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Culture, Self and Law

Darren Allen

This is an extract from Self and Unself, Darren Allen’s new ‘philosophy of all and everything’. Some of the terms herein — consciousness, self, ego, etc — may appear somewhat mysterious or abstract as they are explained in earlier sections of the book.

Self produces manifest culture, and then that culture shapes self. First, self is externalised as an expression — some kind of act or presentation. The expression appears as an object, a thing in the world, which is related to other objects, which are then reappropriated by man back into the self.

A band releases an album, a building company constructs a block of flats, an advertising agency puts up hoardings around town, an individual recounts a few anecdotes. The songs, the dwellings, the signs and the stories become part of a world which then shapes those within that world.

If self is unselfish this process ultimately begins “beyond” culture, with consciousness, to which the reappropriated modifications are subject to some kind of evaluation — I can reject the bullshit music, the ugly council estate, the advertising lies and the witless jibber-jabber.

If, however, self is fundamentally egoic, consciousness is given no freedom to operate, and the caddis case is formed almost entirely from without, walling up inner quality, and with it, genuine individuality.

First self speaks, then the words get set in stone, then the stone speaks to the self, writing its words back into the human heart, which speaks again.[1] If there is freedom to speak, and to be heard, and to walk away, this dialogue (or dialectic) is fruitful and serves man.

But, just as if one person screws another down and forces words into her head it is no longer a conversation, so if society (culture plus self, or selves) fills its schools and lines its streets with messages that all say the same thing, with no way of escape, then we are no longer individuals participating in a society, but stackable storage units for whomever or whatever is filling us with the things we are forced to feel, eat, look at, think about and energetically engage with; in short, build our selves with.

Culture was once built from nature, and, more intimately, from the unselfish origin of that which nature and culture have in common. This is why pre-civilised man considered nature and culture to be identical. The more culture came to be built from itself, the less it served the essence of man, until it came to compel man to accept its objective validity or suffer the consequences. Not in an overt tyrannical sense, but in the unalterable fact of its existence.

You can think away culture or pretend it doesn’t matter — ignore, say, the rules of language or pretend that they are dispensable, but you will be punished, mocked, excluded, brought back into line or killed. Likewise, if your social self is at odds with your individual self, then all kinds of problems are on their way. This does not mean that I must be something other than my social self, but that I am continually compelled to harmonise the two, and if I can’t — if I cannot be in the world who I feel I really am—then I will suffer in the world, as everyone who is honest does.

Ego keeps this suffering at bay by endlessly affirming its social self. As that most unreal and egoic of sources, the average Teevee-American has it, ‘I am a cop, it’s what I do…’ ‘I am a mother, it’s what I do…’ Or, alternatively, ‘This is my town, these are my people’.

Such a ‘self’ is not something which is invented, it is there, ‘inside me’. I look inside and see that I am the cop or mother that society takes me to be (or, for the fake outsider, that I wish society to take me to be). And I have no desire to be anything else. Not that there is anything wrong with inhabiting a role, nor with identifying with a community, nor that there aren’t always elements of self that do not fit into what is required by the social world; rather that ego hides from itself in its social representation.

Man may be psychologically and spiritually deformed by his activity within the egoic group or institution, he may work in a mechanical manner, in mediated environments, in order to produce or manage things which have no recognisable human meaning, and he may be forced to conceal his horror and disgust behind an upbeat mask of emotional management, but if there is no truth beyond a self-constructed from the group, he will defend his deformity, and consequent duplicity and misery, as truth.

All criticisms of the group are taken to be criticisms of the self — ‘I am mortally offended by your prejudice’ — and all criticisms of the self are taken to be prejudice against the group — ‘It’s not because you are repulsed by my moral deformity, it’s because you are racist/homophobic/anti-white/anti-American etc’.

The seamless unity of self and society in the egoic mind explains man’s total blindness to systemic constraints, and to the fundamental paradigms of the system. They are one with his ego, which is why, today for example, man spends so much time thinking and talking about voting, about reforming teaching, about having fairer laws, about creating cleaner motorways and so on and so forth; but not a word on how disabling democracy is, or education, or law, or transport, or the encompassing system, which is as invisible to him as water is to a fish, or anger is to a van driver.

*

The social self and its inner component, the personality, are maintained through communication, through constant confirmation (either explicit or implied) of who I am to others. When there is nobody to validate my personality, it dies, which is why solitude is so necessary to people with character — who need to periodically let their personality wither away in winter so that spring life might grow—and so terrifying to people without character, who must exist in a constant stress of forced blooming for the world.

Likewise, if a critical avenue of personality-confirming communication is permanently disrupted—if a lover leaves, or a mother dies, or self is forced to live in another country, cut off from its culture—the whole world crumbles. The egoic self, forged through the shared reality created with a partner, a family or a society, is ripped out.

This is why people stay in abusive relations and in abusive societies. Leaving the objective world of the known is to be plunged into chaos, a fate worse than death for ego, which may even choose death in preference.

Loss of self-reinforcing dialogue is not just a threat to the individual self, but to the social body, which provides all kinds of ritualised means by which the disrupted self is expected to deal with its disarray and return soothed and placated to the ‘normal’ world. A spouse torn apart by the death of a partner is fine, we can accept and sympathise; but if the grief is too noisy or outstays its welcome, then the social world will take measures to exclude it, quarantine the infection as it were, and remove conspicuous misery from the scene, so that production and consumption can smoothly proceed.[2]

For the same reason, madness, bizarre dreams and visions, psychotropic intoxication, spiritual extremism and all other exits from the system—including literally leaving it to gad off into the forest—are to be bricked up, or, if that’s not possible, managed by society, which deals with the void by projecting a screen of rationalisations onto it.[3] Your visionary dream was a message from Satan, or a repressed desire, or a random brain signal, your glorious experience of the fundamental oneness of creation was a message from Allah, or a crazed illusion, or confirmation of your status as our Mystic Cham.

All of these validations are gratefully taken up by the ego, which cannot bear to be cut off, alone (or alone with unself), and prefers to masochistically submit itself to The Worldview — or, on behalf of that world, to sadistically control others — rather than have to face any kind of reality beyond the boundaries of the social known.

Just as society is threatened by loss of face and loss of reason, so it must also deal with the danger of men and women rebelling against their internalised role; finding, for example, that being a nice obedient little wife, or the upwardly-mobile manager of a car-rental firm, is something of a burden, and that they’d rather be members of a non-stop erotic cabaret or hunting-and-gathering in Botswana.

It’s fine for a man to masturbate to high-budget porn, or for a woman to spend a month on safari, but to actually do something about their dreams, particularly the genuinely wild ones, is out of the question, and again, if substitutes are not functioning, the machinery of social meaning must step in to make sure such desires are suppressed or channelled into something ‘productive’, or at least that the dreamer is reminded that if they are not, he can expect to pay an horrendously high price to realise them.

*

The most potent and pervasive threat to selfish society is not in this or that criticism, loss or disruption, but in consciousness itself; which is everywhere and at all times. Consciousness must therefore be continually suppressed, and man’s relation to it, to ever-present unselfish quality, continually managed.

This is largely done, on a social level, through laws, legitimations, taboos and totems. These are the rules of society — the ‘walls’ of cliched thought, feeling, sensation and activity — which range from everyday non-verbal norms of behaviour (we greet in such and such a way, we react to bad news in such and such a way), through more explicit linguistic formulations of what is right and proper (the shared ethics of society, encoded in its wisdom, its maxims, its proverbs and even its jokes), through the art, myths and folk tales of a culture (by which we learn what is appropriate or tasteful, and what is to be condemned), through the explicit legal codes of a civilisation or of its various institutions, up to, finally, the various sacred justifications or secular theories which explain, in the most abstract sense, why things are as they are.

Although all these legitimations are constantly in conflict, they work as a whole to order men and women’s responses to their own conscious impulses and the context they find themselves in. In a selfless society, these ‘orders’ are soft guidelines (or, if you prefer, flexible human laws) — useful and necessary, but fluid, and at the service of the individual.

In an egoic society, the individual must serve the laws, legitimations and taboos. If he breaks them — if he smiles when he should frown, does what the gods say never to do, questions evolution, utters the magical ‘n’ word or sends a magnet in the post — he’ll be punished.

Note that men and women must be continually reminded of these justifications and continually enjoined to affirm their commitment to them, just as communities of belief must be continually reinforced and protected. Human beings are never far away from their original nature, and easily forget what has been programmed into them from without.

This is why ritualised laws of defilement, containment of outsiders (physical or ideological), and, above all, walling off experiences of unreality (dream, madness, apostatic transcendence, death and love; even taking a shit puts one outside the bounds of history and religion and must be legitimately dealt with) play such an important, ongoing role in all ideological systems.

Today, in the West, continual reinforcement takes the form of constant affirmations of the goodness and rightness of a highly invasive, technocratic, global market-economy and of constant reminders that without the various ideological totems required to engage in it—tolerance, respect, pacifistic acceptance, keeping two meters apart from one’s fellows and keeping your trousers on in the supermarket—everything would fall apart and we’d all drown in a flood of anarcho-fascism, or die of a medieval lurgy, or be overwhelmed by the Beast.

If it looks like these reminders aren’t taking hold, then their intensity is stepped up and penalties for contravention escalate and intensify until you get your mind right.

Laws, legitimations, taboos and totems, being self-justifying and self-created, are entirely causal. The notion of law is coterminous with the notion of causality; a non-causal law is a contradiction in terms. In reality there are, ultimately, no laws in nature, in consciousness or in human affairs, because there is, ultimately, no causality in them; the world today was no more caused by the world yesterday than the morning was caused by the night before.

The laws we find in history (e.g. Hegel’s or Marx’s), or in nature (e.g. Aristotle’s or Newton’s), or in society (e.g. Confucius’ or Comte’s), or in consciousness (e.g. Leibniz’s or Freud’s), are products of self, and therefore only applicable to self; occasionally useful, as facts and causes are, but with zero qualitative truth.

The truth of an individual or society moving through ‘time’, like that of a tree, like the meaning of an act or the essence of reality, are invisible to causal consideration, which can only perceive a tumult of interrelated bits and pieces, slices and sections, and shrink-wrapped events, never the whole; which means it can never give an appropriate response to the whole (except by accident) which becomes impossible as soon as laws are set, and [directly or indirectly] enforced.

This is why people without direct experience of reality, isolated from it by money, power, fame, technology or drugs, rely on laws and legitimations, and give them the same existential status as experience. When it comes to right or wrong, for example, they cannot trust their experience, because they do not have experience, and so they cleave to factual-casual calculation.

Property is inviolable, therefore stealing is wrong; a man steals an apple, therefore he must be punished, no matter how wealthy the supermarket he steals from. Context — the history of the supermarket, the functioning of the market, the state of society — and consciousness — compassion for the man, empathic understanding of his life — cannot be allowed into consideration. To do so would disrupt one’s entire life.

The brutal inflexibility of the law-abider is sometimes seen as a ‘lack of imagination’, but imagination is part of the abstract schema that the law-maker appeals to, the series of ideas codified as The Law; it is wrong to lie, it is wrong to kill, it is wrong to steal.

When these ideas harden into eternal truths — when, in the management phase of civilisation, they are codified or written down, in holy texts or in statute books, or in the consciences of men and women — they serve, and can only serve, that which is incapable of abandoning facticity and causality, the inherently dishonest, selfish and violent ego. This is why you can’t trust a law-abider.

Self and Unself is available in the usual places, and on Darren Allen’s bookshop.

Notes:-

[1] Peter Berger and Thomas Luckman, The Social Construction of Reality.[back]

[2] Ernest Goffman, The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life.[back]

[3] Peter Berger, The Sacred Canopy.[back]

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RobG
RobG
May 10, 2021 8:11 PM

I was banging on about this yesterday on another board: humans are the only creatures on this planet that are acutely aware of their own mortality (although creatures like elephants have been observed to mourn their dead).

Everything stems from this acute awareness of death: narcissism, extremism, religion and all the rest.

It’s a big club, and I’m afraid we’re all in it, however much you might try to intellectualise it.

wardropper
wardropper
May 10, 2021 9:40 PM
Reply to  RobG

Fortunately, not everybody succumbs.
Mozart had some very touching words to say about death in a letter to his father, and he hadn’t even hit middle age. It’s an unusual, but interesting take from a beautiful soul:

“As death, strictly speaking, is the goal of our lives, I have for some years past been making myself so familiar with this truest and best friend of man that its aspect has not only ceased to appal me, but I find it very soothing and comforting! And I thank my God that he has vouchsafed me the happiness of an opportunity … to recognise it as the key to our true bliss.
I never lie down to sleep without reflecting that, young as I am (he was 31), I may perhaps not see another day—yet none of those who know me can say I am morose or melancholy in society—and I thank my Creator every day for this happiness and wish from the bottom of my heart that all my fellow men might share it.”

