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Putin’s Long Game of Diplomatic Dialogue

Renee Parsons

With war always a popular gambit to rescue a President’s plunging poll numbers, the proposed war in Ukraine serves multiple purposes for Biden’s dreary administration: as a desperate gamble to save his own political butt, to divert attention from the struggle over its unraveling Covid strategy and destabilizing its arch-enemy Russia is always a worthy past time.

Yet the drama to escalate military action in Ukraine with ‘heightened preparedness” of a token 8,500 American troops lacks the persuasive spectacle of a first rate global crisis as once-reliable US allies are not on board even before the first shot is fired.

The current US ‘disinformation’ campaign alleging Russian aggression is nothing new to Ukraine. We have seen this game before. It is a rekindled version of the US State Department-led overthrow of democratically elected Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014.

By refusing to accept NATO membership which would have put a vast array of military missiles and weapons within spitting distance of mainland Russia, across the Kerch Strait to the Russian border, Yanukovych’s presidency was doomed.

Think of it as akin to having Russian ballistic missiles located in Havana, Cuba in October, 1962 ninety miles off the Florida coast.

In protecting US sovereignty, JFK was willing to risk world peace to have those foreign missiles removed. Yet Putin is not allowed the same protection of Russia’s border from NATO’s ongoing strategy of eastern expansion. If JFK was unwilling to live with foreign missiles pointed at the US mainland, why should Russia be forced to experience that same threat?

In 2013, after Yanukovych rejected a European Union trade deal unfavorable to Ukraine, Noble Peace prize winner Obama sent a low-level State Department official Victoria Nuland to Kiev to sponsor street protests and orchestrate an unprovoked attack on Russia with the takedown of Yanukovych.

Nuland’s neo-con role became obvious with her infamous ‘Fuck the EU’ comment while she and then US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt were strategizing how to finagle their choice for Prime Minister as they muscled Yanukovych out of the Presidency. Three weeks later, he fled for his life to Russia.

Among the false narratives being portrayed today by an obedient media who habitually distort the history is that Russia ‘invaded’ Ukraine in 2014, that it illegally seized the Crimean peninsula and are now coming back to seal the deal with a full-scale invasion. The fantasy spun by a deceitful US media and a warped foreign policy establishment is not even close to the truth.

There was no Russian invasion into Ukraine in 2014 and in that same year, Crimea residents voted an overwhelming 95% majority in a referendum to return the peninsula to Russia. In 1783, Empress Catherine the Great annexed the Crimean peninsula to Russia as part of her shrewd agenda to accumulate valuable ports throughout the Black Sea.

After several years of British and US Navy destroyers flaunting their presence in the Black Sea, sailing through the Bosporus, thumbing its nose at Russian sovereignty, the US renewed its demand for NATO to increase its military presence along Ukraine’s eastern Russian-speaking border. In response, Russia has a significant troop presence at the border as the US interpreted the Russian response as ‘aggression’ and sure sign of an imminent invasion.

As part of the diplomatic crisis game, the US announced its withdrawal of US embassy personnel from Ukraine, EU Foreign Policy Chief Josep Borrell declared:

We are not going to do the same thing. You have to stay calm…and avoid a nervous breakdown.”

At the same time, Croatian President Zoran Milosevic announced he would not allow his troops to participate in any conflict as Bulgaria also agreed to not participate in any armed conflict. Milanovic said:

Not only will we not send the military, but if there is an escalation, we will recall every last Croatian military man…This has nothing to do with Ukraine or Russia, it has to do with the dynamics of American domestic politics.”

In addition, Ukraine Defense Minister Aleksey Resnikov in Kiev confirmed that “Russian Armed Forces have not formed a strike force that would suggest that they will go on an offensive tomorrow,” he said as well as rejecting suggestions that Moscow will invade the day the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics end. “As of today, there is no such threat.”

In addition, NATO Secretary-General Stoltenberg indicated that no NATO combat troops will be sent to Ukraine although he would not back off its expansion plans along the Russian border.

While France and Spain have made minimal commitments, Germany, Europe’s largest and richest country has yet to embrace NATO’s military agenda of unspecified Russian “aggression” threatening to split the European Union. In part, as Europe’s main supplier of natural gas, Russia state-owned Nord Stream 2 project may now be seen also an agent for peace and reconciliation.

