the ultimate lack of humility!….Certainly, were you able to PROVE the authenticity of YOUR theory, most scientists would be delighted and stop studying the issue and get on to something else..
And at the end of the day, does it really matter who or what started the whole thing?….Probably not.
Scientists accept truths based on assumptions rather than what can be proven. Most of what they do is a joke.
Surely you must be aware that YOUR “truth” is “based on assumptions rather than what can be proven”….I suggest you leave it at that.
“Nobody can find it (the virus) to isolate it with a view to making a real vaccine.”
That’s right, so what’s in the vaccines they are preparing?
Probably either a ‘part one’ that will come with a promise of being able to prevent some of the virus symptoms( without being able to prove it). It might be sold as our ‘escape from lockdown at last’. Part two will be taken more readily if part one seems to work( because the invisible virus isn’t here any more). And that one’s the one carrying the damage. Or it could be a Gates style Trojan Horse. The ultimate metaphor for covert mass murder and destruction. When you’re asleep one night it will ‘open’…
The initial goal may be to establish enforced “treatment” with a “vaccine” – that now only “reduces symptoms”, and to sustain “cases” until this is done. Once this system is in place, they can initiate the cull, beginning with a gradual increase ascribed to “virus” mutation.
Huxley, in 1929, called it soma. A pill that would be like LSD in the real world of the 1960s. It was administered daily to keep the masses dumbed down and blissfully ignorant. If he was alive today he’d no doubt realise the power and potential of not only mind altering drugs but nano technology and the power of EM wave technology. Last November( 2019) the msm wet themselves with excitement as Elon Musk had thrown a few tons of junk into space. Like we needed it. There has to be 50,000 tons already choking the ionosphere. They’re satellites.. He now owns the record for ‘most satellites put in space. That’s a good thing? A month later we were given the virus bullshit. Is there a connection ? Not that I can prove. But the timing is ominous. The same month, Google announced that they and finally got their hands… Read more »
WEll it’s been shown Drosten made up a new virus by using the old virus, but coronaviruses have been around forever and a day, I don’t see why people are so ridiculous.
It’s an interesting point you make about fake death certificates.
I have no proof but I’m quite certain that there has been a lot of it going on in many countries.
What many people don’t realise is that the majority of countries and especially all of those hit by the ‘pandemic’ have signed up many years ago to implement Agenda 2030.
It was never going to go to a vote as we are not consulted on the plans from our overlords.
Something really big had to happen for them to implement their plans. The ‘pandemic’ ticks every box.
Exactly.. The whole area of signing death certificates has always been ropey in terms of the law, unless the body is part of a criminal investigation. Nobody questions official verdicts of doctors otherwise. But this was all a bit suspect once one or two choruses of ‘do-not- resuscitate- and ‘do-not- prioritise’ orders were placed above the heads of the over 65’s. Then the over 60s. Thus making the most vulnerable more vulnerable. That’s euthanasia. That doctors and medical professionals were given immunity from prosecution or investigation and then even cash incentivized to join in the scam the red flags came up like roses. The same creatures who stood at their podium lying through their teeth about wanting to be as firm and oppressive as possible just so we survived this threat were those paying doctors to indirectly kill patients. * If this virus is so deadly and efficient, why does… Read more »
Telling a fit and healthy person they are sick due to a PCR test is ridiculous.
If the testing stopped, society’s reopened and the media stopped reporting it this would be instantly over.
Unfortunately medicine, politics, media..all cogs in the apparatus of Dystopia. They’re all part of a team.
Footnote: The jockey in question tonight is a Belgian jockey based in France who picks up rides from around the world due to his talent. Tonight he had three rides booked with an Irish trainer taking on the rest of the world. Two of them won.
A jockey’s ‘cut’ is only 8% of the purse. But the two purses tonight amounted to over a million pounds each. His night’s work would have given him two brilliant medals. and around a quarter of a million pounds ( 450,000 dollars). Instead he’s out of pocket for the price of the plane ticket and forced to stay at home for two weeks once he’s home.