Ort
Ort
May 10, 2021 10:23 PM
Reply to  wardropper

This brings to mind a Virgil Fox concert at the Philadelphia Academy of Music I attended decades ago; I can’t even vaguely remember the date.

I do remember Fox introducing his signature version of J.S. Bach’s “Komm, süßer Tod, komm selge Ruh” (“Come, sweet death, come blessed quiet”), and pointing out that in contemporary US/Western culture the concept of death having redeeming qualities was largely offensive or inappropriate– generally, death had become an evil to fear and deny.

George Mc
George Mc
May 10, 2021 9:14 AM

9/11 was a precursor to covid in so many ways. One way is in demonstrating how psy-ops work. And the most crucial point of a psy-op is the “shock and awe” initiation. This is the point where basic outlooks are formed. It is as if people can be imagined as trains set on tracks. Once a train has been assigned to a track it is very difficult to get off that track. The initiation point may be thought of as the voice that says, “In the beginning…” after which the manipulators push whatever they’re trying to sell. 

Also, the Left, being committed to a materialist viewpoint seem to be spectacularly ill equipped to deal with psychological manipulation – which makes them easy targets of such manipulation.

And the initiation moment for the Left was the notion that covid was a threat to capitalism and that capitalism was ill equipped to deal with this threat. Everything follows on from that: the restrictions never went far enough, the lockdowns were never severe enough, the politicians (enslaved to pushing up the profit margin) were utterly impotent and indeed a liability in the face of covid etc.

Thus the Left envisages the ideal response: total lockdown, total cessation of all social and economic life, everyone confined to their houses whilst teams of doctors worked on a vaccine (like one of those old Star Trek episodes where Dr McCoy always comes up with the great solution comfortably within the episode).

And so, the Left gleefully swallowed the tales of escalating figures without going into the details much, they salivated over the coming doom which demanded the worst possible scenarios etc.

And that is their “In the beginning”, it is the track they are on. And they ain’t getting off it.

les online
les online
May 10, 2021 1:54 AM

1). Greed in its fullest sense is the only possible basis of communist society.
2). The present forms of greed lose out, because they turn out to be not greedy enough.
3). The repression of egoism can never totally succeed, except as the destruction of human subjectivity, the extinction of the human species itself, because egoism is an essential moment of human subjectivity. Its repression simply means that it returns in a hidden, duplicitous form. If it cannot show itself in the open market, it will find itself or create for itself a black market. If it is not tolerated in transparent relations, the repressed self will split in two; into a represented self, a personal organisation of appearances, a persona ,and that which cringes and plots behind this character armour. The repression of egoism, contrary to the dictates of every one of the so-called “Communists” ( in opposition to Marx & Engels), from Lenin right down to Mao, can never be the basis of communist society.
Moreover, the repressive conception of “communism” misses precisely the whole point. It misses out on the validity of the egoistic moment. This is true even in the inverted form in which it emerges from an immanent critique of altruistic ideology: if i die. the world dies for me. Without life, i cannot love another. However, what it misses in “theory” – ie, in its ideological representations – it nonetheless preserves in practice, and precisely with the help of that very ideology: its real basis is the egoism of the state-capitalist bureaucracy. This ideology of self-sacrifice serves admirably the task of extracting surplus-labour from the proletariat.
The actual negation of narrow egoism is a matter of transcendence, of the transition from a narrow to a qualitatively expanded form of egoism. The original self-expansion of egoism was identically the demise of the primitive community. But its further self-expansion will resolve itself into a community once again. It is only when greed itself at last (or rather, once again) beckons in the direction of community that that direction will be taken. Here the ancient Christian truth that no earthly force can withstand human greed rejoins us on our side of the barricades.
4). It was the struggle over their growing wealth which rent asunder the early tribal and village communities. The elaboration of the patriarchal pattern, the growth of exchange-relations, of usury, debt-slavery, and war can all be traced to this. It is only when the same motive which originally occasioned this dissolution of community calls for its reconstitution that community can be constituted again. And this motive is, simply, the struggle for a richer life. For only that motive is irresistible: only that motive – greed – can undo its own work. It is only when that same subjective moment, through the historical deepening of its own possibility, turns against its own present objectification – in a word, capital (capitalist private property, privative appropriation; that is, privatization, exclusion – “society” as an association of strangers, of estrangement – in short, the totality of alienation) -that the threshold of the great transformation is reached. And the struggle of this new subjectivity against the previous objectification (global capitalist society; in a word, capital), the process of the negation of objectification IS the communist revolution. (The Right to be Greedy – 1974)

Arby
Arby
May 10, 2021 9:31 AM
Reply to  les online

Really? Anti-communist ranting? Sheesh! Communism has zero to do with the covid 19 pandemic hoax.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
May 10, 2021 10:16 AM
Reply to  Arby

and …
” Greed in its fullest sense is the only possible basis of communist society.”
wtf?!

Ooink
Ooink
May 10, 2021 11:45 AM
Reply to  Arby

It has shitloads to do with it

Arby
Arby
May 10, 2021 1:22 PM
Reply to  Ooink

I’ve posted this link before and suspect that some here who do nonsense anti-communist ranting have seen my essay and don’t really care about the facts. If I’m wrong, please see my essay titled “The Origin Of Anti-Communist Ranting.” I just can’t see how an honest person, looking at the historical facts, could conclude that anti-communist ranting is anything other than dumb. I think that anti-communist ranting is either malicious (deliberate and there to create confusion) or utterly stupid.

mgeo
mgeo
May 10, 2021 5:09 PM
Reply to  Arby

You are being too logical. The comment is just a propaganda tactic of trying to be loud and vociferous in tarnishing the enemy. It is capitalist greed that is blowing up the planet. As Caitlin Johnstone said, there is no such thing as the wrong (and right) kind of capitalism.

This is not support of communism.

Ooink
Ooink
May 10, 2021 8:40 PM
Reply to  Arby

Don’t get so hung up on words. The Kovid con is about a lot of things. One is collectivism…socialism…communism…authoritarianism…all the same round about things. We’re all in this together, after all haha.

F.M. Harder
F.M. Harder
May 11, 2021 12:48 AM
Reply to  Arby

You’re goddam right I’m going to rant against communism — just as much as I rant against capitalism.

Once you’ve had sufficient experience, you abandon the utopian dreams of both the academics *and* the playboys, of communism and libertarianism, and their idiotic assumptions about human nature and steady-state systems. Instead, you focus on real-time handling of hybrid, dynamic, unpredictable systems that need constant shepherding — the ones that actually exist in the real world.

I am a Leftist*. I took a semester-long college course on communism. I remember learning how “communism” was first implemented through Lenin’s “vanguard”. (To say Lenin’s theory on this — and the general concept, regardless of attribution — did not affect the subsequent course of the 20th century “communist” governments would be silly.)

The vanguard implements a “temporary” totalitarianism, because the “proles” are allegedly incapable of leading themselves without the aid of those, well, you know, who claw their way to the top of the political food chain, although of course not defined that way. So, in practice, the vanguard are those sociopaths who can’t give two shits about the actual powerless, and so make it through the rough-and-tumble into the vanguard. More importantly, we all know how this turned out for whole societies: We now have dozens of cases and mountains of undeniable evidence. Stalin laid a base, Mao devolved into “cultural revolution”. I guess Pol Pot was the purified cherry-on-top.

Your essay is mainly about 20th century geopolitics. Not much actual communism discussed in there — just all the lying poseurs around the world spouting their approved brands, NONE of which they actually believe in, and their talent at spinning tales. It’s what they do.

You don’t mention the word “vanguard” once in your essay. Why not?

——
*To me, Leftism means nothing more and nothing less than prirotizing equalities over freedoms, however implemented. Democracy is by definition the ultimate expression of equality. It is the polar opposite of forcing uncontestable “truths” by self-selected brats and players and tyrants down people’s throats.

rubberheid
rubberheid
May 10, 2021 5:21 PM
Reply to  Ooink

ooink, you mean it’s sick parody version, the one where generations of socialist/commie turn into uber-capitilsto-consumer cunts obsessed with tokens and their display of tokens through malicious avarice, and relative comfort; their souls hollowed out. I agree, but that wasn’t the original audience.

Binra
Binra
May 9, 2021 9:06 PM

The territory is never the map. So the practice of interior awareness is the basis in which consciousness Re-cognises.

I read this recently – it felt relevant to the hijack of our Right Mind by fear:

I am at home. Fear is the stranger here.

Fear is a stranger to the ways of love.

Identify with fear, and you will be a stranger to yourself.

And thus you are unknown to you.

What is your Self remains an alien to the part of you which thinks that it is real, but different from yourself.

Who could be sane in such a circumstance?

Who but a madman could believe he is what he is not, and judge against himself?

There is a stranger in our midst, who comes from an idea so foreign to the truth he speaks a different language, looks upon a world truth does not know, and understands what truth regards as senseless.

Stranger yet, he does not recognize to whom he comes, and yet maintains his home belongs to him, while he is alien now who is at home.

And yet, how easy it would be to say, “This is my home.

Here I belong, and will not leave because a madman says I must.”

What reason is there for not saying this?

What could the reason be except that you had asked this stranger in to take your place, and let you be a stranger to yourself?

No one would let himself be dispossessed so needlessly, unless he thought there were another home more suited to his tastes.

Who is the stranger?

Is it fear or you who are unsuited to the home which God provided for His Son?

Is fear His Own, created in His likeness?

Is it fear that love completes, and is completed by?

There is no home can shelter love and fear.

They cannot coexist.

If you are real, then fear must be illusion.

And if fear is real, then you do not exist at all.

How simply, then, the question is resolved.

Who fears has but denied himself and said, “I am the stranger here.

And so I leave my home to one more like me than myself, and give him all I thought be- longed to me.”

Now is he exiled of necessity, not knowing who he is, uncertain of all things but this; that he is not himself, and that his home has been denied to him.

What does he search for now?

What can he find?

A stranger to himself can find no home wherever he may look, for he has made return impossible.

His way is lost, except a miracle will search him out and show him that he is no stranger now.

The miracle will come.

For in his home his Self remains.

from Lesson 160 of A Course in Miracles

George Mc
George Mc
May 9, 2021 7:56 PM

The phoney permissible Left bases its wretched pseudo-radicalism on the idea that the rulers are incompetent and stupid. But it’s not too difficult to figure out how the wealthy and powerful think. All you have to do is to imagine you are one of them and ask: “What would I do?”

So, you have wealth and power. You are not going to give it away. You are going to make damn sure you keep it and, if possible, extend it. And by “you” I don’t just mean you individually. You may have pushed your way up. You may have been born into power. But there is a system there mainly created with the input of you and your class.

You face competition on two levels: horizontal competition from your peers and vertical competition from the class below you. And the capitalist system is the most dynamic i.e. volatile system there has ever been. It’s exciting. It’s also potentially fatal to you and to your class since it leads to crises and there is potential revolution i.e. the masses may get a bit uppity.

Furthermore, as more and more of your peers get squeezed out in this cutthroat game, your numbers dwindle, which is nice since it means both more power for you and also makes organisation and co-operation easier with your diminishing peers.

And the very instability of the system pushes you to become a bit more …. creative in your solutions – a bit more audacious.

But the most fundamental matter is that you are always looking out for threats from others.You must watch everything. And you must have your fingers in everything.

None of this means you are infallible. Nor does it mean you have unlimited power. But one thing is for sure: there is no way that you would become lackadaisical i.e. stupid. Those who are stupid rarely get to your level. and if they do, they don’t last long. But of course, it is a most excellent defence system to encourage the masses to think you’re stupid. And if it is one of the “radical movements” that is encouraging the masses to laugh at your “idiocy” then that’s even better!

Enter the conspiracy phobic, self-congratulating, self-blinding phoney Left.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 8:09 PM
Reply to  George Mc

There is a REAL left and, once the bottom falls out of this hyper-capitalist monopoly economy, you’re going to see it again, just like during the 1890s and 1930s.

F.M. Harder
F.M. Harder
May 10, 2021 12:15 AM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Communists must drop vanguardism if they want to be relevant.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 10, 2021 12:36 AM
Reply to  F.M. Harder

I guess so but I’m not a communist.

F.M. Harder
F.M. Harder
May 10, 2021 2:08 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

OK, fine, there is a real left… somewhere. But it had better be a democratic one.

Democracy means one must live with the results. Even when the vanguard gets real squeamish about them.

Arby
Arby
May 10, 2021 9:32 AM
Reply to  F.M. Harder

Who are you talking about? Communists are almost non existent, so why are you going on about them?

F.M. Harder
F.M. Harder
May 10, 2021 2:03 PM
Reply to  Arby

Is there a group of people who want to save us by imposing a “truth” which cannot be questioned, and a government which cannot be challenged — ostensibly with the goal of equal treatment for all — by vacuuming up low-information supporters to their cause? Same attitude, same effects, different words.

