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Julian Assange’s Victory

Andre Vltchek

Throughout history, dark and reactionary forces have always attempted to control the world; by violence, by deceit, by kidnapping and perverting the mainstream narrative, or by spreading fear among the masses.

Consistently, brave and honest individuals have been standing up, exposing lies, confronting the brutality and depravity. Some have fought against insane and corrupt rulers by using swords or guns; others have chosen words as their weapons.

Many were cut down; most of them were. New comrades rose up; new banners of resistance were unveiled.

To resist is to dream of a better world. And to dream is to live.

The bravest of the brave never fought for just their own countries and cultures; they fought for the entire humanity. They were and they are what one could easily define as “intuitive internationalists”.

Julian Assange, an Australian computer expert, thinker and humanist, had chosen a new and mostly untested form of combat: he unleashed an entire battalion of letters and words, hundreds of thousands of documents, against the Western empire. He penetrated databases which have been storing the evidence of the most atrocious crimes the West has been committing for years and decades. Toxic secrets were exposed; truths revealed. To those who have been suffering in silence, both face and dignity were finally returned.

Julian Assange was a ‘commander’ of a small team of dedicated experts and activists. I met some of them, and was tremendously impressed. But no matter how small in numbers, this team has been managing to change the world, or at least to give the Western public an opportunity to know, and consequently to act.

After WikiLeaks, no one in New York, Berlin, London or Paris has any right to say “we did not know”. If they do not know now, it is because they have decided not to know, opportunistically and cynically.

Julian Assange and his comrades published all that the West was doing to the Afghan people, as well as to those suffering from neo-colonialism and imperialism all over the Middle East, Africa, Asia and Latin America.

What is it that the critics of Wikileaks are holding against Mr. Assange? That the snitches and the agents of the Western empire got ‘exposed’? Is the world expected to feel pity for them? Are tens of millions of victims supposed to be forgotten just so that the members of the Western intelligence services and their lackeys could feel safe and protected?

*

A few days before this essay went to print, Julian Assange was cynically betrayed by a country which used to be governed by a socialist administration, and which gave him political asylum and citizenship, both. Its current ruler, Lenin Moreno, will be judged extremely harshly by history: he’ll be remembered as a man who began dismantling the socialist structure of Ecuador, and who then literally sold (to the twisted British and US judiciary systems) a man who has already sacrificed more than his life for the truth as well as for survival of our planet.

As the Metropolitan Police dragged Julian Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy in London into a van, the entire world could catch a glimpse of the naked essence of the Western regime; the regime in action – oppressive, gangrenous, murderous and vindictive.

But we should not forget: the regime is not doing it because it is confident and strong. It is actually terrified. It is in panic. It is losing. And it is murdering, wherever it feels ‘vulnerable’, which is, all over the world.

Why? Because the millions, on all continents, are waking up, ready to face Western terror, ready to fight it, if there is no other way.

It is because they now know the truth. It is because the reality cannot be hidden; the brutality of Western global dictates is something that no one can deny any longer. Thanks to the new media in countries that have managed to free themselves from Western influence. And of course, thanks to heroes like Julian Assange, and his comrades.

*

Julian Assange has not fallen. He was stabbed, betrayed. But he is here, he is alive, with us; with the millions of those who support him, admire him, and are grateful to him for his honesty, courage and integrity.

He confronted the entire Empire; the most powerful, evil, destructive and brutal force on earth. And he managed to damage its secret organizations, consequently spoiling some of the plans, therefore saving lives.

All this can be considered a victory. Not the final victory, but a victory nevertheless.

By arresting Assange, the empire showed its weakness. By dragging him from the embassy into a police van, it has admitted that it already has begun sewing its own funeral gown.

First published by NEO – New Eastern Outlook

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George Cornell
George Cornell
May 1, 2019 12:14 PM

Assange just sentenced to 50 weeks in a British jail after 7 fucking years in an Ecuadorean cell in London. This was the max sentence minus 2 weeks for bail jumping.
What an outrage! Next the lickspittle poodling Brits will serve him up to the amoral American lowlifes so they can torture him. Incarcerating him for a period now much longer than served by the average murderer in the US, is not enough apparently.

