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		By: imogene		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/06/16/red-flag-laws-put-a-target-on-the-back-of-every-american/#comment-517454</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 17:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/06/16/red-flag-laws-put-a-target-on-the-back-of-every-american/#comment-514447&quot;&gt;Art&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, nearly all the mass murders that make the &quot;spectacle&quot; news have serious mental health problems.  This is documented.

Firearms are not the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/06/16/red-flag-laws-put-a-target-on-the-back-of-every-american/#comment-514447">Art</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, nearly all the mass murders that make the &#8220;spectacle&#8221; news have serious mental health problems.  This is documented.</p>
<p>Firearms are not the problem.</p>
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		By: imogene		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 17:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gun homicides annually in the U.S.: 12,000 - 13,000

Deaths from fetanyl overdoses per year: 100,000

Clearly, the obsession with &quot;guns&quot; is not about public health.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gun homicides annually in the U.S.: 12,000 &#8211; 13,000</p>
<p>Deaths from fetanyl overdoses per year: 100,000</p>
<p>Clearly, the obsession with &#8220;guns&#8221; is not about public health.</p>
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		By: Lost in a dark wood		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/06/16/red-flag-laws-put-a-target-on-the-back-of-every-american/#comment-514890</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lost in a dark wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2022 15:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[White Coats vs Guns – Which Kills More?

And what would be the &quot;red flag&quot; warnings for dangerous white-coat owners?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White Coats vs Guns – Which Kills More?</p>
<p>And what would be the &#8220;red flag&#8221; warnings for dangerous white-coat owners?</p>
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		By: Caroline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caroline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2022 20:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like reading a lot of your views and articles but your support for citizen&#039;s right to carry guns in the US is just stupid in my view - from an Australian, but we are also dysfunctional humans here who can work out our differences without guns.
Anyone carrying guns - military, police or citizens is simply fear-based: scardy-cats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like reading a lot of your views and articles but your support for citizen&#8217;s right to carry guns in the US is just stupid in my view &#8211; from an Australian, but we are also dysfunctional humans here who can work out our differences without guns.<br />
Anyone carrying guns &#8211; military, police or citizens is simply fear-based: scardy-cats.</p>
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		By: Lost in a dark wood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lost in a dark wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2022 11:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It doesn’t require a mental-health diagnosis . . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;appear mentally ill . . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;a mental health watch list . . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;a variety of reasons that run the gamut from mental illness . . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;an agency that will take the lead in identifying and targeting “signs” of mental illness . . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This points to the more fundamental problem. People have been conditioned to believe that there is some objective meaning to “mental illness” or “mental health”; and they grant the white-coated priesthood the power of divination in sorting the well from the sick. Those deemed to be “sick” are incarcerated, subject to forced pseudo-medical treatment, tortured, and murdered. There is not even a whiff of due process.

All the arguments were made long ago, but very few people give a damn. However, if society gives these medical-materialist freaks that sort of power, the current mess is the inevitable conclusion.
--

Thomas Szasz (2010):

Formerly, when Church and State were allied, people accepted theological justifications for state-sanctioned coercion. Today, when Medicine and the State are allied, people accept therapeutic justifications for state-sanctioned coercion. This is how, some two hundred years ago, psychiatry became an arm of the coercive apparatus of the state. And this is why today all of medicine threatens to become transformed from personal therapy into political tyranny.
--

