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		By: BigB		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76131&quot;&gt;Dissidents_unite&lt;/a&gt;.

Dissidents Unite

I feel I have addressed most of your points already. The Manifesto is not credible or compatible with EU/NATO neoliberal suzerainty - that Corbyn is negotiating: contra his own morality. There is the small matter of anti-Constitutional Treason and post-democracy of ignoring a clear mandate to leave the EU. This overrides whatever ones actual vote was. If the public votes, and MPs ignore it - then they are all not fit for purpose. We have a Constitutional and legitimation crisis in which JC is playing a major Judas role.

You say the Manifesto is costed. I say it is not: not in human terms. You hit the nail on the head when you say &quot;changing the plight of the poor in this country&quot; - what about in other countries? That&#039;s 163 dead children at Rashidin - indicative of what NATO and White Helmet support (and regime change support of the Jo Cox Foundation) looks like in the real world ...not the fantasy world of champagne socialism.

There is also the NATO/EU drang nacht oesten colonisation of Eastern Europe: with its military Dineyfication theme park occupation that Corbyn supports. He failed to mention the concomitant dehumanisation, denial of an economic future, and rape culture that has brought to the Baltics. Or the incipient Nazification.

There is the dubious support of the billionaire class arch-imperialists - represented by the toxic presence of Bill Browder - and Corbyns constant advocacy of his Magnitsky Sanctions regime. There is also the spurious support of Navalny, and Corbyn&#039;s anti-Putin Russophobia. What might the human costs of that pseudo-Cold War Labour polity be?

Trident makes us a target: end of. It is not an independent deterrent ...free from NATO control. The renewal of Trident is an anti-humanitarian crime par excellence. The trade off of 30,000 Boilerworkers jobs for an uncertain fate for humanity - exacerbated by Labours anti-Russia electioneering - seems like an uncosted cost/benefit loss for humanity to me. Potentially the ultimate loss and failure - for a few unionised jobs?

Given that the re-nationalisation programme is a current grey area - but unlikely to be compatible with EU neoliberal treaty law - to which we will be unnecessarily and unrepresentatively shackled by Corbyn ...what of the rest of the economic programme? We live in an entropic world: where the global economy is shrinking. We have a global massive overproduction crisis - including, but not limited to - China, India, Taiwan, South Korea; etc. So we are going to make what - for whom? And pay a unionised living wage to - pricing ourselves out of an already cut-throat global market. 

Or import substitution tarrifed protectionism? Not in the EU. Not anyway. By the time we import the raw materials, create the infrastructure, relocate urbanised workforces - the global economy will have collapsed. Debt financing or fiscal stimulus only make sense if the market is expanding. If not, the credit is inflationary and the debts are unrepayable from day one. And we will be limited in the amount of deficit by Labours own Fiscal Credibility Rule - and the EU deficit caps.

Tech, AI, and financial services? Our core business for UK Inc is rent extraction from the global market. This is never discussed by Social Democrats. Those taxes, costed in to our phoney future - are the bad-faith blood money of the unseen, depersoned Other. That core business is all but assured by Labour - under the euphemism &quot;pro-business&quot;. When the leading capitalist ideologue of his generation takes out a spread in the FT - to endorse Labours policy ahead of the Tories ...and when they choose Stiglitz as a neoliberal tweaker - you really have to fear for the poor of this world. What is the unseen cost to humanity of Business As Usual for the neoliberal rent extractors? Do we want to save the NHS with their blood money?

The world is experiencing a slow-burn net energy crisis. That means the energy cost of energy will rise: and the benefit to society will fall. Against this backdrop: Labour wants to invest in 40% nuclear - and include untried future tech such as BECCS and CCS. Nuclear is a nightmare that will tie us into global energy markets for 70 years. Contrary to popular belief: nuclear is neither green nor sustainable - when submitted to a Life Cycle Analysis. Currently, nuclear is unbuildable - as Westinghouse, Hitachi, and Toshiba withdrawing from the market attests to. So there is an unspoken need for massive government subsidy and guaranteed high price per Mgw-hour. The same applies to BECCS and CCS. We will be committing to more expensive energy - compared to the tumbling cost of renewables - and locked into dwindling energy markets for decades. What are the hidden costs to society and the environment there?

