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		By: Tim Jenkins		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-88877</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Jenkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86530&quot;&gt;Robbobbobin&lt;/a&gt;.

Just for the record Robbo, twas&#039; I that gave you the thumbs up on this, however, my journalistic skills are pretty awful, imho ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86530">Robbobbobin</a>.</p>
<p>Just for the record Robbo, twas&#8217; I that gave you the thumbs up on this, however, my journalistic skills are pretty awful, imho &#8230;</p>
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		By: Tim Jenkins		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-88874</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Jenkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 11:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-88857&quot;&gt;Brian Steere&lt;/a&gt;.

Very well portrayed, Brian &#038; nicely kept whole, by bringing the whole complex notions &#038; values, (largely held within &#038; seldom discussed), a 360º full circle back to the relativity to the article &#038; subject matter,
with a certain poignancy and view to soul searching on matters of possession &#038; control, from 
&#039;The Possessed&#039; / &#039;Obsebene&#039;, the Cyrillic title sounding rather like (CK&#039;s) Obsession in a &#039;Mad World&#039;, the lyrics to which you posted and were also highly poignant, for me at least ... :) a pleasant reminder, in such mental fields of conflict presently: when the real conflict lies within ... as we know ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-88857">Brian Steere</a>.</p>
<p>Very well portrayed, Brian &amp; nicely kept whole, by bringing the whole complex notions &amp; values, (largely held within &amp; seldom discussed), a 360º full circle back to the relativity to the article &amp; subject matter,<br />
with a certain poignancy and view to soul searching on matters of possession &amp; control, from<br />
&#8216;The Possessed&#8217; / &#8216;Obsebene&#8217;, the Cyrillic title sounding rather like (CK&#8217;s) Obsession in a &#8216;Mad World&#8217;, the lyrics to which you posted and were also highly poignant, for me at least &#8230; 🙂 a pleasant reminder, in such mental fields of conflict presently: when the real conflict lies within &#8230; as we know 😉</p>
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		By: Brian Steere		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-88857</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Steere]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 10:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86622&quot;&gt;Tim Jenkins&lt;/a&gt;.

I hadn&#039;t met it - and recognise the idea of mutually exclusive yet balancing polarity. However I see exclusion as a mind framing filter. Within the mind-framed I - everything ELSE is Othered. I have a more holographic and fractal sense of life as many unique expressions of one without a second. And the recognition of wholeness is thus timeless - but yet beneath or within every moment of timing.
The subjected experience of insider to a physicalised experience is strange, wonderful and compelling - and incredibly open to forgetting.

About 99% of the physical Universe is at densities we assign or thought to define as empty space. Force and density do not apply in the way they do for the 1%. Yet as in the poem, the generation of density is in polarised relation to its dispersion. The movement of charge(polarity) separations to self organising patterns of relational structuring is not so far from &#039;God moved upon the waters&#039; in terms of resonant reflection as a primary communication without time or distance. All out terms are sketchy metaphor through which to open perspective and be-hold it is true resonant match - within the freedom to generate dissonance and differentiation as the ever new.
The term &#039;I&#039; can thus be imaged and aligned in as a seemingly private sphere of interest. That is exclusive by design. The attempt to expand this I sense is the attempt to possess and control Otherness - that is then driven by Otherness as a sense of lack or threat. (Just to bring it back to Venezuela).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86622">Tim Jenkins</a>.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t met it &#8211; and recognise the idea of mutually exclusive yet balancing polarity. However I see exclusion as a mind framing filter. Within the mind-framed I &#8211; everything ELSE is Othered. I have a more holographic and fractal sense of life as many unique expressions of one without a second. And the recognition of wholeness is thus timeless &#8211; but yet beneath or within every moment of timing.<br />
The subjected experience of insider to a physicalised experience is strange, wonderful and compelling &#8211; and incredibly open to forgetting.</p>
<p>About 99% of the physical Universe is at densities we assign or thought to define as empty space. Force and density do not apply in the way they do for the 1%. Yet as in the poem, the generation of density is in polarised relation to its dispersion. The movement of charge(polarity) separations to self organising patterns of relational structuring is not so far from &#8216;God moved upon the waters&#8217; in terms of resonant reflection as a primary communication without time or distance. All out terms are sketchy metaphor through which to open perspective and be-hold it is true resonant match &#8211; within the freedom to generate dissonance and differentiation as the ever new.<br />
The term &#8216;I&#8217; can thus be imaged and aligned in as a seemingly private sphere of interest. That is exclusive by design. The attempt to expand this I sense is the attempt to possess and control Otherness &#8211; that is then driven by Otherness as a sense of lack or threat. (Just to bring it back to Venezuela).</p>
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		By: davemass		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86774</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davemass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2019 12:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why didn&#039;t they shoot down these incursions?
The US won&#039;t stop until they have their hands on V&#039;a&#039;s oil, for their refineries in the States.
The refineries are geared for the heavy oil.
So let&#039;s get it on.  Get a few bodybags going back to the States...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t they shoot down these incursions?<br />
The US won&#8217;t stop until they have their hands on V&#8217;a&#8217;s oil, for their refineries in the States.<br />
The refineries are geared for the heavy oil.<br />
So let&#8217;s get it on.  Get a few bodybags going back to the States&#8230;</p>
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		By: Sue		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86682</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2019 03:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86421&quot;&gt;Gary&lt;/a&gt;.