Arby
Arby
May 10, 2021 2:08 PM
Reply to  F.M. Harder

I think that the answer to your question is ‘yes’. I’m not sure what you meant by the last sentence however.

F.M. Harder
F.M. Harder
May 11, 2021 10:51 PM
Reply to  Arby

I meant that TPTB in the West have lately devolved to allowing Leninist-style vanguard groups to flagrantly ignore popular will, and force the consequences of their assumed “truths” and moral “correctness” on the populations. These groups are frequently identified as “the Left”, both by themselves and the (self-identified) Right. If you agree with me these are not the Left, I’m good with that.

Peter
Peter
May 9, 2021 11:29 PM
Reply to  George Mc

If you are super rich you get your third cousin Karl to lead the proletariat opposition. Problem solved.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 9, 2021 7:39 PM

Whilst, I admit, I only skim read this piece by Darren Allen, I found some of the responses to it in the comment section, and links from this, and the thing about internet security, and anonymity very interesting. I have to admit, whilst I was heavily programmed with religion from birth until the age of 15, when I rejected it, to only have a side interest in philosophy, whilst the brief time I was at university (I had to chooses a side subject – completely unrelated to physics and maths), and I also did a weekly evening course in Practical Philosophy, when I had a good job. That didn’t have the desired result either. I was still much too shy.

So more recently, about 10 years ago, I bought and read very slowly, about 3 pages a night as my book at bedtime most of “The Power of Now : A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment” by Echart Tolle

I found it extremely effective, at sending me to sleep.

I thought the comment by magumba May 9, 2021 3:07 PM , one of the best at Off_G.

I admit I have used that technique too, but it took her at least one minute, to work out, whether or not , I was paying her a compliment, or being somewhat offensive.

She was annoying everyone, and is still a good friend.

Tony

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 9, 2021 9:19 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

Comment is free here

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 9, 2021 10:23 PM
Reply to  Dr. Sok

I have never paid to comment.

George Mc
George Mc
May 9, 2021 7:20 PM

So TV news delivers the final insult: we are allowed to hug each other again. Infantilisation complete!

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 10, 2021 10:27 AM
Reply to  George Mc

It might not be a good idea to hug the vaxxed. I’ve heard of some seriously dark energy coming off them.

MaryLS
MaryLS
May 10, 2021 2:48 PM
Reply to  Peter Sky

Is that your perception, or is it something you have read? I am seriously concerned about this. My husband got vaxxed, despite my concerns. My sense is that he is somewhat down ever since, but it could be lockdowns.

Richard Miller
Richard Miller
May 9, 2021 5:53 PM

I’ve never heard of Darren Allan before but from the snippet offered here, his thinking reminds me of the gist of G Gurdjieff’s writings, particular his An Objectively Impartial Criticism of the Life of Man, published in 1950.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 9, 2021 5:27 PM

Don’t overthink. Kakistocracy is a full and adequate explanation.

One example of why people are bamboozled.

Microsoft was never intended to work. Yet you will encounter dozens of trolls who insist you are the problem cos you dare to complain.

These trolls are paid by Microsoft and by companies like Google that sell reputation protection services.

Does the CIA or NSA use the same sorry software you call your neighbors round to fix?

A quick search shows they use entirely different systems.

So why don’t you!

Cost. Availability. Connections. Knowledge. Your network.

But just reverse the logic. Clearly the state and corporations don’t rely on the same shity software as you. Why?

You think The Fourth Industrial Revolution is going to run on Microsoft Windows?

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 9, 2021 6:05 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Cost. Availability. Connections. Knowledge.

https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
May 9, 2021 5:14 PM

Today in Canada.

Canadian Pastor Artor Pawlowski dragged off the street in Canada today for the crime of opening his church on a Sunday. In a country where you can buy booze, marijuana, shop in Walmart or Costco but to worship Christ with fellow Christians gets you taken off to jail.

HighImpact has the goods.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 9, 2021 5:45 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

“If only Daddy (Adolf) could see his boy now. He would be so proud.”
comment image

“Heil Trudeau!”
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“Eugenics and Corporate Fascism Forever!”

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 9, 2021 6:03 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Trudeau is more of a communist.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 9, 2021 6:12 PM
Reply to  Thom1111

“Red Baiting? Cut from the same commie pinko mold as that old comrade, JD Rockefeller, himself. Yeah Right.

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 9, 2021 7:01 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Yeah, wrong

gordan
gordan
May 9, 2021 10:13 PM
Reply to  Thom1111

cultural marxist of zion
his mom was a whore his dad fidel
his step dad a freak not unlike ted heath tory blair leon britain or greville janner lord mcalpine
controlled freaks all

Peter
Peter
May 9, 2021 11:51 PM
Reply to  Thom1111

He is kept afloat by the bootlegging Bronfman family. They were involved in the Lindbergh kidnapping and the JFK hit.

MaryLS
MaryLS
May 10, 2021 2:57 PM
Reply to  Peter

Never heard of Bronfmans being involved in either of those incidents, but I have researched both, and would like to know more. Can you provide more info? The Lindbergh kidnapping is much forgotten these days, but I think it is an early example of killing, and manipulation by the elite cabal. Lindbergh was a threat to their power. He had to be sidelined.

wardropper
wardropper
May 10, 2021 9:50 PM
Reply to  Thom1111

Said nobody – ever.

You must be very young to think a ridiculously over-indulged prat could behave like a communist…
It’s better to stick to meaningful words, rather than hollow political labels:
He’s a piece of crap.

Arcabuz
Arcabuz
May 10, 2021 11:32 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Hahaha keep helping the enemy. Throw curtains of smoke and squid ink. Precisely those who have created the cononavirus are those who won the war and staunch enemies of those uniforms that you portray well. Not you, not me, don’t be offended. The elite. Yes, the one that won the war. But you, as a child, believe the same lies that validate the virus. Do you think they have deceived you? Think about it, but in the meantime, you can continue playing childishly at saying that the ugly is the murderer. And with this I do not mean that they are not terrible, well, they were those of the uniform, but let’s be serious now. Bread and Circus.

Arby
Arby
May 10, 2021 1:24 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

We are looking at Nazis, who were fascists. But these discussions, on Off Guardian, are riddled with dumb statements about evil communists. Go figure.

wardropper
wardropper
May 10, 2021 10:30 PM
Reply to  Arby

Once people start rabbiting on about ‘socialists’ and ‘communists’, we know where their headquarters are.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 9, 2021 5:53 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

original video:

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 9, 2021 7:03 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

“The Scamdemic Gestapo just channeling their inner Himmlers. One possible way to deal with the situation is to get home addresses and give them other concerns.”

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 9, 2021 9:30 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

Everyone else passively participates in group drive by.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 10, 2021 1:46 PM
Reply to  Dr. Sok

one guy came by on a bicycle and called them nazis.

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 7:23 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

The pigs are disgusting alright, no question. But it would be foolish to expect anything else than what they’re doing from them. It would take extraordinary integrity and bravery to tell the police chief to go fuck himself, which none of these boys will do for 1000+1 reasons, and if they did, the chief pig would send somebody else.

What worries me more than these android-like automatons is the people higher up in the government who actively push this fascism. Not necessarily the top politicians like Trudeau, you wouldn’t expect them to be anything but prime time assholes, but the people in between. I’ve seen videos of apparatchik vigilantes that were truly sickening. These people are completely brainwashed/braindead. They believe in what they’re pushing, think it’s good, and they’re willing to roll over dead bodies to achieve it.

gordan
gordan
May 9, 2021 10:06 PM
Reply to  Jacques

what do you expect
this is roman law civil juris

policy breach
contract breach
you babble with cop you contract
reserve your rights or you do not have any
ignorance of the law is not an excuse
without prejudice
under duress
if rights are reserved and you do not contract
if you always always never understand
never consent
then a contract cannot exist
canuck aussie dutch land and many other places are private owned corporations
police deal in contracts as do the courts
deny them jurisdiction
never understand do not create joinder
do not give name address tel number
reserve your rights

under duress without prejudice

all rights reserved

Ooink
Ooink
May 10, 2021 9:46 AM
Reply to  gordan

I always thought regarding “ignorance of the law is not an excuse” is quite the slap in the face. After all, who are you, other than a giant organisation with a big stick, to decree law? From there on it all depends on what kind of day big John Law’s been having whether you get a rap on the knuckles, a large fine or a trip to the chair. Denying ‘them’ jurisdiction won’t get you far if you’ve just shot granny in the face with a glock. You’re going down the river, son. And from there the rest comes…in a shop with no mask on? ‘Twas our law didn’t you know? That’ll be half your weeks pay in fines, sonny. Next!

gordan
gordan
May 10, 2021 10:28 PM
Reply to  Ooink

balls sir balls
no understand no consent
no contract
no joinder

international maritime contract is needed
those are the ucc rules in bankrupt nations
1666 uk
1933 usa
you understand
donte ya

Peter
Peter
May 9, 2021 11:34 PM
Reply to  Jacques

The Bronfman family fund Castreau.

swami
swami
May 9, 2021 7:29 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

Lets try and think rather than be another Conspiratards are just as dumb as The Sheeple i say worse,

Easter Sunday & full moon Scorpio
OMG it a new moon period today!!
what are the chances of this fake ass pastor and other pastors all over the world getting arrested during this period??
think about that rather than be another Conspiratard.
Election season ritual season your being played big time.
Change the pastor for Moslem / immigrate go back to 2015 same psyop the same Conspiratards posting this shit. Donate now wil be next for his lawyers fee’s.
Christian west is under attack, god loving people a pastor man of cloth arrested
fuck of with this horseshit ‘to call it a psyop is disrespectful towards psyop ‘

surely its not election rituals season in Canada OMG it is.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
May 9, 2021 8:53 PM
Reply to  swami

The Christian east west wherever is very much under attack. Look at what happened just the other day in Uxbridge. A Christian street preacher manhandled and dragged away in cuffs for having the temerity to preach God’s word. Was that a conspiracy?

This has been happening for a long time but now it is overt in the west rather than quietly happening to the coptics in Egypt or Christians in China or Nigeria where everyone can pretend its not really happening.

What did you think was going to happen when a bunch of Satanists got to take over the world? That Christians and Christianity would all just get along fine? This is happening because this is the beginning of the times we have been warned about. Their is a war on Christianity and its going to get worse. A lot worse.

Not everything is a psyop or conspiracy theory.

Peter
Peter
May 9, 2021 11:38 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

Christianity, Islam and Marxism spring from a common root. All of them support the scamdemic. Of course it doesn’t matter now. The banksters rule. Hindu India is now Israel’s staunchest ally.

swami
swami
May 10, 2021 3:34 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

u wil never get it as you missed the point so run along donate now!
get outraged by staged TV 
get juiced and watch the same video in a different format next month and repeat

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 9, 2021 10:40 PM
Reply to  swami

Under attack by godless commies for sure. How much is Trudeau under China control is the question everybody should be asking by now.

Peter
Peter
May 9, 2021 11:53 PM
Reply to  Thom1111

China is under bankster control.

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 10, 2021 4:43 AM
Reply to  Peter

Every country is ruled directly or indirectly by banksters. The ccp has infiltrated Canada on all levels. Especially telling with crackdowns on Christianity.

swami
swami
May 10, 2021 3:36 PM
Reply to  Thom1111

get outraged by staged TV

get juiced and watch the same video in a different format next month and repeat

BUT do remember very important to donate for his lawyers fee or when he appears ion tucker Carson saying he is censored

!

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
May 9, 2021 10:12 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

Gestapic agents of enforcement pursuing the oppressive dictats of their despotic masters, without question – why am I not surprised…Are dealing with inhuman instruments of perversity…a gang of uniformed vacuity – so what is surprising, is that they continue to be imagined otherwise, and treated so… that there, being the tru danger.

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 9, 2021 10:42 PM
Reply to  Doctortrinate

Communist agents of enforcement…

Timothy Madden
Timothy Madden
May 10, 2021 8:24 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

Seventy-six years ago, at the end of WWII, we in Canada were fewer than 12 million people in possession of about 1/10th of the world’s broadly-defined diverse natural resources. Today we have an embarrassing level of widespread poverty.

I have more than adequately, and in good faith, traced our current situation back to the 1990 ratification by the Supreme Court of Canada, of a unanimous decision of a panel of ex-bank-lawyers calling themselves the Ontario Court of Appeal, that criminal / racketeering offences committed by financial corporations are not illegal, because the criminal law only provides that offenders will be “severely punished”, but does not otherwise directly state: “Don’t do it”.

The legal system then went crazy endorsing, ratifying, and expanding the core new principle of criminal and racketeering but not illegal. They also “tied up the loose ends” by declaring that henceforth the former-bank-lawyers who had been directly appointed as judges by the former bank-lawyer occupying the prime minister’s office at any given time, that they will take the civil and criminal law “under advisement” but the law itself is henceforth a “guideline” for the judges to exercise their new “on-the-fly-legislative-powers” according to their own opinions concerning:

“The serious consequences of invalidating the [criminal] contract, the social utility of those consequences, and a determination of the class of persons for whom the [criminal] prohibition was enacted…”

If that does not cause the hair on the back of your neck to stand up, then you are not paying attention.

