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		By: Seamus Padraig		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seamus Padraig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38543&quot;&gt;Eric Blair&lt;/a&gt;.

And sadly, CounterPunch itself has now become part of the problem, running several hit-pieces on Caitlin Johnstone this very summer just for advocating collaboration across ideological lines against the régime in Washington.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38543">Eric Blair</a>.</p>
<p>And sadly, CounterPunch itself has now become part of the problem, running several hit-pieces on Caitlin Johnstone this very summer just for advocating collaboration across ideological lines against the régime in Washington.</p>
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		By: Seamus Padraig		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seamus Padraig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38547&quot;&gt;Lupulco&lt;/a&gt;.

Anatoly Karlin calls it &#039;Putin Derangement Syndrome&#039; -- about as good a name as I&#039;ve yet heard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38547">Lupulco</a>.</p>
<p>Anatoly Karlin calls it &#8216;Putin Derangement Syndrome&#8217; &#8212; about as good a name as I&#8217;ve yet heard.</p>
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		By: Arrby		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arrby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38552&quot;&gt;rehmat1&lt;/a&gt;.

I personally never used the word &#039;phobia&#039; when I mean &#039;anti&#039;. Phobia means fear. You can&#039;t argue with fear, if it&#039;s genuine.
As for Nazis, Sorry to report this, but while Trump might not have the kind of dictatorial powers, or record (give the freak time), that Hitler had, there&#039;s lots of similarity. Howard Zinn all but calls his country fascist in his book &quot;A People&#039;s History Of The United States.&quot; I just happened to be reading Eric Lichtblau&#039;s &quot;The Nazis Next Door&quot; at the same time as I&#039;m (still) reading Zinn&#039;s book and the section I&#039;m reading in Zinn&#039;s book right now deal with the fake people&#039;s war that was WWII. Undoubtedly, Zinn didn&#039;t have the same info (entirely) that Eric taps. But even without Eric&#039;s astonishing revelations (about a United States political class and the wider U.S. establishment that had lost its fear and hatred of the Nazis even before the war officially ended), Zinn puts together an unassailable case against the US establishment, demonstrating its fascist credentials.
In the meantime, we have all these alt media websites complaining about Google&#039;s recent overnight censoring of their websites and demonetizing of their YouTube channels (http://tinyurl.com/y7g8ram5). I blogged about that (A Loud Whoompfing Sound). Mondoweiss, Electronic Intafada and others are sounding the alarm about S.720 and H. R. 1697 (the Senate and House versions of the same bill), an expansion of the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (http://tinyurl.com/y7zssclt), as I understand it.
As I noted in the comments on Mondoweiss, Activists spout the First Amendment ad nauseum. So do politicians (http://tinyurl.com/ycnabgzl). I understand activists&#039; need to refer to this important Constitutional element, but if the politicians themselves don&#039;t take it seriously, Why should we? Zinn pointed out in his book (above) that eight years after that First Amendment they violated it with the Sedition Act. They passed a law that broke a law! But the US has since proven to be utterly lawless.
I also find it amusing, not in a happy way, that Glenn Greenwald, whose boss - Pierre Omidyar, helped birth the neonazi Ukranaine (http://bit.ly/1Zq9ORw) that the US looks to to poke the Russians - has co-written an article denouncing S.720 (http://tinyurl.com/ybqxrycz). Has anyone here ever tried to do a search on the Intercept&#039;s website?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38552">rehmat1</a>.</p>
<p>I personally never used the word &#8216;phobia&#8217; when I mean &#8216;anti&#8217;. Phobia means fear. You can&#8217;t argue with fear, if it&#8217;s genuine.<br />
As for Nazis, Sorry to report this, but while Trump might not have the kind of dictatorial powers, or record (give the freak time), that Hitler had, there&#8217;s lots of similarity. Howard Zinn all but calls his country fascist in his book &#8220;A People&#8217;s History Of The United States.&#8221; I just happened to be reading Eric Lichtblau&#8217;s &#8220;The Nazis Next Door&#8221; at the same time as I&#8217;m (still) reading Zinn&#8217;s book and the section I&#8217;m reading in Zinn&#8217;s book right now deal with the fake people&#8217;s war that was WWII. Undoubtedly, Zinn didn&#8217;t have the same info (entirely) that Eric taps. But even without Eric&#8217;s astonishing revelations (about a United States political class and the wider U.S. establishment that had lost its fear and hatred of the Nazis even before the war officially ended), Zinn puts together an unassailable case against the US establishment, demonstrating its fascist credentials.<br />
In the meantime, we have all these alt media websites complaining about Google&#8217;s recent overnight censoring of their websites and demonetizing of their YouTube channels (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/y7g8ram5" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/y7g8ram5</a>). I blogged about that (A Loud Whoompfing Sound). Mondoweiss, Electronic Intafada and others are sounding the alarm about S.720 and H. R. 1697 (the Senate and House versions of the same bill), an expansion of the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/y7zssclt" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/y7zssclt</a>), as I understand it.<br />
As I noted in the comments on Mondoweiss, Activists spout the First Amendment ad nauseum. So do politicians (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycnabgzl" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/ycnabgzl</a>). I understand activists&#8217; need to refer to this important Constitutional element, but if the politicians themselves don&#8217;t take it seriously, Why should we? Zinn pointed out in his book (above) that eight years after that First Amendment they violated it with the Sedition Act. They passed a law that broke a law! But the US has since proven to be utterly lawless.<br />
I also find it amusing, not in a happy way, that Glenn Greenwald, whose boss &#8211; Pierre Omidyar, helped birth the neonazi Ukranaine (<a href="http://bit.ly/1Zq9ORw" rel="nofollow ugc">http://bit.ly/1Zq9ORw</a>) that the US looks to to poke the Russians &#8211; has co-written an article denouncing S.720 (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/ybqxrycz" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/ybqxrycz</a>). Has anyone here ever tried to do a search on the Intercept&#8217;s website?</p>
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		By: Norman Pilon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Pilon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38567&quot;&gt;Norman Pilon&lt;/a&gt;.