Alpine Observer
Alpine Observer
Apr 24, 2019 10:32 PM

Hmm, it appears that there may at least two disinfo agents spreading nonsense against Assange even in this little corner of the internet.

der einzige
der einzige
Apr 25, 2019 9:22 AM

Read who your Mossange serves and what is used for … and thought… or go to the cinema for a Superhero 2019
https://journal-neo.org/2019/04/24/iran-is-no-one-s-colony/

FS
FS
Apr 24, 2019 3:18 PM

The real litmus test is 9/11 and not, as has been suggested in a recent article here, Julian Assange – whose very life’s work can be seen as an effort to obfuscate the truth about that Talmudic atrocity.

systemicfraud
systemicfraud
Apr 24, 2019 5:13 PM
Reply to  FS

Anyone who hasn’t yet watched one of Christoper Bollyn’s lectures on 9/11 is missing out on well-researched info which pins the tail on the donkey…

Here’s one of the best lectures by Bollyn with enhanced presentation (documents, photos, etc): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1VVhrkc4Kg&t=1049s&bpctr=1556123915

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 24, 2019 10:16 PM
Reply to  FS

If that were true, he would be assured of an absolutely fantastic job at the top of the CIA, instead of fearing for his life.
This isn’t a question of either / or …
911 is, indeed, a litmus test, but I fail to see how Assange comes out as its obfuscating opposite.
Perhaps his caution about Israel is simply his naive way of avoiding a Zionist sniper’s bullet?
Courageous as he is, I don’t think he actually wants to die as soon as possible.

systemicfraud
systemicfraud
Apr 24, 2019 11:44 PM
Reply to  wardropper

So–Israel is more dangerous a threat to Assange than the CIA and DOD?

Narrative
Narrative
Apr 24, 2019 1:57 PM

Assange puts to shame those politicians who surround themselves with advisors and PR (public Relations) experts.

Assange doesn’t wait for talking points to arrive before he forms an opinion. He talks about any topic and doesn’t need anyone to write his commentary for him, which makes run-of-the-mill and corrupt politicians envious and they wish that he goes away.

Haltonbrat
Haltonbrat
Apr 24, 2019 12:10 PM

“He penetrated databases which have been storing the evidence of the most atrocious crimes the West has been committing for years and decades. ”

Surely the crimes of the Zionists would be right up there near the top of atrocious crimes committed, but Assange has virtually nothing to say about Israel. Is that why Veterans Today suggest that Assange is an asset of MOSSAD?

Maggie
Maggie
Apr 24, 2019 11:33 AM

Assange did NOT penetrate data bases… Manning did. and Assange printed the stuff!
That is why his site was called Wiki -LEAKS.

Fair dinkum
Fair dinkum
Apr 24, 2019 9:58 AM
systemicfraud
systemicfraud
Apr 24, 2019 6:54 AM

I am astounded by the public BUYING INTO this LIMITED HANGOUT FRAUD by Wikileaks/Julian Assange.

James Corbett has questioned Wikileaks pretty much from the start–read/click/watch his comments from his 2018 AMA (Ask Me Anything): https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76uzvv/hi_im_james_corbett_of_the_corbett_report_creator/

For a much deeper dive into this FRAUD search for “Wikileaks: Made by the NSA” on youtube…hosted by Richard Hall (whom I normally consider unreliable)–this show, however, makes some very good points and is well worth the watch.

As for my own personal thoughts–I see Wikileaks as being a DISTRACTION from the UK’s Iraq War Inquiry (and in the US from the CIA Torture investigation)–both of which were building steam in 2008/9 when Wikileaks began dumping info.

Do you really think the USA/CIA/FBI/DOD would allow an enemy to continuously leak info for years?

Do you really think CIA/FBI/DOD would allow Assange/Wikileaks to keep Twittering away for years? All they had to do was pick up a phone and call Twitter and have his account suspended. (Currently, I believe they now have the power to make posts disappear without contacting site admins)…also note: it was Nov. 2016 when Assange’s Twitter was deactivated (then suspiciously popped up again)…

Do you really think CIA/FBI/DOD couldn’t find a way to get Assange out of the Ecuadorian embassy in London for over 5 years? All one would have to do is pull a fire alarm in the building–and Presto–the building must legally be vacated by all…and the authorities, waiting outside 24/7/365, could arrest Assange once he walked out of the building…(if there is no fire alarm in the building–I’m sure the despicable minds at CIA/DOD could think of an alternate plan to have the building evacuated–and Assange arrested once he walked out).