At the same time, Congressional Democrats who continue to lose their minds, remain eager to support the war machine with taxpayer funds will seek to fast-track $500 million worth of weapons to send to Ukraine.

Given the Biden Administration’s desperation, stay tuned for an easily transparent false flag within the Donbas of eastern Ukraine as Russian President Vladimir Putin knows how to play the long game of diplomatic dialogue.

Renee Parsons served on the ACLU’s Florida State Board of Directors and as president of the ACLU Treasure Coast Chapter. She has been an elected public official in Colorado, staff in the Office of the Colorado State Public Defender, an environmental lobbyist for Friends of the Earth and a staff member of the US House of Representatives in Washington DC. She can be found at [email protected]

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paul
paul
Feb 13, 2022 6:37 PM

Everybody thinks there’s going to be a war between Russia and Ukraine (except Russia and Ukraine.)

Marks
Marks
Feb 7, 2022 7:53 PM

Be careful with your typos. Zoran Milanović – NOT Milosovic (who was ex-Serb nationalist president)

paul
paul
Feb 7, 2022 2:00 PM

Putin is constantly scheming and plotting to invade Latvia and Estonia.
He plans to seize the Latvian peat bogs and the Estonian lap dancing bars.
Liz Truss and Ben Wallace must do something about this now!
Save the peat bogs!!
Throw a ring of steel around the lap dancing bars!!!
We must act now!!!!

paul
paul
Feb 5, 2022 11:28 PM

The population of Ukraine has fallen from 52 million in 1991 to about 35 million now. Most of the Ukies have voted with their feet, the men picking cabbages in Poland and the women working as Natasha prostitutes in every country on the planet, the only thing Ukraine produces that the EU wants. Old Vlad just has to bide his time and tell the last Ukie leaving the place to turn off the lights. Then he can just walk in and seize his great prize, complete with 15 clapped out nuclear power stations that haven’t seen a scrap of maintenance for the past 20 years about to go up with a bang

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 6, 2022 7:58 AM
Reply to  paul

Obviously, you have not been reading Putin’s statements.

paul
paul
Feb 6, 2022 3:15 PM
Reply to  mgeo

No, just economic and demographic studies of Ukraine over the past 30 years.
At independence, Ukraine was the most prosperous and highly developed part of the Soviet Union with a population of 52 million. It had advanced industries and an educated and highly skilled work force. Oil. coal, steel, metallurgy, chemicals, aircraft, motor vehicles, shipbuilding, turbines, agricultural machinery, engineering, machine tools, armaments, missiles, space craft. Every helicopter engine used in the Soviet Union and all its worldwide export customers was made there.
By 2010, after 20 years of non stop looting by oligarch kleptocrats and Wall Street parasites, all this had gone. The number of machine building enterprises had fallen from 1,000 to 3 hanging on by their fingertips. Alcohol, drugs, prostitution, endemic organised crime, mass unemployment, poverty. The average income per head was slightly above Syria and slightly below Egypt, a failed state. Current income perhead about $4,000, less than Jordan. A veritable s***hole. The population had fallen to 38 million, with another 7.5 million scratching a living working abroad.
That was before Maidan. Since then, Crimea and the Donbas have been lost, with around another 5 million people. So the population has fallen by around 35% since 1991.
The only future Ukraine has is as an impoverished, depopulated backwater, a playground for foreign agribusiness (Monsanto), extractive industries (Joe Biden’s son), and if they are lucky, some sweatshop type manufacturing. The same pattern as the Baltic States.
Who in their right mind would want to take that on?

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Feb 5, 2022 7:07 PM

Except for very brief periods when it suited our geopolitical aims Russia has always been “the enemy”. Back in the 19th and early 20th century Tsar Nicholas 2 was derided as “The Bad Boy of Europe” with the British concerned that they’d reach India through what was known then as the North West Frontier (and today as Afghanistan). They got into our good graces only because Germany became the bete noir and Russia was enrolled to help surround and contain the German Empire.