There is a direct fascist-line between the banker/lawyer/judges ruling in 1990 that criminal acts by financial corporations are not illegal, and Pastor Pawlowski being dragged off the street in 2021.

http://werex.org/why-are-you-poor/ [renamed What happened to the $10 trillion?]

Howard
Howard
May 9, 2021 4:34 PM

I believe Darren Allen has pretty well nailed the psychopath here. If someone has absolutely no identity except for their social identity, therefore nothing whatsoever that does not relate to others – then that person has never existed, will never exist and cannot exist as a self-aware entity; only as a self-conscious entity. A psychopath.

Derek Williams
Derek Williams
May 9, 2021 4:48 PM
Reply to  Howard

100% -right on the money Howard.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
May 10, 2021 5:52 PM
Reply to  Howard

That also covers most normies then, particularly normie women in my experience.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
May 9, 2021 4:26 PM

I wrote this poem for my son, I think it’s quite relevant here.

Dance to your own tune,
sing your own song,
tell your truth and do not care,
when they tell you that you’re wrong.

Do not be told to smile,
when circumstance dictates
that sadness is more relevant,
regardless of the date.

Do not be sold a dream,
for your own dreams are free,
do not buy your image,
just be who you want to be.

Marvel at the beauty,
of the whole that we are part of,
for love is Universal,
and let that be the start of

every day that you awake,
as absurd as the last,
take all in jest and never fear,
because death comes round so fast.

A certainty for all who live,
beyond a man’s control,
don’t be afraid, think for yourself,
you’ll be one contented soul.

Loverat
Loverat
May 9, 2021 5:20 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Really nice poem.

Ponies
Ponies
May 9, 2021 7:50 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Beautiful. Thank you for sharing!

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
May 9, 2021 8:18 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Lovely

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 9, 2021 4:25 PM

Well… I “thought” this was a well constructed article, so it must have been a well constructed article to the the thing I called my self… (Past tense)

I’ve read a fair number of such meanderings over the years, and there are truths to be found in such meanderings… I’m not the first to point out the not very subtle differences between human “beings” and human “doings”.

Human beings live in the present moment.
Human doings have no time to live…

Darren Allen
Darren Allen
May 9, 2021 3:47 PM

I must apologise to those people who find this piece heavy-going. In the context of the book it is extracted from it is easier to understand, but not much easier; for two reasons. Firstly, the book addresses some extremely subtle truths, easily misunderstood or overlooked, and secondly, it does so within a tradition which, unfortunately, requires some familiarity with difficult ideas. Not much — and I have explained the ideas as clearly as they can be explained — but still more than most.

Anyone reading the above who is soft-minded enough to detect a hint of something elusive and true, and hard-minded enough to enjoy reading about consciousness and representation, about the illusory division the mind makes between subjectivity and objectivity, about the tension between qualitative character and quantitative personality, and so on and so forth, will enjoy Self and Unself and understand that the difficult presentation is not intended to conceal lack of meaning (as it is in so much philosophy) but to reveal new meaning.

I need hardly add that such meaning can be expressed much more simply and enjoyably in other ways, and that most people do not need a book such as this to grasp it.

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 5:23 PM
Reply to  Darren Allen

Your text is convoluted alright. Most people won’t have the first clue what the hell you’re trying to say and will think that you’re a stuck up lunatic.

To draw parallel with music, there is the old joke about the difference between a rock musician and a jazz musician – the former plays three chords for thousands of people, and the latter plays thousands of chords for three people. You might wanna think about that the next time you’re crafting a particularly twisted turn of phrase. Another thing that works in music is the “hook”. A likeable motif that catches the attention of the listener, hooks him to the tune.

Anyways, lighten up dude; put a fuck, shit, and piss here and there, that’s always good and counterbalances the tension. You know that it’s all about tension and release, eh?

Be it as it may, consider this. This particular subject matter is actually of extreme importance. Especially in light of the shit the world is in right now. People who are willing to work their way through difficult texts most likely already know what you’re saying, but it’s the ones who aren’t that need to prompted to open their eyes, if you catch my drift …

Darren Allen
Darren Allen
May 9, 2021 5:44 PM
Reply to  Jacques

I’m no fan of modern jazz, or modern rock for that matter, but to stick with your metaphor…

There is a place for rock, and a place for jazz. The quality of a work is not measured by the size of its audience. Some of the most influential creations in history were first heard or read by a microscopically small number of people. I have written ‘rock’ elsewhere, for thousands of people. This is ‘jazz’, for three people. If you’re not one of those three, I think we can both live it.

People who are willing to work their way through difficult texts most likely already know what you’re saying, but it’s the ones who aren’t that need to prompted to open their eyes.

Untrue; people able to take on difficult works are usually unable to understand the most elementary moral truths that the less well educated grasp without the need to read a word of philosophy. But in any case, I have very little interest in ‘opening people’s eyes’ because in matters of real importance it cannot be done. I prefer to just to play — jazz (original 30s and 40s jazz), or rock (original 70s rock) — to people who already have rhythm…

If you have to ask what jazz is, you’ll never know.

Louis Armstrong

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 6:35 PM
Reply to  Darren Allen

Funny that you should quote Louis Armstrong because he certainly wasn’t a proponent of anything remotely avant-garde, anything that the middle-of-the-road listener wouldn’t be able to digest, as opposed to, say, Ornette Coleman.

It’s okay to be uncompromising and pay no attention to nobody, in fact I’m kinda with you on that, but in that context, I don’t quite get why you’d be apologizing for it as per the above. I mean, if you say, implicitly, fuck you, this is for a select few and if you don’t understand, I give a shit not, why would you apologize? Be yourself, then.

Anyway, jazz is not only a performing art, which makes it kinda pointless if there is no audience, but also a highly interactive art form. For a jazz player, having a responsive audience is of paramount importance. So, the true artist is not only true to the art per se, but is able to sell it to the audience at the same time.

Let the world know how many people (will) have bought/read your book …

Darren Allen
Darren Allen
May 9, 2021 7:14 PM
Reply to  Jacques

The Armstrong quote (the words that is) was to back up my point that ‘opening people’s eyes’ is a largely fruitless (and largely rationalist) endeavour. You brought in the other opinions of the man to score a point it seems.

I’m apologising to people who are needlessly frustrated and should probably just pass on by. I know the feeling of being frustrated by a text, it’s unpleasant. That’s all. Obviously I’m not apologising for not aiming for a large audience, and I’ve said as much.

And yes, these things are a conversation. With this work I wish to converse with a small number of people, some of whom, I believe, will be here. You’re obviously not one of them and so, with all good intent, goodbye.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
May 9, 2021 8:25 PM
Reply to  Darren Allen

We authors have a rule of never replying to comments or reviews for good reason.
Even more relevant when you’re preaching ego.

Darren Allen
Darren Allen
May 9, 2021 9:05 PM
Reply to  Grace Johns

Yes of course. I remember that one in author school. I’m quite happy to reply to break it though, if something can be said; as were many other graduates.

rob2
rob2
May 9, 2021 10:16 PM
Reply to  Darren Allen

“I remember that one in author school.”

Ha! Good one. I respect authors who engage their audience. It takes courage. Iron sharpens iron!

Jacques
Jacques
May 10, 2021 6:07 AM
Reply to  Darren Allen

You don’t sound like you want to converse. You come across as a guy who wraps an idea in heaps of incomprehensible shit so as to obscure it, make it look bigger than it is, present yourself as intellectually superior, get a pat on the back from a bunch of similarly conceited dicks, and then together with your few interlocutors run at the mouth about how stupid the rest are.

Incidentally, the next time you commit the appeal to authority fallacy, make it less obvious and pick something that makes elementary sense.

Marcello
Marcello
May 10, 2021 10:10 PM
Reply to  Darren Allen

Keep in mind that Armstrong was not the only one. Sarah Vaughn also stated something similar as well as Duke Ellington.
They were above all artists and resented being pigeon holed by the media, they wanted the music to be appreciated for its own merit without giving it some idiotic label.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 5:46 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Get to the point quickly. State your main points first. When possible, use active voice and short, direct sentences. Define all technical, uncommon words, terms, and acronyms.

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 6:42 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Well, the guy admits that he’s basically engaging in intellectual masturbation, so that’s what you get.

But hey, there is enough room under the sun for everybody, it’s all good.

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 9, 2021 9:31 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Good nonsense

Jacques
Jacques
May 10, 2021 6:07 AM
Reply to  Dr. Sok

Tovarish Sok, vyser si voko.

Loverat 8
Loverat 8
May 9, 2021 6:59 PM
Reply to  Darren Allen

Don’t apologise. Stick with your style and don’t change it because of a few comments. Off G readers are intelligent enough to understand the different styles and range of articles. But they like picking fault – pettyness one of my biggest annoyances. The other day on one thread they found fault with the author’s use of the word ‘communism’. Taken out of the context of the sentence and before you know it a 100 post debate on communism and fascism.

Anyway if I find an article ‘heavy going’ for whatever reason, (usually not the authors fault but the subject matter) I re-read it first before comment.

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 7:16 PM
Reply to  Loverat 8

The value of an online forum such as this one, essentially anonymous, is that people can propose, exchange, criticize ideas, ideas as such that is, in a kinda no-holds barred fashion. From various angles, in respect of various connotations, correlations.

It’s a free market for ideas, and that’s how people should approach it. Apologizing is ridiculous. As soon as you introduce fake respect, pretense, and walk on eggshells, it loses its charm.

So what, the guy likes convoluted thoughts and says fuck you if you don’t get it, and those who don’t get it fuck him back. This actually applies in general, I wouldn’t want to make this text bigger than it is.

I don’t quite see any problem with any of this. We can all sit at the same table and drink beers together … The more (idiosyncratic nutjobs), the merrier … 😀 …

Darren Allen
Darren Allen
May 10, 2021 7:17 AM
Reply to  Loverat 8

I’m not asking forgiveness, which would be feeble and absurd; rather expressing sympathy with anyone who, in good faith, is needlessly frustrated by an unavoidably difficult presentation, and giving an account of (or ‘apology’ for — which I also do in the introduction to the book) why that should be so. Because, in this case, ‘the subject matter’ is the simplest and most accessible truth on earth, the true subject of philosophy. The idea, implicit in most professional philosophy, and that I appear to be endorsing with a hyper-literate style, is that this truth is only available to people capable of merely thinking about difficult ideas. Obviously it is not, and the widespread belief that it is, is a monstrous deception which I would like those good people who are needlessly confused (unused to difficult ideas, rather than plain stupid) to understand I am not practicing. If they are to be outraged, offended, angered and disgusted I would like it to be by what I am saying, not by the style in which I am, against my instincts, forced to present it.

swami
swami
May 9, 2021 8:09 PM
Reply to  Darren Allen

you did well, i am perplexed why your a apologist for people stupidity ;0)

Rod
Rod
May 11, 2021 3:25 PM
Reply to  Darren Allen

Thanks for this,
Over the last twenty years, the mask that I wore for 65 years was slipping & then was violently ripped off & I was left berift.
The lie of my life was unbearable, then the world flooded into my consciousness in a manner that (in hindsight) was breathtakingly painful & illuminating.
Now I know that I was crafted, rather than evolved, made into something other then who I was.
Now I’m me (I think) as painfull as that might be, but it’s a far better place then I’ve ever known.
Bought your book, struggling through the first part… needs an ordered mind?

magumba
magumba
May 9, 2021 3:07 PM

As the resident uneducated ,unwashed,ignorant ,illiterate scum i would dearly like to see the contortions the author of this piece went through to be able to look up his own arsehole to such a degree

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 3:34 PM
Reply to  magumba

Best post ever …!!!

Ha ha ha …

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 4:11 PM
Reply to  magumba

Fuck. That’s funny.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 9, 2021 9:54 PM
Reply to  magumba

It’s just basic self-reflection, best expressed along with meditation until the meditation becomes the art of daily life. Then one is living IT.

Ooink
Ooink
May 9, 2021 2:13 PM

The individual vs the State. The two don’t mix.

Ooink
Ooink
May 10, 2021 1:04 PM
Reply to  Ooink

Oh, they do mix? Morons.

