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		By: Mann Friedmann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mann Friedmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2023 17:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/27/the-doubt-of-a-trout/#comment-574476&quot;&gt;NickM&lt;/a&gt;.

But not &quot;tech before human beings&quot;.
My meat computer has many more gigs in it than a smart phone. I can conjure up easily in my head anything I have listened to in analog.
No use of questionable labour and work safety practices to produce something to achieve activation of neurons.
No invoking of Christ as the only way out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/27/the-doubt-of-a-trout/#comment-574476">NickM</a>.</p>
<p>But not &#8220;tech before human beings&#8221;.<br />
My meat computer has many more gigs in it than a smart phone. I can conjure up easily in my head anything I have listened to in analog.<br />
No use of questionable labour and work safety practices to produce something to achieve activation of neurons.<br />
No invoking of Christ as the only way out.</p>
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		By: Mann Friedmann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mann Friedmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2023 17:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have freaked out a fellow I used to bike with.
I hadn&#039;t seen him in about 6 years. I was on my bike; he was walking.
Of course, the talk went almost exclusively towards my bike and my present take on bike tech.
&quot;What? no Computer on your bike?!&quot;
&quot;Which home training kit you use? Swift or Strava?
Well, even though I run a bike shop it is not retail but only service and repair. I want nothing to do with the &quot;new &quot; generation of tech know-it-alls. Mechanical operation, please.
So I say, &quot;I don&#039;t bother. I just ride the bike.&quot;
Or, &quot;I will not do electronic shiffting. With the ease of operation of mechanical electronic shifting is redundant.&quot;
&quot;Why are you blowing the tech off,&quot; he cries.
Me, &quot;(Sigh) Because I have an attention span! I am happy to ride without any electronics, including personal music. Ya know, I plug my ears with industrial plugs so I can keep my head or lose it, as I choose.&quot;
&quot;That&#039;s just fucking stupid! There are so many training programs that you can keep going forever!&quot;
Sigh. &quot;I am 63 years old. Who, where and why should I bother training. I do not feel any lack for going &quot;Sunday afternoon married-man fit!&quot; (Weekend warrior)

You get the picture. Those that are bored of tech are not bored! There is so much richness left by living on intuition and not wasting time to internet research every consumer lost leader that comes around, then rationalizing its purchase. There is much enjoyment being the only person in a queue not vegging on a phone. Often, when I know there is time to pass I will bring a novel. Even sitting for a half hour staring at trees or clouds or the wall can be therapeutic!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have freaked out a fellow I used to bike with.<br />
I hadn&#8217;t seen him in about 6 years. I was on my bike; he was walking.<br />
Of course, the talk went almost exclusively towards my bike and my present take on bike tech.<br />
&#8220;What? no Computer on your bike?!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Which home training kit you use? Swift or Strava?<br />
Well, even though I run a bike shop it is not retail but only service and repair. I want nothing to do with the &#8220;new &#8221; generation of tech know-it-alls. Mechanical operation, please.<br />
So I say, &#8220;I don&#8217;t bother. I just ride the bike.&#8221;<br />
Or, &#8220;I will not do electronic shiffting. With the ease of operation of mechanical electronic shifting is redundant.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Why are you blowing the tech off,&#8221; he cries.<br />
Me, &#8220;(Sigh) Because I have an attention span! I am happy to ride without any electronics, including personal music. Ya know, I plug my ears with industrial plugs so I can keep my head or lose it, as I choose.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s just fucking stupid! There are so many training programs that you can keep going forever!&#8221;<br />
Sigh. &#8220;I am 63 years old. Who, where and why should I bother training. I do not feel any lack for going &#8220;Sunday afternoon married-man fit!&#8221; (Weekend warrior)</p>
<p>You get the picture. Those that are bored of tech are not bored! There is so much richness left by living on intuition and not wasting time to internet research every consumer lost leader that comes around, then rationalizing its purchase. There is much enjoyment being the only person in a queue not vegging on a phone. Often, when I know there is time to pass I will bring a novel. Even sitting for a half hour staring at trees or clouds or the wall can be therapeutic!</p>
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		By: el Gallinazo		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/27/the-doubt-of-a-trout/#comment-575129</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 19:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/27/the-doubt-of-a-trout/#comment-574302&quot;&gt;Sam - Admin&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Sam,  I do not understand the meaning of this paragraph.

