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		By: Ronald		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-502868</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thou shalt put no other gods before me.
To marry in the eyes of the lord one must first register with a god put before God.
Such a marriage goes unseen by God. So it seems to me.
Most all religions and most all the religious, and most all the atheists serve the same god- the state.
He who made it, owns it. He who owns it maketh the rules.
Who made it? God?
Who owns it? God?
Who maketh the rules? God?
Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar. 
Caesar made nothing, owns nothing, rules over nothing.
Unless we think otherwise.
To come under God is to come out from under the state.
Imo...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thou shalt put no other gods before me.<br />
To marry in the eyes of the lord one must first register with a god put before God.<br />
Such a marriage goes unseen by God. So it seems to me.<br />
Most all religions and most all the religious, and most all the atheists serve the same god- the state.<br />
He who made it, owns it. He who owns it maketh the rules.<br />
Who made it? God?<br />
Who owns it? God?<br />
Who maketh the rules? God?<br />
Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar.<br />
Caesar made nothing, owns nothing, rules over nothing.<br />
Unless we think otherwise.<br />
To come under God is to come out from under the state.<br />
Imo&#8230;</p>
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		By: Benny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 20:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This author, while coming across as quasi-Christian, is actually doing more harm to the cause of Christ than an avowed atheist. By denigrating the authority of the inerrant Word of God, he lifts up the totally unreliable judgement of man. Foolishness! An example: the stoning of people for gathering firewood on the Sabbath. These were Israelites who were under a Theocracy, that has since been dissolved as a result of the Israelites’ rejection of God as their King by requesting a human one. Saul first filled that role. God makes no mistakes. There is a reason for everything He does. The sacredness and binding claims of the Law of God is something few Christians realize today because of sentiments similar to the ones expressed here that have been a part of fallen Christendom for ages now. Take note:  those who reject the law of God as supreme in their lives will also experience death, only it will be permanent death, which the Bible refers to as the “second death” which is executed in the fires of hell. (I’m not referring to the falsely held belief that hell is a place that is burning now where people go after death who are lost. I’m referring to the hell of the Bible which is an event that is yet future and it’s consequences eternal.) Caution: be careful how you handle the Word of God brother. “The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This author, while coming across as quasi-Christian, is actually doing more harm to the cause of Christ than an avowed atheist. By denigrating the authority of the inerrant Word of God, he lifts up the totally unreliable judgement of man. Foolishness! An example: the stoning of people for gathering firewood on the Sabbath. These were Israelites who were under a Theocracy, that has since been dissolved as a result of the Israelites’ rejection of God as their King by requesting a human one. Saul first filled that role. God makes no mistakes. There is a reason for everything He does. The sacredness and binding claims of the Law of God is something few Christians realize today because of sentiments similar to the ones expressed here that have been a part of fallen Christendom for ages now. Take note:  those who reject the law of God as supreme in their lives will also experience death, only it will be permanent death, which the Bible refers to as the “second death” which is executed in the fires of hell. (I’m not referring to the falsely held belief that hell is a place that is burning now where people go after death who are lost. I’m referring to the hell of the Bible which is an event that is yet future and it’s consequences eternal.) Caution: be careful how you handle the Word of God brother. “The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.”</p>
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		By: cockoo_1		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-501334</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cockoo_1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 16:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was good. BTW The Artwork would upset some yanks &lt;span class=&quot;ql-emojiblot&quot; data-name=&quot;grinning&quot;&gt;﻿&lt;span contenteditable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;wpd-content-em wpdem-grinning&quot;&gt; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f600.png" alt="😀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;﻿&lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was good. BTW The Artwork would upset some yanks <span class="ql-emojiblot" data-name="grinning">﻿<span contenteditable="false"><span class="wpd-content-em wpdem-grinning"> 😀 </span></span>﻿</span></p>
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		By: fxgrube		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-501169</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fxgrube]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 18:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500948&quot;&gt;John Ervin&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely.  The commercialization of all that moves, of the whole cultural realm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500948">John Ervin</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely.  The commercialization of all that moves, of the whole cultural realm.</p>
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		By: John Ervin		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500953</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Ervin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 06:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500213&quot;&gt;Seansaighdeor&lt;/a&gt;.