Shelby
Shelby
May 9, 2021 1:18 PM

This article gave me pause for a great deal of introspection. The parts on the social self reconciling with the self, made me realise how important my small network of non-brainwashed friends are in the city I live in. Concealing one’s true belief system in a surrounding fabricated reality full of labotomised, compliant parrots does certainly take its toll on one’s personality, character, ego & sanity. Reading all the comments here always helps to reassure me and level the playing field out. Perhaps this era will be looked back upon as a time when a few stood against the many indoctrinated (albeit orchestrated by a small number of psychopaths). As time wanes on, those indoctrinated will hopefully become gradually deprogrammed; yet sadly they will grapple with shame, guilt, humiliation & an irreconcilable frustration until the end of their days.

thinkingcritically
thinkingcritically
May 9, 2021 3:10 PM
Reply to  Shelby

“As time wanes on, those indoctrinated will hopefully become gradually deprogrammed; yet sadly they will grapple with shame, guilt, humiliation & an irreconcilable frustration until the end of their days.”

If the independent experts are to be believed, the indoctrinated, most of whom will probably be vaccinated, will die from immunopathology reactions before they become deprogrammed. We already know that they cannot be de-vaccinated.

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 9, 2021 9:36 PM
Reply to  Shelby

We have been here watching this all forever. You are not alone.

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 9, 2021 9:40 PM
Reply to  Shelby

Shelby. Vi;- Violet. Old name. Not names. Cover.

Edwige
Edwige
May 9, 2021 1:17 PM

The hive mind is something they’ve been studying for a long time and it’s a big part of the assunptions underlying the Great Reset.

In the hive, everyone has their designated caste role and doesn’t rebel against it. No bee expects upward mobility. No bee thinks it can define its future role. The transhumanists have said explicitly that future humanity will be engineered for specified roles. It’s not implausible that this has started already (or is it just a big coincidence that autism happens to produce people particularly well-suited to the most in-demand job of the near-future, coding?).

Another feature of the hive is that everyone bar the queen is wiped out in periodic resets. There’s no comfortable retirement in the hive. The change of seasons does it for the bees; our Luciferian overlords don’t believe in leaving such things to nature.

There are no individuals each with a bit of the divine spark and endowed with inalienable rights in the hive. There’s no self; it’s communitarianism wrote large. Ice Age Farmer made a very good point recently about how much Stalin’s speech heralding collective farms sounded like agriculture under the Great Reset. It’s the same solution (giganticism + technocracy) with a different sugar-coating. This is not to say the Great Reset is simply reducible to Communism, I’ve argued repeatedly it synthesises elements from all ideologies.

Ooink
Ooink
May 9, 2021 2:14 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Ever read The Fable of the Bees?

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 9, 2021 6:01 PM
Reply to  Edwige

is it just a big coincidence that autism happens to produce people particularly well-suited to the most in-demand job of the near-future, coding?

that’s an evidence-free slur. you made it up.

Grafter
Grafter
May 9, 2021 12:45 PM

Essential reading………………

CONTROLLED DEMOLITION of the American Empire

From the founding of the Federal Reserve, to 9/11, to the Coronavirus Panic.

by Jeff Berwick & Charlie Robinson

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
May 9, 2021 8:33 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Like everything out of his mouth, total plagiarism of far better writers. Dude doesn’t even know who Solzhenitsyn was – couldn’t even pronounce his name.
Two weeks ago he was pushing people to get BTC and laying on the FOMO with his private planes and yachts and suddenly, he flips to saying BTC is controlled op and that he always said so – twat.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 9, 2021 9:56 PM
Reply to  Grace Johns

So how was the book?

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 9, 2021 9:58 PM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

So, nothing about the book, then.
Go [email protected]#K yourself.

janmarsh
janmarsh
May 9, 2021 11:51 AM

Dear President Trump, You are our last hope. Please free us from the horror of Globalist control we have over us here in UK. They are killing us by lethal injection..

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
May 9, 2021 12:22 PM
Reply to  janmarsh

If that’s even remotely true (it isn’t), then we are totally fucked, beyond redemption.

Corarden
Corarden
May 9, 2021 1:12 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

lol

ZigZagwanderer
ZigZagwanderer
May 9, 2021 1:18 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Some people have died as a direct result of the injection and our Govt. is clearly not in control …. so a perfectly valid statement from janmarsh.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 9, 2021 1:51 PM
Reply to  ZigZagwanderer
Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
May 9, 2021 2:53 PM
Reply to  ZigZagwanderer

Trump isn’t our last hope. Our only hope lies in ourselves and our own ability to cut through the bullshit. Trump is part of the bullshit. The spurious notion that somebody else will save the day is a massive part of the problem.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 9, 2021 3:19 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

“I would not be a Moses to lead you into the Promised Land, because if I could lead you into it, someone else could lead you out of it.” 

~ Eugene V Debs

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
May 9, 2021 3:57 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

“We are going to emancipate ourselves from mental slavery because whilst others might free the body, none but ourselves can free the mind. Mind is your only ruler, sovereign. The man who is not able to develop and use his mind is bound to be the slave of the other man who uses his mind.”

~Marcus Garvey

Corarden
Corarden
May 9, 2021 1:09 PM
Reply to  janmarsh

That’s the same Trump who went to play golf when all his supporters were getting set up at The Capitol building, the same Trump who signed off on Operation Warpspeed, the same Trump owned by Resorts International….lol…

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 9, 2021 6:10 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Trump was in the WH when the false flag DS players hijacked the peaceful folks who gathered.

Hsuan
Hsuan
May 9, 2021 4:33 PM
Reply to  janmarsh

You’re not seeing the bigger picture. If you’re going to put your faith in politicians you may as well put a tooth under your pillow and wait for the deposit of that silver dollar.

For many years I’ve had this quote from Henry David Thoreau rolling around in my head:

“I heartily accept the motto, ‘That government is best which governs least’; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe — ‘That government is best which governs not at all’; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have.”

And so it goes.

Howard
Howard
May 9, 2021 5:10 PM
Reply to  Hsuan

This would be why the true function of government is not the governing of people but of things – such as corporations, non-profits, churches, businesses. Yes, all these entities consist of people; but they operate apart from most who work within them – and may function in ways contrary to their stated raison d’etre.

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 9, 2021 9:42 PM
Reply to  Hsuan

Yes, but can you put the pillow on your head before the sleep. Do you see now?

George Mc
George Mc
May 9, 2021 10:49 AM

Strictly speaking the following is off topic – so I better make that clear since I upset somebody last time.

Here is a link in which a couple of Marxists try to grapple with “conspiracy theory”:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3pkA7aZ3CCPMmNGBb2IjO1

Note the usual pedantic hair splitting, the usual self-assumed superiority, the usual chortling dismissal of the powerful as “stupid” etc. There is a vague understanding that some of the more perceptive members of that “petit bourgeoisie” are being branded “conspiracy theorists” – and therefore some insight into the Pavlovian use of “conspiracy theory”. But there is not nearly enough in this vein. And no perception that it is the label “conspiracy theory” that is being used to derail all dissident thinking.

The matter they uncover is already known to the best (dreaded word) “conspiracy theorists” i.e. that YES, the truth isn’t too hard to find. But it is precisely the manipulative use of the term “conspiracy theory” that is keeping people away from the truth!

And then there is that curious attempt to hold apart the “materialist” and the “idealist” approach – as if either approach could be consistent. Materialistically – YES, again groups are defined by their class interests – but they operate through ideas! Where do you draw the line?

And to top off the curious contradictions inherent here, this jolly little banter is rounded off by an interview with one of the Barrington signatories Martin Kulldorff – thus showing that our brave revolutionaries are perfectly aware of COVID as steaming bullshit and yet apparently unaware that this insight is being denounced as “conspiracy theory”.

And now someone with an infinitely greater understanding of how it all works:

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 9, 2021 11:53 AM
Reply to  George Mc

“Marxist? Hardly. Just a couple of jack booted corporate fascist fabian eugenicist brown shirted charlatan fraudster flu-Nazis strutting around for the Langley-Land handlers and trying to give Karl Marx a bad name.”

“Now for some Debs”
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https://www.tumblr.com/search/v+debs/photo

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 12:13 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Yeah. Anyone who thinks our elites are “Marxist” is seriously confused or purposefully lying.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 9, 2021 1:27 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

“Own nothing and be happy”
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“For we YOUR CORPORATE FASCIST OWNERS / MASTERS will own it all for you.”

John Crowther
John Crowther
May 9, 2021 3:26 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Oh look nosferatu as popped up again

wardropper
wardropper
May 10, 2021 10:33 PM
Reply to  John Crowther

Has to be at least 400 years old…

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 9, 2021 6:17 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Whether the elites are Marxist or not is irrelevant. They deploy Bolshevik tactics (antifa, BLM class warfare) because it destabilizes things. The ends justifies the means.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 7:19 PM
Reply to  Thom1111

There is NO class warfare. They stay away from that. That’s one real issue in the US. They divide the middle classes and poor using race, gender, and everything else they can fabricate.

Arby
Arby
May 10, 2021 9:45 AM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Class warfare is alive and well. Check out a recent blog post by Jon Rappoport titled “Parallels between GMO COVID vaccine and GMO crops; lessons not learned.”

Here’s a quote from it:

))) )) )
Lee Silver [3], Princeton University molecular biologist, predicts our future (“Remaking Eden: How Genetic Engineering and Cloning Will Transform the American Family” (2007) [3b]):

“The GenRich—who account for ten percent of the American population—all carry synthetic genes. All aspects of the economy, the media, the entertainment industry, and the knowledge industry are controlled by members of the GenRich class…”

“Naturals work as low-paid service providers or as laborers. [Eventually] the GenRich class and the Natural class will become entirely separate species with no ability to crossbreed, and with as much romantic interest in each other as a current human would have for a chimpanzee.”

“Many think that it is inherently unfair for some people to have access to technologies that can provide advantages while others, less well-off, are forced to depend on chance alone, [but] American society adheres to the principle that personal liberty and personal fortune are the primary determinants of what individuals are allowed and able to do.”

“Indeed, in a society that values individual freedom above all else, it is hard to find any legitimate basis for restricting the use of repro-genetics. I will argue [that] the use of reprogenetic technologies is inevitable. [W]hether we like it or not, the global marketplace will reign supreme.”
( (( (((

If those quotes are together in the original source material, then Jon has not applied correct punctuation to them at all.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 10, 2021 11:12 AM
Reply to  Arby

That’s basically Huxley’s vision, which might be possible. Yeah, it’s terrifying. However, the topic of class gaps is almost uniformly avoided by congress and all presidential applicants. Class is not a political issue in the US but most Americans know the historically unprecedented income gaps between the top 1 percent and everyone else is probably the biggest problem in the US. Hence, my statement that there is no class warfare, except by the global rich against middle and working class Americans.

rob2
rob2
May 10, 2021 4:49 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Months ago I drove past our town’s civic center which was advertising a church for men only. That concept is so incredibly wrought with contradictions, I don’t know where to start.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 10, 2021 5:08 PM
Reply to  rob2

Agree.

Arby
Arby
May 10, 2021 9:41 AM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Additionally, it is up to them to explain to us in what way our elites are Marxist.

George Mc
George Mc
May 9, 2021 2:19 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yes, it all ties in. One of those chummy Marxists ‘avin a good larf at how “stoopid” the ruling class is is one Leila Mechoui who co-wrote a piece for the Bellows entitled We Are Going to Reopen Way Before Most Are Vaccinated which as the title suggests is a covid scary scary piece in the mode of the WSW. I have already dealt with this crap, but I’ll regurgitate this bit of schizophrenia:

“The pandemic has never been a significant threat to the economy. For working-age people and their children, COVID-19 was no worse than the baseline seasonal flu…. If the working class had itself pushed for the vaccine, Capital would have responded—even if the pandemic was having no effect on their profits. But the working class has not been disturbed enough to agitate for a vaccine.”

Does Mechoui even bother to read what she writes? She admits that Covid 19 is a hyped-up load of crap and then curses the workers for not agitating for a vaccine!

The biggest irony is that these “revolutionaries” sneering at the “petit bourgeoisie” may be the pettiest bourgeoisie of them all!

MBJ
MBJ
May 9, 2021 6:08 PM
Reply to  George Mc

That smugness is nauseating. I work in a university and hear this kind of shite every so often. Most work in the humanities and social sciences is unadventurous, banal and unenlightening.

George Mc
George Mc
May 9, 2021 6:54 PM
Reply to  MBJ

One of the great ironies of this “enlightened” (i.e. conspiracy-phobic) Left is that they sneer at the conspiracists for indulging in a “politics of despair”. Meanwhile they themselves indulge in a politics of indolent self-satisfaction!