To clarify–I’m not saying the info Assange released wasn’t true–just that it was released as a distraction from other, more important issues. That’s what a Limited Hangout does…

Yarkob
Yarkob
Apr 24, 2019 11:11 AM
Reply to  systemicfraud

I’m not commenting on your assertions about assange, as I think those waters are being muddied well enough already – soley to say: in whose interest do you think this rumour is? Not Assange’s that’s for sure, but I am questioning this:

“search for “Wikileaks: Made by the NSA” on youtube…hosted by Richard Hall (whom I normally consider unreliable)”

So, when Rich Hall says something you agree with, he is reliable? Classic case of confirmation bias, no? Rich Hall has very polarised, but usually very well researched thoughts, though, as you say, he can sometimes come across as a bit random, and some of the people he has one, specifically the dude talking about Jill Dando, can also seem very random and not a little bonkers, but I have no idea if he’s telling us anything real or not as I haven’t got all of the information needed to make that assessment

systemicfraud
systemicfraud
Apr 24, 2019 4:06 PM
Reply to  Yarkob

Rich Hall has pushed “No Planes” 9/11 Theory–absolute rubbish imo.

I’ve tried to watch his Fake Moon Landing videos–but the Youtube quality is very low resolution (so I can’t really make any definitive judgment).

Overall–Rich Hall seems well-spoken and spends quite a bit of time on esoteric subjects (pyramids, etc.)

I did find his (and his mates) observations to be quite astute–much of their conversation was actually based on a book which was written by a journalist from (ugh) the guardian.

WIKILEAKS: MADE BY THE NSA (PART 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2WSI_M15-k&t=3s

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Apr 25, 2019 6:14 PM
Reply to  systemicfraud

“Overall–Rich Hall seems well-spoken and spends quite a bit of time on esoteric subjects (pyramids, etc.)”

Doc Scott liked pyramids too.

Findu Irritating
Findu Irritating
Apr 24, 2019 1:11 PM
Reply to  systemicfraud

“No”, it’s not easy to remove someone from an Embassy. In Addis Abbaba, there’s two men who have been in there since 1989: they are the record-holding long-stayers, just not as well-known as Mr. Assange. “No”, the U.S. can’t force Wikileaks to shut. If they would, they could, and they can’t. “No”, the U.S. government can’t force Twitter to close accounts, because the U.S. is still claiming to be a democracy with freedom of expression. They would if they could, but if they did that, it would give them bad-press. STOP MAKING UP STORIES WITHOUT ANY FACTUAL BASIS or evidence.

systemicfraud
systemicfraud
Apr 24, 2019 4:48 PM

US recently shut down releases from The Dark Overlord (who claimed to have a stash of 9/11 legal documents)–they shut down TDO’s accounts across all platforms (even on smaller platforms like BitChute, etc)
The docs seemed to be actual legal insurance related material–but TDO was shut down before the (allegedly) most important material was released. (TDO was attempting to blackmail law firms into paying TDO, which was self-described as being a group of hackers out to make money)

Not sure who the two men are in Addis Abbaba are and what (or who) they are trying to protect themselves from–I’m guessing it is not the USA (which has a much more forceful ability to round up enemies/suspects).

FS
FS
Apr 24, 2019 6:16 PM
Reply to  systemicfraud

systemicfraud, they also quite unceremoniously shut down Russell Tice, the whistleblower who pre-dated Snowden by a matter of days, rather suspiciously, pulling the plug on him as he was sitting in a US news studio about to give another interview, this time on the latest revelation that all members of the congress and senate – most notably including the sitting POTUS Obama – had been surveilled, and implying the collection of kompromat on all of them, and implying in turn that they had all, including Obama, been appointed for their sins.

That’s when it all went dark for Tice, and no one was interested in interviewing him any more. And that’s when Snowden suddenly entered stage right, cast as the world’s favourite whistleblower and polariser, telling us what many of us had already known about for 8 years or so. But nothing too dangerous that might implicate the elite or the current puppet in chief.

This was the ‘cognitive infiltration’ envisaged by Cass Sunstein, and Assange is another actor in the same play. Sorry, but it’s obvious.

flaxgirl
flaxgirl
Apr 25, 2019 3:18 AM
Reply to  FS

Very, very, very interesting. Edward Snowden’s Wikipedia entry does not add up and sounds similar in a number of ways to Chelsea Manning’s but Julian is not onboard with the big boys, he’s been duped and exploited, very, very unfortunately for him. No doubt they profile everyone they target and in many ways Julian’s personality made him a sitting duck. They’ve probably always got agents ready and groomed for whoever should emerge as a potential target.

