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		By: JDee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JDee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2020 08:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-164288&quot;&gt;Richard Le Sarc&lt;/a&gt;.

Havent we read from day 1 that the death figures of doctors and nurses was a total fabrication by the MSM?
Surely it is common knowledge by now that the novel C19 is itself a fabrication and a monstrous lie that duped the whole world into submission.
Isn&#039;t that what has been seen time and time again on this site and other alt. media sites?]]></description>
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<p>Havent we read from day 1 that the death figures of doctors and nurses was a total fabrication by the MSM?<br />
Surely it is common knowledge by now that the novel C19 is itself a fabrication and a monstrous lie that duped the whole world into submission.<br />
Isn&#8217;t that what has been seen time and time again on this site and other alt. media sites?</p>
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		By: Jane Goodall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Goodall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 05:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-164543&quot;&gt;Stonky&lt;/a&gt;.

So why are you even here then, bully?]]></description>
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<p>So why are you even here then, bully?</p>
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		By: malcolm		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-167856</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[malcolm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2020 15:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-164550&quot;&gt;Moneycircus&lt;/a&gt;.

I stopped commenting on the guardian after they deleted my comments which highlighted contradictions in the said article by linking back to a previous guardian article which averred the opposite.  the guardian doesn&#039;t like criticism of the article itself..]]></description>
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<p>I stopped commenting on the guardian after they deleted my comments which highlighted contradictions in the said article by linking back to a previous guardian article which averred the opposite.  the guardian doesn&#8217;t like criticism of the article itself..</p>
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		By: John Ervin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Ervin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2020 12:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-165535&quot;&gt;Richard Le Sarc&lt;/a&gt;.

You must be &quot;that guy&quot; Thomas Wolfe (aka &quot;Look Homeward, Angel&quot;) had in mind, if nigh a century past, when he wrote, &quot;The bearer of the torch at noon&quot;. 

Steinbeck the American was at the pre-dawn of his domestication when he wrote that. You can see the fingers of &quot;la recuperation&quot; -of controlling and containing his populist &quot;commie&quot; message- in the works of his that follow.

I met his late son Thom in Salinas during &quot;pop&#039;s&quot; Centennial (2002) and he said his two favorite books of his were &quot;In Dubious Battle&quot; and &quot;The Moon is Down&quot;. (I was given a choice from among 20 Californian cities for a temporary job assignment, and I chose his birthplace, as it was in  throes of his Centennial, one of my smarter -or less dumb- moves in 2002, as it brought huge dividends with the things I stumbled upon, just amazing, not the least of which was godly oxygen, the air is about 100 times better than the L.A. area. I took the was &quot;In Dubious Battle&quot; book and others and read a lot of his oeuvre in the long grass next to père Steinbeck&#039;s grave, on my off days. The mise en scene is in that area just north a stone&#039;s throw, and the aura of that California still thrills and thrives there. Later in the month I literally bumped into Steinbeck, fils, who was launching his first book of fiction, &quot;Down to a Soundless Sea&quot; which shines from the father&#039;s storytelling gene. He signed a copy with a first day decal for my mother, who had been a huge fan of his dad&#039;s- her mom&#039;s nephew, Roman Bohnen, her favorite cousin, had invited her to sit in on the set when he played &quot;Candy&quot; in the Lewis Milestone original, &quot;Of Mice and Men&quot; -which, as an added treat, they have on  continuous loop, projected on a screen in one of the museum rooms of The National Steinbeck Center, in the little old downtown area where many of his storylines played out, such as &quot;East of Eden&quot;. I was going to write Thom a couple years ago, but looked him up and found he had died of c.o.p.d. a few months before. At least he escaped being tagged for Covid. He told a group how he had been dispatched as a sort of Adrian Kronauer to do a radio show in Viet Nam and almost immediately found himself in a combat situation, strapped into a chopper, as a tailgunner, where he complied, since, as he put it, &quot;Very simply, I wanted to keep breathing.&quot; The PTSD is implicit, as he became a chronic smoker, and ultimately died before his time of respiratory disease. You don&#039;t have to be an idly speculative Conspiracy Theorists to see the long arm of the CIA up to its old tricks in all those coincidences. Straight outta &quot;The Quiet American&quot;. His brother John IV also had a fascinating stint and stayed behind to become a Buddhist monk. His mistake was to come back here to nearby La Jolla, where he died youngish in surgery for his back? All 3 of them died before their time. A Russian journalist, when père Steinbeck spoke in Moscow in the 1960s, asked him how he had strayed from his original populist focus, &quot;You used to write about true things...&quot; Steinbeck defended himself, ably enough, but prefaced the remark by calling the questioner, &quot;You son of a bitch.&quot; He had touched that deep groin of the &quot;American Myth&quot; where our tenderest nerves cross. His lifelong fondness for wine increased notably after effing Henry Fonda was cast as the lead in &quot;Grapes of Wrath&quot; and then he married Elaine, his last wife, a Hollywood piece of work, and the domestication took his edge. Still some good work followed, but he lost some of his sense of pitch, or it was recessed.)