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 9, 2021 7:01 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Hey George Mc:
Speaking of off topic…Have you heard of these guys? Left Lockdown Skeptics? A friend sent me this great interview with a California teacher.

https://leftlockdownsceptics.com/2021/03/fighting-lockdown-in-california-a-us-teacher-speaks/?doing_wp_cron=1620512218.3745839595794677734375

A couple paragraphs really stood out to me:

“I also began to see a future where the working class was being physically separated and atomized in a process that looked to me like ‘reverse enclosure’. I worry that this physical separation, where all our work is eventually done remotely (which I believe is where this is headed), may actually turn the working class effectively into a peasant class (or gig workers). We will still be exploited, but no longer a class that understands itself or experiences itself as a collective class. To me, this takes the Marxist notion of working class revolution off the table, [my emphasis] making me wonder if this is part of what is in operation right now”

And:

7. Have you any ideas on how the Left can fight back and build a resistance movement against the bio-security state?

You can’t fight these things if you are not actually against them. [my emphasis – I was laughing out loud after I read this line!] So the first thing the Left in the United States needs to do is get its head on straight and realize it must oppose all contact tracing initiatives, any mandated testing, mandated vaccinations and any ID system that will be used to force workers and students to participate in these programs. We also have to expose and oppose the DNA mining endemic in the testing regime we are being put through and the data mining in all this remote work, remote learning, remote purchasing and remote living we are being put through.