This RT interview with Russell Tice has had just 94 views – and it seems to blow the lid wide open. Dick Cheney at the source – I do tend to believe that although you never know, do you? You never know how many layers of lies there are. Unfortunately, whenever I have a sense of “media fuss” as I did with Wikileaks – which, of course, was all deliberately generated as it was infiltrated or similar by controlled opposition – I don’t pay all that much attention. Also, when it all started I had no idea about 9/11 or anything else but if I (or someone else) had cottoned on so much sooner Julian might not be in the position he’s now in. It could be that Russell Tice is some kind of agent just as it could be that Richard Gage is too but either way I believe they tell a whole lot of truth that needs to be paid attention to – in Richard Gage’s case he definitely does and certainly what Russell Tice says sounds highly plausible and convincing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1n2gQdlD9w

Fraudian
Fraudian
Apr 24, 2019 1:50 PM
Reply to  systemicfraud

“I am astounded by the public BUYING INTO this LIMITED HANGOUT FRAUD”

Which better limited hangout do you recommend then?

systemicfraud
systemicfraud
Apr 24, 2019 3:56 PM
Reply to  Fraudian

As Limited Hangout operations are primarily the product of intelligence agencies–how about avoiding suspect sources and, instead, READING BOOKS and doing your own research…find your favorite reliable authors–look through sources/bibliographies and continue reading…

FS
FS
Apr 24, 2019 3:13 PM
Reply to  systemicfraud

Systemicfraud, your common sense questions apparently aren’t very popular among those around here who need their heroes and won’t brook any real challenge to their brittle thinking.

Also, what conclusions do these people draw from (that other fraud) Eddie Snowden’s silence (or near-silence if I’ve missed another of his anodyne murmurs) on the issue?

Yarkob
Yarkob
Apr 24, 2019 3:27 PM
Reply to  systemicfraud

NSA ≠ CIA. In the same way that MI* ≠ GCHQ. MI6 and GHHQ aren’t even very fond of each other, to put it lightly, as with CIA/NSA.
It’s an old vs new thing, with the added fact that, in the USA, the CIA has appropriated vast tranches of intelligence gathering that the NSA used to do by virtue of their capabilities..They’ve (CIA) had billions of black funds pumped into their own spying/hacking divisions, that just didn’t exist a decade or two ago. The NSA did all of that stuff. the CIA used to be just field operatives (“real” spies), much like MI6, whereas NSA (and GCHQ) are boffins. Nerds with autism if you listen to some people. You can’t put them in the same space when talking about a single “limited hangout”, and limited hangouts aren’t really NSA’s thing.

systemicfraud
systemicfraud
Apr 24, 2019 4:32 PM
Reply to  Yarkob

Most documentaries and bios of Snowden have him as a CIA contract agent before he became involved with NSA–could Snowden be a CIA mole inside the NSA? It would make sense–with Snowden selling the world “The Good American” myth while smearing the NSA’s public perception (which could affect NSA’s budget and their ability to recruit). At the time, CIA was having a huge Torture problem, perhaps, exposing the NSA was helpful to them in these two areas (budget and recruiting).

Snowden, unlike Assange, is an American citizen and has had his passport suspended. He has also been charged with a crime–so why didn’t CIA/NSA/FBI/DOD immediately have Snowden’s Twitter account suspended? Apparently they wanted him to continue chirping…

It was also under the Snowden/Greenwald/Guardian hype which the Assassination of Michael Hastings took place…it was just one or two days after the revelations began which saw Hastings vehicle blow up and race into a palm tree in LA. https://www.occupy.com/article/exclusive-who-killed-michael-hastings#sthash.U5OZpmPg.dpbs

I wouldn’t doubt if Snowden is eventually exchanged for a Russian spy…

flaxgirl
flaxgirl
Apr 25, 2019 5:31 AM
Reply to  systemicfraud

I tend to believe that Michael Hastings is also an agent – the amount of truth or quasi-truth they’re prepared to push out is pretty phenomenal. Was a speechwriter for Condi? It’s simply a case of they know anyone paying attention already suspects what is confirmed by them tends to be true anyway. The “partner killed by insurgents” and the book afterwards is something we’ve heard before and in the article you link to there’s “crumble-zone” instead of “crumple-zone” – the everpresent typo which in this case does have an air of deliberateness somehow as it’s kind of humorous – admittedly they occur naturally I know. You simply do not know who’s who – you really don’t.