But I digress. I was using &quot;free man&quot; not in the American or mass-produced mythic sense, or even the Steinbeckian, but ONLY in the Pickwickian.

Besides, I translate it always: &#039;free man&#039; has no real earthly, least of all political, sense to me at all.

As Nathaniel Hawthorne put it, &quot;For I am a citizen of Somewhere Else.&quot;

_______________£4£

&quot;In the deserts of the heart
Let the healing fountain start.
In the prison of his days
Teach the free man how to praise.&quot;

~Auden]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-165535">Richard Le Sarc</a>.</p>
<p>You must be &#8220;that guy&#8221; Thomas Wolfe (aka &#8220;Look Homeward, Angel&#8221;) had in mind, if nigh a century past, when he wrote, &#8220;The bearer of the torch at noon&#8221;. </p>
<p>Steinbeck the American was at the pre-dawn of his domestication when he wrote that. You can see the fingers of &#8220;la recuperation&#8221; -of controlling and containing his populist &#8220;commie&#8221; message- in the works of his that follow.</p>
<p>I met his late son Thom in Salinas during &#8220;pop&#8217;s&#8221; Centennial (2002) and he said his two favorite books of his were &#8220;In Dubious Battle&#8221; and &#8220;The Moon is Down&#8221;. (I was given a choice from among 20 Californian cities for a temporary job assignment, and I chose his birthplace, as it was in  throes of his Centennial, one of my smarter -or less dumb- moves in 2002, as it brought huge dividends with the things I stumbled upon, just amazing, not the least of which was godly oxygen, the air is about 100 times better than the L.A. area. I took the was &#8220;In Dubious Battle&#8221; book and others and read a lot of his oeuvre in the long grass next to père Steinbeck&#8217;s grave, on my off days. The mise en scene is in that area just north a stone&#8217;s throw, and the aura of that California still thrills and thrives there. Later in the month I literally bumped into Steinbeck, fils, who was launching his first book of fiction, &#8220;Down to a Soundless Sea&#8221; which shines from the father&#8217;s storytelling gene. He signed a copy with a first day decal for my mother, who had been a huge fan of his dad&#8217;s- her mom&#8217;s nephew, Roman Bohnen, her favorite cousin, had invited her to sit in on the set when he played &#8220;Candy&#8221; in the Lewis Milestone original, &#8220;Of Mice and Men&#8221; -which, as an added treat, they have on  continuous loop, projected on a screen in one of the museum rooms of The National Steinbeck Center, in the little old downtown area where many of his storylines played out, such as &#8220;East of Eden&#8221;. I was going to write Thom a couple years ago, but looked him up and found he had died of c.o.p.d. a few months before. At least he escaped being tagged for Covid. He told a group how he had been dispatched as a sort of Adrian Kronauer to do a radio show in Viet Nam and almost immediately found himself in a combat situation, strapped into a chopper, as a tailgunner, where he complied, since, as he put it, &#8220;Very simply, I wanted to keep breathing.&#8221; The PTSD is implicit, as he became a chronic smoker, and ultimately died before his time of respiratory disease. You don&#8217;t have to be an idly speculative Conspiracy Theorists to see the long arm of the CIA up to its old tricks in all those coincidences. Straight outta &#8220;The Quiet American&#8221;. His brother John IV also had a fascinating stint and stayed behind to become a Buddhist monk. His mistake was to come back here to nearby La Jolla, where he died youngish in surgery for his back? All 3 of them died before their time. A Russian journalist, when père Steinbeck spoke in Moscow in the 1960s, asked him how he had strayed from his original populist focus, &#8220;You used to write about true things&#8230;&#8221; Steinbeck defended himself, ably enough, but prefaced the remark by calling the questioner, &#8220;You son of a bitch.&#8221; He had touched that deep groin of the &#8220;American Myth&#8221; where our tenderest nerves cross. His lifelong fondness for wine increased notably after effing Henry Fonda was cast as the lead in &#8220;Grapes of Wrath&#8221; and then he married Elaine, his last wife, a Hollywood piece of work, and the domestication took his edge. Still some good work followed, but he lost some of his sense of pitch, or it was recessed.)</p>
<p>But I digress. I was using &#8220;free man&#8221; not in the American or mass-produced mythic sense, or even the Steinbeckian, but ONLY in the Pickwickian.</p>
<p>Besides, I translate it always: &#8216;free man&#8217; has no real earthly, least of all political, sense to me at all.</p>
<p>As Nathaniel Hawthorne put it, &#8220;For I am a citizen of Somewhere Else.&#8221;</p>
<p>_______________£4£</p>
<p>&#8220;In the deserts of the heart<br />
Let the healing fountain start.<br />
In the prison of his days<br />
Teach the free man how to praise.&#8221;</p>
<p>~Auden</p>
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		By: Sam - Admin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam - Admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 13:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-165481&quot;&gt;Richard Le Sarc&lt;/a&gt;.