No one has mentioned where this nuclear will be situated. All our current facilities are ageing and due to be retired in 2030. It is too late to replace them. The financial incentive is not there. So will we re-licence redundant 60s and 70s tech - for the sake of a capitalised neoliberal energy policy? At what cost?

I could go on - but Labour are playing major fantasy league pseudo-politics. Tying is into a sociopathological globalised neoliberal world system via its own, and soon to be supra-sovereign militarised EU/NATO expansionist policies. You say this is costed: but what is the cost for humanity and the environment? Not a cost humanity can afford if it wants to survive. And the cost of 2% GNE support of NATO/EU expansionism? The children of Rashidin will not be alone for very much longer. And if we vote to legitimate this: what part do we play?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76131">Dissidents_unite</a>.</p>
<p>Dissidents Unite</p>
<p>I feel I have addressed most of your points already. The Manifesto is not credible or compatible with EU/NATO neoliberal suzerainty &#8211; that Corbyn is negotiating: contra his own morality. There is the small matter of anti-Constitutional Treason and post-democracy of ignoring a clear mandate to leave the EU. This overrides whatever ones actual vote was. If the public votes, and MPs ignore it &#8211; then they are all not fit for purpose. We have a Constitutional and legitimation crisis in which JC is playing a major Judas role.</p>
<p>You say the Manifesto is costed. I say it is not: not in human terms. You hit the nail on the head when you say &#8220;changing the plight of the poor in this country&#8221; &#8211; what about in other countries? That&#8217;s 163 dead children at Rashidin &#8211; indicative of what NATO and White Helmet support (and regime change support of the Jo Cox Foundation) looks like in the real world &#8230;not the fantasy world of champagne socialism.</p>
<p>There is also the NATO/EU drang nacht oesten colonisation of Eastern Europe: with its military Dineyfication theme park occupation that Corbyn supports. He failed to mention the concomitant dehumanisation, denial of an economic future, and rape culture that has brought to the Baltics. Or the incipient Nazification.</p>
<p>There is the dubious support of the billionaire class arch-imperialists &#8211; represented by the toxic presence of Bill Browder &#8211; and Corbyns constant advocacy of his Magnitsky Sanctions regime. There is also the spurious support of Navalny, and Corbyn&#8217;s anti-Putin Russophobia. What might the human costs of that pseudo-Cold War Labour polity be?</p>
<p>Trident makes us a target: end of. It is not an independent deterrent &#8230;free from NATO control. The renewal of Trident is an anti-humanitarian crime par excellence. The trade off of 30,000 Boilerworkers jobs for an uncertain fate for humanity &#8211; exacerbated by Labours anti-Russia electioneering &#8211; seems like an uncosted cost/benefit loss for humanity to me. Potentially the ultimate loss and failure &#8211; for a few unionised jobs?</p>
<p>Given that the re-nationalisation programme is a current grey area &#8211; but unlikely to be compatible with EU neoliberal treaty law &#8211; to which we will be unnecessarily and unrepresentatively shackled by Corbyn &#8230;what of the rest of the economic programme? We live in an entropic world: where the global economy is shrinking. We have a global massive overproduction crisis &#8211; including, but not limited to &#8211; China, India, Taiwan, South Korea; etc. So we are going to make what &#8211; for whom? And pay a unionised living wage to &#8211; pricing ourselves out of an already cut-throat global market. </p>
<p>Or import substitution tarrifed protectionism? Not in the EU. Not anyway. By the time we import the raw materials, create the infrastructure, relocate urbanised workforces &#8211; the global economy will have collapsed. Debt financing or fiscal stimulus only make sense if the market is expanding. If not, the credit is inflationary and the debts are unrepayable from day one. And we will be limited in the amount of deficit by Labours own Fiscal Credibility Rule &#8211; and the EU deficit caps.</p>
