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“A Victory for Farmers”: Supreme Court Halts Genetically Modified Rice

The Deception of Development and the Politics of Progress

Colin Todhunter

On 19 April 2024, the Philippines Supreme Court issued a cease-and-desist order on the commercial propagation of genetically modified (GM) Golden Rice and GM eggplant in the country.

The Stop Golden Rice Network says that the court decision is a victory for farmers and consumers everywhere as the decision goes beyond Golden Rice and insecticidal eggplant and covers “any application for contained use, field testing, direct use as food or feed or processing, commercial propagation, and importation of GMOs.”

The court recognised that government agencies and other proponents of GM Golden Rice and GM eggplant “failed to submit proof of safety and compliance with all legal requirements.” The order remains indefinite until GMO proponents can fulfil all the mandated steps and provide concrete evidence that these GMOs are indeed safe.

A network of farmers, consumers and civil society organisations, Stop Golden Rice emphasises the need to address hunger and malnutrition through securing small farmers’ control over resources such as seed, appropriate technologies, water and land.

The campaign group says:

We believe that GM crops are primarily pushed by global monopoly capitalists in food and agriculture… there is already irrevocable evidence of the failure of GM crops and how it has contributed to further indebtedness, crop failures, hunger and loss of biodiversity.”

It states that the court’s decision shows that ordinary people can prevail in the face of corporate power.

The story of Golden Rice 

Vitamin A deficiency is a problem in many poor countries in the Global South and leaves millions at high risk of infection, diseases and other maladies, such as blindness.

The agritech industry has long argued that Golden Rice is a practical way to provide poor farmers in remote areas with a subsistence crop capable of adding much-needed vitamin A to local diets. Lobbyists say that Golden Rice, developed with funding from the Rockefeller Foundation, could help save the lives of around 670,000 children who die each year from Vitamin A deficiency and another 350,000 who go blind.

Such claims, however, are based more on spin than reality, and, over the years, the interests behind Golden Rice have wasted no time in attacking anyone who questioned it.

As Britain’s Environment Secretary in 2013, the now disgraced Owen Paterson claimed that opponents of GM were “casting a dark shadow over attempts to feed the world”. He called for the rapid roll-out of vitamin A-enhanced rice to help prevent the cause of up to a third of the world’s child deaths. He claimed:

It’s just disgusting that little children are allowed to go blind and die because of a hang-up by a small number of people about this technology. I feel really strongly about it. I think what they do is absolutely wicked.”

On Twitter, The Observer’s Nick Cohen chimed in with his support by tweeting:

There is no greater example of ignorant Western privilege causing needless misery than the campaign against genetically modified golden rice.”

The rhetoric took the well-worn cynically devised PR line that anti-GM activists and environmentalists are little more than privileged, affluent people residing in rich countries and are denying the poor the supposed benefits of GM crops.

Despite these smears and emotional blackmail, in a 2016 article in the journal Agriculture & Human Values Glenn Stone and Dominic Glover found little evidence that activists were to blame for Golden Rice’s unfulfilled promises.

Researchers still had problems developing beta carotene-enriched strains that yield as well as non-GM strains already being grown by farmers. It was questionable whether the beta carotene in Golden Rice could even be converted to vitamin A in the bodies of badly undernourished children. There had also been little research on how well the beta carotene in Golden Rice would hold up when stored for long periods between harvest seasons or when cooked using traditional methods common in remote rural locations.

In the meantime, Glenn Stone noted that that, as the development of Golden Rice crept along, the Philippines had managed to slash the incidence of Vitamin A deficiency by non-GM methods.

So, whose interests were really being served in the push for Golden Rice?

In 2011, Marcia Ishii-Eiteman, a senior scientist with a background in insect ecology and pest management, answered this question:

An elite, so-called Humanitarian Board where Syngenta sits – along with the inventors of Golden Rice, Rockefeller Foundation, USAID and public relations and marketing experts, among a handful of others. Not a single farmer, indigenous person or even an ecologist or sociologist to assess the huge political, social and ecological implications of this massive experiment. And the leader of IRRI’s Golden Rice project is none other than Gerald Barry, previously Director of Research at Monsanto.”