The truth is that the Russians aren’t going anywhere. They have a huge country with a relatively small population. Their main concern is strategic — having been persistently invaded over a centuries they would prefer a buffer zone of neutral countries between them and any potential aggressor. (If you think that NATO is “purely defensive” then you’re either young or you haven’t been paying attention.) Ukraine itself is a bit like Canada to the US; it shares a very long, non-strategic border with significant population exchange and cultural roots on both sides. Just as arming Canada against the US would be pointless arming Ukraine against Russia is also pointless. It also opens old wounds. Much of this area was subject to German invasion and occupation in WW2 with devastating effects on the local people, some of whom are still alive to remember. (Remember, too, that the invasion wasn’t purely Germany, it included forces from other EU countries including Italy and Spain.)

Ukraine aside Russia has been isolated and sanctioned for so long that the country has learned to manage under these regimes. It seems to be doing OK, at least as prosperous as any other part of Eastern Europe and possibly more so. It shares many interests with China so its natural that there will be strong trading links between the countries (especially as China can supply most of what ‘the West’ seeks to deny them — and they don’t need SWIFT to pay them). These countries will continue on their course, continually annoying us by refusing to be vassals, just doing their thing. Meanwhile we in the west waste more and more resources countering them — we in the US aren’t interested in addressing fundamental problems with industry but we’re all for passing “Countering XXXX Influence Acts”, laws that have little effect because there’s nothing to pay for them with (we effectively have to impoverish our populations to pay for war preparations — the old “Guns before Butter” thing).

les online
les online
Feb 7, 2022 3:46 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

There’s a never ending WW2 documentary series on one of the local TV channels. Mostly about the German Nasties – of course. One recent episode mentioned that Hungarian and other national forces took part in the invasion of Russia…Shocking, but only because such details have never before been aired…
There were Frenchies who also fought on the Nazi side. One group ,SS Charlemagne (16,000), actively defended Berlin, and Hitler’ Bunker, during the war’s last days.
This hasnt yet been mentioned in the series.. Maybe considered still too politically sensitive ?

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 5, 2022 6:19 PM

Another geopolitical psychological operation to prop up the racketeering scam where “the war machine with taxpayer funds will seek to fast-track $500 million worth of weapons to send to Ukraine.”
 
There’s function stacking and options within every psyop.  Other potential “narratives” this psychological operation support include an orchestrated or fabricated breakdown of relations between the two faux opposing blocs – Russia and the US leading to 1) a faux cyber pandemic or cyber hack attack, or 2) a limited hot war or 3) a global stock market collapse, or 4) a global trade collapse and/or dispute, or 5) a take down [inside job] of the banking system, 6) which could lead to a global mortgage crises, and/or 7) a central bank global digital currency. 

Even if nothing substantial eventuates from this psyop yet, it still serves to prop up the 8) nation state scam, and hide the fact that 9) all countries are incorporated entities, owned by the banking cartel cryptocracy, with 10) fictional borders, but 11) controlled through the UN, IMF and BIS. 

The Russia-Ukraine drama keeps the public uninformed, distracted, fearful and confused. 

“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”  William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987

Lysias
Lysias
Feb 5, 2022 4:12 PM

Bloomberg News jumped the gun and inaccurately reported this morning that Russia was invading Ukraine.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Feb 5, 2022 2:21 PM

Isn’t international trade a wonderful method? Everyone getting what they want from someone they don’t know or give a damn about. Let’s just embrace the wonder of Maritime commerce, and invest in the hopeless future of the corporate marketplace…

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 6, 2022 8:01 AM

I am pleased that the covid scam has exposed the insanity of globalism.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 6, 2022 8:32 AM
Reply to  mgeo

As well as the super-scam of insurance.

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Feb 5, 2022 1:28 PM

Russia has surpassed Mexico as a supplier of oil to the US. I assume this fact may also need reminding in the mainstream media and commentators. Perhaps Mr.Biden knows this all too well.

Mr.Putin is basically playing a waiting game, its like when your 90 year old mother or father are in the ICU and its not going too well…. for the US that is.

America had its chance at fixing everything that was wrong – well a majority of it, but it pissed it away. Mr.Trump was the key however many could not get past the fluff and puff not to mention DC was a pretty deep swamp to drain.

