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		By: Penny Fulton		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-327004</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Penny Fulton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2021 11:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-324156&quot;&gt;CatCollector&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you understand English ? Right then : 
This is the proposal ! 
We WRITE our own POLICY to ELECT ......got it ? NO &#039;persons&#039; , NO &#039;parties &#039; ( sic ) .....got it ? 
WE (nominate and)  APPOINT ( our own ) SACKABLE facilitators 
( by facilitators, I mean EVERY PERSON who is carrying out The Policy Elected, whether they be police, courts, builders or public toilet cleaners ! comprendez ? )  

WE have no &#039; leaders &#039; but POLICY . All &#039;leaders&#039; are idolatry .
Just as we as individuals can ONLY be honest people by having only HIGHEST PRINCIPLES as our GOD : 
(Not &#039;other person&#039;s&#039;  and winning their approval as our God  : IE The Ego as our God ). 

We SET the terms and conditions of EMPLOYMENT for ALL &#039;facilitators&#039; 
as a matter of The Policy Elected. 

Those terms and conditions will be simple,eg :  &#039;  only public facilitators will be subject to a &#039; crime and punishment &#039; public facility .

(All criminals are in Gov. : None are among  the public . 
As soon as we treat people BY POLICY, with respect instead of coercively as &#039; criminals &#039; ! and the next generation with respect instead of 
as aspiring &#039;rulers of other people &#039;. THEN we will not need to use ANY  &#039; LAWS&#039; over others .)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-324156">CatCollector</a>.</p>
<p>Do you understand English ? Right then :<br />
This is the proposal !<br />
We WRITE our own POLICY to ELECT &#8230;&#8230;got it ? NO &#8216;persons&#8217; , NO &#8216;parties &#8216; ( sic ) &#8230;..got it ?<br />
WE (nominate and)  APPOINT ( our own ) SACKABLE facilitators<br />
( by facilitators, I mean EVERY PERSON who is carrying out The Policy Elected, whether they be police, courts, builders or public toilet cleaners ! comprendez ? )  </p>
<p>WE have no &#8216; leaders &#8216; but POLICY . All &#8216;leaders&#8217; are idolatry .<br />
Just as we as individuals can ONLY be honest people by having only HIGHEST PRINCIPLES as our GOD :<br />
(Not &#8216;other person&#8217;s&#8217;  and winning their approval as our God  : IE The Ego as our God ). </p>
<p>We SET the terms and conditions of EMPLOYMENT for ALL &#8216;facilitators&#8217;<br />
as a matter of The Policy Elected. </p>
<p>Those terms and conditions will be simple,eg :  &#8216;  only public facilitators will be subject to a &#8216; crime and punishment &#8216; public facility .</p>
<p>(All criminals are in Gov. : None are among  the public .<br />
As soon as we treat people BY POLICY, with respect instead of coercively as &#8216; criminals &#8216; ! and the next generation with respect instead of<br />
as aspiring &#8216;rulers of other people &#8216;. THEN we will not need to use ANY  &#8216; LAWS&#8217; over others .)</p>
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		By: Penny Fulton		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-326991</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Penny Fulton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2021 10:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-326195&quot;&gt;Researcher&lt;/a&gt;.

Doesn&#039;t matter what it was set up to be ! 
Everything is what we create, not what we inherit . 

This is the Policy of all &#039;parties&#039; and the model of Gov. ( ie : POLICY )  you are speaking of, which WE the EMPLOYER EXPECT as the only &#039;option &#039; : 

The Policy is the creation of &lt;strong&gt;Artificial &lt;/strong&gt;Public &#039;Need&#039; as a job creation scheme for tax payer funded corporate welfare. 

You understand that ? we, the public ARE both the market fodder and the financiers  of corporate administration of our own petty income and private life regulation.

Clearly, if we as individuals EXPECT TO BE  the Policy makers and individual financiers of our own welfare, then WE decide what goods and services WE need and indeed want and furthermore WE provide them for ourselves as individuals and as collective enterprizes at COMMUNITY level . 
IE : Community Driven Enterprize. 