Sarojeni V Rengam, executive director of Pesticide Action Network Asia and the Pacific, called on the donors and scientists involved to wake up and do the right thing:

Golden Rice is really a ‘Trojan horse’; a public relations stunt pulled by the agribusiness corporations to garner acceptance of genetically engineered (GE) crops and food… money and efforts would be better spent on restoring natural and agricultural biodiversity rather than destroying it by promoting monoculture plantations and GE food crops.”

To tackle disease, malnutrition and poverty, you have to first understand the underlying causes – or indeed want to understand them.

Renowned academic Walden Bello notes that the complex of policies that pushed the Philippines into an economic quagmire over the past few decades is due to ‘structural adjustment’ that included the restructuring of agriculture and export-oriented production.

And that restructuring of the agrarian economy is something touched on by Claire Robinson of GMWatch who notes that leafy green vegetables used to be grown in backyards as well as in rice (paddy) fields on the banks between the flooded ditches in which the rice grew.

Ditches also contained fish, which ate pests. People thus had access to rice, green leafy veg and fish – a balanced diet that gave them a healthy mix of nutrients, including plenty of beta-carotene.

But indigenous crops and farming systems have been replaced by monocultures dependent on chemical inputs. Green leafy veg were killed off with pesticides, artificial fertilisers were introduced, and the fish could not live in the resulting chemically contaminated water. Moreover, decreased access to land meant that many people no longer had backyards containing leafy green veg.

Blindness in developing countries could have been eradicated years ago if only the money, research and publicity put into Golden Rice over the last 20 years had gone into proven ways of addressing Vitamin A deficiency. However, instead of pursuing genuine solutions, what we have seen is pro-GM spin in an attempt to close down debate.

Technology and development

If the discussion so far tells us anything, it is that technology is not neutral. It is developed and promoted by people who want to cement their control over a sector and stand to financially gain from its rollout.

All too often, politicians, corporations and the media equate new technology with ‘progress’. And those who question it, as we see with GMOs, are called Luddites or anti-science in order to prevent proper debate over the social, economic and ethical concerns of rolling out a given technology.

Take the Green Revolution, for instance. There was nothing progressive, inevitable or neutral about its seed, chemical and related infrastructure technology.

Despite it being rolled out under the banner of ‘progress’, it underperformed, was exploitative and has had devastating social, ecological and environmental impacts (see the writings of Prof. Glenn Stone, Vandana Shiva and Bhaskar Save). It served US geopolitical, financial and agribusiness interests and prioritised urban-industrial expansion at the expense of rural communities and a more diverse, healthy and nutrient-sufficient agriculture.

But the Green Revolution became integral to the ‘development’ agenda.

In a recent article on the Winter Oak website, Paul Cudenec says that ‘development’:

…is the destruction of nature, now seen as a mere resource to be used for development or as an empty undeveloped space in which development could, should and, ultimately, must take place. It is the destruction of natural human communities, whose self-sufficiency gets in the way of the advance of development, and of authentic human culture and traditional values, which are incompatible with the dogma and domination of development.”

Cudenec argues that those behind ‘development’ have been destroying everything of real value in our natural world and our human societies in the pursuit of personal wealth and power. Moreover, they have concealed this crime behind all the positive-sounding rhetoric associated with development on every level.

Nowhere is this more apparent than in India.

The World Bank, the World Trade Organization, global agribusiness and financial capital are working to corporatise India’s agriculture sector. This ‘structural adjustment’ policy and process involves displacing the current food production system with contract farming and an industrial model of agriculture and food retail that serves the above interests.

The plan is to displace the peasantry, create a land market and amalgamate landholdings to form larger farms that are more suited to international land investors and export-oriented industrial farming.

The demand is that India sacrifice its farmers and its own food security for the benefit of a handful of billionaires. This is all passed off as ‘development’.

It involves the state facilitating the enrichment of a wealthy elite and privileging a certain model of social and economic development based on urban sprawl, centralised power and dependency on global finance, corporations, markets and supply chains. All legitimised under the banners of innovation, technological progress and ‘development’.