This fixing is a variant of insider trading. Whether it is an epidemic, disaster, war, etc., the big boys tip one another off at least a few hours ahead. More likely, it is the plutocrats who determine the timing of related government announcements.
No one was prosecuted or investigated for the vast profits made across the world just before “9/11”
none more than the sneering Donald Rumsfeld… that was a couple of years after he’d made a killing( to coin a phrase) via an arm of Monsanto.. Take The Vallance – Whitty Party. That’s the party that run’s the UK right now. They give the idiot his orders and he parrots their orders and hopes that their science will baffle us into blind acceptance of whatever they say. They, in turn, represent the interests of Bill Gates who, in turn represents the interests of Big Pharma, CISA and the NWO. Vallance bought £600,000 in Glaxo Smith Kline before we knew the pandemic was on it’s way. But it was promised by Gates and he made good. Before we knew ( or pretended to know) a thing about the virus or the length of the lockdowns, Gates knew enough to tell us the whole world needed a vaccine he said he… Read more »
They even tried this in Australia with some of the end stage alzheimers patients who died of neglect, initially even for an old lady of 95 with long term neglect and ant infested wounds. The families had autopsies done and found they did not die from any bloody virus but from alzheimers.
the test is of no good meaning, we know it, and they know it.
England/Wales weekly registered Convid deaths are listed as: Deaths where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate (ICD-10 U07.1 and U07.2)
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
Mentioned ?….interesting choice of words – and the Codes… (ICD-10 U07.1 and U07.2) as classified by the W.H.O
An emergency ICD-10 code of ‘U07.2 COVID-19, virus not identified’ is assigned to a clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available.
Both U07.1 and U07.2 may be used for mortality coding as cause of death.
https://www.who.int/classifications/icd/covid19/en/
The spread of Covid-19 can’t be stopped. Any new transmissible disease will eventually spread through the susceptible population no matter what you do. In the mean time you can rant and rave in self-delustion pretending that you are smarter than nature. Keep using tests that produce false positives and keep increasing the number of tests that you are doing in order to increase the number of false positives. Also pretend that the reason that the flu has all but disappeared is because people are wearing masks so that when Covid-19 has left you can mandate compulsory mask wearing in all flu seasons, thereby maintaining control over the people you pretend to serve.
There’s enough evidence available now to convene a common law court and prosecute some of the main criminals on a charge of fraud and deception with malicious intent (and not simply negligence) because they are willfully and knowingly causing more harm to the public under the guise of protecting them from a fictitious SARS -Cov-2 virus.
The problem is there are not enough people as yet to support that possible remedy en masse. Joining the Common Law Court would be helpful and the first step to justice for the people who are still in the dark about what the cosmocrats really have in store for everyone.
“If you move a piece of furniture in your living room and find a spider underneath it on Saturday, and then the next day you move twenty items of furniture, and find 10 spiders it would be absolutely crazy to say there was 900% daily increase in spiders or that spiders are “increasing exponentially”.
Those spiders were probably there yesterday. You just weren’t looking for them.
…and if you hadn’t gone out of your way to find them, would you ever have known they were even there?”
Wonderful analogy. Every single person needs to hear it!!
Perhaps you saw a bit of dust and there never were any spiders at all?
Yep, or dust “spiders.” 🙂
The Emperor’s New Covids?
FYI & FWIW: LOVE IN THE TIME OF CORONA~~ I went to the hinterland of Little Saigon here in the OC for “1st Saturday” Mass (observant Roman Catholics may be the only ones who might see the many meanings that may radiate from that co-incidence, others might bear with me). When I arrived, we were in the throes of the first real rains of Fall, welcome to douse the ongoing embers of the bad wildfires we endured here a fortnight back. When I parked, I chanced one last glance at the updated vote totals for the White House, but that august body which is the prime source for the data, as well as “calling” races, A.P. (an acronym for “August Pimps” — well, OK, more formally: “August Presstitutes” — no, really; I don’t get where they got the misconcept that it’s the call letters for “Associated Press” — perhaps a… Read more »
LOL
LOVE IT!!!!!