correction:
&quot;. . . a species of fascist, that &lt;b&gt;of&lt;/b&gt; those so called liberal nations . . .&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38567">Norman Pilon</a>.</p>
<p>correction:<br />
&#8220;. . . a species of fascist, that <b>of</b> those so called liberal nations . . .&#8221;</p>
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		By: Norman Pilon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Pilon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38565&quot;&gt;BigB&lt;/a&gt;.

I mean to imply that the Allies, too, were -- and in their current survivals, very much are -- a species of fascist, that those so called liberal nations and societies who claim to have fought and won &quot;the good fight,&quot; whose war-making elites urge us never to forget the crimes of only the Germans while effacing from history their own crimes, crimes of a kind they continue to commit this very day, motivated as they were and continue to be, by their own &quot;fascism.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38565">BigB</a>.</p>
<p>I mean to imply that the Allies, too, were &#8212; and in their current survivals, very much are &#8212; a species of fascist, that those so called liberal nations and societies who claim to have fought and won &#8220;the good fight,&#8221; whose war-making elites urge us never to forget the crimes of only the Germans while effacing from history their own crimes, crimes of a kind they continue to commit this very day, motivated as they were and continue to be, by their own &#8220;fascism.&#8221;</p>
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		By: BigB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38553&quot;&gt;rehmat1&lt;/a&gt;.