&quot;&lt;span&gt;However I might disagree with you when you start referring to our faultless overlords. I feel like this is an unhelpful level of pernicious despair, and rather masochistic. A subtype of ‘govern me harder, daddy’ thinking.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;

&lt;span&gt;Could you elucidate it?  I use the Overlord term sardonically.  That is how they regard themselves.  I do not regard them as &quot;faultIess in any respect. I do not think they will succeed with their &quot;project,&quot;  though I expect them to create much more misery for humanity over the coming decade.&lt;/span&gt;

&lt;span&gt;As to middle managers, I agree when it comes to the power pyramid.  If we know their names, they are middle managers.&lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/27/the-doubt-of-a-trout/#comment-574302">Sam &#8211; Admin</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Sam,  I do not understand the meaning of this paragraph.</p>
<p>&#8220;<span>However I might disagree with you when you start referring to our faultless overlords. I feel like this is an unhelpful level of pernicious despair, and rather masochistic. A subtype of ‘govern me harder, daddy’ thinking.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>Could you elucidate it?  I use the Overlord term sardonically.  That is how they regard themselves.  I do not regard them as &#8220;faultIess in any respect. I do not think they will succeed with their &#8220;project,&#8221;  though I expect them to create much more misery for humanity over the coming decade.</span></p>
<p><span>As to middle managers, I agree when it comes to the power pyramid.  If we know their names, they are middle managers.</span></p>
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		By: Howard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 16:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/27/the-doubt-of-a-trout/#comment-574823&quot;&gt;Frances Leader&lt;/a&gt;.

Until 5G is fully up and running, the only thing one can effectively do to limit (but not eliminate, of course) electro-magnetic radiation is get as far away from cell phone towers as possible - but I&#039;m sure you already know that.

Once 5G is on every street corner, there&#039;s not much to be done.  Leaving the big cities only slows it down: it&#039;ll be everywhere eventually.  

From my own experience, I bought some devices from an online site (Less emf) to cover a router which I specifically told the installer I DID NOT want wi-fi set up on - but which, when I tested it, jumped all the way to the red.

