Conspirators for the Constitution: When Anti-Government Speech Becomes “Sedition”
John & Nisha Whitehead
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
attributed to George Orwell
Let’s be clear about one thing: seditious conspiracy isn’t a real crime to anyone but the U.S. government.
To be convicted of seditious conspiracy, the charge levied against Stewart Rhodes who was sentenced to 18 years in prison for being the driving force behind the January 6 Capitol riots, one doesn’t have to engage in violence against the government, vandalize government property, or even trespass on property that the government has declared off-limits to the general public.
To be convicted of seditious conspiracy, one need only foment a revolution.
This is not about whether Rhodes deserves such a hefty sentence.
This is about the long-term ramifications of empowering the government to wage war on individuals whose political ideas and expression challenge the government’s power, reveal the government’s corruption, expose the government’s lies, and encourage the citizenry to push back against the government’s many injustices.
This is about criminalizing political expression in thoughts, words and deeds.
This is about how the government has used the events of Jan. 6 in order to justify further power grabs and acquire more authoritarian emergency powers.
This was never about so-called threats to democracy.
In fact, the history of this nation is populated by individuals whose rhetoric was aimed at fomenting civil unrest and revolution.
Indeed, by the government’s own definition, America’s founders were seditious conspirators based on the heavily charged rhetoric they used to birth the nation.
Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Marquis De Lafayette, and John Adams would certainly have been charged for suggesting that Americans should not only take up arms but be prepared to protect their liberties and defend themselves against the government should it violate their rights.
“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms,” declared Jefferson. He also concluded that “the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
“It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government,” insisted Paine.
“When the government violates the people’s rights,” Lafayette warned, “insurrection is, for the people and for each portion of the people, the most sacred of the rights and the most indispensable of duties.”
Adams cautioned, “A settled plan to deprive the people of all the benefits, blessings and ends of the contract, to subvert the fundamentals of the constitution, to deprive them of all share in making and executing laws, will justify a revolution.”
Had America’s founders feared revolutionary words and ideas, there would have been no First Amendment, which protects the right to political expression, even if that expression is anti-government.
No matter what one’s political persuasion might be, every American has a First Amendment right to protest government programs or policies with which they might disagree.
The right to disagree with and speak out against the government is the quintessential freedom.
Every individual has a right to speak truth to power—and foment change—using every nonviolent means available.
Unfortunately, the government is increasingly losing its tolerance for anyone whose political views could be perceived as critical or “anti-government.”
All of us are in danger.
In recent years, the government has used the phrase “domestic terrorist” interchangeably with “anti-government,” “extremist” and “terrorist” to describe anyone who might fall somewhere on a very broad spectrum of viewpoints that could be considered “dangerous.”
The ramifications are so far-reaching as to render almost every American with an opinion about the government or who knows someone with an opinion about the government an extremist in word, deed, thought or by association.
You see, the government doesn’t care if you or someone you know has a legitimate grievance. It doesn’t care if your criticisms are well-founded. And it certainly doesn’t care if you have a First Amendment right to speak truth to power.
What the government cares about is whether what you’re thinking or speaking or sharing or consuming as information has the potential to challenge its stranglehold on power.
Why else would the FBI, CIA, NSA and other government agencies be investing in corporate surveillance technologies that can mine constitutionally protected speech on social media platforms such as Facebook, Twitter and Instagram?
Why else would the Biden Administration be likening those who share “false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories, and other forms of mis- dis- and mal-information” to terrorists?
Why else would the government be waging war against those who engage in thought crimes?
Get ready for the next phase of the government’s war on thought crimes and truth-tellers.
For years now, the government has used all of the weapons in its vast arsenal—surveillance, threat assessments, fusion centers, pre-crime programs, hate crime laws, militarized police, lockdowns, martial law, etc.—to target potential enemies of the state based on their ideologies, behaviors, affiliations and other characteristics that might be deemed suspicious or dangerous.
For instance, if you believe in and exercise your rights under the Constitution (namely, your right to speak freely, worship freely, associate with like-minded individuals who share your political views, criticize the government, own a weapon, demand a warrant before being questioned or searched, or any other activity viewed as potentially anti-government, racist, bigoted, anarchic or sovereign), you could be at the top of the government’s terrorism watch list.