VIS : We generate real wealth in our own LOCAL well-being of actual BASIC need as the fundamental infrastructure ( which actually &#039;costs &#039; nothing,when we are providing our own labour and using the materials of abundance provided by nature ). 

Thus leaving creativity in eg. arts, practical and technical invention etc. as (optional) extras and bonuses to the ( real ) economy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-326195">Researcher</a>.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter what it was set up to be !<br />
Everything is what we create, not what we inherit . </p>
<p>This is the Policy of all &#8216;parties&#8217; and the model of Gov. ( ie : POLICY )  you are speaking of, which WE the EMPLOYER EXPECT as the only &#8216;option &#8216; : </p>
<p>The Policy is the creation of <strong>Artificial </strong>Public &#8216;Need&#8217; as a job creation scheme for tax payer funded corporate welfare. </p>
<p>You understand that ? we, the public ARE both the market fodder and the financiers  of corporate administration of our own petty income and private life regulation.</p>
<p>Clearly, if we as individuals EXPECT TO BE  the Policy makers and individual financiers of our own welfare, then WE decide what goods and services WE need and indeed want and furthermore WE provide them for ourselves as individuals and as collective enterprizes at COMMUNITY level .<br />
IE : Community Driven Enterprize. </p>
<p>VIS : We generate real wealth in our own LOCAL well-being of actual BASIC need as the fundamental infrastructure ( which actually &#8216;costs &#8216; nothing,when we are providing our own labour and using the materials of abundance provided by nature ). </p>
<p>Thus leaving creativity in eg. arts, practical and technical invention etc. as (optional) extras and bonuses to the ( real ) economy.</p>
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		By: captain spam		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-326851</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[captain spam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-324173&quot;&gt;CatCollector&lt;/a&gt;.

Who needs any better info when we&#039;ve got Adrian Zenz and the Atlantic Council to spew out non stop poison?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-324173">CatCollector</a>.</p>
<p>Who needs any better info when we&#8217;ve got Adrian Zenz and the Atlantic Council to spew out non stop poison?</p>
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		By: captain spam		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-326850</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[captain spam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-323907&quot;&gt;CatCollector&lt;/a&gt;.

More venom required, C., more venom.                                                                  	Must earn those shekels.                                                                        Remember not to leave out all the cannibalism and devil worship in China as well. And the 500 million weegers being turned into soap and lamp shades.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-323907">CatCollector</a>.</p>
<p>More venom required, C., more venom.                                                                  	Must earn those shekels.                                                                        Remember not to leave out all the cannibalism and devil worship in China as well. And the 500 million weegers being turned into soap and lamp shades.</p>
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		By: Researcher		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-326195</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Researcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2021 17:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-326056&quot;&gt;Penny Fulton&lt;/a&gt;.

You’re missing the most crucial factor. The entire process of government and democracy was set up to be illusory from the beginning. It’s a con game. If you believe the con that’s on you. The point is that the government (a corporate entity) is tricking the public into thinking they have agency or an expectation. It’s fraud. It’s criminal. Governments are not legitimate or lawful. They rule through generating false perceptions to the public and through a number of legal deceptions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-326056">Penny Fulton</a>.</p>
<p>You’re missing the most crucial factor. The entire process of government and democracy was set up to be illusory from the beginning. It’s a con game. If you believe the con that’s on you. The point is that the government (a corporate entity) is tricking the public into thinking they have agency or an expectation. It’s fraud. It’s criminal. Governments are not legitimate or lawful. They rule through generating false perceptions to the public and through a number of legal deceptions.</p>
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		By: Penny Fulton		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-326056</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Penny Fulton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-324136&quot;&gt;Researcher&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you not understand what PUBLIC EXPECTATION is ? 
Corporations only have the power WE the public, their EMPLOYER gave them ! 
They ACTIVATE power through OUR EXPECTATION to be ruled by PERSONS ( ie arbitrarily ) NOT our own POLICY: 
Where we EXPECT to elect  POLICY , WE also APPOINT ALL who facilitate that policy . 