Regarding emf, the old adage &quot;You can run but you can&#039;t hide&quot; pretty much says it all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/27/the-doubt-of-a-trout/#comment-574823">Frances Leader</a>.</p>
<p>Until 5G is fully up and running, the only thing one can effectively do to limit (but not eliminate, of course) electro-magnetic radiation is get as far away from cell phone towers as possible &#8211; but I&#8217;m sure you already know that.</p>
<p>Once 5G is on every street corner, there&#8217;s not much to be done.  Leaving the big cities only slows it down: it&#8217;ll be everywhere eventually.  </p>
<p>From my own experience, I bought some devices from an online site (Less emf) to cover a router which I specifically told the installer I DID NOT want wi-fi set up on &#8211; but which, when I tested it, jumped all the way to the red.</p>
<p>Regarding emf, the old adage &#8220;You can run but you can&#8217;t hide&#8221; pretty much says it all.</p>
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		By: Sue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 11:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Technology has come upon us so quickly I think it&#039;s still magic to many and folk are in awe and feel dependent. I have always had the sense that eventually we&#039;ll get over it and return to a more balanced lifestyle where it becomes nothing more than those tools the use of which is interspersed with normal human living. The human spirit will come to realise just how much the worship of such &#039;gods&#039; is to our detriment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology has come upon us so quickly I think it&#8217;s still magic to many and folk are in awe and feel dependent. I have always had the sense that eventually we&#8217;ll get over it and return to a more balanced lifestyle where it becomes nothing more than those tools the use of which is interspersed with normal human living. The human spirit will come to realise just how much the worship of such &#8216;gods&#8217; is to our detriment.</p>
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		By: TPVR1		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TPVR1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2023 23:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, Sylvia there are many sources for those thoughts that flash through your mind....
Here&#039;s one source: &quot;&lt;em&gt;Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”&lt;/em&gt; (Genesis 3:1)
One the other hand my wife. (of 58 years) who possesses far greater &quot;intuition&quot; than I, will often say to me, &quot;I have this feeling I need to call &quot;so and so&quot;. (with whom she hasn&#039;t any contact in six months or so), and invariably something has recently transpired in their lives and they were so happy for the call and to share that &quot;something&quot; with someone from her past that she trusted deeply. 
All this to say that we live in both physical and spiritual realms. &quot;&lt;em&gt;Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; (1John:4:1)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Sylvia there are many sources for those thoughts that flash through your mind&#8230;.<br />
Here&#8217;s one source: &#8220;<em>Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”</em> (Genesis 3:1)<br />
One the other hand my wife. (of 58 years) who possesses far greater &#8220;intuition&#8221; than I, will often say to me, &#8220;I have this feeling I need to call &#8220;so and so&#8221;. (with whom she hasn&#8217;t any contact in six months or so), and invariably something has recently transpired in their lives and they were so happy for the call and to share that &#8220;something&#8221; with someone from her past that she trusted deeply.<br />
All this to say that we live in both physical and spiritual realms. &#8220;<em>Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.&#8221;</em> (1John:4:1)</p>
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		By: Frances Leader		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frances Leader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2023 22:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I may be a rarity in the world but I have never owned a smart phone and don&#039;t use a mobile phone at all. I prefer to use a hard-wired laptop, via a router connected to a landline. It is very efficient and limits (slightly) the amount of electro-magnetic radiation I am subjected to.... however, my electrosmog meter tells me that, regardless of my efforts to eliminate WIFI devices from my home, I am still bombarded with multiple and pulsed signals from my neighbours and overhead satellites.
Short of dressing entirely in aluminium foil, what protection can I find for sale? Only silver threaded clothing and bed canopies which cost a small fortune!
We should not have to protect ourselves from invasive weaponry being beamed at us 24/7!
As your article focuses on how much our opportunities for reverie are curtailed and how much this changes the mind state of children, I would suggest that the issue of electro-magnetic radiation has far more serious impacts on the health of all living things. I would also like to point out the alarming similarities between the symptoms named as reactions to Covid19 and those KNOWN to be caused by certain electro-magnetic frequencies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be a rarity in the world but I have never owned a smart phone and don&#8217;t use a mobile phone at all. I prefer to use a hard-wired laptop, via a router connected to a landline. It is very efficient and limits (slightly) the amount of electro-magnetic radiation I am subjected to&#8230;. however, my electrosmog meter tells me that, regardless of my efforts to eliminate WIFI devices from my home, I am still bombarded with multiple and pulsed signals from my neighbours and overhead satellites.<br />
Short of dressing entirely in aluminium foil, what protection can I find for sale? Only silver threaded clothing and bed canopies which cost a small fortune!<br />
We should not have to protect ourselves from invasive weaponry being beamed at us 24/7!<br />
As your article focuses on how much our opportunities for reverie are curtailed and how much this changes the mind state of children, I would suggest that the issue of electro-magnetic radiation has far more serious impacts on the health of all living things. I would also like to point out the alarming similarities between the symptoms named as reactions to Covid19 and those KNOWN to be caused by certain electro-magnetic frequencies.</p>
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		By: syl shawcross		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[syl shawcross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you all for your kind (and maybe even the unkind one) words. I&#039;ll refrain from interrupting the flow of dialogue here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for your kind (and maybe even the unkind one) words. I&#8217;ll refrain from interrupting the flow of dialogue here.</p>
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		By: syl shawcross		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[syl shawcross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/27/the-doubt-of-a-trout/#comment-574202&quot;&gt;wardropper&lt;/a&gt;.

I hope you&#039;ll forgive me my next opinion piece wardropper.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/27/the-doubt-of-a-trout/#comment-574202">wardropper</a>.</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll forgive me my next opinion piece wardropper.</p>
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