https://www.szasz.com/Szasz50newpreface.pdf
https://www.szasz.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It doesn’t require a mental-health diagnosis . . .</p></p><p><p>appear mentally ill . . .</p></p><p><p>a mental health watch list . . .</p></p><p><p>a variety of reasons that run the gamut from mental illness . . .</p></p><p><p>an agency that will take the lead in identifying and targeting “signs” of mental illness . . .</p></blockquote>
<p>This points to the more fundamental problem. People have been conditioned to believe that there is some objective meaning to “mental illness” or “mental health”; and they grant the white-coated priesthood the power of divination in sorting the well from the sick. Those deemed to be “sick” are incarcerated, subject to forced pseudo-medical treatment, tortured, and murdered. There is not even a whiff of due process.</p>
<p>All the arguments were made long ago, but very few people give a damn. However, if society gives these medical-materialist freaks that sort of power, the current mess is the inevitable conclusion.<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>Thomas Szasz (2010):</p>
<p>Formerly, when Church and State were allied, people accepted theological justifications for state-sanctioned coercion. Today, when Medicine and the State are allied, people accept therapeutic justifications for state-sanctioned coercion. This is how, some two hundred years ago, psychiatry became an arm of the coercive apparatus of the state. And this is why today all of medicine threatens to become transformed from personal therapy into political tyranny.<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.szasz.com/Szasz50newpreface.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.szasz.com/Szasz50newpreface.pdf</a><br />
<a href="https://www.szasz.com" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.szasz.com</a></p>
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		By: Art		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2022 16:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s the weapons manufacturers who need to be diagnosed and red flagged. And tell the authors to cease using marginalised persons as an excuse for society’s ills. Mentally ill people live in fear most of the time neither are they the perpetrators of these crimes. It’s the security state that carries out those attack to create instability within society to ramp up surveillance of marginalised persons and monitor every move for profit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the weapons manufacturers who need to be diagnosed and red flagged. And tell the authors to cease using marginalised persons as an excuse for society’s ills. Mentally ill people live in fear most of the time neither are they the perpetrators of these crimes. It’s the security state that carries out those attack to create instability within society to ramp up surveillance of marginalised persons and monitor every move for profit.</p>
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		By: mik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2022 15:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I probably wouldn&#039;t comment, but next quote made me do it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Anything—&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heritage.org/firearms/commentary/6-reasons-gun-control-will-not-solve-mass-killings&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;noopener nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;knives, vehicles, planes,&lt;/a&gt;&#160;pressure cookers—can become a weapon when wielded with deadly intentions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;So...weapons are already all around us, therefore adding guns to the mix, kind of, makes no substantial difference...??
This is the stupidest argument floated in the gun debate.
Guns are tools made for killing, meticulously designed and crafted for the purpose. Decades of Science and Technology delivered formidable products. With a gun virtually anybody can intuitively almost effortlessly deliver his/her Deadly Will up to hundreds of meters. Yeah, in a clean manner, unlike many other weapons.

I&#039;m just fine with Americans having guns, I&#039;m just sick of the rationale for gun-ownership. There is nothing rational in having a gun. Particularly funny is: being armed against the government. Seems to me somebody took David and Goliath too seriously....yeah, that&#039;s probably me, European. Let them have their guns although it&#039;s irrational. At the end it&#039;s true, gun user is killer, not a gun.
It&#039;s amazing how much of the armament is available in US. On gootube I&#039;ve seen videos of target practising with 0,5 cal Browning and 20mm type cannons. Holy cow, that&#039;s some fire power. Then I found out 40mm grenade launchers are deemed handheld weapons by nato. Then I recalled pressure cookers from the article and came up with question: are rpgs available in hardware stores in US. I mean, rpg is just an enhanced pressure cooker. It cannot cook, but it can ka-booom. It flies, but anything can fly today. I&#039;m sure there is some underground armoury that produces vicinity detonators (you know what I mean) .
Rpg with vicinity fuse, nasty weapon in trained hands, maybe I said too much because of the Machine. The Machine likely has recorded that I possess some knowledge, but what I&#039;ve done is dissemination...
Unfortunately, I think most of american private armoury might produce a tragedy. At the beginning of scamdemic I&#039;ve read an article from &lt;em&gt;Brandon Smith&lt;/em&gt; posted on &lt;em&gt;alt-market.us&lt;/em&gt; . It was way worse than this:
https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/america-is-heading-straight-for-a-civil-war-it-is-obvious-and-frightening/
Lets say he is a prepper, a bright mind in a way, but that time he was into SHTF mode and talking to be prepared for the invasion of redundant people from the cities, who will scavenge through the counrty, looting....his narrative depicted in my mind: series Walking Dead.

Yes, we are living a real world instantiation of 1984.

