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		By: paul		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-482692</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2022 18:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Everybody thinks there&#039;s going to be a war between Russia and Ukraine (except Russia and Ukraine.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody thinks there&#8217;s going to be a war between Russia and Ukraine (except Russia and Ukraine.)</p>
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		By: Berlin Beerman		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-481282</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berlin Beerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2022 03:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480308&quot;&gt;mgeo&lt;/a&gt;.

I can see your still having issues with that word Trump. Lets put it another way shall we... &quot; lets make Canada great again&quot; there, better?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480308">mgeo</a>.</p>
<p>I can see your still having issues with that word Trump. Lets put it another way shall we&#8230; &#8221; lets make Canada great again&#8221; there, better?</p>
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		By: Marks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 19:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Be careful with your typos. &lt;span&gt;Zoran Milanović - NOT Milosovic (who was ex-Serb nationalist president)&lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful with your typos. <span>Zoran Milanović &#8211; NOT Milosovic (who was ex-Serb nationalist president)</span></p>
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		By: paul		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480697</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 14:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Putin is constantly scheming and plotting to invade Latvia and Estonia.
He plans to seize the Latvian peat bogs and the Estonian lap dancing bars.
Liz Truss and Ben Wallace must do something about this now!
Save the peat bogs!!
Throw a ring of steel around the lap dancing bars!!!
We must act now!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putin is constantly scheming and plotting to invade Latvia and Estonia.<br />
He plans to seize the Latvian peat bogs and the Estonian lap dancing bars.<br />
Liz Truss and Ben Wallace must do something about this now!<br />
Save the peat bogs!!<br />
Throw a ring of steel around the lap dancing bars!!!<br />
We must act now!!!!</p>
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		By: les online		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480600</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[les online]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 03:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480109&quot;&gt;Martin Usher&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;strong&gt;There&#039;s a never ending WW2 documentary series on one of the local TV channels. &lt;/strong&gt; Mostly about the German Nasties - of course. One recent episode mentioned that Hungarian and other national forces took part in the invasion of Russia...Shocking, but only because such details have never before been aired...
There were Frenchies who also fought on the Nazi side. One group ,SS Charlemagne (16,000), actively defended Berlin, and Hitler&#039; Bunker, during the war&#039;s last days.
This hasnt yet been mentioned in the series.. Maybe considered still too politically sensitive ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480109">Martin Usher</a>.</p>
<p><strong>There&#8217;s a never ending WW2 documentary series on one of the local TV channels. </strong> Mostly about the German Nasties &#8211; of course. One recent episode mentioned that Hungarian and other national forces took part in the invasion of Russia&#8230;Shocking, but only because such details have never before been aired&#8230;<br />
There were Frenchies who also fought on the Nazi side. One group ,SS Charlemagne (16,000), actively defended Berlin, and Hitler&#8217; Bunker, during the war&#8217;s last days.<br />
This hasnt yet been mentioned in the series.. Maybe considered still too politically sensitive ?</p>
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		By: paul		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480410</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2022 15:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480304&quot;&gt;mgeo&lt;/a&gt;.

No, just economic and demographic studies of Ukraine over the past 30 years.
At independence, Ukraine was the most prosperous and highly developed part of the Soviet Union with a population of 52 million. It had advanced industries and an educated and highly skilled work force. Oil. coal, steel, metallurgy, chemicals, aircraft, motor vehicles, shipbuilding, turbines, agricultural machinery, engineering, machine tools, armaments, missiles, space craft. Every helicopter engine used in the Soviet Union and all its worldwide export customers was made there.
By 2010, after 20 years of non stop looting by oligarch kleptocrats and Wall Street parasites, all this had gone. The number of machine building enterprises had fallen from 1,000 to 3 hanging on by their fingertips. Alcohol, drugs, prostitution, endemic organised crime, mass unemployment, poverty. The average income per head was slightly above Syria and slightly below Egypt, a failed state. Current income perhead about $4,000, less than Jordan. A veritable s***hole. The population had fallen to 38 million, with another 7.5 million scratching a living working abroad.
That was before Maidan. Since then, Crimea and the Donbas have been lost, with around another 5 million people. So the population has fallen by around 35% since 1991.
The only future Ukraine has is as an impoverished, depopulated backwater, a playground for foreign agribusiness (Monsanto), extractive industries (Joe Biden&#039;s son), and if they are lucky, some sweatshop type manufacturing. The same pattern as the Baltic States.
Who in their right mind would want to take that on?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480304">mgeo</a>.</p>
<p>No, just economic and demographic studies of Ukraine over the past 30 years.<br />
At independence, Ukraine was the most prosperous and highly developed part of the Soviet Union with a population of 52 million. It had advanced industries and an educated and highly skilled work force. Oil. coal, steel, metallurgy, chemicals, aircraft, motor vehicles, shipbuilding, turbines, agricultural machinery, engineering, machine tools, armaments, missiles, space craft. Every helicopter engine used in the Soviet Union and all its worldwide export customers was made there.<br />
By 2010, after 20 years of non stop looting by oligarch kleptocrats and Wall Street parasites, all this had gone. The number of machine building enterprises had fallen from 1,000 to 3 hanging on by their fingertips. Alcohol, drugs, prostitution, endemic organised crime, mass unemployment, poverty. The average income per head was slightly above Syria and slightly below Egypt, a failed state. Current income perhead about $4,000, less than Jordan. A veritable s***hole. The population had fallen to 38 million, with another 7.5 million scratching a living working abroad.<br />
That was before Maidan. Since then, Crimea and the Donbas have been lost, with around another 5 million people. So the population has fallen by around 35% since 1991.<br />
The only future Ukraine has is as an impoverished, depopulated backwater, a playground for foreign agribusiness (Monsanto), extractive industries (Joe Biden&#8217;s son), and if they are lucky, some sweatshop type manufacturing. The same pattern as the Baltic States.<br />
Who in their right mind would want to take that on?</p>
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		By: mgeo		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480316</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mgeo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2022 08:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480305&quot;&gt;mgeo&lt;/a&gt;.

As well as the super-scam of insurance.]]></description>
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<p>As well as the super-scam of insurance.</p>
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		By: mgeo		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480309</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mgeo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2022 08:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480013&quot;&gt;Davemass&lt;/a&gt;.

Making concessions it intends to renege on is characteristic of capitalism. Karl Marx said it in 1867, and Theodore Kaczynski in 1995.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480013">Davemass</a>.</p>
<p>Making concessions it intends to renege on is characteristic of capitalism. Karl Marx said it in 1867, and Theodore Kaczynski in 1995.</p>
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		By: mgeo		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480308</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mgeo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2022 08:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480032&quot;&gt;Berlin Beerman&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;em&gt;America had its chance at fixing everything&lt;/em&gt;
Spoken like a true believer in capitalism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/04/putins-long-game-of-diplomatic-dialogue/#comment-480032">Berlin Beerman</a>.</p>
<p><em>America had its chance at fixing everything</em><br />
Spoken like a true believer in capitalism.</p>
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