Political Pedophilia – An open source investigation
the Corbett Report explores how the alternative media can help shape the open source investigation into the practice of political pedophilia, and expose the real perpetrators.
As more and more information surfaces on both sides of the Atlantic about the pedophilia rings operating in the highest echelons of political, business and entertainment circles, even the establishment press is being forced to cover the story. But is the very same establishment that covered up these horrors for decades going to break the dam on this sensitive and paradigm-changing information? Of course not…
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Corbett has interesting stuff but he veers too often into speculation and conflates speculating on the Internet and finding “evidence” that “can’t just be coincidence” with a thorough investigation. This is Bellingcat and alt-right paranoiac territory.
In the 1980s many people were convinced there were satanic cults operating daycares in the United States and raping and sacrificing children there. It turned out to be 100% false. But not after lives were ruined.
Lolita Island shows that money and influence (power) can get a person off the hook for some pretty heinous stuff that a mere mortal would be thrown in the hole for and spend the rest of his life there. No argument with that, it’s obscene and corrupts the fabric of society.
Power wielded solely for selfish, personal gain corrupts everything it touches and our society is being destroyed by power crazed “elites” who literally want to rule the world and would rather bring on Armageddon than give up some of their influence and wealth. That’s as twisted and crazy as anything the imagination can conjure up.
Pizzagate is best left to the right-wing wack jobs. I’ve looked into it as well and read reports that presented damning “evidence”…until context was provided. There is a reason juries can’t convict on circumstantial evidence alone. I won’t get into it here but I will say that one glaring problem with the “theory” that should be evident from the start is the lack of victims. Where are they?
A bit disappointed Off-Guardian that you are veering off into right-wing fantasist territory. There is enough mind numbing insanity in the world to delve into and bring to light (eg Russia already being blamed for “interfering” in upcoming French election…and a neoliberal fake candidate cobbled together to play the Hillary role to Le Pen’s Trump). No need to add paranoid speculations to the list. Besides, Alex Jones is on the Pizzagate case and so are a few dozen other sites. Focus on being a truth-telling Grauniad and ditch the (((Jooand pizza))) kooks.
That should be *but not _before_ lives were ruined. My bad.
We have no time for labelling. Things are either true or false, plausible or implausible, sourced or unsourced. Attaching pejorative descriptors such like “right-wing/left-wing fantasist” or “conspiracy-therorist” to ideas as a means of discrediting them without analysis is counter to everything we stand for.
We have not looked into Pizzagate in enough depth to offer anything definitive about it, but if we accept the reality of political pedophilia then you don’t have to be a wack-job to give Pizzagate some credit, even if it turns out to be a false lead. Polarising language such as this has no place in rational discussion.
I see where you are coming from and I acknowledge that I can sometimes be judgmental in that regard. However I do feel I should elaborate on what I mean by “wack jobs” and “fantasists”.
I do not mean all people who label themselves right-wing. I am more to the left economically but for today’s liberal “left” I am a right-wing Trump lover. Go figure. Anyway, what I mean by “wack-job fantasists” is a subset of people who identify as right-wing that literally take their fantasies (or “hunches” or “suspicions”) and spin a theory (not necessarily a “conspiracy”) out of thm and then present them as “obvious” facts.
They spend their energy chasing ghosts and bypass events or occurrences where there are more actual facts known. And by facts I don’t mean the MSM version of “facts”. This seems like a waste of energy to me…the point is to find out what actually happened, not what I think happened.
The epidemic of pedo rings in high places theory is not convincing to me – there are too many blank spots. But I am not closing my mind off completely – it is after all possible, just not probable from what I have seen. If you have links to resources that offer more information I will definitely take a look at them.
That’s reasonable. There are lunatics everywhere. But it’s so easy to use disparaging language to dismiss ideas, and far better to address them factually.
“The epidemic of pedo rings in high places theory is not convincing to me – there are too many blank spots. But I am not closing my mind off completely – it is after all possible, just not probable from what I have seen. If you have links to resources that offer more information I will definitely take a look at them.”
This is a good place to start:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/10/still-evil-after-all-these-years/
I respect your right to express an opinion, but in attempting to don the mantle of a sole arbiter of truth, labelling those who do not fit into your worldview as “right-wing wack jobs”, and seeking to extend censorship rights over the forums at OffG (which has an open comments policy) to those who do not conform to your particular cosy bias, I think you go too far. IMHO.