There are other pathways that humanity can take. Anthropologist Felix Padel and researcher Malvika Gupta offer some insights (based on their work with India’s Adivasi communities) into what the solutions or alternatives to ‘development’ might look like:

Democracy as consensus politics rather than the Western model of liberal democracy that perpetuates division and corruption behind the scenes; exchange labour rather than the ruthless, anti-life logic of ‘the market’; law as reconciliation rather than judgements that depend on exorbitant legal fees and divide people into winners and losers… and learning as something to be shared, not competed over.”

However, we see more ‘development’ being proposed: more rural population displacement and human dislocation, more mining, port and other big infrastructure developments and the further entrenchment of corporate interests and their projects.

While many have a different vision for the future, self-interest and consumerism underpinned by economic neoliberal dogma continue to seduce the masses into accepting the prevailing ‘development’ agenda.

Corporate industrial agriculture is integral to that agenda. A model that took hold half a century ago in the Western nations and which has resulted in nutrient-deficient food, narrower diets, the massive use of agrochemicals, food contaminated by hormones, steroids, antibiotics and a wide range of chemical additives, the eradication of many smallholder farmers, spiralling rates of ill health, degraded soil and contaminated and depleted water supplies.

That’s ‘progress’? Well, agribusiness interests aside, perhaps so for the many private health clinics that have sprung up in India in recent years.

The introduction of GMOs represents a further entrenchment of the prevailing ‘development’ agenda.

The decision by the Philippines Supreme Court called out government agencies and those behind the Golden Rice agenda for key failures. This is important for India, whose Supreme Court is about to decide on whether to sanction the commercial cultivation of GM mustard. It would be India’s first GM food crop (of which there are many more in the pipeline).

Will India’s Supreme Court come down on the side of reason and stop GM mustard on the basis of there being no need for GMOs in Indian agriculture and the well-documented fraud and regulatory delinquency that has surrounded this issue for many years?

That remains to be seen.

Colin Todhunter specialises in food, agriculture and development and is a research associate of the Centre for Research on Globalization in Montreal. You can read his two free books Food, Dependency and Dispossession: Resisting the New World Order and Sickening Profits: The Global Food System’s Poisoned Food and Toxic Wealth here.

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antonym
antonym
May 11, 2024 7:34 AM

The story of (Indian) Mustard oil:
Sometimes, blind faith in poorly done science with questionable economic interests might not be a good idea. The ban on Mustard oil is a great example. On the basis of some animal studies in the 1970s, US & EU have banned mustard oil for sale as a cooking oil because it contains high amounts of erucic acid, and instead what you can buy is the closely related genetically modified cousin – Canola, which is made from rapeseed, a close cousin of the mustard.

NickM
NickM
May 2, 2024 4:32 PM

From your Link Walden Bello notes

“Walden Bello attributed the Philippines economic quagmire primarily on wrong-policy narrative rather than on corruption discourse, without downplaying the latter. He noted that the complex of policies that pushed the Philippines into the economic quagmire over the last 30 years can be summed up by a formidable term: structural “adjustment” . Also known as neoliberal restructuring, it involves prioritizing debt repayment, huge cutbacks in government spending, [plus] privatization, deregulation, and export-oriented production. Structural “adjustment” came to the Philippines courtesy of the World Bank, the IMF, and the World Trade Organization (WTO), but local technocrats disseminated the [Shock] doctrine.”

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 3, 2024 3:21 AM
Reply to  NickM

Hail the local technocrats. The question is whether the economic quagmire is on paper only and the local economy sustainable.
Same procedure as in every place with US presence to defend IMF IBRD. m.m.

antonym
antonym
May 5, 2024 2:34 AM
Reply to  NickM

Never anything against the Huge Dragon in the Asian room…..

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 2, 2024 7:19 AM

An excellent and uplifting article for the always excellent Colin Todhunter! There maybe some hope yet …
Kudos to OG. You folks have been providing superb content lately. Thanks!

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
May 1, 2024 10:03 PM

You are what you eat.

Researcher
Researcher
May 1, 2024 7:49 PM

Ever wonder what caused your gluten sensitivity, seasonal illnesses and allergy symptoms? Not your genes, that’s for sure.

