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		By: Arby		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 11:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Liberals know the U.S. government is a pathological liar&quot; and believe that there is a covid 19 virus even though that hasn&#039;t been, truly, proven?
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I missed this article. I&#039;m glad I found it. It&#039;s a pretty good rant. I don&#039;t know what to make of climate crisis. (I initially thought it was a certainty.) I can certainly support the idea of environmental crisis, which shows no signs of lessening since the forces arrayed against God and nature are winning. The roll-out of the global biosecurity police State is in progress. Those are the folks whose idea of salvation is, after themselves, manmade chemicals, including pharmaceuticals, which just happen to kill a lot of people in America each year when taken as prescribed! Andrew Kaufman estimates that something like a million Americans per year are offed by iatrogenic means. The definition of &#039;iatrogenic&#039; includes the idea that those are unintentional deaths. We&#039;ve seen something different. (Some deaths due to health care practices and medicines will be unintentional for sure.) Vaccine makers don&#039;t intend to be safe, Do they? If they did, they wouldn&#039;t need legal immunity for prosecution for harming people with their evil concoctions. And we&#039;ve seen how doctors are making money off of covid 19, which is in turn killing lots of people indirectly. The lockdown has led to many deaths from suicides and will continue to as businesses and jobs continue to vaporize and as mental health declines and severe depression and fear increases. Are the doctors and hospital administrators who are making money off of covid 19 (See Scott Jensen&#039;s reports on that.) There&#039;s an article or two on Off Guardian about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Liberals know the U.S. government is a pathological liar&#8221; and believe that there is a covid 19 virus even though that hasn&#8217;t been, truly, proven?<br />
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I missed this article. I&#8217;m glad I found it. It&#8217;s a pretty good rant. I don&#8217;t know what to make of climate crisis. (I initially thought it was a certainty.) I can certainly support the idea of environmental crisis, which shows no signs of lessening since the forces arrayed against God and nature are winning. The roll-out of the global biosecurity police State is in progress. Those are the folks whose idea of salvation is, after themselves, manmade chemicals, including pharmaceuticals, which just happen to kill a lot of people in America each year when taken as prescribed! Andrew Kaufman estimates that something like a million Americans per year are offed by iatrogenic means. The definition of &#8216;iatrogenic&#8217; includes the idea that those are unintentional deaths. We&#8217;ve seen something different. (Some deaths due to health care practices and medicines will be unintentional for sure.) Vaccine makers don&#8217;t intend to be safe, Do they? If they did, they wouldn&#8217;t need legal immunity for prosecution for harming people with their evil concoctions. And we&#8217;ve seen how doctors are making money off of covid 19, which is in turn killing lots of people indirectly. The lockdown has led to many deaths from suicides and will continue to as businesses and jobs continue to vaporize and as mental health declines and severe depression and fear increases. Are the doctors and hospital administrators who are making money off of covid 19 (See Scott Jensen&#8217;s reports on that.) There&#8217;s an article or two on Off Guardian about it.</p>
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		By: AMR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2020 09:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many thanks for this excellent article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for this excellent article.</p>
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		By: Susan Guest		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-189245</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 08:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is excellent!  I have been watching for twenty years these inversions in my heartbreakingly former liberal friends and wondering how it was achieved.  From their dead silence over Obama’s war crimes to their over the top meltdown when Trump was elected to chanting the fake narratives of Russia and Ukraine - and their complete refusal to even WATCH Joe Biden’s boast to the CFR of actually DOING what Trump was accused of never mind his roving hands all over children - they won’t even watch it - just like now, in the COVID hoax, they won’t even READ real science contradicting ‘the asymptomatic spread it’ or ‘six feet apart’ or ‘masks.’  Instead, as I have scientific research that contradicts these claims, they call ME a ‘science denier.’  How on earth was this complete inversion of reality in a specific group of people achieved?  And it does matter, because these are the people forcing the healthy into unhealthy, unwanted actions.  