Nevertheless, we need to be discussing the waiting game here. And its going to be painful. The devaluation of the US dollar is a given, 25 points to say the least. When this happens, not if, it will stoke UK, Canada, Australia (what ever is left of it now) and NZ.

Mr. Johnson may be able to do something but the rest are governed by degenerates that will amount to nothing, only their post modernist agendas to blame.

EU, like it or hate it, will survive as its already begun the alignment with its European partner , Russia, who in turn has its funding partner secure …China. Even some EU countries who do not have the political savviness of Germany and France, have perhaps shown their cards a bit in their direct deals with China and Russia. Its okay, at least they are going to survive the intermediate change in world dynamics.

Even poor Canada is struggling to set up the PC party under Pierre Poilivre who will no doubt be the next PM with a majority assuming the degenerate Mr.Singh can find his way to supporting a vote of no confidence and bring down the supply teacher once and for all. Yes even Canada is trying to align itself, yet I fear a little too late for that as economic cancer has already spread too far and vital organs are shutting down.

So yes Ukraine is a distraction for those that need one because for the most part they have no clue to what’s really about to happen.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 6, 2022 8:05 AM
Reply to  Berlin Beerman

America had its chance at fixing everything
Spoken like a true believer in capitalism.

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Feb 9, 2022 3:26 AM
Reply to  mgeo

I can see your still having issues with that word Trump. Lets put it another way shall we… ” lets make Canada great again” there, better?

fame
fame
Feb 5, 2022 12:35 PM

More analysis from last weeks session of the Coronavirus Investigative Committee speaking with Russian resident and journalist/author Thomas Röper and Alex Thomson of UK Column.
https://odysee.com/@Corona-Investigative-Committee:5/Thomas-Alex-session-89-en:3

Davemass
Davemass
Feb 5, 2022 12:02 PM

Don’t forget US removed missiles from Turkey in 62.
Maybe not equal gestures, but still…

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Feb 5, 2022 6:22 PM
Reply to  Davemass

Yes that was part of an agreement between Kennedy and Nikita Khrushchev. Diplomacy worked preventing a major conflagration. The US withdrew their missiles from Turkey while the Soviet Union did the same in Cuba. The corrupt war mongering US media rarely shares this information.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 6, 2022 8:10 AM
Reply to  Davemass

Making concessions it intends to renege on is characteristic of capitalism. Karl Marx said it in 1867, and Theodore Kaczynski in 1995.

Hanna
Hanna
Feb 5, 2022 11:15 AM

God bless you, Renee Parsons, for this excellent article. I applaud your honesty and bravery. As a UK citizen I despair at the systematic evil media war propaganda against Russia, am very scared for the long-suffering people of Donbas, and am praying that the West will reverse the catastrophic course it is taking before it is too late.

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Feb 5, 2022 9:58 AM

“By refusing to accept NATO membership which would have put a vast array of military missiles and weapons within spitting distance of mainland Russia, across the Kerch Strait to the Russian border, Yanukovych’s presidency was doomed”.

It would have been interesting to see what would have happened had that scenario unfolded. Because whereas Crimea was technically part of Ukraine, Sevastopol never was. Legally, it always remained an integral part of Russia – rather like Kaliningrad but actually more firmly part of Russia.

A NATO invasion of Crimea would have meant a second Crimean War, but this time Russia would have defended its great naval base with all the force at its command. A glance at the map shows that the attackers would have been at a great disadvantage.

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 5, 2022 9:46 AM

“NATO Secretary-General Stoltenberg”.

Stoltenberg was of course PM of Norway at the time of the Breivik “attack”. I don’t particularly like or trust Ole Dammegard but his ‘When Terror Struck Norway’ showed that had false flag written all over it.

Breivik was the poster boy for the threat of “neo-nazis”. A board in the 1978 film ‘The Boys from Brazil’ shows children seeded from Hitler and one happens to be called Breivik.

grr
grr
Feb 5, 2022 10:33 AM
Reply to  Edwige

And one of heroes was Little Johnny Howard, the war criminal Unflushable Turd.

ity
ity
Feb 5, 2022 9:35 AM

We’ve been primed to expect a Russian false flag operation over the last few days, ever since the media started loudly proclaiming that this is to be expected. But the source of this rumour is non other than the American security services, who provide absolutely no evidence for an upcoming Russian false flag, and pretty much admit that their ‘intelligence’ is no more than a ‘feeling’.