Fundamentally, we have to remind ourselves that our project is a collective one and that any attempt to separate workers instituted by the capitalist class must be seen as an attack on our class and resisted as such.”

~~~
Interested to know your thoughts!

George Mc
George Mc
May 10, 2021 10:36 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

I don’t want to be a bummer, but I think that the Marxist notion of working-class revolution has been off the table for well over half a century now. Partly due to ruling class compromise and their pragmatic manoeuvre of, as it were, inviting the working class onto the management team via e.g. the Labour Party. This was only possible because the West, centred on the US, was in a very strong economic situation after WW2.

You might also say that the working class has already been going through a process of physical separation and atomization for the period we are considering. Initially, the big factories of the industrial revolution made it possible for the workers to form large collectives through which they could exercise power. But of course, the bosses were well aware of this and tried continually to stop it. And the drift of technological advance, powered mainly be the very aim of maximising profit and correspondingly of minimising worker power, pushed towards smaller and smaller workplaces leading to the present where class consciousness may be at a minimum level due to the fragmentation of society. All this was the way of it even before covid.

But here’s the ultimate irony: covid has of course resulted in the most severe fragmentation yet and the Left are urging that very process on!

Which leads into your understandable amusement about how you can’t fight these things if you are not against them. And the biggest problem I can see is that the Left are still urging on the lockdowns, the restrictions, the track and trace etc. It has been the brilliance of the covid con that it has, as it were, written up such an irresistible script for the Left to follow. It isn’t just that the Left have swallowed the “lethal virus” scenario. Even worse – they have quite stridently attacked all covid scepticism as a “Right wing, conspiracy nut” thing. And even though some of them are starting to vaguely think there’s something funny going on, even these ones seem to be hampered by an utterly inconsistent view whereby they see ruling class manoeuvres but still complain about that dreaded “conspiracy theory” angle.

A recent radio broadcast I listened to highlighted the whole problem. Two very complacent speakers were blathering away affably about our stupid rulers, the artificial division between class analysis and “conspiracy theory” – this division taken for granted by them – and generally sounding as if that sweet little world of class competitive bargaining was still here and could go on forever.

I think the inevitable forthcoming clashes will have less and less to do with that conspiracy phobic designated Left and may take on a whole new cast. I certainly hope so.

Kalen
Kalen
May 9, 2021 10:33 AM

Oh Canada.

Pastor and his brother arrested Nazi style on the freeway for conducting church mass without masks.

https://youtu.be/hq-cHqBAjZk

swami
swami
May 9, 2021 11:21 AM
Reply to  Kalen

Oh Canada.LOL

OH England oH USA OH Canada again and OH Ireland
what is this original story line??? so original it used in the above country’s since Easter Sunday 2021
retarded voting season / year psyop
OH the obvious so oblivious

Loverat
Loverat
May 9, 2021 11:30 AM
Reply to  Kalen

Indeed. Difficult to know if the police there are just a bunch of brainwashed dopes in masks outside or part of a sinister cult. God bless the pastor – one of just a few in the church who’ve spoken out.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 9, 2021 12:13 PM
Reply to  Loverat

Move along now. Nothing to see here. Just the Flu Nazi Gestapo enforcing the Scamdemic ‘Big Lie’. Onward to the Great Rip-Off.
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“Heil Trudeau!”

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
May 9, 2021 1:58 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Castreau.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 9, 2021 3:04 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Justin is so obviously Fidel’s son that it’s become the anti-conspiracy-conspiracy to deny it.

It just goes to show that even freethinkers set their own boundaries lest they be considered mad in conventional terms …

And so they aren’t free thinkers at all!

Our leftist chums do the same thing, staying firmly within the limits of conventional thought BY WHICH THEY CALIBRATE THEIR ‘ESCAPE’ from conventional thought.

Being a rebel within the system yet remaining comfortably trapped, we can blame the system and avoid having to take that final, honest, decisive, possibly deadly step outside the tribe.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 9, 2021 3:54 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“Time to shut down the Nazi Suppression Agency (NSA) and all of Langley-Land. If only the War Racketeer Corporate Fascist Oliarch Mobster Psycho Criminal Victimizers were to put their efforts into helping WE THE PEOPLE (Humanity) instead of engorging themselves and robbing it.”

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 4:15 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

WAY past time. Many of them should be executed.

Arby
Arby
May 10, 2021 9:50 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Proof please?

wardropper
wardropper
May 10, 2021 10:34 PM
Reply to  Arby

Or at least a convincing argument…?

Loverat 8
Loverat 8
May 9, 2021 5:25 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Put a beard on him and you get Fidel Castro. (joke there is Fidel is allegedly Trudeau’s father)

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 9, 2021 6:21 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Now put him in Stalin or Mao uniform would be more accurate.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 9, 2021 8:08 PM
Reply to  Thom1111

“Hi this is Poppa John. Listen to Greta ‘Butch’ Thornbooger, SAVE THE STRAWS. Also get your cull juice jabs.”
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“Euthanize the World! Eugenics and Corporate Fascism forever.”

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 9, 2021 10:50 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Handsome devil, eh?

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
May 9, 2021 12:05 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Cheka style ?

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 12:14 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

cia style

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 12:09 PM
Reply to  Kalen

I found the police in Canada just an inch better than the thugs in the States. Once I was passing from Point St. Charles toward Vieux Montreal, through the abandoned yards around Canal Lachine, an I once witnessed how the pigs brought a panhandler from St. Catherine Street, tossed him out of the cruiser, and beat the shit out of them, just for laughs. I was seriously afraid that they were gonna shoot me, as a witness, and I made myself as invisible as I could.

The cops are stupid as fucks, totally inflexible, and brutal to the brim. This is godsend for them – they can indulge in their sadism.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
May 9, 2021 12:28 PM
Reply to  Jacques

I don’t know brother, a lot of the cunts seem pretty flexible when it comes to applying the rules that they enforce upon us to themselves and their own behaviour.

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 9, 2021 10:48 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Mac truck driver just got jabbed suffers adverse, wipes out roadblock.

Edwige
Edwige
May 9, 2021 9:55 AM

“Property is inviolable, therefore stealing is wrong; a man steals an apple, therefore he must be punished, no matter how wealthy the supermarket he steals from”.

This sort of thinking is very dangerous. It’s designed to appeal to leftists who have some dim recollection that “property is theft” but who haven’t really thought about it for several decades. It serves ‘The Great Reset’ aganda of “you’ll own nothing” – indeed the author doesn’t seem much aware of that agenda at all. It also serves the BLM agenda. How is it wrong that a BLM protester puts a torch or a brick to the local business? Well, the BLM protester is told that the business is a result of “white privilege” and destroying it an act of racial and historical justice. The author has no argument against this that I can see. Now I realise the author isn’t thinking of a local cornershop but of a Wal-mart. Wal-mart and its like are indeed highly objectionable but on multiple other grounds that don’t need going over again here.

How can anyone resist tyranny without some property? The WEF know this which is why they want to abolish it under the guise of saving the planet. They don’t need help from the faux left. Stealing an apple is wrong. One reason a large segment of the working classes didn’t support the left was that they sensed that their painfully-earnt property wasn’t safe under leftist rule – and they had a point.

TBC this isn’t to defend them good ol’ days with 200 capital crimes and hanging the poor for stealing a loaf of bread. Of course not. However theft should not be a consequence-free action either. It’s typical fake dialectics to offer these as the only options.

On the broader issue, why people are so obedient doesn’t take a lot of waffle about the self and the ego to get it. Social conditioning through education, fear of the consequences, desire to conform, lack of alternative sources of info, lack of contrary examples, habit, the mistaken belief that it’ll be temporary (regarding masks), the science paradigm, an induced state of fear…. the list goes on. The more interesting question is how people can be brought to vehemently support something they vehemently opposed only a couple of years before – like covering your face in public. There are a load of articles available about changing work place habits in a business. This is clearly where they’d been trialing their techniques. It’s scary stuff because it suggests there’s no value so entrenched that it can’t be overturned by a concerted campaign – including values essential to self-preservation. The numbers of Americans who now apparently don’t believe in the First Amendment are testimony to this. Inculcating self-loathing is an important step. To go back to my earlier example, some white shop-owners may be think their store deserves to be burnt down. Asian shop-owners are much less likely to fall for this sort of bullshit and that’s where a big showdown with BLM is more likely to occur.

mgeo
mgeo
May 10, 2021 5:57 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Self-preservation: For any military force to exist, it must undermine this instinct in recruits.

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
May 9, 2021 9:55 AM

I wish I could turn my thread ” A brief history of the world” into an article that I could publish here. The thread died with the forum I inhabited for two years. Essentially we have very little ability to influence society which is driven by irresistible natural forces. The Caribs and the Tasmanians came up against an irresistible force and perished. I have been briefly in both Puerto Rico and Tasmania where these people once lived in (relative) harmony with nature. Civilization is a Ponzi scheme that has reached it’s limits and is now collapsing as we write. It promises and delivers relative security and dreams of immortality but eats away at Mother Nature which sustains us. The “high” civilization of the West was built on lowly acts of genocide and slavery and loot. The script cannot be altered. Life on Earth is a natural if very rare phenomenon like the (common) formation, maturation and demise of a star. This phenomenon (of life) has lasted for 3.5 billion years and is now close to its inevitable conclusion. I sometimes envy those that passed on before Convid. It is the misfortune of all of us alive at this time of witnessing the end of life. With mankind gone the reactors will melt down and end life on Earth. This unique life bearing planet will soon be transformed into a lifeless sphere like it’s companions orbiting the sun.

jimbojames
jimbojames
May 9, 2021 11:26 AM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Why ya’ll think the billionaires are so desperate to get off this planet that they’ve destroyed (not on their own they had lots and lots of help)?

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
May 9, 2021 12:12 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Life will go on in the Universe, it will probably continue on Earth for a few billion years after we’ve poisoned ourselves out of existence. In my view, the Universe needs conscious experience of itself as a condition of existence, just as much as it needs what we call gravity to be as it is and as it ever has been and ever will be. In a sense, it’s nothing special, it’s probably everywhere in varied forms that we can never comprehend in the reality that we inhabit. In a another sense it is the essence of divinity itself.

We are just part of a bigger thing that ultimately we have no control over, but we can control our own perception. As sad a as it may seem, to be consciously aware of the destruction that we have wrought upon the beautiful and bountiful cradle of our life essence, we are just as much a part of nature as everything else, and nature takes an incontrovertible path beyond the reach of our arrogant and self serving species. We can’t control the thoughts and actions of selfish men and women, all we can do is vow to reject their thoughts and actions as part of our lives, to call their bullshit what it is and to endeavour to resist their manipulation and to exist outside of their insane system of self deception and self consumption. I think that is the only only path to inner peace that is available to us.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
May 9, 2021 8:44 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Was it along the lines of Modern History project – Final Warning?

Peter
Peter
May 9, 2021 11:47 PM
Reply to  Grace Johns

Never heard of Modern History Project.

mgeo
mgeo
May 10, 2021 6:00 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

The nuke disasters, industrial disasters and military disasters will occur long before we are all gone.

Turning Moment
Turning Moment
May 9, 2021 8:40 AM

This reads to me like the same schtick that has circulated for 250 years, only re-packaged in convoluted psychobabble of a (mis) interpretted Buddhism.
It is wrong to lie, and kill and steal. There are ‘laws of cause and effect’ in nature- in part and in the whole.
The key issue lies in the relationship between human laws and Natural Law. The degree of mismatch is determined by our limits of perception and the development of our moral sense.
Anarchists look at the contemporary near universal abuse of ‘laws, taboos, legitimations and totems’ and conclude that we would be better off without any of them. They choose this rather than asking “how did we come to this particular set of laws?”, or seeking to close the gap between civilisation and nature through a deepening of our understanding of human and non-human nature.
What is the moral message of the Old Testament, and how does that relate (in cause and effect) to our technocratic bureaucracy of today?
Read Rudolf Steiner’s The Philosophy of Freedom.

Howard
Howard
May 9, 2021 3:53 PM
Reply to  Turning Moment

Anarchists – true anarchists – are just what the name says, and no more. They are against the concept of rulership; against power; against hierarchy. That does not mean anarchists would necessarily be against social norms which have evolved over time.

They would certainly be against the mutilation of newborns for the sake of some rule laid down by a supposed super entity thousands of years ago (i.e., circumcision). And against lockdowns based on computer models. And against a thousand other rules devised, not to enhance social interaction but to control it.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 9, 2021 7:10 PM
Reply to  Howard

Where are those anarchists? It would certainly be welcome to have them back.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 9, 2021 10:26 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

I am here! Funny how psychopaths like to equate Anarchy to it’s bastard opposite, Nihilism.
I haven’t made Anarchy grotesque by applying the counter-measure, Nihilism, ever.
Do ANYTHING that is non-violent, but provocative to the enemy.
I am going to print out that photshop of JT as Fuhrer and spread it around town! (Canada is about to adapt a “No Badmouth a Politician Law)
Too bad “Anarchy in the UK” never got close. But, still, thank you, Johnny!

Willem
Willem
May 9, 2021 8:23 AM

‘ I can reject the bullshit music, the ugly council estate, the advertising lies and the witless jibber-jabber.’

Reject you can, but you cannot ignore the bullshit, since bullshit is everywhere. This is the problem with bullshit.

Huxley’s novel was sort of a utopia as people who could not fit in society, could be transferred to islands where the fitting in was no longer necessary. Iceland, the Falkland Islands…

There is a lesson in that: in order to ignore the bullshit, man himself must become an island, at least for as long as the bullshit is there. Man must become an exile to society when society is filled with (harmful) bullshit. I am aware that exiles may (probably will) have a hard time and that the decision to become an exile may not play out well (the Volcano from Klaus Mann goes into this problem). But what is the alternative? Getting jabbed, being continually tested, sit at home with (hopefully) some income? Obey the non-sensical rules that are extremely hurting the inner-self (if you still have that inner-self).

What I can only hope for is that the bullshit will devour itself. The sooner the better. The indications are there. The jab may save us when vaxxed people turn out to be worse off than the unvaxxed. The vaxxed already are, but are stubbornly believing the bullshit that is that the jabbing may save their lives and does save the lives of others, without any indication that it actually does. It is not clear enough yet for the vaxxed that they are hurting themselves through the jab and other ‘measures’. But what will happen to society if Mike Yeadon’s forecast is correct (still a hypothesis)? Guess, the only good advice in this is that one must be patient, not take the jab and of course try as hard as possible to not let others take the jab as it is poison (but we just do not know how poisonous it is).

The mistake that I have been making throughout this covid crap, is that I have been underestimating the power of denial, gullibility, opportunity, and playing along. That power is much stronger than I would have considered possible. I would have thought (and actually made a bet) that this covid nonsense would have blown over by May 2020. By then all the info was in that covid was nothing extraordinary. I was wrong..

But what I do know is that one cannot remain in denial or be gullible forever. And that the opportunists will found out that their current take on ‘playing along’ is pretty harmful in ways that they never suspected. That will happen, of that I am sure. But when? – I don’t know, but until then I see no other option than that one should try to become an Island. Don’t participate in their bullshit!

Willem
Willem
May 9, 2021 8:27 AM
Reply to  Willem

In other words, where the same problem of bullshit is described by someone else who became an island and where the solution was obvious (stop being foolish), but the timing wasn’t at the time.
 
“Foolishness is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease. Against foolishness we are defenseless.   Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the foolish person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental.” 

Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Letters and Papers from Prison

May Hem
May Hem
May 10, 2021 5:26 AM
Reply to  Willem

Thank you so much Willem. Your comments are profound and very true. We are all facing very big challenges which call upon our inner strength and wisdom. The coming challenges for the ‘foolish’ or ‘unaware’ will be even bigger.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
May 9, 2021 8:46 AM
Reply to  Willem

The bullshit has mutated to a different focus: climate chaos.

The PTB know they have been rumbled over Covid19, so they are now ramping up climate hysteria. The experience they have with climate BS is much, much longer, over 30 years of virtue signalling claptrap now.

The way that power works is that you spin one set of BS until it gets rumbled, whilst having at least 3 go-to alternatives to play as soon as it is rumbled.

Covid19 is the smallest of the battles.

Climate Chaos is a much bigger beast.

Howard
Howard
May 9, 2021 4:00 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Were it not for climate engineering, which is wreaking havoc on not only the Earth’s climate but its living entities, I might deign to climb on board the “Climate Change Is A Big Hoax” bandwagon.

But that’s a huge bandwagon, higher than any horse. And the aluminum and various other nano-particles raining down on us all has made me a little short of breath. I don’t think I could get on board.

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 9, 2021 10:50 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Bigger rumble is solar. Get a fire.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 11:36 AM
Reply to  Willem

I think I understand your post far better than the article or some other long posts here. I’m not sure what they’re tryin’ to say.

I’ve always felt like this…

The Thin Red Line – You’re in a box – YouTube

Everything a lie. Everything you hear, everything you see. So much to spew out. They just keep coming, one after another. You’re in a box. A moving box. They want you dead, or in their lie… There’s only one thing a man can do – find something that’s his, and make an island for himself. If I never meet you in this life, let me feel the lack; a glance from your eyes, and my life will be yours.

~ James Jones

Vitor Neilsen
Vitor Neilsen
May 9, 2021 7:50 AM

Society and culture are now so infantilised that people can’t fend (or think) for themselves.
They simply “never grow up”
So they REQUIRE someone to look after them.
They RELY on the state for everything from emptying their bins, to educating their children, to “making sure they don’t die”

However, “not dying” or “living forever” is a childish fantasy, and so it goes……

Leon
Leon
May 9, 2021 9:51 AM
Reply to  Vitor Neilsen

I agree wholeheartedly, for the majority of people there is an underlying need to be told what to do, “Stand here, take this, smile and move along, all will be well, you will eat bugs, own nothing and be happy!”. I look around me and see pensioners dressed as twenty year olds, grannies dressed as teenagers, children dressed as adults, men dressed as toddlers, adults playing video games, the masses are begging to be comforted and tucked in at night, it’s pathetic and heart breaking by equal measures. Society is fashioned in such a way that we believe that individually we are nothing, a mere piece of the puzzle, and that we must invest all of our power and trust in the whole, society. Then we get fed lies and nonsense until the day that we die, some of us are blissfully ignorant of this, and others have to be painfully aware of the sheer volume of BS surrounding and being fed to us, a daily onslaught of propaganda and misinformation from the very people that we are told to invest our trust in. Fear is the key, fear of being different and made to stand under the spotlight of public disapproval, ridicule and the ensuing sanctions and consequences, in my opinion.
Just keep all the disbelief in check, because soon, after some more sleeps, we will all “Be happy”

Jos
Jos
May 9, 2021 12:15 PM
Reply to  Leon