And more.  I’M the one being driven crazy by their incessant babbling of weaponized media driven lies.  And when I find the truth and try to show it to them, I’m called a ‘paranoid conspiracy theorist’ and a ‘science denier.’  Just like the media told them to.  It is not sane.  What DO we do?  Thank you, Mr. Pear, for showing me I am not alone in my observations!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is excellent!  I have been watching for twenty years these inversions in my heartbreakingly former liberal friends and wondering how it was achieved.  From their dead silence over Obama’s war crimes to their over the top meltdown when Trump was elected to chanting the fake narratives of Russia and Ukraine &#8211; and their complete refusal to even WATCH Joe Biden’s boast to the CFR of actually DOING what Trump was accused of never mind his roving hands all over children &#8211; they won’t even watch it &#8211; just like now, in the COVID hoax, they won’t even READ real science contradicting ‘the asymptomatic spread it’ or ‘six feet apart’ or ‘masks.’  Instead, as I have scientific research that contradicts these claims, they call ME a ‘science denier.’  How on earth was this complete inversion of reality in a specific group of people achieved?  And it does matter, because these are the people forcing the healthy into unhealthy, unwanted actions.  And more.  I’M the one being driven crazy by their incessant babbling of weaponized media driven lies.  And when I find the truth and try to show it to them, I’m called a ‘paranoid conspiracy theorist’ and a ‘science denier.’  Just like the media told them to.  It is not sane.  What DO we do?  Thank you, Mr. Pear, for showing me I am not alone in my observations!</p>
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		By: Amtrup		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-189215</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amtrup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 07:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-188801&quot;&gt;David W Pear&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you again too for answering my questions. :) I understand very well what you mean about the war crimes committed by states/governments etc which go unpunished and unprevented and about the unavoidable complicity /involvement of every citizen/person on the planet in that,  but I don&#039;t understand why you believe a position of pacifist inactivity is &quot;morally bankrupt&quot;. Every action leads to an equal and usually opposing reaction. There is a philosophical argument for doing nothing or as little as possible, because you do not know what your actions might cost .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-188801">David W Pear</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you again too for answering my questions. 🙂 I understand very well what you mean about the war crimes committed by states/governments etc which go unpunished and unprevented and about the unavoidable complicity /involvement of every citizen/person on the planet in that,  but I don&#8217;t understand why you believe a position of pacifist inactivity is &#8220;morally bankrupt&#8221;. Every action leads to an equal and usually opposing reaction. There is a philosophical argument for doing nothing or as little as possible, because you do not know what your actions might cost .</p>
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		By: David W Pear		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 13:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-188592&quot;&gt;Amtrup&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t think anybody except people living under a rock cannot know what the US and its cronies are doing, the millions of people that are suffering, the deaths, the illegal sanctions.  Too many people can see but are willfully blind, and even approve out of ignorance or malice.  Yes, if people are held accountable for what their government does then they will recognize a moral obligation to oppose it;  especially in a so-called democracy such as the US.  This is a philosophical issues and I understand your position but I do not respect it because it is morally bankrupt--- I mean no disrespect to you personally.  We can all do more, including me.  I do what I can by writing and protesting.  I have been to Palestine three time, volunteered with ISM and faced down IDF submachine guns literally.  I could and should be doing more.  If I had the power personally to bring Bush, Obama, Trump immediately to justice I would do so, but you know as a practical matter that is not possible now; but there is not a statue of limitations for war crimes, and there is universal jurisdiction, so war criminals have to always be looking over their shoulder.  They should constantly be called out for what they are.  They should not be respected by bootlickers.  I do not consider my position extreme, not while millions of people have suffer and live in refugee camps, drink dirty water, go without food, education, medicine and the basics of life because corporations and oligarchs want to improve their bottom line.  War crimes are the worst of all crimes.
