Comments on: WATCH: the Dutch Foreign Minister in 2016 lying about Putin to inflame fears of Russian invasion https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/14/watch-the-dutch-foreign-minister-in-2016-telling-complete-and-detailed-lie-about-vladimir-putin/ because facts really should be sacred Sun, 05 May 2019 17:39:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Mulga Mumblebrain https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/14/watch-the-dutch-foreign-minister-in-2016-telling-complete-and-detailed-lie-about-vladimir-putin/#comment-14617 Thu, 22 Feb 2018 01:30:56 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=44622#comment-14617 In reply to 0use4msm.

And these are the creatures supposedly ‘investigating’ MH 17!

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/14/watch-the-dutch-foreign-minister-in-2016-telling-complete-and-detailed-lie-about-vladimir-putin/#comment-14616 Thu, 22 Feb 2018 01:29:35 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=44622#comment-14616 In reply to bevin.

Freeland is an hereditary Ukronazi. Her grand-father, Mykhailo Khomiak was a Ukronazi propagandist and collaborator with the Nazis during WW2. She has inherited his fanatic Russophobic fanaticism, that is for certain, and is also a foam-flecked advocate for ‘regime change’ in Venezuela.

]]> By: John A https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/14/watch-the-dutch-foreign-minister-in-2016-telling-complete-and-detailed-lie-about-vladimir-putin/#comment-14615 Fri, 16 Feb 2018 10:30:25 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=44622#comment-14615 In reply to bevin.

Apropos lying Freeland who claimed to have had a long conversation with the brilliant Lavrov, naturally she boasted it was in Russian. Lavrov’s pithy reply was to the effect that they had exchanged pleasantries in Russian, something they would not have been able to do in Ukraine, where the regime has banned the use of Russian, including for Ukrainian speakers of Russian.

]]> By: bevin https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/14/watch-the-dutch-foreign-minister-in-2016-telling-complete-and-detailed-lie-about-vladimir-putin/#comment-14614 Thu, 15 Feb 2018 19:41:19 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=44622#comment-14614 John Helmer has an interesting take:
“…..In Canada, Zijlstra’s counterpart as foreign minister is Chrystia Freeland . She too has been repeatedly lying in public about meeting Putin. Initially, her motive was the same as Zijlstra’s – to exaggerate her own importance and qualification to be foreign minister.
Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/programs/metromorning/freeland-trump-metro-morning-1.3934305
“In an interview with CBC News in Toronto on January 13, 2017, three days after her promotion to foreign minister, Freeland declared: “So I’ve spoken with the top guy [Putin] in Russia quite recently and we spoke in Russian and we had quite a long conversation.” This was a lie — Freeland had not met Putin. The story of the lie, and Freeland’s efforts to get the Canadian media to repeat it as if true, was first told here. This was published in April of 2017. Since then no Canadian medium has investigated the truth, or challenged Freeland to admit it.
“With the encouragement of reporters from the Canadian media, Freeland has continued to lie about her Russian meetings. Here, in May 2017, she was lying again: “I had quite a few productive conversations with Minister Lavrov, both last night over supper and today”. For the full story, read this. ”
http://johnhelmer.net/
He adds this interesting sidelight on the way that the Canadian media, (currently asking the government for hundreds of millions of dollars annually by way of subsidies) covered this interesting story:
“No Canadian newspaper has investigated Freeland’s lying, and she has expanded the lie to meetings with other Russian officials, which also did not happen. The Toronto Globe and Mail, the Ottawa Citizen and the state-owned Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) have also failed to report Zijlstra’s resignation for his Putin lie; their editors blocked the Reuters and Bloomberg wire reports, which have been running on Canadian newsroom screens, from appearing in print. ”
If you want the media in Canada to take up a story attribute it to that ‘crusading whistleblower’s site’ Bellingcat.

]]> By: Willem https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/14/watch-the-dutch-foreign-minister-in-2016-telling-complete-and-detailed-lie-about-vladimir-putin/#comment-14613 Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:47:46 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=44622#comment-14613 ‘Here’s Zijlstra telling a captive audience his completely made-up story back in 2016, when everyone believed him’
Alternative version: … when nobody listened to him.
It took a long time before we found that Zijlstra lied, and the person who found was a Dutch MSM journalist.
I take comfort in the believe that only Dutch MSM journalists listen to Zijlstra et al type of fake news stories. Most other people just continue with their own life and do not pay any attention to Zijlstra et al.

]]> By: tutisicecream https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/14/watch-the-dutch-foreign-minister-in-2016-telling-complete-and-detailed-lie-about-vladimir-putin/#comment-14612 Thu, 15 Feb 2018 04:20:52 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=44622#comment-14612 When I first read about this the other day I thought if the whole “fake news/ media”, “Russian Hacking the media message” thing is a construct [you know, like the White Helmets], then clearly the MSM would pay little to no attention to this CLEAR piece of “FAKE NEWS”.
I was not wrong… NOTHING.
I thought even the fearlessly investigative Graun might feel obliged to report this.
Again… NOTHING.
Well not surprised there too, really…
So in the meantime I did some reading and realised a few articles which go deeply into the origins of this now quite obvious WMSM “Ruskie Scaremongering” construct and the real “fake news” memes we are being subjected to.
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/02/11/u-s-intelligence-crisis-poses-a-threat-to-the-world/ [2 parts to this]
https://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/clint-watts-fake-russia-expert [also 2 parts]
All time well spent reading these I promise you.

]]> By: zenbel https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/14/watch-the-dutch-foreign-minister-in-2016-telling-complete-and-detailed-lie-about-vladimir-putin/#comment-14611 Thu, 15 Feb 2018 00:48:33 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=44622#comment-14611 In reply to 0use4msm.

another guy from Putins dactha ?

]]> By: Hannah32 https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/14/watch-the-dutch-foreign-minister-in-2016-telling-complete-and-detailed-lie-about-vladimir-putin/#comment-14610 Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:20:15 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=44622#comment-14610 What an idiot douchebag

]]> By: Admin https://off-guardian.org/2018/02/14/watch-the-dutch-foreign-minister-in-2016-telling-complete-and-detailed-lie-about-vladimir-putin/#comment-14609 Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:14:48 +0000 http://off-guardian.org/?p=44622#comment-14609 In reply to Peter.

It’s an embed from Twitter, but it should play ok for you. Maybe you have an old browser?

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