God, I hate the F word but I just took a screen shot.
Absolutely! And the rest of the governments with them.
Ivor Cummings is a straight scientific researcher and clear communicator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eJuj0rx-48
Many here will go deeper into what underlies the decision to react by controlled demolition of the Economy, as well as the actual biology beneath pharma-narratives and their captured mindshare.
There is no second wave.
(Meaningless) Tests are set and used to make there SEEM to be a rising of infection.
Brian you have recently been on Brilliant Form. Thank You.
As we all know the “tests” are meaningless for this concocted virus….. “Tony Fauci makes a point of saying the PCR COVID test is useless and misleading when the test is run at “35 cycles or higher.” A positive result, indicating infection, cannot be accepted or believed.
The “test” in other words is the perfect vehicle to inspire and disseminate widespread fear and panic worldwide amongst the sheep
Correct. A PCR test run at over 35 cycles is picking up dead nucleotides which could be from any virus.
Currently the UK and USA are running 45 cycles of amplification which will also just throw up incorrect results.
From the theory to the practice: NHS nurse publicly resigns: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8916871/Whistleblower-NHS-worker-reveals-whats-REALLY-going-NHS-hospitals.html
Yeh she’s famous now. I really like girls like that. My Mum and Dad, met each other in Cornwall, and our Family including our Grandchildren, still spend at least a bit of the summer there. I think the Cornish are lovely people. They are like us from North Western France, Lancashire and Yorkshire.
We say what we think.
My family arrived in Staithes, and we didn’t know a word of English
And they let us in.
Tony
The Manic Media Show goes on. The Guardian was one of the first to declare Joe Biden the Winner. Meanwhile The Trump Campaign holds a News Conference in a Garden Centre in Pennsylvania which is woefully dire with Rudy Giuliani exhibiting as much charm as the Mafia Rattlesnake he displayed on 9/11. At least Trump told the truth about that, until he was told to change his mind.
God knows what happens next. Maybe we should ask this guy.
Apparently he is the chief architect of these Colour Revolutions, and is now doing it to the USA.
I must admit, I had never heard of him before today, but He does have a very impressive CV, and was a mate of Obama’s at school. You can guess where his parents came from. The Russians will be laughing themselves silly. Even I am a bit.
https://www.sott.net/article/443904-Meet-Norm-Eisen-Legal-hatchet-man-and-central-operative-in-the-color-revolution-against-President-Trump
Tony
How COVID SHAM STARTED part 2 (part 1 follows) Moreover this excerpt on clinical status of three patients in the Chinese study used to allegedly identify SC2 infection as new and deadly disease in view of last ten months experience with use harmful even deadly clinical therapies and protocols like ventilators indicates falsity of WHO developed COVID clinical protocols and wrongly chosen hospital therapies including deadly drug regimes as a major cause of deaths, not inherent lethality of supposed new virus. [ibid] Three adult patients presented with severe pneumonia and were admitted to a hospital in Wuhan on December 27, 2019. Patient 1 was a 49-year-old woman, Patient 2 was a 61-year-old man, and Patient 3 was a 32-year-old man. Clinical profiles were available for Patients 1 and 2. Patient 1 reported having no underlying chronic medical conditions but reported fever (temperature, 37°C to 38°C) and cough with chest discomfort on December… Read more »
Part 1 is waiting for..spam check.
Stop trying to be logical.
Were dealing with a higher power here
Emotion.
Fear trumps fact
It’s not the virus that’s feared
It’s the Govt.