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Thank you for reading my article and commenting.  BDS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-188592">Amtrup</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anybody except people living under a rock cannot know what the US and its cronies are doing, the millions of people that are suffering, the deaths, the illegal sanctions.  Too many people can see but are willfully blind, and even approve out of ignorance or malice.  Yes, if people are held accountable for what their government does then they will recognize a moral obligation to oppose it;  especially in a so-called democracy such as the US.  This is a philosophical issues and I understand your position but I do not respect it because it is morally bankrupt&#8212; I mean no disrespect to you personally.  We can all do more, including me.  I do what I can by writing and protesting.  I have been to Palestine three time, volunteered with ISM and faced down IDF submachine guns literally.  I could and should be doing more.  If I had the power personally to bring Bush, Obama, Trump immediately to justice I would do so, but you know as a practical matter that is not possible now; but there is not a statue of limitations for war crimes, and there is universal jurisdiction, so war criminals have to always be looking over their shoulder.  They should constantly be called out for what they are.  They should not be respected by bootlickers.  I do not consider my position extreme, not while millions of people have suffer and live in refugee camps, drink dirty water, go without food, education, medicine and the basics of life because corporations and oligarchs want to improve their bottom line.  War crimes are the worst of all crimes.<br />
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Thank you for reading my article and commenting.  BDS.</p>
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		By: Steve Hayes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Hayes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 10:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-188474&quot;&gt;David W Pear&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;&lt;span&gt;I am responsible and every American is responsible for what the US government does, and I will gladly debate that.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span&gt;OK. So, as a US citizen, try prosecuting President Trump for war crimes. He, along with other members of the US state, is clearly guilty of war crimes, but I doubt you would even get to first base if you tried to bring a prosecution. Actually, given the vehemence of your rhetoric, I find it surprising that you have not already done so - I suspect that is because you know ordinary citizens are unable to hold their leaders to account.&lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-188474">David W Pear</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;<span>I am responsible and every American is responsible for what the US government does, and I will gladly debate that.&#8221;</span><br />
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<span>OK. So, as a US citizen, try prosecuting President Trump for war crimes. He, along with other members of the US state, is clearly guilty of war crimes, but I doubt you would even get to first base if you tried to bring a prosecution. Actually, given the vehemence of your rhetoric, I find it surprising that you have not already done so &#8211; I suspect that is because you know ordinary citizens are unable to hold their leaders to account.</span></p>
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		By: Amtrup		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amtrup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 09:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-188592&quot;&gt;Amtrup&lt;/a&gt;.

PS.  ie.  If people paid more attention, close attention, to their immediate environment and their own actions, perhaps half of the world&#039;s crimes would vanish.]]></description>
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<p>PS.  ie.  If people paid more attention, close attention, to their immediate environment and their own actions, perhaps half of the world&#8217;s crimes would vanish.</p>
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		By: Amtrup		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amtrup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 07:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-188528&quot;&gt;David W Pear&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m half German,  have many relatives who&#039;ve experienced it/grown up with it. Thank you for your reply again. I don&#039;t know if there is even one country on earth where I could live without having to become a full time and probably lifelong protestor, according to  your criteria for complicity/responsibility/&quot;guilt&quot;. It&#039;s an interesting if extreme/absolutist position to hold. What do you mean by &quot;as much as one can&quot;?  I believe that everyone is already doing everything they can, is already doing the only thing they can, their best. Do you think that it is helpful ( likely to lead to &quot;better&quot; behaviour ), to persuade people that they are responsible for/complicit in anything that they cannot see themselves actually doing with their own eyes?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/05/medical-martial-law-liberalisms-final-capitulation/#comment-188528">David W Pear</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m half German,  have many relatives who&#8217;ve experienced it/grown up with it. Thank you for your reply again. I don&#8217;t know if there is even one country on earth where I could live without having to become a full time and probably lifelong protestor, according to  your criteria for complicity/responsibility/&#8221;guilt&#8221;. It&#8217;s an interesting if extreme/absolutist position to hold. What do you mean by &#8220;as much as one can&#8221;?  I believe that everyone is already doing everything they can, is already doing the only thing they can, their best. Do you think that it is helpful ( likely to lead to &#8220;better&#8221; behaviour ), to persuade people that they are responsible for/complicit in anything that they cannot see themselves actually doing with their own eyes?</p>
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		By: fred		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 06:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Every instance of the word &quot;liberal&quot; should have been replaced with the words &quot;so called liberal&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;These so called liberals don&#039;t speak for me, they are identity politics agents, agents provocateur; propagandists etc. They are puppets in an orchestrated agenda.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every instance of the word &#8220;liberal&#8221; should have been replaced with the words &#8220;so called liberal&#8221;.</p>
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<p>These so called liberals don&#8217;t speak for me, they are identity politics agents, agents provocateur; propagandists etc. They are puppets in an orchestrated agenda.</p>
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