<p>Tech, AI, and financial services? Our core business for UK Inc is rent extraction from the global market. This is never discussed by Social Democrats. Those taxes, costed in to our phoney future &#8211; are the bad-faith blood money of the unseen, depersoned Other. That core business is all but assured by Labour &#8211; under the euphemism &#8220;pro-business&#8221;. When the leading capitalist ideologue of his generation takes out a spread in the FT &#8211; to endorse Labours policy ahead of the Tories &#8230;and when they choose Stiglitz as a neoliberal tweaker &#8211; you really have to fear for the poor of this world. What is the unseen cost to humanity of Business As Usual for the neoliberal rent extractors? Do we want to save the NHS with their blood money?</p>
<p>The world is experiencing a slow-burn net energy crisis. That means the energy cost of energy will rise: and the benefit to society will fall. Against this backdrop: Labour wants to invest in 40% nuclear &#8211; and include untried future tech such as BECCS and CCS. Nuclear is a nightmare that will tie us into global energy markets for 70 years. Contrary to popular belief: nuclear is neither green nor sustainable &#8211; when submitted to a Life Cycle Analysis. Currently, nuclear is unbuildable &#8211; as Westinghouse, Hitachi, and Toshiba withdrawing from the market attests to. So there is an unspoken need for massive government subsidy and guaranteed high price per Mgw-hour. The same applies to BECCS and CCS. We will be committing to more expensive energy &#8211; compared to the tumbling cost of renewables &#8211; and locked into dwindling energy markets for decades. What are the hidden costs to society and the environment there?</p>
<p>No one has mentioned where this nuclear will be situated. All our current facilities are ageing and due to be retired in 2030. It is too late to replace them. The financial incentive is not there. So will we re-licence redundant 60s and 70s tech &#8211; for the sake of a capitalised neoliberal energy policy? At what cost?</p>
<p>I could go on &#8211; but Labour are playing major fantasy league pseudo-politics. Tying is into a sociopathological globalised neoliberal world system via its own, and soon to be supra-sovereign militarised EU/NATO expansionist policies. You say this is costed: but what is the cost for humanity and the environment? Not a cost humanity can afford if it wants to survive. And the cost of 2% GNE support of NATO/EU expansionism? The children of Rashidin will not be alone for very much longer. And if we vote to legitimate this: what part do we play?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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Hi some random Passer-by.  I believe you are wrong, the Labour Manifesto is costed, is focussed and details exactly how they will deliver.  May be you should read it.  I think, mostly, the rabid right wingers have left the Labour Party (Alleluia).  Also, if you look at the new Labour Politicians ushered in under Corbyn, they are passionate about policies that will redistribute wealth, create jobs, create affordable housing and more.  This Government conversely, are completely devoid of any sort of thought.  They haven&#039;t a clue in their heads as to how to sort out the gross economic mess they have made of this country, how to sort out the mess they have made of Universal Credit, the gross mess they have made of the Probation Service (attributed to a lack of any thought or consultation by the Government on why the changes were necessary); on how to address the issue that Chris Grayling awarded a contract for delivering a ferry service post Brexit to a company who had no  ferries.  I could go on.  This Government is inherently corrupt in the worst possible terms.  