Any false flag operations in the near future will most probably be coming from the USA and allies, and the central reason for the Americans talking up a Russian false flag in the media is an attempt to deflect from future American led false flags.

It all looks very childish, but this is the simple plan. If/when the Russians now accuse the Americans of a false flag operation, then the Americans can just sit back knowing that they made the accusations first.

Johnny Conspiranoid
Johnny Conspiranoid
Feb 5, 2022 8:23 AM

“In protecting US sovereignty, JFK was willing to risk world peace to have those foreign missiles removed.”

The missiles in Cuba were removed after the US removed its missiles from Turkey, which is what the argument was abput. JFK didn’t face down the USSR, he agreed to their demands.

grr
grr
Feb 5, 2022 9:09 AM

Exactly. The USSR missiles in Cuba were a response to the US missiles in Turkey.
And now to the present; Russia doesn’t need to place missiles anywhere near Nth America as with their new missiles and delivery systems they can obliterate the Zionist controlled continent from thousands of kilometres away.

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Feb 5, 2022 1:36 PM

yes but American history is such a bore so why not let the author have her peace of mind that JFK was a great man of nothing. That degenerate is all they really had.

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 5, 2022 7:42 AM

Surely the US is the master of ‘the long game’
Long wars.
Long, long military build up.
Long, long, long history of political interference.
Long, long, long, long and tall, tall tales of the ‘enemies’ of the US.
C’mon, they ARE the world champions. By a long shot. Or is that shots?

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Feb 5, 2022 7:21 AM

One does have to ask the simple question as to why Geoffrey Pyatt is still afforded legal protection against the crimes committed in overthrowing the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014.

Diplomats are guests in foreign lands, seeking to make the lives of citizens of their country of origin easier when they are in that country, as well as to promote bilateral partnerships, trade, cultural exchanges etc.

They are not there to be members of the CIA.

Pyatt should be extradited to The Hague to face war crimes and should not be afforded legal due process as he had contempt for democratic will via the ballot box in Ukraine. He should be forced to defend himself without the help of legal professionals and should be housed in a prison-like cell similar to Julian Assange whilst awaiting trial.

Of course, if the US would rather that professional assassins had Pyatt bumped off, that is something they should tell the world about.

What is totally unacceptable is considering Pyatt to be a law-abiding American worthy of State protection.

NickM
NickM
Feb 5, 2022 6:42 AM

“China and Russia agreed to closely coordinate our actions in the international arena, countering attempts to establish 𝙝𝙤𝙗𝙗𝙮 𝙘𝙡𝙪𝙗𝙨 that create dividing lines in international affairs.”

Hobby clubs? I suppose that’s what they look like when viewed by the two great Eurasian powers. Nevertheless, NATZO did not look like a hobby club when it went up against Serbia (population 7 million) and Libya (pop.7M); its performance was formidable. Likewise the U$, UK and 20 other countries Coalition of the Willing did not look like a hobby club when it shocked and awed Iraq (pop.30M).

China and Russia are just spoilsports — the big bullies!

Kalen
Kalen
Feb 5, 2022 5:45 AM

Unfavorable EU deal”

that was huge understatement. In fact EU deal was impossible as it meant collapse of Ukrainian industrial economy and million additionally unemployed especially in Donbas that was 80% dependent of exports and imports from Russia. As Yanukovitch openly stated accepting EU deal that requires Ukraine leaving customs Union, abandoning heavily subsidized by Russia free trade and passport free travel between Russia and Ukraine reduce depending on cheap heavily subsidized health Russia and that would mean imminent disaster.

And that was the EU aim to force Yanukovitch presiding over into deeper depression inducing friendly to EU regime change. As EU failed in December 2013 (genuine Maidan protests were over) US had plan B “fuck EU” as Nuland stated to use their control of Ukrainian security forces to orchestrate a coup. Overnight, never impeached President of Ukraine has been deserted by its personal security unit directly under his own constitutional command and fled with with family with two presidential body guards only to be hunted by SBU special service units. As all border crossing were ordered to detain Yanukovitch. Putin sent a helicopter to pick him up in Kharkov area.