From Wikipedia
The day before the crash, Hastings indicated that he believed he was being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In an email to colleagues, which was copied to and released by Hastings’ friend, Army Staff Sergeant Joe Biggs,[70] Hastings said that he was “onto a big story”, that he needed to “go off the radar”, and that the FBI might interview them.[71][72] WikiLeaks announced that Hastings had also contacted Jennifer Robinson, one of its lawyers, a few hours prior to the crash,[73] and the LA Weekly reported that he was preparing new reports on the CIA at the time of his death.[74] His widow Elise Jordan said his final story was a profile of CIA Director John O. Brennan.[75]

I think I’ve heard the “contacted people just prior to death about “a big story”” story before too. Really? He contacted Jennifer Robinson just a few hours before his death. What did he say? Did he say “I’ve got a big story”? Why wouldn’t he just wait till he had said story?

But I’d have to do more research to confirm whether Michael is an agent or was actually killed and that isn’t going to happen.

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 24, 2019 10:21 PM
Reply to  systemicfraud

About Assange being a “distraction”… I can only surmise that some people are easily distracted.
Most OffGuardian readers are not so easily deflected from seeing what matters, and even if today’s mainstream media are, indeed, quite happy to use Assange as a distraction (and they are), it doesn’t follow that people who care about the truth will lap up the same dog’s dinner as Daily Mail readers will.

The Required Name box
The Required Name box
Apr 27, 2019 4:10 AM
Reply to  systemicfraud

You must be REALLY stupid. According to your warped thinking, the Assange stand-off for nearly 7 years, then his final arrest must have been staged… yeah, right. What a fk’n idiot you must be.

hauptmanngurski
hauptmanngurski
Apr 24, 2019 2:39 AM

Had there been a wikileaks in 1990 to 1995 it would not have been so easy for the German Kohl Regime to abuse their power in the reunification process and get away with it. They violated the German Constitution by gifting our family’s land to the French government. Altough we do not know what exactly the Washington cabal did, David Brooks confirmed in 2011 that they had a hand in it.

When you have lots of money you can seek justice through the courts. When you do not, others fatten themselves up on your property. And then my brother in Berlin died. Had he not been the victim of abuse of power by the Kohl Regime & Co his violent death might have been avoided in 2008.

Corruption is not a victimless crime. Had there been an active wikileaks when they manipulated the German reunification, things might be different. They cheat on all levels, property, wars, anything.

I have been turned against America through my experiences. Had there been a wikileaks and the culprits, Kohl, Mitterrand, Pfahls, Brooks etc put behind bars – I would still believe the US was the best thing since sliced bread.

Alpine Observer
Alpine Observer
Apr 24, 2019 11:05 AM

The vast majority of East Germans supported, and still support the re-unification of Germany. Only the old die hard Communists and ex-party workers and apparatchiks still hanker for their lost privilidges.

Yarkob
Yarkob
Apr 24, 2019 11:16 AM

“privileges” lols – methinks their karma ran over their dogma..privileges like not being sent to the Stasi jail and not being spied on (or so they thought)

flaxgirl
flaxgirl
Apr 24, 2019 12:46 AM

Julian defied the gods and in punishment they sent him Mendacius in various forms including Chelsea, Adrian, Seth and Ben (Griffin) to trick him into giving up his soul. I hope they haven’t destroyed him and will show some mercy.

Alpine Observer
Alpine Observer
Apr 24, 2019 11:06 AM
Reply to  flaxgirl

Are you sure that the whole Assange thing is a massive cover up and that he’s actually a CIA agent? That’s your normal MO, what’s happening to you?