How COVID sham started.Part 1 The paper of discovery of alleged new betacoronavirus as a likely cause of allegedly new disease was published in February 2020 in NEJM entitled “A Novel Coronavirus from Patients with Pneumonia in China, 2019” “ https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2001017 Since beginning this paper was not vigorously scrutinized except for few skeptics from academia whom MSM access was denied. Instead required broad scientific debate before any decisions are made , long repudiated by hard empirical evidences Ferguson’s pandemic models and February 2020 Chinese paper, not peer reviewed at that time, that at best represented preliminary analysis full of unproven conjectures and at best limited tentative conclusions. Still those preliminary and questionable studies provided initial “scientific” cover for draconian and socioeconomically destabilizing and devastating COVID policies adopted and developed by WHO and CDC almost immediately implemented by governments worldwide under alleged exigent circumstances of alleged medical emergency of supposedly new pandemic… Read more »
It’s also worth pointing out that the PCR test for alleged Sars Cov 2 will produce positive test results for Sars 1, all Asian viruses and all Bat like coronaviruses.
There is simply no way that China and Asian countries can claim they are Covid free by using these tests.
Their numbers are simply made up.
Well, most of the numbers elsewhere are made up too.
If you look at the charts of countries which have Covid “hot spots” right now, and since March, some very striking parallels and co-incidences become obvious.
Almost across the board, all the countries besieged by Covid “stats” have “a dog in the hunt” for a “reset” economy.
My search hasn’t been complete, but the commie countries all seem to be the least afflicted.
Perhaps capitalism attacks the human immune system.
It seems that we in Europe and the Americanized West have no herd immunity to propaganda.
And they’re not rushing any vaccines either.
For least affected, also remember Africa.
It seems that we in Europe and the Americanized West have no herd immunity to propaganda.
Great comment.
The most striking Hallmark of humankind: Frailty. Americanized to the maximum (fill in the blanks_______________+__+) informationally, widely and spreading, as Herd Helplessness. That is an exact (and exacting) technology of totalitarians, not an accident or theory. Occulted, coming into stark(er) relief these here days. Hey, I’m just a humble Conspiracy Realist. On certain fronts, this land where we all find ourselves metaphorically marooned, IS quite an “exceptional(ist)” place. On that front, we the people are the premier in the global empire, of haplessness. Just look at the covid “stats”. Or: our quarter of the world’s prison population (not counting generic house arrest lite as the current prequel to it’s sorry next act). A nifty quarter of the world’s exceptional-virus, if not after all novel, in coviddy deaths. (Coviddy is the cognate in my own exceptionalist lexicon of “truthiness” if I may tear a page from S. Colbert’s dictionary.) A national… Read more »
Take the following with a pinch of salt. Common symptoms at hospitalisation in China/Italy/Germany were, by frequency [source: covidgraph.com, c. 2020-06]
– Fever : 88/75/42%
– Cough : 68/38/50%
– Short of breath: 19/72/0%
– Sputum : 33/0/0%
– Rhinorhea : 0/0/21%
– Diarrhea : 0/6/0%
Note: these countries omit loss of sense of smell common in UK, also found in flu.
Comparison of covid-19/flu symptons, besides the shared fever and cough [source: covidgraph.com]:
– Short of breath: common/no
– Headache : sometimes/common
– Other aches : sometimes/common
– Sore throat : sometimes/common
– Fatigue : sometimes/common
– Diarrhea : rare/sometimes
– Rhinorhea : rare/sometimes
From the summary:
“Although our study does not fulfill Koch’s postulates, our analyses provide evidence implicating 2019-nCoV in the Wuhan outbreak.”
I actually pulled the above snippet from the paper, before finishing your article!
There is no second wave in Australia. The media and politicians want to make us think that that is due to their previous zero Covid strategies, early border closures, quarantine requirements, harsh lockdowns in Victoria etc.. In truth, it is because they are only testing symptomatic people with a PCR test that, correctly, utilizes only 24! cycles. In contrast, the UK uses 37-41cyles, Germany 45, the NFL 30, Fauci himself thinks anything above 35 is BS etc.. Australia is probably allowed to do so by the Great Resetters, because it also provided the necessary narrative for them and the other countries that this is due to their harsh lockdowns and that they do work and can bring about Zero Covid. Again, in truth, their Zero Covid is due to using PCR tests with a CT of only 24. If we and the Row did the same, we’d all be Covid… Read more »
sounds about right
We really didn’t have a first wave to be perfectly honest. In Australia it’s a tale of two cities. Melbourne was deliberately run down by a ruthless Premier enjoying his new found powers. While in Sydney it was a softer approach. More cautionary. Australia couldn’t really afford to have Sydney and Melbourne shut down at the same time all because of a bullshit virus.