Moreover, as a New York Times editorial warns, you may be an anti-government extremist (a.k.a. domestic terrorist) in the eyes of the police if you are afraid that the government is plotting to confiscate your firearms, if you believe the economy is about to collapse and the government will soon declare martial law, or if you display an unusual number of political and/or ideological bumper stickers on your car.
According to one FBI report, you might also be classified as a domestic terrorism threat if you espouse conspiracy theories, especially if you “attempt to explain events or circumstances as the result of a group of actors working in secret to benefit themselves at the expense of others” and are “usually at odds with official or prevailing explanations of events.”
In other words, if you dare to subscribe to any views that are contrary to the government’s, you may well be suspected of being a domestic terrorist and treated accordingly.
There’s a whole spectrum of behaviors ranging from thought crimes and hate speech to whistleblowing that qualifies for persecution (and prosecution) by the Deep State.
Simply liking or sharing this article on Facebook, retweeting it on Twitter, or merely reading it or any other articles related to government wrongdoing, surveillance, police misconduct or civil liberties might be enough to get you categorized as a particular kind of person with particular kinds of interests that reflect a particular kind of mindset that might just lead you to engage in a particular kinds of activities and, therefore, puts you in the crosshairs of a government investigation as a potential troublemaker a.k.a. domestic extremist.
Chances are, as the Washington Post reports, you have already been assigned a color-coded threat score—green, yellow or red—so police are forewarned about your potential inclination to be a troublemaker depending on whether you’ve had a career in the military, posted a comment perceived as threatening on Facebook, suffer from a particular medical condition, or know someone who knows someone who might have committed a crime.
In other words, you might already be flagged as potentially anti-government in a government database somewhere—Main Core, for example—that identifies and tracks individuals who aren’t inclined to march in lockstep to the police state’s dictates.
As The Intercept reported, the FBI, CIA, NSA and other government agencies have increasingly invested in corporate surveillance technologies that can mine constitutionally protected speech on social media platforms such as Facebook, Twitter and Instagram in order to identify potential extremists and predict who might engage in future acts of anti-government behavior.
Where many Americans go wrong is in naively assuming that you have to be doing something illegal or harmful in order to be flagged and targeted for some form of intervention or detention.
In fact, all you need to do these days to end up on a government watch list or be subjected to heightened scrutiny is use certain trigger words (like cloud, pork and pirates), surf the internet, communicate using a cell phone, limp or stutter, drive a car, stay at a hotel, attend a political rally, express yourself on social media, appear mentally ill, serve in the military, disagree with a law enforcement official, call in sick to work, purchase materials at a hardware store, take flying or boating lessons, appear suspicious, appear confused or nervous, fidget or whistle or smell bad, be seen in public waving a toy gun or anything remotely resembling a gun (such as a water nozzle or a remote control or a walking cane), stare at a police officer, question government authority, or appear to be pro-gun or pro-freedom.
And then at the other end of the spectrum there are those such as Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning, for example, who blow the whistle on government misconduct that is within the public’s right to know.
In true Orwellian fashion, the government would have us believe that it is Assange and Manning who are the real criminals for daring to expose the war machine’s seedy underbelly.
Since his April 2019 arrest, Assange has been locked up in a maximum-security British prison—in solitary confinement for up to 23 hours a day—pending extradition to the U.S., where if convicted, he could be sentenced to 175 years in prison.
This is how the police state deals with those who challenge its chokehold on power.
This is also why the government fears a citizenry that thinks for itself: because a citizenry that thinks for itself is a citizenry that is informed, engaged and prepared to hold the government accountable to abiding by the rule of law, which translates to government transparency and accountability.
After all, we’re citizens, not subjects.
For those who don’t fully understand the distinction between the two and why transparency is so vital to a healthy constitutional government, Manning explains it well:
When freedom of information and transparency are stifled, then bad decisions are often made and heartbreaking tragedies occur – too often on a breathtaking scale that can leave societies wondering: how did this happen? … I believe that when the public lacks even the most fundamental access to what its governments and militaries are doing in their names, then they cease to be involved in the act of citizenship. There is a bright distinction between citizens, who have rights and privileges protected by the state, and subjects, who are under the complete control and authority of the state.