RoundUp Glyphosate: POPULATION CONTROL WEAPON, Funded by Rockefeller.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 1, 2024 3:41 PM

I love my cheeseburger and my golden rice no matter what you say, as I believe in my government.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
May 1, 2024 9:32 AM

Amazing. An Asian country achieves what is beyond the supreme leadership of the world and the most freedom-loving- and democratic country on earth, the United States of America.

See: you don’t need to listen to America to achieve your goals.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 1, 2024 3:46 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

$$ is the difference. Thats why we listen to America to achieve our goals, and you listen to bums to achieve your goals………………….LOL. You listen to bums man………… 😂 .

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 2, 2024 7:23 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Your irony and sarcasm are too subtle, Erik …
By the way, the correct form is “USAmerica.”
The whole hemisphere is for the moment known as the Americas. However, the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants are not, thank heaven, USAmericans.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 3, 2024 3:15 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

Thanks for the corrective action. .

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 2, 2024 7:20 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Indeed … if one wants to achieve one’s goals the absolute last thing one must do is listen to the USofAs.

Sunface Jack
Sunface Jack
May 1, 2024 7:16 AM

The GMO organic fight continues. Whilst I agree that the objective of GMO is to gain monopoly over the agricultural industry and seed production. The Organic movement is itself playing and exploiting the mother earth/mother nature concept and both are religions with a cult following. It is what environmentalism is about reducing populations. The traditional farming and Organic Farming and Conventional markets use chemicals for parasite and fungal control. If they didn’t, they would not be able to compete. 

Nature is hostile to humans and humans are trying to survive its onslaughts. Its called life.

sandy
sandy
Apr 30, 2024 8:07 PM

Every problem that’s vetting rolls through OG is the result of world capitalist elite trying to exceed the proprietary ecological limits of Spaceship Earth. The root method is tech attempting to overclock an exhausted Mother Earth & Humanity. In trying to get blood from a turnip or maybe more accurately transmuting existence (human, animal, plant, earth) to gold… for themselves, they’ve become like the God Emperor of Dune, an abomination. Like El Dorado the city of gold, Fountain of Youth, or Holy Grail, the tech materialist alchemy of the 1% attempts to make themselves rich Gods ruling over an expendable humanity. They accurately name their processes as ARTIFICIAL. Artificial: intelligence, agriculture, energy, medicine, war, (trans)humanism, poverty, education, entertainment, even artificial reality. And none of it works for Humanity, as we are learning. Works great to squeeze out profit for them. But if we become aware of the above root problem,… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
May 1, 2024 6:10 AM
Reply to  sandy

After a long time, the Dune Emperor grew tired of life, and engineered his own assassination. That is unlike the abomination now infesting the planet.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 2, 2024 7:50 AM
Reply to  mgeo

For the time being, they eventually croak … it’s always a holiday!

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 30, 2024 4:18 PM

The problem with articles like these, are that they leave nothing to us commentators to correct, improve or pointing out failures.

This article doesnt make discussions, quarrels, raising up arguments one against each other, where people can see how Intelligent I am against the other duffers.
That’s why I am against it.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 1, 2024 12:13 AM
Reply to  Benny

Ohh, the old theme.
Muslims, refugees, coloured are outnumbering the white Arian race minority. Wrong angle folks.

antonym
antonym
Apr 30, 2024 12:01 PM

Good to read @ OG that small vs Big agriculture problems also occur outside of India.
Another example of farmer protests, now in Pakistani Punjab: https://www.dawn.com/news/1830526/scores-held-in-punjab-for-protesting-govts-unfair-wheat-policy

NickM
NickM
Apr 30, 2024 7:24 AM

“The court recognised that government agencies and other proponents of GM Golden Rice and GM eggplant “failed to submit proof of safety and compliance with all legal requirements.”
The order remains indefinite until GMO proponents can fulfil all the mandated steps and provide concrete evidence that these GMOs are indeed safe.”

This sort of Court Order should have been imposed automatically on The Vaxx with its GMO spike protein (Moderna patent 2016) until proved safe indeed.

Bravo, Filippini! And Bravo Colin and his fellow scientists of conscience, whose handwriting I detect in the framing of the case against GMO food.