I know this country needs an  honest, decent, focussed Prime Minister, i.e. Corbyn who is neither flashy or trashy but believes wholeheartedly in his country, what is best for it, for how to redistribute wealth so we become a more equal society, who understands the need for affordable housing etc etc.


The focus should be currently, on this grossly incompetent and corrupt Tory Government who are only in power because of the MSM.  They are minority Government who is unfit to Govern in any way shape or form and more importantly, haven&#039;t got an idea in their head as to how to create jobs, invest in the economy, reverse the recession we are descending into (thanks to their mis management of the economy).  This is what should be the focus of criticism by the MSM and the public.  Not Corbyn or the Labour Party.  Truth should be spoken to power by the MSM but it isn&#039;t is it?]]></description>
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<p>Hi some random Passer-by.  I believe you are wrong, the Labour Manifesto is costed, is focussed and details exactly how they will deliver.  May be you should read it.  I think, mostly, the rabid right wingers have left the Labour Party (Alleluia).  Also, if you look at the new Labour Politicians ushered in under Corbyn, they are passionate about policies that will redistribute wealth, create jobs, create affordable housing and more.  This Government conversely, are completely devoid of any sort of thought.  They haven&#8217;t a clue in their heads as to how to sort out the gross economic mess they have made of this country, how to sort out the mess they have made of Universal Credit, the gross mess they have made of the Probation Service (attributed to a lack of any thought or consultation by the Government on why the changes were necessary); on how to address the issue that Chris Grayling awarded a contract for delivering a ferry service post Brexit to a company who had no  ferries.  I could go on.  This Government is inherently corrupt in the worst possible terms.  </p>
<p>I know this country needs an  honest, decent, focussed Prime Minister, i.e. Corbyn who is neither flashy or trashy but believes wholeheartedly in his country, what is best for it, for how to redistribute wealth so we become a more equal society, who understands the need for affordable housing etc etc.</p>
<p>The focus should be currently, on this grossly incompetent and corrupt Tory Government who are only in power because of the MSM.  They are minority Government who is unfit to Govern in any way shape or form and more importantly, haven&#8217;t got an idea in their head as to how to create jobs, invest in the economy, reverse the recession we are descending into (thanks to their mis management of the economy).  This is what should be the focus of criticism by the MSM and the public.  Not Corbyn or the Labour Party.  Truth should be spoken to power by the MSM but it isn&#8217;t is it?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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Big B.  You are not, clearly, seeing who JC actually is.  He has been consistently passionate about changing the plight of the poor in this country, of redistributing wealth, of building affordable housing and so on and so forth.  You seem also to be ignoring the fact that we have, currently, the most corrupt Government (Fascist in its politics) in the UK Parliamentary history.  If they win the next election (God forbid) we will descend into a one party, fascist state.  The MSM is already nothing more than a propaganda machine for this Government; they are covering up corruption, outright lies, gross incompetence, ignorance and a lot more.  Putin would love an MSM of this magnitude to promote its&#039; shit and propaganda.


Jeremy Corbyn is quite rightly, the Prime Minister in waiting. God knows, we need Labour Party policies as stated in their Manifesto more than ever.  This Tory Government has shamed us in the eyes of the World.  I know one thing though, had a Labour Party Government presided over this unprecedented level of Government corruption, dishonesty, gross self-interest and gross incompetence and the only Government in Parliamentary History in the UK to be found to be held in contempt of Parliament, the MSM would have well and truly crucified them.]]></description>
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<p>Big B.  You are not, clearly, seeing who JC actually is.  He has been consistently passionate about changing the plight of the poor in this country, of redistributing wealth, of building affordable housing and so on and so forth.  You seem also to be ignoring the fact that we have, currently, the most corrupt Government (Fascist in its politics) in the UK Parliamentary history.  If they win the next election (God forbid) we will descend into a one party, fascist state.  The MSM is already nothing more than a propaganda machine for this Government; they are covering up corruption, outright lies, gross incompetence, ignorance and a lot more.  Putin would love an MSM of this magnitude to promote its&#8217; shit and propaganda.</p>
<p>Jeremy Corbyn is quite rightly, the Prime Minister in waiting. God knows, we need Labour Party policies as stated in their Manifesto more than ever.  This Tory Government has shamed us in the eyes of the World.  I know one thing though, had a Labour Party Government presided over this unprecedented level of Government corruption, dishonesty, gross self-interest and gross incompetence and the only Government in Parliamentary History in the UK to be found to be held in contempt of Parliament, the MSM would have well and truly crucified them.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76114&quot;&gt;wardropper&lt;/a&gt;.

An interesting juxtaposition in your phrase &quot;the purpose of evolution&quot;.
Purpose is of the Mind - and the theory of evolution - while also of the mind, posits a mindless material existence as CAUSE - in place of MIND - which is truly always our greatest Intimacy of true environment - regardless the focus in objects of attention.
Thus a &#039;mind&#039; randomly accretes or assembles over billions of years as the illusion of a mind - in total subordination and dictate to a persistence of energy patterns or genetic mutations.
But those who hold such an anti-magic wand can use it to block and deny Mind in any Movement that does not support the Model of materially captured convictions.
I note that when it doesn&#039;t suit us, we WANT to assign cause outside or away from self - and that can be to a god as much as to a random accident or disease of genetic or materially set conditions

Purpose and desire are fundamental to all that then follows.

Jesus did not write Scriptures - but those who did sought to align the truth of their witness with the forms of acceptance. The mind of prophecy is hidden from the materially minded who see at best predictions rather than a true reading of the current energies in movement.
And the making of the prequel by which to support one&#039;s claim is simply part of the way the mind works - though Jesus did not call on that for his person.