This is why the First Amendment is so critical. It gives the citizenry the right to speak freely, protest peacefully, expose government wrongdoing, and criticize the government without fear of arrest, isolation or any of the other punishments that have been meted out to whistleblowers such as Edwards Snowden, Assange and Manning.
The challenge is holding the government accountable to obeying the law.
A little over 50 years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in United States v. Washington Post Co. to block the Nixon Administration’s attempts to use claims of national security to prevent The Washington Post and The New York Times from publishing secret Pentagon papers on how America went to war in Vietnam.
As Justice William O. Douglas remarked on the ruling, “The press was protected so that it could bare the secrets of government and inform the people. Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell.”
Fast forward to the present day, and we’re witnessing yet another showdown, this time between Assange and the Deep State, which pits the people’s right to know about government misconduct against the might of the military industrial complex.
Yet this isn’t merely about whether whistleblowers and journalists are part of a protected class under the Constitution. It’s a debate over how long “we the people” will remain a protected class under the Constitution.
Following the current trajectory, it won’t be long before anyone who believes in holding the government accountable is labeled an “extremist,” relegated to an underclass that doesn’t fit in, watched all the time, and rounded up when the government deems it necessary.
We’re almost at that point now.
Eventually, as I point out in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, we will all be seditious conspirators in the eyes of the government.
We would do better to be conspirators for the Constitution starting right now.
Originally published by the Rutherford Institute
Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His book Battlefield America: The War on the American People (SelectBooks, 2015) is available online at www.amazon.com. Whitehead can be contacted at [email protected]
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I very recently attended a Freedom peace rally in Kingston NY where John Whitehead spoke. Without doubt, he is a major authority on this subject. I just have to ask “where is the abuse of psychiatric analysis confined (if at all) and how does such a control agenda go so unnoticed (miraculously under mass psychosis) and undistinguished by such intelligentsia?
If so many people are anti-government, and every citizen is a domestic terrorist one way or another, why the government don’t resign instead of fighting against the citizenry, against the Nation and against the Constitution ?
They have bigger plans. Once the Governments we once knew and loathed do the dirty work for the globalists they will be gone and replaced by the all seeing AI, they hope.
Because they are sociopaths that crave the exercise of power.
They might not even really be human. Maybe a golem, or robot, or some other artificial biological entity.
History have proven 100s, if not 1000s, of times, that tyrants do not return power back to the people peacefully.
And that the people, once the limits of decency have been surpassed, will crush the power elites the way a big hand squashes an annoying gnat.
Hubris blinds.
Recent years and their events have demonstrated beyond question that neither the US or the U.K. governments are even faintly concerned about their citizens. Their only interest is in furthering the interests of their sponsors – this used to be called corruption. These governments have brazenly allowed big business interests, the demands of billionaires, the policies of the globalists to override the will and the interests of the people.
Hard to imagine that voting alone will purge the system.
The government is composed of people. Voting in people want liberty wd certainly be effective. However, the vote-count is currently not honest. It can be made so by counting the ballots publicly at the polling places & doing away w voting machines.
The manner of selection of candidates is also corrupt, as money often determines which candidates you ever get to hear of. This is also fixable. Each candidate should have to take detailed positions on issues & these should be laid out on the internet. In our modern age of communication there’s no reason why running for office should cost a fortune– or be so entirely devoid of accountability. It’s perfectly ludicrous to have campaigns of platitudes paid for by corporations which the courts say are “persons.”
We can change the tyrannical govt we’ve allowed to evolve, but it will take non-delegated effort to do it.
There were in British colonial America <=two different revolutions: both took place in the period between 1775 and 1778. The government formed as a result of each revolution was and is called “The United States of America”.
the date should be amended to read between 1775 and 1788. sorry about that.
where is the rest of my article?
every American has a First Amendment right to protest government programs or policies with which they might disagree. 1st amendment says the right is “to petition the government”, it does not say Americans have the right to protest (against) government programs or policies.. it says right to peacefully assemble..
This kind of misunderstanding is the basic problem in the populist propaganda about the U. S. Constitution <=the average governed American do not understand the meaning of the words in the U. S. Constitution.
There were in British colonial America <=two different revolutions: both took place in the period between 1775 and 1778. The government formed as a result of each revolution was and is called “The United States of America”.