Something seems odd and out of place. Though.

Pincer psyops by the right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500213">Seansaighdeor</a>.</p>
<p>Something seems odd and out of place. Though.</p>
<p>Pincer psyops by the right?</p>
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		By: John Ervin		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500952</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Ervin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 06:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500948&quot;&gt;John Ervin&lt;/a&gt;.

(The SMAUG reference is a classic Hobbit visual). 

Worse yet, there is much evidence that slowly they are trying to kill off the greatest aspects of art, and Art Spirit, to reify it simply for auctions, since Nazis hate the refinement of discernment such gifts and cultures bring. The skills to tell scheiße from Shinola, or if that&#039;s too dated an image, counterfeits from the real deal.

Age old Philistinism,gone nuclear in a nuclear age. Homogenization of the arts and music industry. All hat and no cowboy?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500948">John Ervin</a>.</p>
<p>(The SMAUG reference is a classic Hobbit visual). </p>
<p>Worse yet, there is much evidence that slowly they are trying to kill off the greatest aspects of art, and Art Spirit, to reify it simply for auctions, since Nazis hate the refinement of discernment such gifts and cultures bring. The skills to tell scheiße from Shinola, or if that&#8217;s too dated an image, counterfeits from the real deal.</p>
<p>Age old Philistinism,gone nuclear in a nuclear age. Homogenization of the arts and music industry. All hat and no cowboy?!</p>
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		By: John Ervin		</title>
		<link>https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500948</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Ervin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 06:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500185&quot;&gt;fxgrube&lt;/a&gt;.

Rich, Adrienne, famously refused the Medal of Arts offered her by Clinton, writing the White House scathingly, &quot;Art means nothing if it simply serves to decorate the dinner table of the power that holds it hostage.&quot;

Prophetic too, as philanthropists are tasking all the arts institutions they hold hostage now more and more to ramp up the murder of the Art Spirit in the USA. Classical music has been savaged for several decades now, clearly, under the guise of philanthropy. All the philistine phat cats want to do is commodify it. To commoditize artists. To &quot;own&quot; it, like the great worm SMAUG with his mountain lair of golden baubles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500185">fxgrube</a>.</p>
<p>Rich, Adrienne, famously refused the Medal of Arts offered her by Clinton, writing the White House scathingly, &#8220;Art means nothing if it simply serves to decorate the dinner table of the power that holds it hostage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Prophetic too, as philanthropists are tasking all the arts institutions they hold hostage now more and more to ramp up the murder of the Art Spirit in the USA. Classical music has been savaged for several decades now, clearly, under the guise of philanthropy. All the philistine phat cats want to do is commodify it. To commoditize artists. To &#8220;own&#8221; it, like the great worm SMAUG with his mountain lair of golden baubles.</p>
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		By: John Ervin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Ervin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 05:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500176&quot;&gt;mjh&lt;/a&gt;.

Not sure if discussing origins of the &quot;virus&quot; is not useful, but it diverts energy perhaps from the bigger problems of rights, probably.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500176">mjh</a>.</p>
<p>Not sure if discussing origins of the &#8220;virus&#8221; is not useful, but it diverts energy perhaps from the bigger problems of rights, probably.</p>
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		By: John Ervin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Ervin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 05:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500268&quot;&gt;Tom Larsen&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s interesting, I didn&#039;t know. Shortly after court rulings gave corporations received recognition as &quot;persons&quot; under the law, too.

I smell a lot of then-contemporary rats. Many corporate. Just as many, fascist (literally).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/17/eclipsed-the-church-the-state-have-overshadowed-real-christian-values/#comment-500268">Tom Larsen</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s interesting, I didn&#8217;t know. Shortly after court rulings gave corporations received recognition as &#8220;persons&#8221; under the law, too.</p>
<p>I smell a lot of then-contemporary rats. Many corporate. Just as many, fascist (literally).</p>
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