COMPRENDEZ ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-324136">Researcher</a>.</p>
<p>Do you not understand what PUBLIC EXPECTATION is ?<br />
Corporations only have the power WE the public, their EMPLOYER gave them !<br />
They ACTIVATE power through OUR EXPECTATION to be ruled by PERSONS ( ie arbitrarily ) NOT our own POLICY:<br />
Where we EXPECT to elect  POLICY , WE also APPOINT ALL who facilitate that policy . </p>
<p>COMPRENDEZ ?</p>
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		By: mikael		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-325640</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mikael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I just awaited some days to see what came crawling out of the wood work regarding the Catalans, and lo and behold, it didnt take long before the usual pack of uh.... &quot;we know its Sore-Ass &#038; Co&quot; crowd, why dont you crawl back, scums to shitholes where you belong like Faker and Foreman Mao of Alabama to the despecable SouthFront, huh, whom even managed to prove the Armenian PMs colution with Sore-Ass with faked images, etc, to the infamous Open Soc, witch you scums dont even have any links to, I have read this links before and they have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the Catalans rightful fight for their own self-rule and control, but stil you scums howl, huh, I have nothing but pure contempt regarding scums lke you, and others whom is crawling in here and if you think it was bad regarding the Crimean referendum etc to CONvid, this case is an classical ex. on well pissers invading an forum, refs are good to thee, but not for me.
&#038;%#¤#&#038; holes.

So, to the problem, Calileus is correct, its called the Stockholm syndrome, and this time I dont want to link to history because I know this well pissers dont bother to educate your self but yap the standard giberish to have some sort of point, but isnt even close, but the problem, Catalans isnt the elections, like the last time where some of this well pissers whined about the 42% rate of voutes, regardeless of the same said with 95% of them suporting the ref. but they whined about just 42% witch was due to the actions coming from the Spanian Gov and Police whom blocked and confiscated etc, etc the vouting and stole the ballots, and now the same people are here again, but never do they admit the facts of the actions taken by the scums in Madrid.

Socialistic, witch means what, nothing, I belived we where over that debated, Norway is so called social democratic but is been in wars for over 20 years, bombing nations, slaughtering civlians, incl making an killing in Yemen, thru Kongsberg and Raufoss, any one whom uses an 12.5 cal, multipurpouse amo, knows about Raufoss, etc to drones and yet, despite that, we are uh..... humanistic, hallelujah and have the Nobels piss price on top of it.
Hypocrits is just an mild describtion of the uh....&quot;vikings&quot;.
The truth is, Catalans, your self apointed ones are rotten to their core, not that I would engage in this hysterical reactions to the CONvid scam, but the fact that despite that I fully suport your fight, dont mean I suport your attacks on others, no way, but instead make it certain your own culture survives, and traditions, etc is solidly placed where it belongs in Catalonia and revive it to what it sould have been.

Again, I dont want to link, I skipped a lot of history about Catalans and the Basque to make this short, I may do that another time, but to the Catalans, you have to go back to your roots, and work your self back again to the present, and this second rate citizen is because of been subjugated by the Gov in Madrid for centurys, and treated like shit, and the worst thing you can do then is doing the same against others.

You have to get the independence, to move away from the MADrid Gov whom is going to destroy sPain, and their blatant hypocrasy, like in the western MSM, whines about Kiev while the sPain Gov uses rubber bulets against Catalans, yeah, but never ever apologise, never ever fall down to their level, be loud and proud, never give in nor give up.