Alpine Observer
Alpine Observer
Apr 24, 2019 11:07 AM

“isn’t” not “is”

Yarkob
Yarkob
Apr 24, 2019 11:17 AM

good point. I’m surprised we’re not being told “Wikileaks never released anything about 9/11 therefore etc etc”

flaxgirl
flaxgirl
Apr 25, 2019 12:16 AM
Reply to  Yarkob

Yarkob, I do find it mystifying how Julian has not recognised 9/11, that is very, very mystifying but, like you, I try to be careful to not make anomalies mean things they don’t mean. When you look at Julian after 7 years in the Ecuadorian Embassy he is not looking in good shape at all. He’s not looking well at all. Nothing like the shape Chelsea was in after her alleged 7 years in prison in her ever-so-perky interview with Juju Chang – and he’s looking nothing like the the perky way she looked when she was led from the courtroom after being sentenced to 35 years in prison either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSx1VG8UnF8.

flaxgirl
flaxgirl
Apr 24, 2019 1:40 PM

My MO is reason, logic, evidence – certainly that’s what I aim for. Whenever you feel I’ve failed in that endeavors I’d appreciate your letting me know, Alpine Observer.

summitflyer
summitflyer
Apr 24, 2019 2:22 PM

Maybe learning , like the rest of us.Some come on sites such as this one with a lot of experience and research behind them,others not so much . But we are all learning ,sometimes from each other.
Cheers.

flaxgirl
flaxgirl
Apr 24, 2019 11:52 PM
Reply to  summitflyer

Very happy to learn, summitflyer, though I could certainly read more and do more research. To me, the main problem is entrenchment in belief or resistance to new beliefs rather than lack of learning – there are people who know tons and tons more than I do but their entrenchment in belief/resistance to new beliefs is what prevents them seeing the truth. I don’t understand it. Once you get the enormity of 9/11 and how in opposition it is to your paradigms of how the world works (assuming that revelation does confound your paradigms as it did mine), then, to me, it’s open slather as far as any beliefs go. I’ve changed my mind so many times about things over the last 5 years. I so wish I’d cottoned onto how they’ve totally taken Julian for a ride much sooner. Might have been able to help him. He was very foolish though to think he could get away with what he was trying to do. Very, very foolish.

To give an example of people being entrenched in a belief/resisting a new belief that will help them analyse events: the power elite tell us what they’re up to. Not a lot to learn there, is there? It’s a very simple statement … completely backed by evidence. In fact, in many cases the evidence cannot be explained except by this simple fact. It cannot be explained. When I first heard it myself from Ole Dammegard I didn’t have a nanosecond’s doubt because it simply explained so many things that had previously puzzled me. But how many people have accepted this proven fact as true on this website? Certainly not a regular commenter that I can think of.

It’s not just learning, summitflyer, it’s learning the right things. It’s cottoning on to what’s true and what isn’t. It’s about being careful in interpretation of evidence and using extremely helpful analytic tools when they’re presented to you gratis for goodness sake. And we all make mistakes no matter how careful we’re being and we need to recognise them when they’re pointed out or on reflection.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Apr 25, 2019 1:48 AM
Reply to  flaxgirl

“Very happy to learn, summitflyer, though I could certainly read more and do more research.”

You could try going to school. Quite literallly. What you don’t need is to do any more research without having a clue how to do research in itself. Enrol in a distance degree course or any other type of advanced education while-you-work, or get a grant and do it full time, any subject will do, then pick a topic within that field that interests you but is not one of, or central to, the obsessions that you exercise here, and go for a masters or even a doctorate to learn how to research.

Some of the people posting BTL here obviously have a lack of formal training but they also have a clear understanding of the process. All you have is a willing spirit–the brain part of your flesh doesn’t have a fucking clue. That doesn’t spell lost cause, it spells you are one of those who need to learn it. You read the meticulous work of people like the structural engineers lined up against the official version of the WTC and you bumble around trying to replicate it without having any apparent idea how to do that, i.e. how they do what they do. OR you know exactly what you’re doing, i.e. exercising an intent to sow confusion and promulgate stupidity as part of adding to the legion of mindless “conspiracy theorists” it’s easy for the established to laugh off. If you’re for real, get off that ambiguity fence by putting in some hard work and actually learning your Sunday craft or take your subversion elsewhere. And most of all get off the Occam’s razor bullshit, at least until you learn what it is and, particularly, its uses, misuses and abuses.

flaxgirl
flaxgirl
Apr 25, 2019 3:46 AM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

Robbobbobin, Can you please elucidate how I have not used Occam’s Razor correctly and how I have “bumbled around”? Always willing to learn, as I say. I’m not sure where I saw the comment, it may have been on OffG but someone said a teacher admonished in margins of their essays, “Specify, don’t characterise”. What you’re doing is characterising without specifying what I’m doing incorrectly. Without specifics everything you say is meaningless assertion.