Just a small point – how are pensioners supposed to dress? You get to 65 or whenever it happens and you change your wardrobe? Ideally we’d all stop buying clothes till the ones we have wear out. I’ve still got things from 20+ years ago and will continue to wear them regardless of whether, in your opinion, they are not ‘age-appropriate ‘. You diminish your argument by suggesting anything we put on our bodies is a reflection of what’s going on in our heads in my opinion.

Howard
Howard
May 9, 2021 4:18 PM
Reply to  Jos

I agree wholeheartedly. Part of the social trap people find themselves in is this ridiculous notion of “Act Your Age!” If your chronology says you’re old – by God try your best to look old and act old so you can damn well be old!

Bullshit!!!!!

NickM
NickM
May 9, 2021 7:35 AM

“I can reject the ugly council estate”

Was already put off by “some of the terms herein — consciousness, self, unself, ego, etc” but stopped reading at the above point. It reminded me of smug liberals in the second halp of the 20th century who unanimously rejected ‘faceless communist architecture” but spent a lot less energy rejecting faceless capitalist money box buildings.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 11:46 AM
Reply to  NickM

Fact. Thanks.

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 6:48 AM

The simplistic me finds some of the formulations fucking convoluted to say the least, but the topic is nevertheless interesting.
 
Peeking let alone stepping outside the realm of the world as one is conditioned to perceive is not exactly easy and requires balls. Balls to be true to oneself, balls to see contradictions in the concepts constituting the cage in which one lives. Such as freedom – endlessly touted in our cage, yet essentially non-existent if looked at by a person who escapes through the bars, spreads his wings, and sees the world in its entirety, looking in bewilderment at the cage, full of people in running wheels like fucking rats.
 
So, why do people allow cages to be implanted in their minds and why do very few of them find the courage to see, question, or even escape the fucked up nature of their existence? The hierarchical structure of society implied by this fucking nonsense about a single entity, god, being in charge of the whole circus? One fucking book that supposedly lays down all the rules? And whoever doesn’t agree is an outcast? Probably.
 
Anyways, if one wants to understand why people all over the world have shitted themselves with fear and obedience in the face of this CV-1984 bullshit, what the text provides a good explanation. They’re scared, can’t, and don’t want to look outside the cage, not to mention fly out of the door that’s not even there.
 

Annette
Annette
May 9, 2021 10:04 AM
Reply to  Jacques

You’re here arguing from within a Christian culture. There are plenty different ways of thinking. In his days, the Buddha identified sixty-two schools of thought founded on experience and reason in the Indian subcontinent. The main difference between Europe and the world beyond is that in the 4th century, Constantine put an end to any pluralism, and his vision has slowly over the millennia been applied to the rest of the world (each place having itself undergone its own internal degeneration eventually, which is why they were unable to resist the external onslaught). But some of us have been lucky because of our cultural backgrounds to have been from the start brought up with the many visions developed: from childhood, my parents bought me books of the various thinking round the world simplified for children. They never imposed anything, I was left to choose what I liked and disliked. So possibly it helps to see life differently, for certain aspects, I prefer a certain Western outlook, for another a Russian one, for yet another a Chinese one or an Arabic one, and for yet another an Indian one (I mean of one or the other of the philosophies of these cultures), and so on. So this has always both allowed me to see all questions both from within a culture and from without (thats why I find it amusing that when I dont hold onto the paradigms of a particular culture, some within it get sufficiently upset to accuse me of dogmatism!), to take a distance and make up my own mind, as well as also see the underlying commonness to us all. I truly feel at times the unity of humankind, and its exhilarating to know one is part of this ongoing flow through now millions of years. Possibly you’ll like to read Tagore’s “The Religion of Man” . Its short.
As for the notion of spirituality, its wonderful to find from the earliest days everything from materialism to the notion of absolute reality of Vedanta, or the absence of any absolute reality as in Buddhism, relativism in Jain. And the many varieties of Chinese schools of thought are equally interesting. Anyhow I talk about all this in my book on science since the science you get depends on your notion of reality, of the universe, and of the relation you develop with it.
Then science can itself change your metaphysics, depends.
So you should rephrase and say that Judaism, and then Christianity based on it, and then Islam as a reform in some sense of “official” Christianity, are all based on one book, and a very dualist, paternalistic vision of God. In China and India, in fact interestingly, none of the schools of thought developed such an idea.

Anyhow whatever we may believe in, as is said in India, we are just dots on the circumference of a circle, each with our own radius, but we’re all going to the same centre, whatever that centre may be… The day it will be accepted that there are as many beliefs as human beings, yet that there is an underlying unity, that day there will at least be peace on earth.

This is in some dream future, but in the meantime to feel part of this flow of life brings peace in itself (I know this may sound crazy, but when I feel like that I feel I could convince even the psychos: I did once convince our local psycho, goodness knows where I got the courage to confront him. Everyone fears him where I live, and some have in the past left because of him. Anyhow, at first he reacted with such violence, but then eventually after 2 years, he totally changed, and now he’s like a little lamb… I just wrote to him once asking him why he kept harming people, and that I felt sad for him, that he must have had some trauma in his life to be like that, that he was aging, shouldnt he begin to reflect on life and what may be after instead, that contrary to everyone around here who feared him, Id always be there for him if he ever needed help. His initial violence towards me had prompted neighbours and acquaintances, including a psychologist one, telling me that in life you cant go about saying such things to people. That psychos can actually harm you physically, that I should go to the police. But as I said, he’s now a most civil person and Im told he doesnt bully people anymore.)

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 12:14 PM
Reply to  Annette

“You’re here arguing from within a Christian culture.”

I don’t know about that. First, the Christian culture, in the sense how it forms the basis of reasoning/view of the world, affects pretty much the whole world, at least to some extent. Second, I don’t see a whole lot of people from non-Chistian cultures who would be that much different. Indians might be even worse off, being imprisoned in the caste system.

Platov
Platov
May 9, 2021 6:36 AM

The notion of “self” is more complex and layered than described in this excerpt. For example, my parents were “Displaced Persons” from the USSR after WWII and emigrated to the US when I was six. I have largely assimilated into American culture but there is an important part of me that remains distinctly Russian, especially my distinct preference for talking about all the controversial subjects that Americans insist on avoiding, including “politics, sex and religion.” I have absolutely no interest in talking about my latest vacation or home improvement project. I am sure that many
first-generation immigrants also have a similar “dualistic” identity. There were only two periods in my life where these two aspects of my identity were in some conflict: 1) In the early 50’s due to the Russophobia induced by McCarthyism, and 2) Since 2016 due to the rabid Russophobia spewed by Liberals after Hillary lost the election.

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 6:52 AM
Reply to  Platov

As per what I wrote above, you are able to see the realm of their world from the outside. They can’t, don’t want to. Never really needed to, I guess.

Willem
Willem
May 9, 2021 8:57 AM
Reply to  Platov

‘I have largely assimilated into American culture but there is an important part of me that remains distinctly Russian’

That is the clue. People who have been displaced to other parts of the world are forced to see their world through the world of someone else. It makes you kind of out of place and in a way it is cruel. You may feel, and may even be treated as a misfit and an outsider. Someone who is not capable to play along. And you must learn to not care. I know what I talk about. I lived as a youth outside NL for years in a different country with a different language and a different culture and so was also ‘out of place’ and had to come to terms with it in order to understand why I was out of place. Being forced to be out of place is a great way of learning how to think for yourself.

Maybe we should do a poll here as a sort of scientific excercise, in how many commenters here have lived parts of their lives (and maybe especially their youth) in other countries with different language, different culture and were therefore forced to look at the new world as if they were an outsider. I think the percentage of outsiders here is much higher than compared to ‘normal society’ who read ‘the guardian’ types of newspapers and which they can except as ‘reality’ as it perfectly fits their reality and always has.

Brianboro
Brianboro
May 9, 2021 10:36 AM
Reply to  Willem

Yes, when you live in a different culture but especially with a different language then you analyse the views of, for example, history and your adopted countries view of the same history. It’s very revealing how much distortion and lies you have been taught both at school and also within popular culture such as cinema.

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 12:00 PM
Reply to  Willem

I’ve lived in different countries/regions throughout my life. I never liked to travel the way people do, go someplace, stand in awe in front of some fucking building, and then fuck off back home to my cage. The way I live my life is that I go someplace, settle down, let the place become part of me and me part of it, and the I keep going. The Czechs have a saying “You’re as many times a man as the number of languages you speak”, meaning that the more cultures you absorb, the richer you are, and I guess this is what it means.
 

Anyway, I think that my travels have been the RESULT of me being an outsider/dissenter in the first place, rather than being the CAUSE. I’ve always wanted to be myself, see the world though my own eyes. And I never really was afraid of being alone. I certainly prefer being by myself than being a member of a group where I have to conform to their rules, whatever they are. So, I think that I was initially going from a place to place in an effort to find a place where I’d fit in, and then, when I realized that it’s pretty much the same everywhere, it became a way of life. I should mention though that there are places where black sheep are treated more tolerantly than others.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
May 9, 2021 9:02 PM
Reply to  Jacques

I should mention though that there are places where black sheep are treated more tolerantly than others.

I find that because the areas in S America, and now Mexico, where I’ve lived the last two decades don’t entirely understand my culture (no reason why they should) it’s easier to be an outcast.
My parents emigrated to Kanada when I was a baby but my mother soon returned to London as she couldn’t stand the abject ignorance and lack of any culture or thought. All people talked about was how much this or that cost.

Jacques
Jacques
May 10, 2021 1:34 PM
Reply to  Grace Johns

I lived in Canada for quite a while, in fact I’m a Canadian citizen.

Ontario was the pits. There was so much pressure to conform that I fled at the earliest opportunity. It was only marginally better in the US. But I found Quebec rather tolerant, at least in the North American context. And there was some discussion, given Quebeckers’ obsession with sovereignty. There was stuff to talk about, however far-fetched some of it might have been.

Anyway, I’ve long ago given up on finding a place populated by enlightened people that would chat about things other than “how much this or that costs”. Actually, I now live in an enclave inhabited by refugees from the city who are more or less on the same wavelength.

I’m told that the Canary Islands is alright and it’s actually where I was headed once all my kids are self-sufficient. Not sure now, with the CV shite.

Jan J
Jan J
May 9, 2021 3:36 PM
Reply to  Willem

I think you’re on to something here. I also spent some years abroad in my youth. What this did to me was to make me an outsider in both cultures – my native and my host culture. It was as you say cruel, but also a tremendous learning experience. The only way to truly understand the follies of your own culture is to view it as an outsider would. It’s like being in a maze: from the inside of the maze, it’s impossible to really understand the twists and turns, but if you zoom out and view it from a birds eye perspective, kind of easy. This is the benefit of having perspective on culture and society – which most people lack. It’s hard to discover truths about your own culture from a perspective of being inside at “ground level” in said culture – easier on the outside, because going from “one truth” to “it’s relative and they do it differently here” enables a momentous shift in consciousness.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
May 9, 2021 6:24 PM
Reply to  Willem

I have: I was ‘out of place’ in my home country for 17 years, then very happy, albeit still an accepted ‘outsider’ in Austria for 10 months. I lived 4 months in Switzerland in 1990, 4 months in Leipzig in 1999 and in all cases it was obvious to me that the unspoken assumptions of the UK ‘culture’ were not identical in either Austria, Germany or Switzerland.

What I actually learned was that nations which lost in WWII had gone through far greater introspection than the UK and had very different skill sets to the UK Establishment.

I could also see clear evidence of the Communist East Germany in its buildings: loads of them still had masses of bullet holes from WWII in 1999, but the ones that had been restored through West German money were truly, truly magnificent.

Not surprisingly the Austrians had a different view on WWI to the British and my most valuable history lessons growing up occurred in an Austrian classroom as I was able to compare their view of history with the British one. It was then that I learned that there are always multiple views on historical events and the most logical thing to do when visiting any new country is to try and understand how that host country views history in some way or other….

Switzerland was a very different experience, as back in 1990 it was much more emotionally closed than Austria was in 1982/3. It has evolved hugely since then as I saw with regular visits over the following 20 years. Anyone who grew up in the 1970s with British Rail could only be amazed at the absolute punctuality of the Swiss Rail System in 1990. Short of landslides, trees down or hurricane force winds blowing, nothing ever delayed any train whatsoever. It taught me that British excuses were just that: British excuses.

I also experienced the finest DJ in a disco ever, not because he was a cool hipster, no, he was about 70 years old, wore a floppy white hat, but made sure that people of all ages could come along and enjoy a dance sometime from 8.30pm to 2am by ensuring that the music he played catered for the tastes of all his clientele as the evening evolved (you know, older folk probably go to bed earlier than younger folk, so cater for them earlier on): when he died 2 years later, the whole village mourned. To an ‘outcast’ from the UK, here was a lesson that having a hot body had nothing to do with being a great DJ, what mattered was understanding your guests/customers and giving them all a great time.

Abroad, I thought for myself because there was no-one from the ‘old society’ trying to tell me what to think.

IN the UK, I learned to think for myself when confronted by situations which the ‘Establishment’ said couldn’t happen. I had flagged up their possibilities several years earlier, but those who got all the promotions had waved it all away with a quick emotional outburst. It taught me that you got to the top not through prescience nor insight, but through political correctness.

To be honest, I tried to force myself to be politically correct for many years. The only person it damaged was me. When you cross certain rubicons in life, you can’t pretend that they didn’t happen, your soul knows that they did and has adjusted accordingly. To stay sane, I learned to mouth soundlessly ‘What a load of f***king bollocks!’ under my breath, reducing it to the acryonym WALOFB for communicational purposes.

British Society relies on innocent ignorance to maintain its hierarchies, perhaps that is necessary to glue together those of different ages? The problem comes for those of us who lost our innocence through events of fate, not through any desire to have done so.

I understood folk from Eastern Europe far more intuitively than I ever understood the English: they had lived under sufferance in a Communist bloc and I had lived in a similar way in a power culture within a small part of the UK. It was a meeting of those with similar hinterlands: never discussed, but we seemed to be on the same conversational wavelengths….

There comes a point when you know that being politically correct will get you nowhere, so you just start to speak your own truth because you have nothing left to lose. Of course that has consequences, but that is the price you pay for integrity in the end……

Willem
Willem
May 9, 2021 7:35 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Thank you Rhys. That was very good.

You saying: ‘ The problem comes for those of us who lost our innocence through events of fate, not through any desire to have done so.’ Well, that is true for me. Experience is everything. And even though not every experience is wished for or should be wished for, I somehow seem to have grown from these events of fate by trying to see these events for what they were or what they are in my own opinion and in which opinion I try not to spare anyone (i.e., being politically correct) including myself. That can lead to long trains of thought in which I sometimes am only able to fully understand the event years after the event occurred (and some events I still don’t understand, but I am working on it…) Trying to understand experience in that way for me is like being a tree that slowly but firmly grows into a big full blossomed tree. People not able to experience events because they are ‘politically correct’ (to others and to themselves), they are also trees, but twisted and turned and overshadowed, a potential never used to its full possibilities and for what? – because, if a tree would have nerves, it would probably hurt every time it would grow. They fear the pain that comes with growing and take the easy way out, they think, by not wanting to grow.

Not sure if the analogy fits, or whether I am rambling now. Anyway..

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 9, 2021 11:07 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Methyenedioxymethamphetamine

mgeo
mgeo
May 10, 2021 6:20 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

the most logical thing to do when visiting any new country is to.. not be a loudmouth.

Political correctness is an effective form of political propaganda.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 11:54 AM
Reply to  Platov

I’m third generation born in the US part ethnic Russian and I’m mostly like that. Runs in my father’s family.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 4:24 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Would the coward who downvoted my post about a little of my own ethnicity step forth?

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 4:22 PM
Reply to  Platov

Are you descended from Platov the cavalry/cossack commander?

Platov
Platov
May 9, 2021 6:11 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

I wish I were. I use that handle in a vain attempt to possibly make people aware of his remarkable achievements, especially during Napoleon’s disastrous campaign in Russia in 1812. I am of Cossack descent on both sides of my family, Don Cossack on my father’s, and Ukrainian Cossack on my mother’s.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 7:01 PM
Reply to  Platov

Yeah…. I’m of Russian/Georgian/German descent (father’s family) – originally an old Georgian Tbilisi clan that moved into Russian intellectual/government/military positions in the late 1700s. My great grandfather was the only one to immigrate in 1893. They were well educated upper middle class. Many later became reds.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
May 9, 2021 6:10 AM

Some of the terms herein — consciousness, self, ego, etc — may appear somewhat mysterious or abstract as they are explained in earlier sections of the book.

So if I saw Season One, would any of this make a lick of sense or be anything other than a mind-numbing waste of time?

Nostradamus
Nostradamus
May 9, 2021 5:34 AM

I have no idea what this all means. What is he saying???

Jacques
Jacques
May 9, 2021 7:39 AM
Reply to  Nostradamus

In essence, he’s saying that people are fucked up and can’t see that they’re fucked up because they’re fucked up.

It might well be that you’re fucked up too.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 9, 2021 12:57 PM
Reply to  Jacques

You have to be fucked up to understand this article.

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
May 9, 2021 8:14 AM
Reply to  Nostradamus

He is saying that the ego is inherently dishonest, selfish and violent and is not ‘you’. You are not your ego and the more you identify with it the more it rules you. The more present or conscious you are the less ego there is to rule you with fear/worry of the past and hence fear/worry about the future. A waste of time as your fears or worries may never happen and if they do, deal with them in the present as they happen (if they happen) not in an imaginary future or an over past, as the ego would like you to.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
May 9, 2021 10:12 AM

Right DM! The ego is not the quintessential you. In fact it’s usually a considerable nuisance to your central identity with it’s ego-transcending, long-term purpose – a central identity for which I still prefer the old, now-unfashionable name of your immortal soul: re-incarnating for life after life, and having to deal with yet another pesky – and uniquely, awkwardly new – ego every damned time.

Undertaking the sustained work required to transcend your particular ego-of-this-lifetime is a major part of why we’re here at all, lifetime after lifetime, in this ‘universe’-sized holodeck virtual-reality playground.

Anyone wishing to make more detailed sense of my bald statements above should look persistently into Tom Campbell’s Big TOE – his Big Theory Of Everything – to see where modern cutting-edge physics theory is going under the iron imperative of quantum mechanics, as it converges with the several ancient wisdom traditions still extant in the world today. See https://www.my-big-toe.com/

Notice that Tom’s ideas, though he is almost as old as me, are very much in tune with the philosophical-idealism thinking of growing numbers of younger members of the global physics community, who are right now creating a rolling paradigm-shift in the discipline – ‘one death at a time’. 🙂 (Eat your hearts out, Dawkinsoids! LOL! :O) )

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
May 9, 2021 1:55 PM

Thank you RG, I will check out Tom Campbell’s Big Toe.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
May 9, 2021 9:08 PM
Reply to  Nostradamus

Not to invest your identity in shite and not to let that identity rule your thought