The American Revolution was a revolt by the business and church interest in Colonial America. Its purpose was to deny British government any say in American business, law making and religious affairs. The British Corporate Empire used the British government to rule the British owned Colonies (America was one of the British Colonies). The guts of the American Revolutionary propaganda centered on free trade for Americans, government controlled by every day Americans, right of the people to practice whatever religious beliefs they wished, and right of Americans to speak and write without fear or consequence of reprisal from law, government or religion. Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness was meant to put the individual first and government 2nd in the order of things.
(to day we call these rights: the right of self-determination. This first government produced the Articles of Confederation of the United States of America. It was a democracy of states.
But no where in the 2nd revolution, which I call the counter revolution conducted by the British landed [land wealth by land grant], wealthy and business oriented British survivors of the American revolution against the right of all Americans to govern themselves. This 2nd revolution produced the Constitution of the United States of America 1778. This was a
So we have three documents, with night and day differences, stretching over 12 years:
[1] the declaration of Independence (July 4, 1776),
[2] the Articles of Confederation of the United States of America [November 15, 1777]and
[3] the Constitution of the United States of America [September 17, 1778, March 1, 1788;
each document represents the influence of three different groups of Americans.
The colonial objective expressed in the Declaration of Independence sought to emancipate Americans prosecution or regulation by, a foreign British Government.
British corporate empires maintained their economic dominance over colonial American economic enterprises by imposing on colonial Americans laws which the British government made. Naturally such laws favored the British over the colonial Americans.
The Articles of Confederation 1777] was designed to push British economic competition with American economic interest out of America. British corporations wanted the British government to rule America so the British could control and direct economic gain from the British corporate investments in the colonies (those in America).
The Constititution [1778] was designed to return political control over America back to the economic interest in America (the British land grant Aristocracy that survived the American war for Independence and big business owners in America].
Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Marquis De Lafayette, and John Adams would certainly have been charged for suggesting that Americans should not only take up arms but be prepared to protect their liberties and defend themselves against the government should it violate their rights.
America achieved its independence from the British Empire in 1778, but it returned control of America to the powerful residual British Interest in 1778. Much propaganda about the constitution exist everywhere. Often you see the words and promises found in the Declaration of Independence in propaganda supporting the constitution, but often such words or meanings or rights cannot be found in the constitution. .
No one promised that the words in the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights would stop tyranny. The ideals and form of government outlined in those documents have meaning to those that desire to not be ruled by a Crown or Dictator. We were explicitly warned that to keep our Representative Constitutional Republic, we would have to be vigilant. We the people have failed at vigilance.
We the people failing at vigilance is not a refutation of our form of government. or the founding documents. If anyone has a better idea for government, other than Anarchy, which I am not against, then share it with the world.
Until then, we still have free speech, mostly, and we are armed. We the People are the last defense against tyranny. The changing of the guards is neigh.
Be ready in a minute.
Protest is not by default violent, unless your bench mark is AntiFA (Anti First Amendment).
A protest can be a peaceful assembly. And to petition a grievance, is protest by another phrase.
People, mostly, understand the right to Free Expression. It is TPTB that don’t want people to exercise those rights.
Freedom of Religion and Trial by a Jury of Peers is mentioned in the Declaration many times because of the yoke of the English Crown. The very reason we have many amendments regarding fair and equal justice.
England had Admiralty Courts with no real trial, cruel and unusual punishment, usually being sent to BFE Canada to die in a prison camp. Not to mention laws prohibiting the manufacture of local goods, homes being raided, homes being commandeered by the military for housing, etc. etc. etc.
What exactly would Paine and Jefferson be charged with, and what exactly did they suggest that was “criminal”?
You suggesting that England retained control after the AWI isn’t accurate. England got their foot in the door again in 1791 when Alexander Hamilton created the first bank, modeled after the Bank of England (BoE), and invited Rothschild as the first member. That bank was shut down 20 years later in 1811. Rothschild was so mad he made the Crown start the war of 1812. England and the BoE didn’t retain the foot in the door until after the ACW. When national debt from the war was used as a pretext for incorporation, to bypass the Constitution and do business with the European Central Banks.
With America’s history the idea of Liberty should at least make the most mild patriot uncomfortable about recent events. But America like the UK is really a police state hiding behind the veneer of ‘democracy’.
The clampdown is just becoming more overt in the US.