Once a messenger has been smeared or debunked and walled out or turned to an idol by which to bring out in support of an otherwise dead letter society, it becomes impossible to reference without translation into terms of hate. That is how it works.

The message we receive is not determined by any external power but by our own accepted purpose and desire. When we align that with Caesar or power in the world - we take it from true recognition and fulfilment. Until we no longer know our purpose and have buried, denied or crucified our true desire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76114">wardropper</a>.</p>
<p>An interesting juxtaposition in your phrase &#8220;the purpose of evolution&#8221;.<br />
Purpose is of the Mind &#8211; and the theory of evolution &#8211; while also of the mind, posits a mindless material existence as CAUSE &#8211; in place of MIND &#8211; which is truly always our greatest Intimacy of true environment &#8211; regardless the focus in objects of attention.<br />
Thus a &#8216;mind&#8217; randomly accretes or assembles over billions of years as the illusion of a mind &#8211; in total subordination and dictate to a persistence of energy patterns or genetic mutations.<br />
But those who hold such an anti-magic wand can use it to block and deny Mind in any Movement that does not support the Model of materially captured convictions.<br />
I note that when it doesn&#8217;t suit us, we WANT to assign cause outside or away from self &#8211; and that can be to a god as much as to a random accident or disease of genetic or materially set conditions</p>
<p>Purpose and desire are fundamental to all that then follows.</p>
<p>Jesus did not write Scriptures &#8211; but those who did sought to align the truth of their witness with the forms of acceptance. The mind of prophecy is hidden from the materially minded who see at best predictions rather than a true reading of the current energies in movement.<br />
And the making of the prequel by which to support one&#8217;s claim is simply part of the way the mind works &#8211; though Jesus did not call on that for his person.</p>
<p>Once a messenger has been smeared or debunked and walled out or turned to an idol by which to bring out in support of an otherwise dead letter society, it becomes impossible to reference without translation into terms of hate. That is how it works.</p>
<p>The message we receive is not determined by any external power but by our own accepted purpose and desire. When we align that with Caesar or power in the world &#8211; we take it from true recognition and fulfilment. Until we no longer know our purpose and have buried, denied or crucified our true desire.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76113&quot;&gt;bonbon&lt;/a&gt;.

Many points in your post - all Kingship and Aristocracy inherits the God-king idea.
I hold that that arose in catastrophic experience of a past that is hidden by psychic &#039;amnesia&#039; and which is held in the Mythic Record of all peoples from Antiquity. An experience of overwhelming terror as destructive power set the &#039;Separation trauma&#039; that predicates what we call subjective consciousness - which is both the creative capacity to model or imagine reality and the subjection to its own &#039;sowing&#039;.

But it was the elites of Jesus&#039; own people who set up and used the power of Caesar to crucify someone that the Roman authorities had no interest in - excepting as brought to them as a troublemaker by Jewish authorities operating as a permitted and limited semi autonomy under Roman Jurisdiction.

When Pilate met Jesus - he was interested in him - but the lobby for his execution included a flashmob shouting for Barabus and so perhaps the merits of the accused did not outweigh the pains of inflammation, dissonance and strife that would accrue from not going along with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76113">bonbon</a>.</p>
<p>Many points in your post &#8211; all Kingship and Aristocracy inherits the God-king idea.<br />
I hold that that arose in catastrophic experience of a past that is hidden by psychic &#8216;amnesia&#8217; and which is held in the Mythic Record of all peoples from Antiquity. An experience of overwhelming terror as destructive power set the &#8216;Separation trauma&#8217; that predicates what we call subjective consciousness &#8211; which is both the creative capacity to model or imagine reality and the subjection to its own &#8216;sowing&#8217;.</p>
<p>But it was the elites of Jesus&#8217; own people who set up and used the power of Caesar to crucify someone that the Roman authorities had no interest in &#8211; excepting as brought to them as a troublemaker by Jewish authorities operating as a permitted and limited semi autonomy under Roman Jurisdiction.</p>
<p>When Pilate met Jesus &#8211; he was interested in him &#8211; but the lobby for his execution included a flashmob shouting for Barabus and so perhaps the merits of the accused did not outweigh the pains of inflammation, dissonance and strife that would accrue from not going along with it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2019 12:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76112&quot;&gt;Some Random Passer-by&lt;/a&gt;.