No evidence of Soviet-Nazi collusion??? the Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggression pact; the joint invasion and annexation of Poland; the Soviet-Nazi Frontier treaty???
150,000 Mischlinge??? Otherwise proud Aryans who did not know; did not identify culturally; and where certainly not practicing Jews: who fell foul of the Racial Purity laws &lt;strong&gt;IS NOT COLLABORATION.&lt;/strong&gt;
[Nor were the Sonderkommando and Capos in the death camps...]
Re-callibrate your over compensated personal biases, and start presenting your research factually. Please?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38553">rehmat1</a>.</p>
<p>No evidence of Soviet-Nazi collusion??? the Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggression pact; the joint invasion and annexation of Poland; the Soviet-Nazi Frontier treaty???<br />
150,000 Mischlinge??? Otherwise proud Aryans who did not know; did not identify culturally; and where certainly not practicing Jews: who fell foul of the Racial Purity laws <strong>IS NOT COLLABORATION.</strong><br />
[Nor were the Sonderkommando and Capos in the death camps&#8230;]<br />
Re-callibrate your over compensated personal biases, and start presenting your research factually. Please?</p>
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		By: BigB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38562&quot;&gt;Norman Pilon&lt;/a&gt;.

Not all Fascists: the Allies didn&#039;t win the moral war either. Thousand bomber firestorm raids and atomic bombs on civilian targets in defeated countries come to mind...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38562">Norman Pilon</a>.</p>
<p>Not all Fascists: the Allies didn&#8217;t win the moral war either. Thousand bomber firestorm raids and atomic bombs on civilian targets in defeated countries come to mind&#8230;</p>
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		By: BigB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38561&quot;&gt;Norman Pilon&lt;/a&gt;.

Perceptive again, Norm. The fake &#039;&#039;AstroTurf&quot; revolution - dancing on the $$$ strings of hidden puppet-masters (of whom Soros is the most readily identifiable.) Movements arise; consolidate and grow; then reach the divergence point of choosing wealthy patronage, NGO charitable status, and co-option and dilution; or remaining independent and risk infiltration, fragmentation, and (violent) loss of message. Ultimately, money talks to money to maintain the status quo. Class analysis is essential: but the system cannot (it would seem) be democratized from within. In the 150 years since Marx: that should have happened by now???
There is one great &#039;educator&#039; and &#039;democratizer&#039; on whom I&#039;m pinning my hope: Mother Nature. It&#039;s axiomatic to me that either we will have a more benign, respectful and life-affirming relationship with Nature in (the near?) future: or we will have no future at all. Class analysis; re-education; respect; re-distribution; recycling; the ending of waste and pollution... these are just some aspects of the revolutionary 21st century paradigm shift... antiFa and the alt-right would do well to re-channel their exuberant destructive energies toward the future... and fuck Soros... he&#039;s a carbonized fossilized relict of the 20th century.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38561">Norman Pilon</a>.</p>
<p>Perceptive again, Norm. The fake &#8221;AstroTurf&#8221; revolution &#8211; dancing on the $$$ strings of hidden puppet-masters (of whom Soros is the most readily identifiable.) Movements arise; consolidate and grow; then reach the divergence point of choosing wealthy patronage, NGO charitable status, and co-option and dilution; or remaining independent and risk infiltration, fragmentation, and (violent) loss of message. Ultimately, money talks to money to maintain the status quo. Class analysis is essential: but the system cannot (it would seem) be democratized from within. In the 150 years since Marx: that should have happened by now???<br />
There is one great &#8216;educator&#8217; and &#8216;democratizer&#8217; on whom I&#8217;m pinning my hope: Mother Nature. It&#8217;s axiomatic to me that either we will have a more benign, respectful and life-affirming relationship with Nature in (the near?) future: or we will have no future at all. Class analysis; re-education; respect; re-distribution; recycling; the ending of waste and pollution&#8230; these are just some aspects of the revolutionary 21st century paradigm shift&#8230; antiFa and the alt-right would do well to re-channel their exuberant destructive energies toward the future&#8230; and fuck Soros&#8230; he&#8217;s a carbonized fossilized relict of the 20th century.</p>
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		By: elenits		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elenits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38549&quot;&gt;Norman Pilon&lt;/a&gt;.

here in Greece the view is false flag all the way.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2017/08/12/the-de-putin-nazification-of-america/#comment-38549">Norman Pilon</a>.</p>
<p>here in Greece the view is false flag all the way&#8230;..</p>
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