My heart goes out to you, Gary. It&#039;s bad enough watching the walking psychosis that is the US hold the world to ransom for decades (and being a citizen of a country that kowtows so hard to Washington that our national broadcaster never reports on Washington&#039;s shenanigans, thus ensuring Australians continued lack of resistence against being such a lover and enabler of the beast. 

This is hard enough to handle. Being an actual US citizen as you are, and trying to get my own fellow citizens to see that the eagle is a vulture? I raise my cup of tea to you, Gary. Americans are some of the most propagandised humans on the planet.

(t does seem that more Americans have woken up to the horror show though over the past 15 years though. One of the benefits of the internet, I guess.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86421">Gary</a>.</p>
<p>My heart goes out to you, Gary. It&#8217;s bad enough watching the walking psychosis that is the US hold the world to ransom for decades (and being a citizen of a country that kowtows so hard to Washington that our national broadcaster never reports on Washington&#8217;s shenanigans, thus ensuring Australians continued lack of resistence against being such a lover and enabler of the beast. </p>
<p>This is hard enough to handle. Being an actual US citizen as you are, and trying to get my own fellow citizens to see that the eagle is a vulture? I raise my cup of tea to you, Gary. Americans are some of the most propagandised humans on the planet.</p>
<p>(t does seem that more Americans have woken up to the horror show though over the past 15 years though. One of the benefits of the internet, I guess.)</p>
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		By: nwwoods		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86638</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nwwoods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86254&quot;&gt;binra&lt;/a&gt;.

Consider the USA’s stated political goals in Venezuela and then consider that the US is the only country in the world to attack another with nuclear weapons and to attack another’s infrastructure with a cyber attack,
in cooperation with its sadistic junior partner the Israelis.
Circumstantial evidence matters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86254">binra</a>.</p>
<p>Consider the USA’s stated political goals in Venezuela and then consider that the US is the only country in the world to attack another with nuclear weapons and to attack another’s infrastructure with a cyber attack,<br />
in cooperation with its sadistic junior partner the Israelis.<br />
Circumstantial evidence matters.</p>
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		By: nwwoods		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86636</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nwwoods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86635&quot;&gt;nwwoods&lt;/a&gt;.

*ranked..not raked. Stupid phone]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86635">nwwoods</a>.</p>
<p>*ranked..not raked. Stupid phone</p>
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		By: nwwoods		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86635</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nwwoods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86318&quot;&gt;Al perez&lt;/a&gt;.

I have news for you, Little Guaido acolyte. A considerably larger portion of French GDP is publicly owned than its Venezuelan counterpart. It’s worth noting that France’s socialized health care system is raked by the World Health Organisation at #1 in the world. And citizens of France are on average wealthier than Canadians, Japanese, Brits and Americans.
Is it your contention that French socialism which is more socialist the Venezuelan socialism “has not worked”?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86318">Al perez</a>.</p>
<p>I have news for you, Little Guaido acolyte. A considerably larger portion of French GDP is publicly owned than its Venezuelan counterpart. It’s worth noting that France’s socialized health care system is raked by the World Health Organisation at #1 in the world. And citizens of France are on average wealthier than Canadians, Japanese, Brits and Americans.<br />
Is it your contention that French socialism which is more socialist the Venezuelan socialism “has not worked”?</p>
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		By: Tim Jenkins		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86622</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Jenkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86427&quot;&gt;binra&lt;/a&gt;.

Wise words again:- so, in the interests of  brevity, habitat, climate &#038;  &#039;Keeping things whole&#039;, i&#039;ll just quote a favourite old childhood poem, that was always easy to commit to memory :)

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;In a field
I am the absence
of field.
This is
always the case.
Wherever I am
I am what is missing.

When I walk
I part the air
and always
the air moves in   
to fill the spaces
where my body’s been.

We all have reasons
for moving.
I move
to keep things whole.
(Mark Strand)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

Somehow, I have the feeling you knew it already ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/venezuela-defeats-new-power-sabotage-in-hours/#comment-86427">binra</a>.</p>
<p>Wise words again:- so, in the interests of  brevity, habitat, climate &amp;  &#8216;Keeping things whole&#8217;, i&#8217;ll just quote a favourite old childhood poem, that was always easy to commit to memory 🙂</p>
<p><strong><em>In a field<br />
I am the absence<br />
of field.<br />
This is<br />
always the case.<br />
Wherever I am<br />
I am what is missing.</p>
<p>When I walk<br />
I part the air<br />
and always<br />
the air moves in<br />
to fill the spaces<br />
where my body’s been.</p>
<p>We all have reasons<br />
for moving.<br />
I move<br />
to keep things whole.<br />
(Mark Strand)</em></strong></p>
<p>Somehow, I have the feeling you knew it already &#8230;</p>
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