Agreed. Also, because Melbourne is the home of Jane Halton, who works for The Gates Foundation; she is Australia’s Covid-19 Coordinator and she is the person that both Federal and State answer to. Turns out that her brother-in-law, Brett Sutton, is Victoria’s Chief Health Officer. Mainstream media has been silent on this serious conflict of interest.
https://australiannationalreview.com/state-of-affairs/more-conflicts-of-interest-exposed-around-victorian-health-minister-brett-sutton/
What a surprise.
Also to ponder, Melbourne was the site of a WEF conference some years ago and it received some pretty significant pushback and resistance from protesters, who would have rather given Klaus Schwab & Co. the boot altogether, as I’m sure that was palpable to all involved.
Is the draconian abuse of Melbourne now a “case” of them making an example of resisters?
That’s a typical Nazi tactic for such.
I don’t know enough about it, but it’s a suspicion.
That’s the beauty of PCR. You can increase or decrease the cases by the way you test.
That’s WHY they use the PCR tests.
Flexibility, or malleability, of “diagnosis”.
There’s no ‘second wave’, it’s all complete BS.
And now we apparently have Biden as President.
God help America, and in particular the rest of the world.
I should add that I’ve never been a Trump supporter. The whole thing, ‘American democracy’, is a total scam.
What is it, 360 million people in the USA? and we’re told all they are going to vote for is red or blue, neither of which you can put a cigarette paper between.
It sounds really sane/real to me (NOT).
It is what it is, Rob. Been that way for a long time. We really shouldn’t be surprised. The level of discourse has steadily dropped to a point that is incomprehensible. It’s sad and frightening that so many are “invested” in this insanity. I could go on and on, but I think most folks here get it.
Continuous wave of pureshit
Just as an aside, we do not have Biden as president simply because Chief Justice Zuckerberg or the CIA Factbook (Wikipedia) declares it. It matters little to me, and I don’t have a dog in this fight if you will pardon that expression PETA people, but it appears very obvious to me that Trump won the election on the basis of valid votes and the fraud on the part of the DNC is astronomical. I do resent cheating even in this era of peak fraud. We will see how this plays out in the courts. The DNC’s massive fraud, both in mail-in ballots and voting machine “accidents,” is already being exposed. But always keep in mind that there is an agenda above who is the upper middle management spokesperson for the United States of Slavelandia. Which is to create a civil war – age old divide and conquer. If the… Read more »
330, I believe. As we “all” predicted, mostly, hardly prophetic, they are busily ramping up all the new and improved ($arca$m) ways to shutdown, or as they penally put it, Lockdowns.
Or, as distinguished L.A. historian and scholar Mike Davis put it the other night on KPFK.org, any further shutdown will be, for small businesses all over, an “Extinction Event”.
Second Wave of SteerScheiße — …might be the weather forecast too… button up, with hoodies.
“ The “second wave” is likely the result of increased testing.”
..LIKELY..
😅
A bit of hedging up front?
And of course increased testing will give increased positives – and increased negatives and non determined too!
So the only way to know if the spread is increasing or decreasing is to know the RATE of positive/negative/undetermined isn’t it.
So what has been happening to the positive rate over the last month or two?
DO TELL.
Yes, it’s actually all about our health.
If the government were serious about determining the number of true infections of this virus they would firstly ensure the virus is isolated and the RNA being tested for belongs to this new virus.
Once determined each positive test result should have a Ct value attributed to it. If between 25 and 32 it would indicate an active infection. To qualify the result they would assess the patients symptoms and retest the patient to be certain. This would be deemed to be a case.
None of the above is being done. All tests are just run at 45 cycles. At this number of cycles they haven’t got a clue who would be infected or not.
It’s a one brush fits all policy that is completely misleading and non scientific.