Do you believe in the saw “the proof of the pudding is in the eating”? I have put up a $5,000 challenge for people to submit a 10-point Occam’s Razor exercise relating to 5 different hypotheses and the rules state the challenger can choose their own judge from a specified profession – I also state the rules are open to discussion. We both know for a fact that there are many people who disagree with my favoured hypotheses and yet no one, including you, has submitted their exercise or even a single point to support their favoured hypothesis. Not a single point. I call that “proof of the pudding”. What do you call it?
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/5000-challenge.html

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Apr 25, 2019 4:55 AM
Reply to  flaxgirl

‘Robbobbobin, Can you please elucidate how […] how I have “bumbled around”?’

Right here, right then. For starters.

No main course and no seconds on the starters instead.

You have my presumptuous and maybe wrong headed advice; you don’t want it. Your choice, your life (or neurosis or program or AI, as the case may be). Whichever way, OK by me. Over and out.

flaxgirl
flaxgirl
Apr 25, 2019 6:12 AM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

I’m afraid what you say makes no sense to me, Robbobbobin. I’m always happy to take advice but if you wish to give advice you need to point out exactly why I should take it. You’d need to specify how my Occam’s Razor exercise doesn’t qualify as such and displays “bumbling around” such that I’d benefit from doing a degree in engineering. Similarly, you’d need to specify where my argument shows I haven’t researched properly. I grant you I do not do thorough research – I readily admit to that, however, I still think that at a superficial level of research (often based on others’ detailed research) my arguments still work. I’m more of an analyst than a researcher.

What I can see is that it doesn’t matter how many years people have gone to school they do not know how to reason properly. One thing they really should teach at school but generally don’t I think (I don’t recall being taught them) are the logical fallacies. That would be of massive benefit when you’re arguing with people. You can point out how their argument fails because they’re engaging in ad hominen, cherrypicking, argument ad speculum, red herrings, etc. I can identify an ad hominem you’ve used on me and your argument above falls into the “argument by assertion” logical fallacy (an informal fallacy).

My advice to you – backed by what I’ve just cited – is become familiar with logical fallacies and try to avoid them in your argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

flaxgirl
flaxgirl
Apr 25, 2019 4:05 AM
Reply to  Robbobbobin

And just to add. Regardless of however wrong I might have Occam’s Razor why doesn’t someone submit their exercise according to their superior understanding of it? Why is there simply no exercise submitted at all according to anyone’s definition of Occam’s Razor? Why don’t you submit according to your definition? It would kill two birds with one stone, no? You’d put a stop to my annoying comments AND get $5,000. Perhaps you think I’d renege on my offer and not give you the $5,000 that your exercise clearly merits – but wouldn’t it be worth it to have the satisfaction of having me renege and show my unworthiness in addition to my stupidity? Isn’t there an incentive here, Robbobbobin, to submit according to your superior understanding of Occam’s Razor and at the same time force me to “take my subversion elsewhere”?

flaxgirl
flaxgirl
Apr 25, 2019 12:05 AM
Reply to  flaxgirl

Actually, I think I’m wrong including Seth Rich in “controlled opposition”. I think he’s in a different kettle of fish. I’d say the power elite planted him to genuinely leak the DNC information because they wanted Trump in. The Dems couldn’t call it out so they just had to grin and bear it – that smile on her dial must have cost Hillary. That’s all I can think of. He’s a complete mystery except that obviously the power elite are involved because of the completely bizarre ABC family tableau interview and all the weirdness in the reporting of his alleged death which has their fingerprints all over it. There’s no doubt the other three are controlled opposition. I guess there are various ways Wikileaks has been exploited.

Grafter
Grafter
Apr 23, 2019 11:22 PM

A must watch…….https://youtu.be/9n0Yu7bYF9E

inthewake
inthewake
Apr 23, 2019 11:14 PM

whats this about – a Swedish condom or spreading the fear of prosecution to any who blow cobwebs away from the slave system gangster narrative…..because theres many onto them – new revelations everyday…they may not see the “Assange” limelight – but will feel the ramifications.

summitflyer
summitflyer
Apr 24, 2019 2:23 PM
Reply to  inthewake

Thanks for the graphic statement . LOL

Portonchok
Portonchok
Apr 23, 2019 9:01 PM

I hope you are right Vitchek, however, I fear Orwell’s may have the upper hand:

“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever”.