Most of Eastern Ukraine legal local authorities rejected coup as illegal and demanded legal process to be followed and change of government via new elections and if refused they demanded federalization of Ukraine (these were those initially called separatists), autonomy for Donbas and referendum based independence for Crimea as it was already autonomous region of Ukraine. The response from Kiev putsch leaders was declare on those legal authorities as terrorists and campaign of violence, arrests and intimidation of legally elected local officials in the East like for example in Kharkov in March 2014 where local government was dismantled by UkroNazi gangs, elected official intimidated, beaten or arrested. Donetsk and Lugansk elected authorities after Kharkov events asked citizenry for help in forming unarmed militia (later with clubs and hunting rifles) to defend government buildings from Nazi Gangs to allow legal governments to function.

NickM
NickM
Feb 5, 2022 2:34 PM
Reply to  Kalen

Thanks for reminding us what really happened. Excellent summary: short and factual with telling detail.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Feb 5, 2022 5:44 AM

What pisses me off is the MORONS who continually invent ways to blame The Russians, or The Chinese for imposing Tyrants on other countries.( Morons is Too nice a word to describe the morons).
It’s not only racist but it’s a put down of our home grown would-be dictators. They dont need to take directions from some foreigners, or impose a foreign model of tyranny.
We Australians raise our own, nurture them, vote for them, and willingly march off to the slaughterhouses called ‘wars’ when told to do so by them.. So show us SOME respect.
and stop claiming we’ve been duped !

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Feb 5, 2022 1:45 PM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Russia was a complicated country, which was reduced to a wasteland under the Soviet regime. It took, for a lack of a better word, a dictator albeit a wonder day version of one, to nurture its industry and protect its natural resources in order for Modern Day Russia to survive and build something for its citizens. its really that simple. Most of the so called oligarchs fled to Israel or London ( the City of) from where they sit and complain about Mr.Putin doing this and that when they themselves where the robbers and bandits. I think Australians can relate to Indians and cowboys no?

Its very similar to what’s going on in Australia at the moment so I am afraid you’ve all been “duped” again. What you all need in my humble opinion is a damn good dictator who can get you back to the table rather than fucking around and wasting time hiding behind the pandemic fiasco.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Feb 5, 2022 4:51 AM

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les online
les online
Feb 5, 2022 1:53 AM

The thing about Comrade Putin that bothers me – so many claim to be able to read his mind. Well, i think mind-reading is mumbo-jumbo. I much prefer Dr Freud’s scientific notion of ‘projection’. Mind readers think that what they think is what Comrade Putin thinks. Delusional…
And not forgetting that it was the placing on USA missiles in Turkey, aimed across the Black Sea at Comrade Khrushchev’s Summer dacha that precipitated the USSRs Cuban missile build-up. JFK didnt like USSR missiles in America’s backyard, so agreed to remove US missiles from Turkey…

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Feb 5, 2022 1:26 AM

This is less about Russia and more about the US trying to assert dominance over West European rivals, particularly Germany, via NATO. The big reason NATO was formed in 1949 was not “Soviet aggression,” the Soviet regime was repressive but did not gain any European territory or domination over European nations beyond what it had already achieved by the end of WWII, was not in shape to do so given war destruction. NATO was formed to ensure US domination of Europe and slow down if not prevent the emergence of a reconstructed German capital as a global rival. Didn’t work for more than a few decades. This created crisis also enables the shifting of the media narrative away from focusing totally on the pandemic as interest in that reality show is fading.

Platov
Platov
Feb 5, 2022 4:22 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

The relationship between the U.S. and Germany has evolved into that of an occupying foreign power and a vassal state which has become the dominant economic power in Europe, partly because it did not have to spend enormous amounts of money on the military. The Germans realized that they did not have to be an empire in order to be the dominant country in Western Europe, given that economic power easily translates into political and diplomatic power. The big question now is how much longer Germany will be subservient to an empire which is in obvious decline and in danger of political fragmentation and economic collapse.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Feb 5, 2022 7:38 AM
Reply to  Platov

”The relationship between the U.S. and Germany has evolved into that of an occupying foreign power and a vassal state which has become the dominant economic power in Europe …”

It has always been thus, way back into 1945. Europe as a whole is an occupied zone. Occupied militarily, economically, politically and culturally. European states are neither sovereign nor democratic. If the European elites are happy with this arrangement , then they deserve to be treated as such.