Hidden History - The secret origins of the first world war - Gerry Docherty and Jim Macgregor - This book may be focused in the past - but has every application to an understanding of how power through due process is subverted and corrupted - no matter who gets in to the supposed offices of its jurisdiction.

The Corbett Report has a documentary on the theme of the Book that includes some of this information as well as the whole interviews with Docherty on this and on Hoover and others prolonging of the war by manipulation of sympathies to serve a hidden agenda.

The refinements and developments of such an influence will tend to be many moves ahead of any sense of the world we may imagine possible - until we come up against the complex of denials and deceits by which an invested narrative blocks any other from acceptance - UNLESS it can subvert or use it to serve its purpose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76112">Some Random Passer-by</a>.</p>
<p>Hidden History &#8211; The secret origins of the first world war &#8211; Gerry Docherty and Jim Macgregor &#8211; This book may be focused in the past &#8211; but has every application to an understanding of how power through due process is subverted and corrupted &#8211; no matter who gets in to the supposed offices of its jurisdiction.</p>
<p>The Corbett Report has a documentary on the theme of the Book that includes some of this information as well as the whole interviews with Docherty on this and on Hoover and others prolonging of the war by manipulation of sympathies to serve a hidden agenda.</p>
<p>The refinements and developments of such an influence will tend to be many moves ahead of any sense of the world we may imagine possible &#8211; until we come up against the complex of denials and deceits by which an invested narrative blocks any other from acceptance &#8211; UNLESS it can subvert or use it to serve its purpose.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2019 12:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76111&quot;&gt;à la Clinton&lt;/a&gt;.

Or an asset to acquire - I&#039;ve been reading a bit about Lloyd George.
A GPS route giver immediately reroutes any deviation.
The purpose of &#039;survival&#039; in its own terms operates at a level that we are rarely aware of and as power for its own sake.

Power does not run through the old political channels excepting to maintain a Face for narrative control. The &#039;threat&#039; to the &#039;establishment&#039; or it globalist agenda is more to the maintaining of a narrative that masks and supports, or hides and diverts exposure and challenge. But if QE for (compliant) citizens or subjects is part of a further state capture and dependency - then who better to be allowed to &#039;win it&#039; for &#039;the people&#039;.

Who pays the piper calls the tune.

I also respect Corbyn for his example and demeanour in representing the trust of people who support him - but leadership brings entanglements that I feel has compromised him in the attempt to unify a Party that has abandoned its roots.

I haven&#039;t a sense of an inspiring vision from him - so much as seeking to mitigate the damage of a system that cannot be openly questioned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76111">à la Clinton</a>.</p>
<p>Or an asset to acquire &#8211; I&#8217;ve been reading a bit about Lloyd George.<br />
A GPS route giver immediately reroutes any deviation.<br />
The purpose of &#8216;survival&#8217; in its own terms operates at a level that we are rarely aware of and as power for its own sake.</p>
<p>Power does not run through the old political channels excepting to maintain a Face for narrative control. The &#8216;threat&#8217; to the &#8216;establishment&#8217; or it globalist agenda is more to the maintaining of a narrative that masks and supports, or hides and diverts exposure and challenge. But if QE for (compliant) citizens or subjects is part of a further state capture and dependency &#8211; then who better to be allowed to &#8216;win it&#8217; for &#8216;the people&#8217;.</p>
<p>Who pays the piper calls the tune.</p>
<p>I also respect Corbyn for his example and demeanour in representing the trust of people who support him &#8211; but leadership brings entanglements that I feel has compromised him in the attempt to unify a Party that has abandoned its roots.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t a sense of an inspiring vision from him &#8211; so much as seeking to mitigate the damage of a system that cannot be openly questioned.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2019 12:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76107&quot;&gt;John2o2o&lt;/a&gt;.

The underlying freedom from deceit that Jesus exemplified is that there is no &#039;good&#039; but God and that a true recognition of the Father in the Son - (or of Cause in the Effect) is the Relationship on which he founds his &#039;church&#039;. This Foundation is Timeless even if it must seem to wait on time for acceptance and extension. And so is operating through time as the willingness to share it - and as the translation and undoing of a mind in error or mis-taken identity.