It is precisely because of the context provided by decades of cover ups and mis-investigation that ‘pizzagate’ should be taken seriously. It needs thorough and professional investigation, but as these avenues have consistently led to partial disclosures (Kincora); cover ups (Franklin) or downright suppression (Beechwood) it has been left to internet activists. This is not the correct societal approach, elite paedophilia needs to be tackled head on – not sidelined to ‘premature activism’ or witch hunts emanating from the margins of the internet (as both Corbett and Tjeerd Andringa both point out) – but neither can it be ignored or dismissed as alt-right paranoia.
Some things defy being put into boxes and filed neatly on the political spectrum – and elite paedophilia is definitely beyond any left or right paradigm – it affects all of us and our society cannot even begin to heal until it is acknowledged and appropriately dealt with. Personally, I thought Tjeerd’s synopsis toward a fuller understanding was absolutely spot on. Internet investigation is not the way forward, but I sure as hell understand the anger and frustration that is driving it.
Lack of victims you say, well this will not fit into one of your boxes either – if they are not dead, on the street or in a mental hospital – then they may well be in prison. We are talking about societies most vulnerable people, whose personalities are often fractured by the experience. They don’t often make reliable witnesses, something which is used in court as shield for the elite.
If you want a real life experience of someone who came forward to bear witness to the abuse she and others suffered at Beechwood in the Thatcher era, got to the UKColumn website (ukcolumn.org) and read about Melanie Shaw. Maybe then you may begin to understand the lengths that our criminal and corrupt elites will go to to shield the paedophiles among them.
Yours sincerely, a (((Jooand pizza))) kook. Except I’m not.
“In the 1980s many people were convinced there were satanic cults operating daycares in the United States and raping and sacrificing children there. It turned out to be 100% false. But not after lives were ruined.”
No, what happened is what always happens: “debunkers” worked in concert with elements of the media to cover the genuine cases of abuse up. Read this very good analysis by the late, great Dave McGowan (and ignore the discredit-by-association nonsense this article is posted amidst, off of Dave’s page, over which Dave McGowan had no control):
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/pedophocracypart4mcmartinpreschoolaug01.shtml
“Pizzagate is best left to the right-wing wack jobs. I’ve looked into it as well and read reports that presented damning “evidence”…until context was provided.”
In point of fact, you haven’t “looked into” anything. You’re not a forensics expert, you’re not with any crime unit, you’re a person reading posts on the Internet. What needs to happen, given the circumstantial evidence, is an investigation. If code-words related to drug-running were found in Facebook posts of a person flying routinely between Surrey and Thailand, you can bet that would be enough to trigger alarm bells with any vigilant customs official interacting with that person at the border.
People accused of serious crimes usually to provide exculpatory “context” for damning evidence; whether or not the “context” is accepted as plausible often relates to the power of the accused. Some poor schmuck with a crack pipe in his dented glove compartment can offer all the “context” he’d like: he’s probably going to jail while his car is dismantled for more evidence. But when the “50th most powerful man in D.C.” (who runs a pizza place?) offers “context”… voila. It “works”. Although what the exculpatory “context” for a “family-friendly” restaurant’s logo being a precise match for the symbol (among initiates) for pedophilia (before they altered the logo), can possibly be, I can’t imagine.
“There is a reason juries can’t convict on circumstantial evidence alone.”
There is a reason many (if not most) investigations of serious crimes begin with circumstantial evidence.
All “we” have regarding “9/11” is circumstantial evidence. Does that mean you buy the Official Narrative? What about the JFK assassination? Where’s your hard evidence that Oswald didn’t do it; that he wasn’t a lone assassin? Do you buy the “magic bullet” theory? If not, why not? What hard evidence do you have to go on…?
Look, maybe you’re indulging in the common (and understandable) error of judging the possible actions/motives of others through the filter of your own non-Evil worldview. Maybe you can’t imagine that level and particularity of Evil being so well-organized, so ordinary, in the halls of power. But we’re all sort of stumbling around like sheep in a dream while the wolves snicker and party at our expense, leading us off, in little groups (never to return), at their leisure.