Therefore amendments, constitutions, rights and similar: you can stick them into your a......no, not really. That place has already been occupied/invaded.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably wouldn&#8217;t comment, but next quote made me do it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Anything—<a href="https://www.heritage.org/firearms/commentary/6-reasons-gun-control-will-not-solve-mass-killings" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">knives, vehicles, planes,</a>&nbsp;pressure cookers—can become a weapon when wielded with deadly intentions.</p></blockquote>
<p>So&#8230;weapons are already all around us, therefore adding guns to the mix, kind of, makes no substantial difference&#8230;??<br />
This is the stupidest argument floated in the gun debate.<br />
Guns are tools made for killing, meticulously designed and crafted for the purpose. Decades of Science and Technology delivered formidable products. With a gun virtually anybody can intuitively almost effortlessly deliver his/her Deadly Will up to hundreds of meters. Yeah, in a clean manner, unlike many other weapons.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just fine with Americans having guns, I&#8217;m just sick of the rationale for gun-ownership. There is nothing rational in having a gun. Particularly funny is: being armed against the government. Seems to me somebody took David and Goliath too seriously&#8230;.yeah, that&#8217;s probably me, European. Let them have their guns although it&#8217;s irrational. At the end it&#8217;s true, gun user is killer, not a gun.<br />
It&#8217;s amazing how much of the armament is available in US. On gootube I&#8217;ve seen videos of target practising with 0,5 cal Browning and 20mm type cannons. Holy cow, that&#8217;s some fire power. Then I found out 40mm grenade launchers are deemed handheld weapons by nato. Then I recalled pressure cookers from the article and came up with question: are rpgs available in hardware stores in US. I mean, rpg is just an enhanced pressure cooker. It cannot cook, but it can ka-booom. It flies, but anything can fly today. I&#8217;m sure there is some underground armoury that produces vicinity detonators (you know what I mean) .<br />
Rpg with vicinity fuse, nasty weapon in trained hands, maybe I said too much because of the Machine. The Machine likely has recorded that I possess some knowledge, but what I&#8217;ve done is dissemination&#8230;<br />
Unfortunately, I think most of american private armoury might produce a tragedy. At the beginning of scamdemic I&#8217;ve read an article from <em>Brandon Smith</em> posted on <em>alt-market.us</em> . It was way worse than this:<br />
<a href="https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/america-is-heading-straight-for-a-civil-war-it-is-obvious-and-frightening/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/america-is-heading-straight-for-a-civil-war-it-is-obvious-and-frightening/</a><br />
Lets say he is a prepper, a bright mind in a way, but that time he was into SHTF mode and talking to be prepared for the invasion of redundant people from the cities, who will scavenge through the counrty, looting&#8230;.his narrative depicted in my mind: series Walking Dead.</p>
<p>Yes, we are living a real world instantiation of 1984.</p>
<p>Therefore amendments, constitutions, rights and similar: you can stick them into your a&#8230;&#8230;no, not really. That place has already been occupied/invaded.</p>
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		By: Reader		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t read this now. It is too upsetting, and I have lots of other work to do. During these past couple of years of fear, confusion, and oppression, I have paid attention to find a few reliable and trustworthy writers and thinkers to read, listen to, and consider as they are closely tracking information and developments when sometimes I get overwhelmed and can&#039;t track. Most mainstream news lately has been worthless and full of lies and propaganda. Major media outlets were paid money from the federal government to advertise the government&#039;s covid agenda and promote vaccines, for which safety information is still incomplete. Certain companies and individuals have made billions of dollars in profits. These big tech and big pharma profits are similar to profits companies make a spart of the military industrial complex during the U.S. and U.K.&#039;s wars. Truths will continue to be revealed, and goodness and light will return.  This writer, John Whitehead, is probably someone to seriously consider because he is an independent thinker, not allied with any political party, and has studied the U.S. Constitution and governments for his whole career. I think it is his life&#039;s work. 

Naomi Wolf is also someone to seriously consider. She is ruthlessly and fearlessly tracking what has been happening in the U.S. and around the world. I am reading her book, The Bodies of Others, now. She is a luminary, mother, writer, and thinker. Here is link to a recent interview. Her recent interview with Jan Jekielek on Epoch Times&#039; American Thought Leaders is excellent. Here is another interview with Wolf:

https://www.independent.org/multimedia/detail.asp?id=6328]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t read this now. It is too upsetting, and I have lots of other work to do. During these past couple of years of fear, confusion, and oppression, I have paid attention to find a few reliable and trustworthy writers and thinkers to read, listen to, and consider as they are closely tracking information and developments when sometimes I get overwhelmed and can&#8217;t track. Most mainstream news lately has been worthless and full of lies and propaganda. Major media outlets were paid money from the federal government to advertise the government&#8217;s covid agenda and promote vaccines, for which safety information is still incomplete. Certain companies and individuals have made billions of dollars in profits. These big tech and big pharma profits are similar to profits companies make a spart of the military industrial complex during the U.S. and U.K.&#8217;s wars. Truths will continue to be revealed, and goodness and light will return.  This writer, John Whitehead, is probably someone to seriously consider because he is an independent thinker, not allied with any political party, and has studied the U.S. Constitution and governments for his whole career. I think it is his life&#8217;s work. </p>
<p>Naomi Wolf is also someone to seriously consider. She is ruthlessly and fearlessly tracking what has been happening in the U.S. and around the world. I am reading her book, The Bodies of Others, now. She is a luminary, mother, writer, and thinker. Here is link to a recent interview. Her recent interview with Jan Jekielek on Epoch Times&#8217; American Thought Leaders is excellent. Here is another interview with Wolf:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.independent.org/multimedia/detail.asp?id=6328" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.independent.org/multimedia/detail.asp?id=6328</a></p>
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		By: S Cooper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Cooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/06/16/red-flag-laws-put-a-target-on-the-back-of-every-american/#comment-514355&quot;&gt;S Cooper&lt;/a&gt;.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/06/16/red-flag-laws-put-a-target-on-the-back-of-every-american/#comment-514355">S Cooper</a>.</p>
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