Even unto the least of us is no less a Christ unrecognised than you are - but the basis for true recognition is not the perception or projection of evil or sin in the Bad Guys - but the plucking from our mind of our OWN - that we might see, free of the mind of deceit and be free to speak or move as we are truly moved or indeed guided and supported.

What a manipulated mass-culture makes of the Christ is whatever supports the persistence OF a manipulative deceit that runs as IF a sense of power and protection to the &#039;mortally framed mind&#039;. Truth needs nothing to be itself. Illusions need propping up and compliance - at a cost that the illusion seeks to push out into small print or effect non-disclosure.

Whatever symbols or words are used to communicate - because all have been degraded by abuse, the idea of a true and living context - from which separative act of &#039;taking out of context&#039; is both impossible IN TRUTH and futile to give truth and power TO, allows the recognition and release of the futile to naturally and spontaneously align and give due to That which Is unconflicted - and by nature holds all things one. This can be recognised in unified purpose attracting and aligning all that truly belongs or serves unfolding fulfilment. The attempt to unify purpose by denial and suppression is the lie and the father of it.

The Idea of Living Universe is not the projection of a made mind - but Creation AS Mind in which and of which to behold and know - and so to BE the Shared Recognition that knows BY extension. A false sense of familiarity breeds contempt - but Family is true relatedness. A shattered family constellation makes the mind &#039;legion&#039; or alienated in fragmentation of conflicting voices. True reconciliation in our own heart and mind is the basis from which we share in or extend the Good, the Beautiful and the True as truly moved and shared being.
It is necessary to look on the fear and the fear or terror symbols so as to break the spell of a fixated fascination that gives power to conflict.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76107">John2o2o</a>.</p>
<p>The underlying freedom from deceit that Jesus exemplified is that there is no &#8216;good&#8217; but God and that a true recognition of the Father in the Son &#8211; (or of Cause in the Effect) is the Relationship on which he founds his &#8216;church&#8217;. This Foundation is Timeless even if it must seem to wait on time for acceptance and extension. And so is operating through time as the willingness to share it &#8211; and as the translation and undoing of a mind in error or mis-taken identity.</p>
<p>Even unto the least of us is no less a Christ unrecognised than you are &#8211; but the basis for true recognition is not the perception or projection of evil or sin in the Bad Guys &#8211; but the plucking from our mind of our OWN &#8211; that we might see, free of the mind of deceit and be free to speak or move as we are truly moved or indeed guided and supported.</p>
<p>What a manipulated mass-culture makes of the Christ is whatever supports the persistence OF a manipulative deceit that runs as IF a sense of power and protection to the &#8216;mortally framed mind&#8217;. Truth needs nothing to be itself. Illusions need propping up and compliance &#8211; at a cost that the illusion seeks to push out into small print or effect non-disclosure.</p>
<p>Whatever symbols or words are used to communicate &#8211; because all have been degraded by abuse, the idea of a true and living context &#8211; from which separative act of &#8216;taking out of context&#8217; is both impossible IN TRUTH and futile to give truth and power TO, allows the recognition and release of the futile to naturally and spontaneously align and give due to That which Is unconflicted &#8211; and by nature holds all things one. This can be recognised in unified purpose attracting and aligning all that truly belongs or serves unfolding fulfilment. The attempt to unify purpose by denial and suppression is the lie and the father of it.</p>
<p>The Idea of Living Universe is not the projection of a made mind &#8211; but Creation AS Mind in which and of which to behold and know &#8211; and so to BE the Shared Recognition that knows BY extension. A false sense of familiarity breeds contempt &#8211; but Family is true relatedness. A shattered family constellation makes the mind &#8216;legion&#8217; or alienated in fragmentation of conflicting voices. True reconciliation in our own heart and mind is the basis from which we share in or extend the Good, the Beautiful and the True as truly moved and shared being.<br />
It is necessary to look on the fear and the fear or terror symbols so as to break the spell of a fixated fascination that gives power to conflict.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2019 11:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76121&quot;&gt;Hugh O&#039;Neill&lt;/a&gt;.