The UK idea of Liberty and freedom is much more vague as the covid years demonstrate. The people have been lied to so much and the state so successful in its denial of truth the Police state can act much more openly – as witnessed by the arrests of peaceful demonstrators at KC3’s recent coronation.
Truth has to be sought after which takes time and effort, much easier to sit in front of the box. Then people have something to distract them and conversation not need be about tyranny of the state.
The PTB know dissidents are out there but they have decided now is the time to start targeting them. The internet has allowed a lot of truth to be spread – more then they realised hence the clampdown.
England is not a Democracy, it is a Parliamentary Monarch.
The USA is not a Democracy, it is a Representative Constitutional Republic.
Yes, both are corrupt to the core and run by tyrants in giant bureaucracies with costumes, badges and guns.
The very reason they are attempting to disarm Americans. The reason Commonwealth Nations are all disarmed or being disarmed.
Soon, you will need a licence and a serial number on your kitchen knives. They already do this in China.
England (UK) is a Constitutional Monarchy it has a constitution that this system no longer works if it ever truly did.
It has been replaced by Parliamentary dictatorship or really dictatorship through the party system because it is through that system that tyranny is able to work. That executive was able to push through all the covid restrictions without challenge as a result.
But the parties themselves are a front for the real rulers – the financial oligarchy. As evidenced by the removal of Truss.
America is a Constitutional Republic yes and people should be aware of those pushing ‘democracy’. This is often used by the ‘rulers’ to hide tyranny and is never questioned. The same happens here.
The American system also no longer works as covid demonstrated although they are armed I agree. The PTB will probably force some sort of split or flash point with that group being in the vanguard – that might the reason they are targeting Trump so openly now.
Sadly removal of arms in this country was a big step to rendering people powerless – wasn’t always that way though. Think its still there in the 1688 BOR.
Like I said, A Parliamentary Monarch. A monarch is a dictatorship. They just use the word King, instead of dictator. The law is dictated from their mouth because they are the law and above the law.
Agreed that the real power behind all nations is the Central Bank Cartel. In England that has been the Bank of England, that has been owned and controlled by the House of Rothschild since its creation in the 1640s.
Trump, LGBTQXYZ, Gun Control, Law Enforcement Violence, contrived racism, AntiFA, Anti-Semitism, etc. etc. etc., are all a pretext for igniting civil conflict.
The very reason our Founding Fathers made the First Amendment first, and the Second Amendment second. The inalienable right to bear arms is for the purpose of changing the government guards when the government become tyrannical. From that perspective, the experiment is still working.
My apologies I assumed you were English.
I have always preferred the American system but to be clear the Monarchy is not a dictatorship – that was essentially the reason for the English Civil War although I believe the reasons are probably deeper. Once Charles I lost his head that kind of power went with him.
From a constitutional pov the monarchy’s role is to act on ‘behalf’ of the people where the true sovereignty lies. Sovereignty is invested in the monarch only for this reason. But that has been usurped by the party system where parliament believes that it is ‘sovereign’ – constitutionally that is wrong. Its fait accompli for the monarch who gets to keep wealth and status – a Faustian bargain made with oligarchy.
The oligarchical powers (who resisted the Treaty of Westphalia) can be traced back to the formation of the nation state which was a threat to their hegemony – hence after the formation of the BOE (in 1694) and the coup by the Venetian financial oligarchy England began a series of wars with the French plunging itself in to debt – these were bankers wars.
Always have viewed the American Constitution as the greatest of documents although tinged with some questions as the Founding Fathers were Freemasons to a man.
In the end Rothschild managed to usurp those rights with the imposition of the FED through their agents on Jekyll Island same as was done here.
The US has at least has the examples of Lincoln, Hamilton and Jackson so should remove the FED and reinstitute a national bank to invests in the people – not fiat currencies. Sadly there is no such record in this country people have little understanding of their own history because they are deliberately lied to.
When you folks are ready, when you folks finally decide you’ve had enough and are prepared to fight, you will be promptly armed. Take care deciding on this step. It may be necessary, but it will be exceedingly painful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne_Prize
Recent report is that there are now more migrants in Geermany than there are Germans.
Where on the global map is ‘Geermany’ exactly?
It’s just east of the nether regions.
Don’t make typos Thom. You’ve played your “get out of jail free card”.
Its a clown show. A ritual. They look like dulls in a dull theater, a Bolshevik yuu is the star.