On CBS newzradio in LA just now: “Massive new waves of virus are continuing to sweep the country.”
Sounds much like the taglines to 70s disaster movies, or rather, their spoofs.
Or a headline banner made of a Bush statement after 9/11 which I had pinned on the wall for years, to sober me in a pinch:
“KILLERS ARE PLOTTING TO ATTACK US!”
Pavlov would be proud.
Who needs a bell ringing at intervals?
Or even a mask, for that matter?
I think the day is coming when you’ll turn on your radio and hear this:
“And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Covid, and Covid followed with him. And Covid was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with Covid, and with Covid, and with Covid, and with the Covids of the Covid.”
“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.”
No-one knows about the positive rate since many who get it don’t know they’ve got it. But if someone tells me I’ve got it and wants to register me as a COVID death for a bit of cash then why not? I might as well join in the fun.
Stick to hospital admissions data, daily/weekly death rates and you won’t go too far wrong.
It is very hard to forge 10,000 death certificates per week in the UK, as that means you need doctors who have reneged all principles to basically forge the most important paperwork going.
If you forge death certificates, that means that people have a great way to cross check against known databases: did those people have NI numbers, where did they pay council tax, did they have mobile phone numbers, did they have credit cards, bank accounts etc etc.
It won’t take very long to flush out falsified death certificates, because a death implies a life lived and a life lived always leaves an audit trail.
I still fear that there could well be a simple algorithm which would just take the place of all those doctors and churn out 10,000 forged death certificates a day…
The doctors wouldn’t even know about it. A junior programmer in a cellar office would see to it.
Are you saying they didn’t “forge” the certificates…? To “confirm” someone died of Covid… you need to isolate the virus, and have fool proof testing… To pin it on a vague novel illness, I would look at total death counts, compare with previous years. If there was a significant increase that can’t be attributed to a major new event, then I would suspect something… That is just not the case. End of investigation. Even shutting down health care to cancer patients and other critical illnesses, didn’t seem to have the effect that justified the panic in total death counts… What now? Still a debate?…
” We don’t seem to have a murder, certainly can’t find a body. But we want to hire you mr. Poirot… “
“very hard to forge 10,000 death certificates per week ..
.. people have a great way to cross check against known databases: did those people have NI numbers, where did they pay council tax, did they have mobile phone numbers, did they have credit cards, bank accounts etc etc.”
Yes, yes and yes. No problem, we can do that.
Tweaking program/procedure time: 2 hours
Program/procedure testing: 2 hours
Data generation time:
10 minutes for 10,000
One hour for 1 million
Payment method: Crypto, Heroine, Cash $US
Please state desired country.
Morgue photographic evidence needs additional 10 days approximately.
Every government is trying hard to obfuscate with “cases”, asymptomatics, etc. Some governments have not even bothered to hide their loose classification, orders to doctors and “incentive” money to hospitals. The following figures would be useful, preferrably weekly, if they really wanted to justify restrictions:
:- total currently isolated with symptoms
:- total currently hospitalised with advanced symptoms
:- dead within the week.
The continued use of the PCR test is a vulnerable cornerstone of the scam and needs to be the focus.
We are really in ‘end times’ right now. Either we heading for an utterly horrific nightmare of complete and total control over humanity (don’t take my word for it – take it from the head of the World Economic Forum) – or humanity is going to stand up, en masse, and say, ‘NO!’ It’s been quite a frustrating seven months for me. Not to toot my own horn, but I’m sure like a lot of people here, I saw through the utterly farcical pretext of a ‘virus’ right from the start. There is never, ever justification for a population to be put under house arrest. I have watched as all across the world significant, legitimate protests and organization have taken place to push back against the utterly horrific impositions. At the time of the lockdowns, I moved back in with my parents in suburbia in Ohio, USA. They were legitimately… Read more »
Good luck to you mate. I will pray for America tonight now that you will have this senile criminal pervert as your President.
He isn’t gonna be president, Kool Aid Kamala will, not that it’s better news.