That is entirely my point: to find the courage to do the right thing. Since the children of al-Fu&#039;ah and Kafriya were blown up by NATO proxies: three months after JC was actively collecting money for the White Helmets ...I have been antithetical to the false hopes blindly cathexed on Corbyn. I have no reason to reproduce my concerns here: but it is a pretty severe list which should rightly make any conscious living person give up any fallacy that Labour are a force for good in this world. Not least because of what I term the &#039;Corbyn singularity effect&#039;. Remove JC from the mix: and what will actually be elected is around 300 Zionists, neoliberals, or both. Who have no plans whatsoever to do any good for the poor. If they do, it will be at the expense of the poor elsewhere - such as the children of Syria.

Indeed, who can guarantee that the first act of a Labour government will not be a Watson coup? The second act will be to cede our sovereignty to NATO/EU vassalship - contra to what Corbyn himself categorised as a &quot;military Frankenstein&quot; and &#039;&#039;EU Empire&#039;&#039; under the Lisbon Treaty. A broader discussion would have to include that this act alone will render Labours more progressive policies practico-inert under the Maastricht Treaty and Labours own neoliberal &#039;Fiscal Credibility Rule&#039; (expenditure must not exceed taxation returns and add to the National Deficit - capped at 3% by the EU ...If I remember correctly). [See Bill Mitchell&#039;s blog - he&#039;s been critiquing Labour for nearly three years now. Half of what they want to do is incompatible with EU neoliberalism].

An archetypal leader will have to show more backbone than the current comparison. And the constituent electorate will have to be more discerning of what is right, egalitarian, and universally internationalisable as a common humanity. What is right for all, not just what is right for me. I fear that will take a new life politique to replace the reflexive binary choice of two imperialist war parties. One which has a slightly more cuddly definition of imperialism as humanitarian intervention ...with inclusive LGBTQ++ sympathies. I&#039;m sorry to have to resort to the photo above - but the outcome looked identical on the ground at Rashidin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/21/holy-week-and-wikileaks/#comment-76121">Hugh O&#8217;Neill</a>.</p>
<p>That is entirely my point: to find the courage to do the right thing. Since the children of al-Fu&#8217;ah and Kafriya were blown up by NATO proxies: three months after JC was actively collecting money for the White Helmets &#8230;I have been antithetical to the false hopes blindly cathexed on Corbyn. I have no reason to reproduce my concerns here: but it is a pretty severe list which should rightly make any conscious living person give up any fallacy that Labour are a force for good in this world. Not least because of what I term the &#8216;Corbyn singularity effect&#8217;. Remove JC from the mix: and what will actually be elected is around 300 Zionists, neoliberals, or both. Who have no plans whatsoever to do any good for the poor. If they do, it will be at the expense of the poor elsewhere &#8211; such as the children of Syria.</p>
<p>Indeed, who can guarantee that the first act of a Labour government will not be a Watson coup? The second act will be to cede our sovereignty to NATO/EU vassalship &#8211; contra to what Corbyn himself categorised as a &#8220;military Frankenstein&#8221; and &#8221;EU Empire&#8221; under the Lisbon Treaty. A broader discussion would have to include that this act alone will render Labours more progressive policies practico-inert under the Maastricht Treaty and Labours own neoliberal &#8216;Fiscal Credibility Rule&#8217; (expenditure must not exceed taxation returns and add to the National Deficit &#8211; capped at 3% by the EU &#8230;If I remember correctly). [See Bill Mitchell&#8217;s blog &#8211; he&#8217;s been critiquing Labour for nearly three years now. Half of what they want to do is incompatible with EU neoliberalism].</p>
<p>An archetypal leader will have to show more backbone than the current comparison. And the constituent electorate will have to be more discerning of what is right, egalitarian, and universally internationalisable as a common humanity. What is right for all, not just what is right for me. I fear that will take a new life politique to replace the reflexive binary choice of two imperialist war parties. One which has a slightly more cuddly definition of imperialism as humanitarian intervention &#8230;with inclusive LGBTQ++ sympathies. I&#8217;m sorry to have to resort to the photo above &#8211; but the outcome looked identical on the ground at Rashidin.</p>
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