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Russia: Bludgeoning the Proles with “Public Health”

The terror will continue until morale improves

Riley Waggaman

Screams of anguish echoed through the streets of Russia after Gamaleya Center Director Alexander Gintsburg announced last month that his unproven genetic slurry had “stopped protecting completely” against the Dreaded Virus.

The next day, Sputnik V was interred on Red Square in Lenin’s Masonic pyramid. Fifty million Russians waited patiently in an 80 mile-long queue so they could pay their final respects to their beloved, safe and effective AstraZeneca goo.

But then a miracle happened:

Happy days! (source: TASS)

On November 8, Sputnik V emerged from its tomb with an efficacy of 90%! From zero to hero, to paraphrase the latest Science from the Gamaleya Center:

The effectiveness of the Sputnik V vaccine with its original antigenic composition against fatal cases of Covid infection is 90%, despite changes in the level of protection against infection due to the emergence of new variants of SARS-CoV-2. This was reported to TASS by [Gamaleya Center important person] Inna Dolzhikova, one of the developers of Sputnik V.

So…the guy who received the Order of Alexander Nevsky for inventing Sputnik V said that his genetic sludge was no match for New Mutations like the Double-Bad Mega Upsilon Variant, and that Russians would have to wait patiently for an “updated” vaccine set for release next year—but then a week later one of his underlings reassured TASS that Sputnik V was actually still safe and effective?

When Sputnik V was briefly officially useless, as reported by Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the Russian government’s official newspaper (source)

To the pea-brained layman who is not properly trained in Science, all of this sounds a bit confusing. What you don’t understand though is that measuring the effectiveness of an unproven dangerous medical experiment is a tricky business and sometimes the Effectiveness Measuring Tool isn’t properly calibrated. This is what happened exactly three years ago when Sputnik V’s effectiveness increased in order to match the fabricated data of competing clot shots.

On November 9, 2020, Pfizer revealed that interim trial data had shown its slurry to be more than 90% effective. Two days later, Gamaleya issued a statement (tweeted in CAPS LOCK) declaring Sputnik V was 92% effective.

Moderna followed with an exciting announcement on November 16: The Moderna goo was 95% effective!

A week later, Gamaleya reported that a “second interim analysis” of its data showed that actually, Sputnik V is also 95% effective:

Follow the Science

Two weeks ago Gintsburg revealed that “from mid-summer 2022, when Omicron 1, 2 and 3 variants appeared, Sputnik V’s efficacy dropped eight times. When Omicron 4 and 5 appeared, efficiency dropped by a factor of 20”.

I know what a few of you—a handful of unwanted readers who are racist against Science—are thinking: How does a health-preserving substance go from 92% effective to 95% effective to 8x less effective to 20x less effective to zero percent effective back up to 90% effective over the course of three years?

Please, let’s not split hairs. Some of us are prematurely balding and need all our hairs intact.

But as a blogger it is my job to tell you what to think and so I will explain how this works, scientifically and mathematically. There is a loophole in what some might call “basic human decency and common sense”, and it’s called public health. 95% effective to 0% effective to 90% effective is public health. Cattle tags are public health. Leaving immobile elderly women suffering from Alzheimer’s to die in a pile of their own feces is public health. Eating pills that result in “toxic liver damage” is public health.

source: TASS

It doesn’t matter how retarded and anti-healthy these things are. They are public health and if you disagree you’re a menace to society and need to be locked up forever.

And thankfully this process of purging the anti-Science fascists is already happening in Russia.

For example, a young man was recently arrested in St. Petersburg for quietly protesting against Russia’s glorious justice system (Ramzan Kadyrov’s son beating up a Russian teenager who was extradited to Chechnya after setting fire to a copy of the Quran). This lone picketer was arrested for endangering public health by violating Covid restrictions that prohibit public gatherings. One guy. In a city full of people walking around doing stuff. Arrested. Because the Virus. Public health.

VIRUS-SPREADER

Then a few weeks later two gentlemen who were “distributing leaflets about helping the [Not-War] front” were detained, again because of public health:

Police disrupted a Limonov Party picket in St. Petersburg

Today, during a single picket from the National Bolsheviks party, Kirill Travkin was detained. Kirill stood with a flag and distributed leaflets about helping the front. National Bolshevik Semyon Debenok, who was nearby and did not take part in the picket, was also detained. The detainees were taken to the 78th police department of St. Petersburg.

The formal reason for Kirill’s detention was violation of covid restrictions (Article 8.6.1 of the Law on Administrative Offenses of St. Petersburg). Detaining a person at a patriotic event for allegedly spreading Covid, while many other public events are taking place in the city, is absurd. The formal reason for Semyon’s detention is not clear to us.

If you think it’s strange that two harmless pro-SMO Nazbol guys were arrested in St. Petersburg for spreading the Virus, you clearly don’t understand Russia. Anyone who is a millimeter to the Right of the Kremlin—or dares to meddle in politics in general—is considered an existential threat to the Russian State, which is actually just a group of oligarchs who like to kill Slavs for fun. (Thank you to Rurik Skywalker for alerting me to these shining examples of public health preservation.)

Where was I going with this? Oh right, public health. You can laugh or you can cry.

Riley Waggaman is your humble Moscow correspondent. He worked for RT, Press TV, Russia Insider, yadda yadda. In his youth, he attended a White House lawn party where he asked Barack Obama if imprisoned whistleblower Bradley Manning (Chelsea was still a boy back then) “had a good Easter.” Good times good times. You can subscribe to his Substack here, or follow him on twitter or Telegram.