I was reading up on her today, and one thing I will say, although I reeled when she denied Sirhan a new trial: her voting record otherwise is as blue as can be, with almost no blemish, and she had voted and judged lifelong in SF, Oakland, Sacramento and DC for what Reinhold Niebuhr called wonderfully “an ethic of progressive justice” 99.9% of the time. Very strong that way. Especially her Judge Rose Bird-like militancy against the death penalty, the one thing that cost Bird her career here. So, that’s proof of real balls. And the Right Stuff inside them. The Sirhan matter bothers me so deeply, but it’s a cornerstone of the cabal she may have chosen to not mess with. But I can’t think of many besides Barbara Lee and Cynthia McKinney whose stances I like more. Or Kucinich, whom I know. Some think Newsom might appoint Lee… Read more »
And as a Party organizer for these things in LA, I come from a family that rescued our adopted dog from the fast lane of the 405 and coddled him through ten years of devotion: his given name was Justice, short for Chief JUSTICE Rose Bird 🐕 Dog, during Bird’s 80s very public agony.
We rescued him on our drive to a fundraising luncheon for Rose.
WOOF!
Good grief!
https://markcrispinmiller.com/2020/10/the-black-socialist-presents-a-beautiful-mosaic-of-kamala-harris/
https://twitter.com/blacksocialists/status/1293300907241857026?lang=en As district attorney in San Francisco (2004-2011), attorney general in California (2011-2017), and, finally, US senator (2017 to the present), Harris has compiled a track record of backing the police, locking up workers and immigrants, covering up for the banks and supporting militarism and war. Wall Street is certainly happy with the choice. “A VP pick that big business can back,” ran a headline on the inside pages of the New York Times. As for the military, its main concern is what will happen if the aging Biden doesn’t make it through a full term. Since the beginning of the Trump administration, opposition from the Democratic Party has been focused on issues of foreign policy. Harris, who has no other agenda than her own self-promotion, will be silly putty in the hands of the military-intelligence apparatus. And she was a big pusher of the Russia Gate hoax during the Trump… Read more »
https://www.blackagendareport.com/kamala-auntie-vulgarity-bourgeois-identity-politics-2020
she sounds perfect for the job!
Well, I’m not going to cheerlead for the VP, and it’s not the first derogatories I’ve heard about her, but I’ll have to study and sort it all out, because there are very very few public figures who have been as adamantly, tenaciously against the death penalty as she has been, and have also managed to alienate me and mine. She’s taken quite a few positions that are not only admirable, but NOT at all –in any way, shape, or form– consistent with the narcissistic and somewhat Trumpian profile “of someone who has no other agenda than self-promotion” as you put it below. Also, it’s not consistent with her career history that she be generally used as “silly putty.” Though, as it happened that Obama accommodated our killing machines, it seems like it comes with the White House, ever since JFK tried to turn that tide and paid the price.… Read more »
I’ve done some very rewarding work in Juvenile Hall since 1987, off and on, I met on the street some kids who got scared straight there, also, so I can connect with Kamala Harris on this, continued from her wiki bio: Recidivism and re-entry initiative: In 2004, Harris recruited civil rights activist Lateefah Simon to create San Francisco Reentry Division.[96] The flagship program was the Back on Track initiative, a first-of-its-kind reentry program for first-time nonviolent offenders age 18–30.[citation needed] Initiative participants whose crimes were not weapon or gang-related would plead guilty in exchange for a deferral of sentencing and regular appearances before a judge over a twelve- to eighteen-month period. The program maintained rigorous graduation requirements, mandating completion of up to 220 hours of community service, obtaining a high-school-equivalency diploma, maintaining steady employment, taking parenting classes, and passing drug tests. At graduation, the court would dismiss the case and… Read more »
Cheerleading is exactly what you’re doing, that and making excuses for her, Obama (Mr Drone War, militarization of police, crackdown on whistle blowers, picked and groomed by Zbig Brzezinsi in early ’80s) and for the Democratic Party, a counter-insurgency operation since 1916, with the goal of diverting people who would otherwise be doing radical politics outside the two party system right back into the corporate status quo. Go ahead and hang on to your illusions. I lost mine in ’72, after working for McGovern.