Platov
Platov
Feb 5, 2022 7:55 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

True but my point is that Germany has evolved into “…the dominant economic power in Europe,” so no longer needs to be a “vassal state” to the U.S.

Jel
Jel
Feb 5, 2022 9:18 AM
Reply to  Platov

We Germans are deeply hurt that the Russians left us 30 years ago, now being helpless prey to the evil Empire.

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Feb 5, 2022 1:56 PM
Reply to  Jel

I think it was the Soviets that left you. The Russians will now provide the fuel you need for the next 30 years of your existence.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 5, 2022 7:55 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

The post-war generation of Germans woke up to the fact that they were a colony, leading to some progress: the Wall fell. However, US intrigue managed to keep emasculated or corrupt German politicians in power. Despite their economic power, most of Europe is suffering from high fuel prices because of the dogma that Russia is a threat.

NickM
NickM
Feb 5, 2022 8:12 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Yes, German quislings are quite prepared to delay NS2 until Germany freezes over. However, I detect the beginnings of dissatisfaction with this prospect by some commentators on DW.

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 5, 2022 9:33 AM
Reply to  NickM

It’s not an accident that Germany and Austria stand out as exceptions to the general retreat from convid.

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Feb 5, 2022 1:53 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

EU nations need an “excuse” to abolish NATO. It costs them dearly and its not necessary in the world that is emerging.

Plain and simple. Not to mention they also need to get NordStream 2 running before the fall of 2022.

Kika
Kika
Feb 5, 2022 10:24 PM
Reply to  Berlin Beerman

N A T O North Atlantic Terrorist Organisation

Roger Lewis
Roger Lewis
Feb 5, 2022 1:06 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
An excellent Talk from 2015 by John Meirshiemer.
And a very well argued paper from 2019 in the broader question of
Uni polar hegemony and the emerging Multipolar order.
Bound to Fail: The Rise and Fall of the Liberal International OrderAuthor: John J. Mearsheimer | Spring 2019
Summary”The liberal international order that was established after the Cold War and led by the United States was destined to collapse because of its fundamental flaws. Liberal excesses provoked a powerful nationalist backlash, rendering the liberal order a failed enterprise with no future. In the emerging multipolar world, there will be a realist order to manage the world economy, and Chinese-led and U.S.-led bounded orders that will help the two great powers to prosecute their security competition.”

  Failing Lies, #Man Made Climate Change #The 2019/2020 Flu season ” Plandemic” , The Lies Based International Order , Stuttering towards Oblivion. Ours or Theirs?

Dosamuno
Dosamuno
Feb 5, 2022 12:36 AM

“The Empire would love to rip Ukraine from Moscow’s bosom, evict the Russian Black Sea Fleet, and establish a US military and/or NATO presence on Russia’s border. Kiev’s membership of the European Union would then not be far off; after which the country could embrace the joys of neoconservatism, receiving the benefits of the standard privatization-deregulation-austerity package and join Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain as an impoverished orphan of the family; but perhaps no price is too great to pay to for being part of glorious Europe and the West!” 
― William Blum, America’s Deadliest Export

Roger Lewis
Roger Lewis
Feb 5, 2022 1:08 AM
Reply to  Dosamuno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4An
excellent Talk from 2015 by John Meirshiemer.And a very well argued paper from 2019 in the broader question ofUni polar hegemony and the emerging Multipolar order.Bound to Fail: The Rise and Fall of the Liberal International OrderAuthor: John J. Mearsheimer | Spring 2019Summary”The liberal international order that was established after the Cold War and led by the United States was destined to collapse because of its fundamental flaws. Liberal excesses provoked a powerful nationalist backlash, rendering the liberal order a failed enterprise with no future. In the emerging multipolar world, there will be a realist order to manage the world economy, and Chinese-led and U.S.-led bounded orders that will help the two great powers to prosecute their security competition.”
Failing Lies, #Man Made Climate Change #The 2019/2020 Flu season ” Plandemic” , The Lies Based International Order , Stuttering towards Oblivion. Ours or Theirs?