If you’ve ever taken the time to notice, for example, how Alfred Kinsey’s pseudo-scientific work was a cornerstone of America’s mid-20th century “sexual revolution” (and still highly regarded today) while also, essentially, being a substantial downpayment on the Normalization of Pedophilia (read the chapter on “Child Orgasm”), you’ll know something is very, very wrong. Things are not as they seem. Savile’s case, alone, should have told you that: decades of child rape and not a single person with any authority suspected? He’s friends with the highest reaches of society, including royalty, and the intelligence agencies didn’t have a folder on him?
We need to stop being Dupes, no matter how comfy Dupedom can be.
I’m not arguing that anything is an “open and shut case” regarding “Pizzagate”. I’m saying: why no serious investigation? Well, I know why.
Well done, Kilimanjaro West, you poisoned the well in the first post. You cast doubt on one of the most credible independent journalists out there, James Corbett, whose research is nothing if not 100% robust and who goes out of his way to distance himself from speculation. I have to wonder what your motivation is.
Funny that you should use the daycare example. The first case, the McMartin Daycare actually did turn out to be run by a pedophile ring.
It is my belief that the rumors of the others, so blatantly false, were a smokescreen so that research wasn’t continued on McMartin. One of the mothers was able to have the area below the house excavated before it was torn down years later.
Probably the best explanation I have seen for PizzaGate and Lolita Island is at
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/17/dhs-insider-says-its-spy-vs-spy/
It suggests that the deeper function of PizzaGate is to accumulate video evidence of
child abuse by people in high places in order to render them open to blackmail.
It further suggests that the entity behind the operation was Mossad, which make sense given
the extraordinary deference the American political establishment gives to Israel.
US Congress Gives Netanyahu 25 Standing Ovations For Insulting President Obama (2015)
“By way of deception, thou shalt do war”
The Mossad link is interesting. Richard Silverstein reports on loads of shady undertakings in Israel, FWIW he also appears to support Clinton rather than Trump. One recent report is titled “Israeli Intelligence infiltrated by pedophilia ring”. He writes:
“Channel 10 and Maariv report that Israeli police caught a senior intelligence agent (likely from Shabak or Mossad) who collected and disseminated pedophilia materials online along with at least two others serving in the IDF. One of his co-conspirators served in the defense ministry and the other served in an intelligence capacity, probably in AMAN. The two younger defendants have been released, but the older intelligence officer has not. When the court ruled he should be released the police appealed the decision and his detention has been extended till the appeal is heard. Maariv includes a dubious claim from the police that they take an active role in pursuing sex crimes like these. That’s dubious considering how many senior Israeli police commanders have themselves been accused of sexually harassing their female subordinates.”
https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2017/02/15/israeli-intelligence-infiltrated-pedophilia-ring/
It gives a deep insight into “Elite´s” socio-psychic structure. You much better understand the psychopathic side of the Power Elites members and their henchmen. Finally all this makes up the “Deep State”!
„Deep State USA: Dulles, Dallas and Devilish Games“: https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2016/04/20/deep-state-usa-dulles-dallas-and-devilish-games/
And it explains well why hardly anybody of their helpers involved in terrible actions of the Deep State hardly talk.
Comment on George Webb’s investigation of human trafficking –
pedophilia in Haiti please.
Around 100,000 kids going missing in the USA each year, never to be found…How many get sexually abused, then sacrificed by these demented perverts?
Like the previous commenter said, if it was the Catholic Church, the stories would be non-stop. Or if some mosques were doing this evil, the FBI would had already rounded up the congregation.
It’s good to be the King!
In the UK, the primary reason it went on was because the evil within the security services saw paedophilia as sn ideal tool for controlling and blackmailing politicians and other public figures. The children wrre utterly expendable in the eyes of those evil unaccountable dark forces.
There will be no end to tjis without the complete defenestration of the security services and probably life imprisonment for the worst nazi orderlies who aided and abetted what tjose services were doing.
If you see how the UK Establishment undermines enquiries, prosecutions etc, you would not be too hopeful of this ever happening.
But it is pretty clear now that the reputation of MI6 after Iraq is terminally broken, so bringing the paedophile protectors and controllers to book would not cause the public any disquiet.
As for yet more documentstion, merely bring the historical documents to the attention of the public: 1980s press articles are dynamite, the 1995 Jillings report likewise, any number of other enquiries.
If Pizzagate were being run by the Catholic Church, the media would have been all over it by now. Instead, these creeps are getting Jimmy Savile treatment.
Jimmy Savile’s papal knighthood – to this day, I believe – has never been revoked.