I recognise that Russia, for instance, at a certain point in time was deporting itself well on the international stage, against a backdrop of Russophobia. I wasn&#039;t under the impression they were beyond question and I suggest that China should be viewed similarly. States act in their own self-interest and, as we witness in our own countries, this isn&#039;t always, or even often, in the interests of its people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-165481">Richard Le Sarc</a>.</p>
<p>I recognise that Russia, for instance, at a certain point in time was deporting itself well on the international stage, against a backdrop of Russophobia. I wasn&#8217;t under the impression they were beyond question and I suggest that China should be viewed similarly. States act in their own self-interest and, as we witness in our own countries, this isn&#8217;t always, or even often, in the interests of its people.</p>
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		By: Cheezilla		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-165594</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheezilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 12:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-164099&quot;&gt;Magnus&lt;/a&gt;.

I was referring to a tour in the 1990s, that was mostly cancelled because people who were desperate to silence him pressurised the hosting theatre groups. We were fortunate to see him in a small independent theatre.]]></description>
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<p>I was referring to a tour in the 1990s, that was mostly cancelled because people who were desperate to silence him pressurised the hosting theatre groups. We were fortunate to see him in a small independent theatre.</p>
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		By: Richard Le Sarc		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-165535</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Le Sarc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 10:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-163994&quot;&gt;John Ervin&lt;/a&gt;.

No such thing as a &#039;free&#039; man, J.E. An American Myth.]]></description>
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<p>No such thing as a &#8216;free&#8217; man, J.E. An American Myth.</p>
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		By: Richard Le Sarc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Le Sarc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 10:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-163836&quot;&gt;Moneycircus&lt;/a&gt;.

You could pop over to the Richard Lugar Centre for Public Health Research (rather like the Josef Mengele School for Talented Children)in Tbilisi to ask them if they&#039;ve done any research on bats lately.]]></description>
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<p>You could pop over to the Richard Lugar Centre for Public Health Research (rather like the Josef Mengele School for Talented Children)in Tbilisi to ask them if they&#8217;ve done any research on bats lately.</p>
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		By: Richard Le Sarc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Le Sarc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 10:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/04/this-week-in-the-guardian-6/#comment-164564&quot;&gt;Gezzah Potts&lt;/a&gt;.

A couple of good local breweries, too.]]></description>
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<p>A couple of good local breweries, too.</p>
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