peace]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I just awaited some days to see what came crawling out of the wood work regarding the Catalans, and lo and behold, it didnt take long before the usual pack of uh&#8230;. &#8220;we know its Sore-Ass &amp; Co&#8221; crowd, why dont you crawl back, scums to shitholes where you belong like Faker and Foreman Mao of Alabama to the despecable SouthFront, huh, whom even managed to prove the Armenian PMs colution with Sore-Ass with faked images, etc, to the infamous Open Soc, witch you scums dont even have any links to, I have read this links before and they have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the Catalans rightful fight for their own self-rule and control, but stil you scums howl, huh, I have nothing but pure contempt regarding scums lke you, and others whom is crawling in here and if you think it was bad regarding the Crimean referendum etc to CONvid, this case is an classical ex. on well pissers invading an forum, refs are good to thee, but not for me.<br />
&amp;%#¤#&amp; holes.</p>
<p>So, to the problem, Calileus is correct, its called the Stockholm syndrome, and this time I dont want to link to history because I know this well pissers dont bother to educate your self but yap the standard giberish to have some sort of point, but isnt even close, but the problem, Catalans isnt the elections, like the last time where some of this well pissers whined about the 42% rate of voutes, regardeless of the same said with 95% of them suporting the ref. but they whined about just 42% witch was due to the actions coming from the Spanian Gov and Police whom blocked and confiscated etc, etc the vouting and stole the ballots, and now the same people are here again, but never do they admit the facts of the actions taken by the scums in Madrid.</p>
<p>Socialistic, witch means what, nothing, I belived we where over that debated, Norway is so called social democratic but is been in wars for over 20 years, bombing nations, slaughtering civlians, incl making an killing in Yemen, thru Kongsberg and Raufoss, any one whom uses an 12.5 cal, multipurpouse amo, knows about Raufoss, etc to drones and yet, despite that, we are uh&#8230;.. humanistic, hallelujah and have the Nobels piss price on top of it.<br />
Hypocrits is just an mild describtion of the uh&#8230;.&#8221;vikings&#8221;.<br />
The truth is, Catalans, your self apointed ones are rotten to their core, not that I would engage in this hysterical reactions to the CONvid scam, but the fact that despite that I fully suport your fight, dont mean I suport your attacks on others, no way, but instead make it certain your own culture survives, and traditions, etc is solidly placed where it belongs in Catalonia and revive it to what it sould have been.</p>
<p>Again, I dont want to link, I skipped a lot of history about Catalans and the Basque to make this short, I may do that another time, but to the Catalans, you have to go back to your roots, and work your self back again to the present, and this second rate citizen is because of been subjugated by the Gov in Madrid for centurys, and treated like shit, and the worst thing you can do then is doing the same against others.</p>
<p>You have to get the independence, to move away from the MADrid Gov whom is going to destroy sPain, and their blatant hypocrasy, like in the western MSM, whines about Kiev while the sPain Gov uses rubber bulets against Catalans, yeah, but never ever apologise, never ever fall down to their level, be loud and proud, never give in nor give up.</p>
<p>peace</p>
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		By: Researcher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Researcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-324637&quot;&gt;Tsubion&lt;/a&gt;.

These are all planned crises, even the weather “anomalies“ unfortunately. The Rockefeller crime cartel manage the energy industry. The military and NASA manage the weather. 

There’s nothing actually wrong except when power lines come down. And that could be fixed with underground cables. They won’t install them because the Rockefeller crime cartel want to be able to use the weather as a weapon to push climate change measures in order to modify the behavior and attitudes of the populace and impoverish them. 

The ecosystem collapsing is Club of Rome spin from the 1960’s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-324637">Tsubion</a>.</p>
<p>These are all planned crises, even the weather “anomalies“ unfortunately. The Rockefeller crime cartel manage the energy industry. The military and NASA manage the weather. </p>
<p>There’s nothing actually wrong except when power lines come down. And that could be fixed with underground cables. They won’t install them because the Rockefeller crime cartel want to be able to use the weather as a weapon to push climate change measures in order to modify the behavior and attitudes of the populace and impoverish them. </p>
<p>The ecosystem collapsing is Club of Rome spin from the 1960’s.</p>
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		By: Galileus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Galileus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/16/pro-independence-parties-win-catalan-elections/#comment-324698&quot;&gt;Karry&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, indeed so sad and disappointing. But we can be happy we see through the con now.]]></description>
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<p>Yes, indeed so sad and disappointing. But we can be happy we see through the con now.</p>
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