NickM
NickM
Apr 30, 2024 6:29 AM

“The campaign group says: We believe that GM crops are primarily pushed by global monopoly capitalists in food and agriculture… there is already irrevocable evidence of the failure of GM crops and how it has contributed to further indebtedness, crop failures, hunger and loss of biodiversity.” It states that the court’s decision shows that ordinary people can prevail in the face of corporate power.” Another heartening article on the theme of Food First: Colin Todhunter reports a stunning victory for the Philippine people. I met one of the U$ advisors sent to “aid” President Marcos (senior) set up the Golden Rice $cam. His children played with the Marcos children. May the Filippini show equal spunk in rejecting the new U$ advisors pushing War against China onto the new President Marcos (junior). Otherwise, in ten years time, the Philippines will look like Ukraine today — ruined, betrayed and deserted by Uncle… Read more »

NickM
NickM
May 1, 2024 6:51 AM
Reply to  NickM

ps At that time, the 1970s, neither I nor my friend the scientific advisor — a U$ scientist of repute — realized what became apparent later. From Colin’s article:

Sarojeni V Rengam called on the scientists involved to wake up and do the right thing:

“Golden Rice is really a ‘Trojan horse’; a public relations stunt pulled by the agribusiness corporations to garner acceptance of genetically engineered (GE) crops and food… “

Roshan
Roshan
Apr 30, 2024 6:25 AM

Excellent article Colin 👌 I’ve been listening to Dr Vandana Shiva for years. Anything linked to the Rockefeller’s most probably has something to do with Eugenics! I’m sure you’ve heard of the Diamond v Chakrabarty case in 1980 that opened the floodgates for genetic modification of anything: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_v._Chakrabarty

NickM
NickM
May 1, 2024 6:40 AM
Reply to  Roshan

From your Link:

“Writing for a five-justice majority, Chief Justice Warren E. Burger held that human-modified bacteria could be patented under the patent laws of the United States because such an invention constituted a “manufacture” or “composition of matter”.”

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Apr 30, 2024 12:47 AM

“Beware Big AG and yellow rice! But first, get your jabs and wear a mask!”.

Johnny
Johnny
Apr 30, 2024 12:23 AM

Disguise, pollution, or the dreaded?

Johnny
Johnny
Apr 30, 2024 1:24 AM
Reply to  Johnny

That’s a response to Veritas, below.

les online
les online
Apr 30, 2024 12:21 AM

Digital ID’s = Putting all your eggs in one basket…
Digital Currencies (CBDC’s) = Putting all your eggs in one basket…

Try staying ahead of the egg-basket hackers – if you can !!

NickM
NickM
Apr 30, 2024 6:36 AM
Reply to  les online

Good advice. Nature never puts all her eggs in one basket.

les online
les online
Apr 30, 2024 11:40 AM
Reply to  NickM

“There’s a hole in the basket, dear Lisa, dear Lisa.” ?
(Harry Belafonte hit cc 1961)..

They’ve been holding the global financial system together
with ‘ban-aids’ since 2008, or before –
‘kicking the can down the road’, a mess for Tomorrow to
worry about…(Unless the WEF can come up with a
Great Reset)…

les online
les online
Apr 30, 2024 11:42 AM
Reply to  les online

“bandaids”

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 30, 2024 4:25 PM
Reply to  les online

The Ring that connects them all. It was all about money. It is all about money.

We cant see a shitty nice film on television “The Lord of the Rings” without its all about money. We are a human tragedy.

NickM
NickM
May 1, 2024 7:49 AM
Reply to  les online

“Unless the WEF can come up with a
Great Reset”

Useless; because the WEF is where our money goes through those holes in our buckets. In the end, the last drop will have trickled up to Klaus Scwab and his fellow Weftards: The WEF will own everything and WE sball own nothing.

It’s called the Trickle Up theory of prosperity. As expounded by St.Margaret of Snatchshire, in the Gospel According to Croesus..

Johnny
Johnny
Apr 30, 2024 12:21 AM

Since when did multi millionaires/billionaires or corporations give a shit about the health of poor people?

Their customer/victim base is the middle class. They will continue to exploit them, economically and psychologically, until hell freezes over.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Apr 29, 2024 11:32 PM

… and why are they wearing masks?