‘In recent years politicians have used the phrases “domestic terrorist”, interchangeably with “anti-government”,”extremist”, and “terrorist”….’
Like, Totally Orwellian: Nearly A Third Of GenZ Favors Government Surveillance Cameras In Every Household…
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/totally-orwellian-nearly-third-genz-favors-government-surveillance-cameras-every
Neighbourhood Watch on steroids, but at least little jimmy will know it’s best he keep his hands above the blankets at night…
Nearly A Third Of GenZ Favors..
It is easy to cook up such findings.
The flag is a shroud under which dead things live.
Hard to imagine why anyone would vote for a rod for their own back….and the back of their neighbor.
But they do….
Voting has nothing to do with it, I’m afraid…
“Why is Sweden multicultural?” is a full length documentary that highlights the transition from a homogenous Sweden to a multicultural one.
https://odysee.com/@QuantumRhino:9/Why-is-Sweden-multicultural–(2021):4
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/09/23/the-origins-of-swedish-multiculturalism/
“The most important representative of the assimilationist position was the ethnic Swede Michaёl Wächter…” (Devlin)
He must correct his article (and/or Eckehart his book), because Wächter was (like Schwarz) a “German” Jew https://de.zxc.wiki/wiki/Walter_W%C3%A4chter
(or google “Walter Wächter alias Michaël Wächter”).
Bolshevikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCri_Lina
https://www.docdroid.net/5YQv8PZ/juri-lina-under-the-sign-of-the-scorpion-2002-pdf
Since 9/11, I’ve been wondering when I was going to get pulled from an airplane boarding line due to being on some government watch list. That was the beginning of really believing in earnest that our government was lying and deceiving us, and I got vocal about it. I’ve been proud of every FB prison stint during the Covipocalypse, though saddened because I know deep down that nothing I post is reaching an audience and the people who most need to know what’s going on long ago “unfriended” me. It’s a pitiful time that we live in and oh, how far we have fallen.
Since the FBI were the driving force behind the Jan 6 Capitol riots, one would assume Stewart Rhodes is an FBI agent. Getting an 18-year sentence for following orders seems like a bit of a bum deal to me.
Yes and no. All “made men” in organized crime syndicates know that circumstances may dictate that they “take one for the team” in the form of a significant prison sentence.
This nominal draconian sentence is indeed harsh. But once the media-sustained hype and publicity die down, the higher-ups may arrange a favorable adjustment– until then, Rhodes will have to settle for clandestine “perks” during his incarceration.
But relief may be precluded if the harsh sentences issued to Rhodes and his fellow January 6th show-trial convicts become petrified into political dogma. Then, like the patsies in the Manson murders and RFK assassination, they will serve out their full sentences because no one in authority, especially Elected Misrepresentatives, will dare to express the least dissatisfaction with the status quo. 😠
IF Rhodes is a govt agent, would it be possible to verify his true fate following this conviction? Just because it is being publicized he got 18 years or whatever, can it actually be known if he will spend a day in the lockup as the story fades into the news-cycle rubbish bin? If he’s a Fed, maybe he gets a new identity and a beach house in Costa Rica instead. I’ve wondered this alot about other possible agents provocateur. How does one really know what happens and where they end up?
You’re right, Phil. We’ll never know. Never.
How hard would it be get a lifer with a close resemblance to fake his demise and take Rhodes time? Especially if the Rhodes regime is lighter than her own?
Citizens of the District of Colombia, although Wiki predictably calls this a conspiracy.
Persons & Citizens are legally-loaded terms that conveniently place Men & Women into the Commercial jurisdiction of the UCC.
To be clear, the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights, are documents that spell out where government power ends, not where it begins. No one promised that those documents would stop tyranny. No one promised that those documents are a panacea for all of humanity’s ills. All those documents do is spell out the contract between We the People and government, and establish the foundation for a Representative Constitutional Republic, that recognizes INALIENABLE rights that cannot be taken by any entity without due process.
If anyone out there thinks they have a better form of government, or idea for government, then share it. The only thing better for me is Anarchy. However until we live in a world where the substantial majority of people are moral, of good character, and truly virtuous, then government is the next best solution.