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 5, 2022 9:39 AM
Reply to  Dosamuno

The Empire would also love to maintain Russia as a plausible enemy, the Eurasia to their Oceania. Especially at this time when “right-wing” Americans are the audience they’ve most lost and “Russia” is the button they used to be able to press to bring them into line.

The main enemy is always their own populations, not other Powers.

les online
les online
Feb 5, 2022 10:14 PM
Reply to  Edwige

How true. Australia is in national election campaign mode and the politician in charge Smug Mug Morrison is trailing in the polls. A Saturday press article has him weak on every issue except China Bashing. and that really goes down well with the home audience. The threat of a Yellow Peril Invasion has always been a big vote catcher in this Great Southern Land…

S Cooper
S Cooper
Feb 5, 2022 12:17 AM

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“In the words of Smedley Butler. War is a Racket. To Hell with War!”

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Feb 4, 2022 11:27 PM

‘A popular gambit…’

See OffG has quickly switched to a new topic, on the eve of a ‘Freedom Convoy’ here in UK, without a mention, huh.

https://thewhiterose.uk/events/

S Cooper
S Cooper
Feb 5, 2022 12:26 AM

FYI

Videos of actions or events may also be hosted here.

https://www.youtube.com/c/RevolutionInTheStreets/videos?app=desktop

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Feb 5, 2022 12:46 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Thanks, will ‘log on’ tomorrow ! Utube will host gov. dissent okay, so long as it is swamped by nonsense.

Nothing to do with the issue the TPTB are doing everything they can to discredit though. Where we all live.

ZigZagWanderer
ZigZagWanderer
Feb 5, 2022 1:00 AM

That’s a really dumb comment .. if you don’t mind me saying Cappy .

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Feb 5, 2022 1:38 AM
Reply to  ZigZagWanderer

I’m the Captain here, and you will adhere to my commands !

100 press-ups, now !

And keep yer back level !

Name
Name
Feb 4, 2022 10:34 PM

Haven’t followed the Ukraine narrative but if the S really HTF and the US picks a fight with Russia … and the Russians mop the floor with the US tranny military … it would be wonderful to hear Russian armored vehicles rolling down our street announcing over loudspeakers, “We have defeated the US gov, you are now free”

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Feb 5, 2022 1:27 AM
Reply to  Name

Putin is really not our friend either. Eurasia vs Oceania vs Eastasia.

Jel
Jel
Feb 5, 2022 9:54 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

That ist so US think :))

Putin ist a very religious man, a true believer in Christ and would have Peace on Earth if you let him.

No kidding.

wardropper
wardropper
Feb 5, 2022 1:15 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

We’re not even looking for ‘friends’ in politics.
I’d settle for a world leader who was competent. He doesn’t need to be my chum.

Putin is at least competent. Just look what he has had to put up with…
Trumps, Bidens, Obamas, Johnsons, all calmly flipped aside, as they damn well should be.
Their motto goes something like, “War on Earth, and Ill-will towards all men (Oh, and let’s make America great again…)”

Jojo
Jojo
Feb 5, 2022 1:42 AM
Reply to  Name

What an idiot.

grr
grr
Feb 5, 2022 9:16 AM
Reply to  Jojo

Why? Are you happy with the totalitarian Zionist rule over your life?

NickM
NickM
Feb 5, 2022 7:37 AM
Reply to  Name

“We have defeated the US gov, you are now free”

Nice idea, Name, but that’s not Putin’s style. He has helped other countries to free themselves — but only if this was in Russia’s interest, and only if they showed they are made of the right stuff by helping themselves first; as in Syria, Crimea, Belarus, Venezuela, Afghanistan and Kazakhstan. When Kiev grows tired of living on U$ noodle cookies and other junk food, Mother Russia will be there to welcome the prodigal with some nourishing home cooking.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Feb 5, 2022 10:19 PM
Reply to  NickM

Russia is the world’s biggest producer of organically-groan foods.
None of that “You want glyphosate with that, ma’am ?” – not that you have a choice anywhere else…