BigB
BigB
Apr 23, 2019 7:54 PM

I was only doing this the other day, so I can’t be bothered to put forward much of a coherent argument. International World Capitalism (IWC) is still international; and World Systems Theory is still a globalised hierarchical tributary system – with no specific East and West. The neat bifurcation of Western and Eastern into quantifiably different forms of capital is still an asinine pseudo-construct. A product of personal bias and nothing else.

OK, this happened in the West – but the dynamics of relentless capital accumulation are global. The idea that there could be a neat Western shroud or funeral gown, that signals the demise and neat involution of the Western Empire …along the neat and predictable geographical lines on a map is beyond dumb. If the West goes, the East goes too. What is far more likely to occur, for reasons explained elsewhere, is that the East goes with global contagion spreading throughout Asia Pacific, into Australia and South America and rippling out from there. But there will be no neat hemispheric demarcation line, as anyone who has actually done any research knows. And an Eastern territorialisation of the collapsed Empire is still a death sentence for humanity. There are no humanist forms of capitalism.

China is the engine of the global dreambus, that humanity is driving off the net energy cliff. What has this to do with Julian? States, driven by the globalised dynamics of relentless capital accumulation, and GDP growthism – that’s ‘Global Death Protocol’ …will tend toward authoritarian autarchical self-protectionism. Think that is a purely Western phenomena – dream on. Humanity – as neo-statist automatic subjects – is locked into the same dialectical materialism with the capitalised statist insanity. And we will be, so long as oil extractivism and expansionism drives the globalised world economy. Relentless capital accumulation, fuelled by oil, is a coercive logic that all statism is following. That blind folly is the driverless economic rationale that is taking us over the entropic net energy cliff. Entropy has no East or West and nowhere to hide.

Don’t know what a net energy cliff looks like. You should.

https://images.app.goo.gl/bsnZ9DYfA8G4GJJG9

Current estimates put petroleum at an EROI of 14.12. OK for now, but things speed up from here as we pass the inflexion point on the parabola. States are unlikely to propose a transition to decentralised, renewable, low energy, neo-negentropic, applied appropriate tech, human scale solutions. They are more likely to tend toward authoritarian consensus forms of globalised governance – following their stated policy proposals. Humanity faces statist insanity: East and West. Simplistic binary demarcations exist only in the crypto-capitalist imaginal. From which no real insight and absolutely no coordinated resistance policy can emerge. I for one am sick of all this binary West bad, East good braindead headbanging. IWC is a sociopathological system: East and West.

Robbobbobin
Robbobbobin
Apr 25, 2019 2:15 AM
Reply to  BigB

“States are unlikely to propose a transition to decentralised, renewable, low energy, neo-negentropic, applied appropriate tech, human scale solutions.”

On the contrary, states will propose all of that, albeit going lightly on the decentralization bit, but with their own stately twist.

See http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/ for some good see-throughs…

Einstein
Einstein
Apr 23, 2019 7:37 PM

“In a time of tyranny, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”
– George Orwell.

summitflyer
summitflyer
Apr 23, 2019 5:35 PM

So well said André .There is not much to add to such veracity and you say it so well.We are fortunate to have Wikileaks ,Julian Assange and your reporting .The tide is changing .The downfall of the criminal establishment that has chained us for so long could not happen soon enough for me .

MIchael Leigh
MIchael Leigh
Apr 23, 2019 1:38 PM

It is most interesting to observe that a decade after the 15 November 2011 USA hosted a live TV video of the Christopher Hitchen/George Galloway debate ” which took place at ‘ a dual book ‘ launching event at it’s New York Hebrew University venue.

This was a remarkable over 100 minute event and it’s highly lauded political evidence of USA/UK criminality. is as valid today as it was when firstly recorded by USA television. and can still be viewed
( as of today ) !

By simply pointing your browser to the You Tube index and thereafter to the ” Greatest Debate “

Brian harry
Brian harry
Apr 23, 2019 10:49 PM
Reply to  MIchael Leigh

Found it, and a lot of other good stuff too….Thanks.

Helmut Taylor
Helmut Taylor
Apr 23, 2019 1:33 PM

Hear,hear!
Helmut in Francoforte; Ghadaffi got it worse, though, poor sod!

Stephen Morrell
Stephen Morrell
Apr 23, 2019 12:54 PM

Fine words, Andre. Thank you.