The state of affairs in the US Government is not due to the form of government being a failed experiment. It is due to the fact that We the People have not been vigilant, and have not held the guards of government accountable for their crimes and corruption. We were explicitly warned by our Founding Fathers that we would have to be vigilant to keep our Republic. Because we have failed at this requirement, we now face the ultimate consequence.
We will all have to make a choice. Risk life and property to fight for freedom and liberty. Else continue to comply with tyrannical government and live on your knees sucking on government peter.
I’ve made my choice. What say you?
Real Monarchy, not that phony constitutional garbage, based on customs is the best kind of governnent. You’d be surprised how little power “absolute” monarchs had. Couldn’t even raise taxes on a town without the say so of the town’s council. But they had the authority to stuff that needed to be done.
That you prefer to be a peasant or a subject, under the yoke of a crown, versus a free person, says more about you, than anyone else ever could.
Your Social Credit Score has gone up.
Congratulations!
You maybe right, Thomas.
What a shame this viable form of government was wasted on such unworthy humans.
Especially with so many more worthy people around the world. In fact, the USofAs had the most worthy of people in their midst. They preferred to genocide them.
But don’t get me wrong, I like fairy tales and I believe in the Easter Bunny.
Romanticised dissidents like Mr Mandela , Assange ,and Manning among many others are like Che , epic losers , fall guys , and useful idiots while real dissidents like Ho Chi Minh and the many thousands of dead western radicals who predicted the current state of affairs’ and took action are written out of history . To die on one’s feet is better than being executed on one’s knees is no longer a popular sentiment ? Manning a keyboard and appealing to some mythical higher authority , is not a form of action ?
I’ll agree that ‘seditious conspiracy’ sounds a tad contrived but the events that led to the charges were real enough. Personally, I the people convicted of this are more fantasists, the real seditious conspiracy not being stockpiling arms in a hotel room or even the Capitol vandalism but the maneuvering behind the scenes by the suits, people who should have known better.
To add to the pile of “WTF?” check this out 📧
https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/06/cop_city_paypal/
You suffer from cognitive dissonance or are a government agent, to believe anything that happened on Jan. 6 rises to the level of anything seditious.
People like you, people that are cowards, afraid to live in a free society, that think if only the government has guns that we would be safe, is exactly why the USA is headed towards internal conflict. You are the threat from within.
The Tree of Liberty is thirsty.
I’d suggest you read a bit more before jumping to conclusions. There was a lot of ‘suit’ activity behind the scenes, “novel legal theories” being tested to see if any would fly. The Capitol riot was just noise — nasty nose, unnecessary vandalism, immature behavior — that may have been intended as cover for the suit action.
The reference I quoted hasn’t got a lot of media traction. It should have. its about a breathtaking abuse of power designed to stifle opposition. This is far more relevant than just busting people for trespass and criminal damage, that’s really old school. This gets them for even thinking about protesting.
Ah Martin lad yez never disappoint! If there’s ever a slimy little pro-Establishment wiggle to be wiggled – there y’are wiggling away.
Nothing stops yez, not facts or truth or sheer bloody shame. Ye just turn up and wiggle away like the grand little wormy lad you are.
Good on yez. At least ye give us a laugh
DC is a hive of criminals that is making shit up as they go.
There was absolutely nothing that occured on Jan. 6 that comes even close to the idea of sedition.
That those people are behind bars is treason and sedition on the part of the courts and lawyers and police and FBI. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
That the system is getting away with this travesty is the real story and the real criminal activity. Nothing more than arresting, trialing, and jailing people for political dissidence and to exercise power for the purpose of fear.
Its difficult to see what is what in the article. The activist were against a police training facility why?? Are the police not allowed to train or what? I can follow you here re fantasists. But one has to know the whole story.
Its more difficult to see why the founder of the Oathkeepers deserved 18 years. It look like a leftist revenge.
An offG reader walks into a bar. Give me a dry martini, he says. Conspired, not stirred.
I will be laughing my arse off on the forthcoming Saturday because of that joke.
A troll walks into OffG …. and stirs and stirs and stirs …..
Tell us something we don’t know:
‘In the book Hooked: Ethics, the medical profession and the pharmaceutical industry by Howard Brody, MD (2007), Harry Loynd, the president of pharma firm Parke Davis from 1951-1967 is quoted as saying, “If we put horse manure in a capsule, we could sell it to 95% of these doctors.”‘
There are some aspects worthy of being high-lighted IMO; this part of the quote for instance: “I believe that when the public lacks even the most fundamental access to what its governments and militaries are doing in their names.”