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 30, 2024 2:41 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

So we can’t see the transparent blush of shame and the perspiration of iniquity on their faces.

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 30, 2024 2:44 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Oh, the people in the header…?
That’s just to combat the pesticides in their air.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Apr 30, 2024 8:36 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

I’ve noticed a lot of masks in pix in the MSM lately. New mandates coming? We’ll see.

Dongson
Dongson
May 1, 2024 5:33 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

To avoid facial recognition from the authority.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Apr 29, 2024 10:06 PM

None of this can be stopped whilst BIG MONEY finances BIG AGRICULTURE. Small banks financing small farmers are what we need; the same with industry. Small to medium businesses make up MOST of GDP and provide most employment. Isn’t it obvious that money buys power and power rules everything including governments? Without a democracy of credit creation, democracy in government is impossible. It’s just not going to happen. Wars are incredibly expensive and without incredibly huge loans, would be impossible. NOTHING can change until this is sorted out, NOTHING.

NickM
NickM
May 1, 2024 8:14 AM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

And small farmers produce most of the world’s food.

I think China has come up with answers to 2 of your points:

1.The CCP subsidizes innovative small companies, instead of continuing to subsidise sluggish old Behemoths which become “too big to fail”. The losses from small company failure is small, and the potential profit from innovation is great.

2.President Xi told off billionaire Jack Ma in words to this effect:
“You can own a lot of money but you cannot own the government”.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 2, 2024 8:29 AM
Reply to  NickM

They came up with some top cuisine too

Edwige
Edwige
Apr 29, 2024 8:09 PM

Don’t eat ze bugs:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/insects-and-other-animals-have-consciousness-experts-declare-20240419/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-gb

Insects are sentient… next are plants… that just leaves the lab-grown slop… and one other option that I believe Charlton Heston was in a film about once….

Marfanoid
Marfanoid
Apr 29, 2024 8:45 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Human McDigits.

Johnny
Johnny
Apr 30, 2024 1:26 AM
Reply to  Marfanoid

Would you like McLies with that?

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Apr 29, 2024 9:18 PM
Reply to  Edwige

I understand the concern about eating animals. Cruelty in farming practices, animal suffering and the fact that many animals are conscious beings.

Although, the animal kingdom does not seem to have that concern about eating other animals.

The Earth is just one big food chain with predators and prey.

However, I smell a rat with the insect consciousness angle. Are we as humans now supposed to believe we are no different to ze bugs?

Another means to diminish humanity and promote the “humans are hackable animals” premise. If enough human ‘cattle’ can be convinced to believe consciousness is nothing special, since even mosquitos have it…..well, we all know what happens to mosquitoes – they get swatted.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Apr 29, 2024 9:43 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

When insects are on the menu at Davos I will consider it.
Until then I will eat what takes my fancy…

Johnny
Johnny
Apr 30, 2024 1:32 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Animals eat other animals to survive.
No malice.
No mass slaughter.
No profit motive.
No choice.

NickM
NickM
Apr 30, 2024 6:44 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

“The Earth is just one big food chain with predators and prey.”

Actually, animal life (“predators and prey”) are merely a faint “smear on the surface” of vegetable life which eats nothing but a hyper-virtuous diet of mineral water, sunshine and soda gas (carbon dioxide).

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 1, 2024 12:02 AM
Reply to  NickM

No Mr. Nick, plants are even more cruel than anybody on this planet. Bastards.comment image

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 30, 2024 11:56 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

It all comes from the Creator denial.

Coming from an ape, cro-magnon, neanderthal, primitive, digital human, all bowing forward looking down.

Human behavioural science and experiments on pigs and rats, because they have the same behaviour as humans.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 2, 2024 7:57 AM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Edvige, used the word “sentient”, not “conscious” (consciousness). They are two different qualities of being.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 30, 2024 11:57 AM
Reply to  Edwige

The exoskeleton of insects contains chitin, just as in prawns, etc. Most of us are allergic to it. No marketing hype can change this.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 2, 2024 7:55 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Try not to get confused by the word “sentient”.

underground poet
underground poet
Apr 29, 2024 7:52 PM

Obviously has its roots in the democratic underground, they simply can’t get enough money.