One of the excuses for the lockdowns is that they “did what China did” – the elephant in that room is that the Chinese probably thought they were under attack by a biological weapon wielded by guess who? And responded accordingly to save their population.
Not incredible.
Resilience and survival for now… that’s my motto. Not having a residence is not the answer. Think hard… If you go down, they win. No time to get emotional.
It’s always been the ‘end times’ since we first became aware of time itself.
After all, we’re all going to die, and nobody gets out of this alive.
But these times times are accelerating, what some call in religious pop culture, The Quickening.
Doesn’t the text of origin for that notion, the Bible, especially the last of the last, Revelations, almost end with the memo:
“Surely I come quickly.”
At least a daunting “update”.
Why have some always sensed so little benefit in standing, or even sitting, up en masse and saying “NO” to all this? Is it just because our hopes have gone beyond.
The one act that has appeared among many to have any force these days, is, yes, to stand up, but to say “YES” to the Highest Power. Or even kneel.
That Power alone is above all these wannabe powers, some of which appear quite widespread and also some of them quite sinister, and that power can alone silence their fell plans.
Ours alone won’t cut it.
But together we can get through it.
That’s how I feel it. And each in his or her own way may sometimes feel the same.
“humanity will stand up and say NO!”? After they get finished standing up and cheering at the election finals today? I’ve already received comments from people that I know, who of course think I’m just DELIGHTED, like they are, at the Biden/Harris supposed win, and I cannot even reply. People are ecstatic. Masked, distanced, unemployed, isolated and ECSTATIC. So, as much as I hate to say it, Joe, nah – don’t think humanity is going to do a thing but roll up it’s sleeve and take the shot. And like Rob mentioned in his comment, I am not, and never was a Trump supporter. But I am so sickened by the Democratic party that I almost would have preferred the continuance of his inanity. It’s not so much Biden and Harris themselves that terrify me – they are just pawns. It is the reaction of people who actually think things… Read more »
I do completely resonate with much of your sentiment, Judith. A big initial catalyst to my process of awakening to the nature of this system was seeing the way the media, and the DNC, treated Sanders in 2016. He largely kept is campaign extremely focused, making straightforward, factual statements about the system, such as, ‘medical care is one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in the U.S.’, or, ‘people are working longer hours for lower wages to make ends meet’. In response to this, it was really breathtaking to behold the coordinated nature by which the gamut of the ‘media’ spectrum attacked, vilified and ridiculed them – in every way other than challenging his claims, of course, because they were true. I am dubious about the actual intents of Sanders – the fact that he folded to the establishment in each of the last primaries was disconcerting. However, he really… Read more »
Thanks for your response, Joe. I would consider myself a pretty empathetic person. Sometimes overly. But unlike you, right now, I am not feeling it. And I am not one to use the term “sheeple”. i really have tried to give everyone the respect they/we all deserve as human beings. I was a life-long democrat, although completely disenchanted with the whole political scene beginning in about 2014. And this past year I have been disgusted (no other word) by the Democratic party. What I see on the horizon is more tyranny topped off with even more identity politics, censorship, entitlement, assumption, BLM and antifa rhetoric, and all the rest of the holier-than-thou attitude. And, I must say, I have never felt lonelier. There is literally one person in my life that I can talk to about this. Everyone else is jumping for joy. OK, enough of the pity party. As… Read more »
Thank you. The point is not merely to survive, but to stay human.
I hear so few people chafing against the masks, so I’m vocal about them. I think deep down most people don’t know what to do.
And now, right on schedule, media is swamping us with more surge schmooze.
Just in the last few days it’s gone disgustingly from “it’s not a surge like July” to “new waves are sweeping the country”.
Like, 5 days between “not all that bad” to “it’s terrible again”. It just seems clearly like another purely pre-fabricated purge, prequel to more closures. Yeccchh.
And yet the connections to facts are all so flimsy.