It confirms what I believe about what a “represen-tative” legally is, what the word is officially taken to mean, to wit, someone appointed to bear the person of everyone in their constituency, “to beare their Person; and every one [in the constituency] to owne, and acknowledge himselfe to be Author of whatsoever he that so beareth their Person, shall Act, or cause to be Acted, in those things which concerne the Common Peace and Safetie; and therein to submit their Wills, every one to his Will, and their Judgements, to his Judgment.”*
Have we got that? Whatever a representative does or has others do is acknowledged to be owned and done by everyone in the constituency. Compare with the common understanding of the word: someone appointed to do all the good they promised their constituency.
* Leviathan, Thomas Hobbes
I’d say we know all that by now, but it is good to have some pithy quotes from sane, intelligent historical figures.
All I really want to know on top of that is how to remind the general public that books like “1984” even exist.
It is quite striking how the Hollywood movies made from the books are usually so lacking in detail – such as what the main characters were actually thinking – so that today one could be forgiven for suspecting that this is one of the reasons why the movies were made…
A 1984 book doesn’t exist. Its a conspiracy theory. Someone spread it on the net.
Fake news. Pulled out from behind..
All descriptions on the net mentioning this book only wants to discredit our country, our society, and the innocent American people. What is a book?
Well, quite.
It should not really matter who, or which group of malcontents believe in their ‘hearts’ that their maker has bestowed unto them, a self-assessed right-to-rule … or, whether they have discussed with ‘their’ God, their feelings of ‘exceptionalism. The fact should remain that they’ve quite obviously supped with the devil, and need to be sent off to join their ‘idol’. Moreover, we the plebs should be happy to send them off to meet their ‘idol’.
After all, it is not difficult to distinguish between GOOD and EVIL.
Agreed and the very reason the Second Amendment is second.
Paine ghost wrote the introduction to the Declaration of Independence.
Moreover, Paine was being guided by The Freemasons (who wanted to institute an overarching government).
Hence, Paine was required to insert a non sequitur, that 99% of readers lap up like milk:
Anyway, when you eventually find out what the Freemasons are up to, you understand the big why.
Yeah, as opposed to Anarchy (Rules WITHOUT Rulers).
Hubristic Authoritarians lose sleep over that concept.
My Father was Freemason. They are not ‘up to’ anything. Believe me.
Why spoil the game? It feels so good to believe, and to strengthen the belief, in an exterior agent of wickedness. The consequences of that admission are so recomforting: It’s not our fault, or, more accurately, we have nothing to do with it; on the contrary, we are the victims. Life was so good but we’ve suddenly been parted with our daily cake, and we don’t understand why. We believe the system is fine so it must be the work of a bunch of psychos who are doing this. They should be jailed so we have our cake back. Repeat: The system is fine, therefore this must be the work of some psychos. The cake being made with slave labour? Connais pas. Wars in far-away countries to bring home the ingredients to make the cake? Connais pas. State of affairs in the Global South while we are enjoying our cake. Connais pas; FYI our world is circumscribed to the Western, Liberal democracies in which we still believe, anything outside is exotic to us, just worthy to spend vacations. Will you arrest the psychos?
Because I want my cake back, presto.
I believe you, but. What are they then up to, if they are not up to anything.
I mean there must be something they are up to……….secretly.
See the local Masons as nothing more than a low level boys club where they meet to get drunk and complain about their wives. They’ll be dust soon as membership continues to dwindle.
Sounds true. I dont know much about it, but to my knowledge it started as a good case and slowly deteriorated through times. Trojan horses came in, a division between two different lines.
Not uncommon. When an organisation take more than 1000 members the power fight begin about the highest hat and control over the membership payments.
My best wishes to you and your father.
Dunno, never been a member of any club or cult but i’ve known a few who have.
Not all Freemasons are part of the inner circle that is part and parcel of the secret societies that work for TPTB.
If any of the Founding Fathers were part of that circle, or close to it, it was Alexander Hamilton. The orphan raised by rich benefactors with relations to TPTB.
Indeed. The “founding fathers” were nothing more than puppets, no different than Trump or Biden.