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TRM
TRM
Dec 5, 2023 8:44 PM

I wonder how many of the Russian elite took the real shots? Maybe a bunch will end up like the “mandate” mayor of Montreal who collapsed on stage with an apparent heart attack

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video/c2821830-plante-collapses-during-news-conference

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Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Dec 1, 2023 5:44 AM

Convid

If the convid virus was real Bloody Bibi could have used it to exterminate the Gazans. Generous clot shots would have protected his own population. But that would have been less satisfying for his own sadism and the profits of the merchants of death.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 1, 2023 6:01 AM

But that would have been less satisfying for his own sadism and the profits of the merchants of death.

What would have been? Unleashing a fictional virus? I feel you lost track of your point there. A2

Tom
Tom
Dec 1, 2023 9:33 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

You obviously don’t understand the point made.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 1, 2023 10:13 AM
Reply to  Tom

Really? I thought it was a non sequitur. Feel free to explain if I’m being a dumb dumb.

Tom
Tom
Dec 1, 2023 4:58 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

You really need this spelling out? Then yes, you really are dumb.

‘Bloody Bibi’ would have freed all of his ‘infected’ Palestinian prisoners to ‘transmit’ the ‘deadly virus’ amongst the ‘less than human’ Gazan population, whilst simultaneously protecting the Israeli population with the ‘safe and effective’ vaccine.

But we know that the virus doesn’t exist and transmission of anything has never been proven. Sadistic ‘Bloody Bibi’ knows that the vaccine is actually killing and maiming millions, including his own population, while at the same time enriching his true masters, ‘the merchants of death’

Please point out the ‘non sequitur’ in the above.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 4, 2023 1:03 PM
Reply to  Tom

The OP seems to be implying, at least from my point of view, that Netanyahu has the ability to shift the boundaries of reality to suit his sadistic whim. That would be the only scenario that wouldn’t make the OP’s comment a non sequitur, imo.

Prob it was just phrased clumsily. I didn’t mean to make it a big thing, but it confused me.

It’s nice, actually, that the community is here to stand up for each other, even on older pieces, even hidden way down in the comments, in order to put us admins in our place.

If admin got too out of hand, that would be bad, right? 😅

I like it because it allows me to constantly improve. A2

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 30, 2023 1:31 PM

Make it stop… Make it stop…

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Nov 30, 2023 11:25 AM

A word about the “cooperating elites” theory: before we can be sure it is true, we must discard two competing hypotheses which lead to the same observable facts.

First, “conflict avoidance” in a hierarchical structure of power can account to apparent consensus. An example might be Iran or Russia or China not actively participating in stopping the conflict in the Middle East. Or even Europe’s avoidance of conflict with the US (these two are fierce competitors bu the subject is neglected).

Second, competition might have the external appearances of consensual behaviour. This is the case, for instance, between Russia and the US, whereby both, under Capital, are compelled to overcome the inherent contradictions of the system by using the innovations in technology. An image might be of a race: runners are running along the same direction towards the same goal; nevertheless, they are the opponents of each other and everyone wishes the others to stumble or otherwise have trouble.

Literature hase made clear the insufficiency of observable behaviour in revealing the structure or unity of political power.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 30, 2023 10:36 AM

Telegraph:

“100,000 people march in London promoting Jewish message of peace – and there is very little sound
….
There was an awkwardness to the crowd’s chants. Many, on their first march, preferred to keep quiet than to join in the singing, with tunes dying out in moments.”

That’s the spirit!

rickypop
rickypop
Nov 30, 2023 7:32 PM
Reply to  George Mc

That is because everything we say or sing can be construed as anti-Semitism. Many of the corrupt criminal minds behind all this corporate, terror, control, agenda hide behind Jewish identity whilst killing Jewish people in the process. Thats why everything leads to anti-Semitism and why we must speak out for the truth.

Balkydj
Balkydj
Nov 30, 2023 8:12 AM

Postman calling: Off Topic, but there is nowhere else appropriate to comment on the NATO & OSCE inspired “Malice” towards Lavrov & Zakharova, whose plane had to detour around Bulgaria to arrive in Skopje… for the OSCE meeting in the Republic of Northern Macedonia. The OSCE has dictated its’ own fate, it appears… mind you, that was true from the moment that they covered up the Cold War Arms Depository history, in Slavyansk 2014 and the destiny of the 5 million items held within: what an inventory… paid for by Russia, but ‘acquired’ by Ukro-Nazis, with Buk Missiles. Anybody recall MH17 ? Because the OSCE have conveniently forgotten.

Meanwhile, party on. HENRY KISSINGER DIED …

Let’s celebrate the potential for, a peaceful Christmas & Remember what a bunch of corporate sock puppets the Bulgarian politicians have become…
talk about Gormless. Carry on CockSuckers…
for Corporate Wars and military budgets.

ariel
ariel
Nov 30, 2023 4:47 PM
Reply to  Balkydj

Nope, haven’t forgotten, Was it a Ukranian Mig 29, or the earlier BUK that the Russians weren’t using because they had been superseded. Apropos: I had a Slav Girlfriend, She said that they called all jet fighters ‘Migs,’ whether they were Sukhoi, Lockheed, or General Dynamics.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Nov 30, 2023 4:59 AM

The Great Reset & The Great Awakening are the same thing. One feeds into the other. To steer people towards the false light. A fake victory. Whereby people believe false light has defeated darkness. The darkness being the obvious villains placed before everyone.

But it’ll lead to “The Mark” possibly the Neuralink. So “We can be as God’s” the original lie peddled to Eve by the serpent.

There is and has been a very clear war on Christianity. Why? That War is accelerating. Hence the burning of the churches in 2020.
We live in a Spiritual realm and this is a Spiritual battle. It’s always been about debasing God’s creations, “us”. Why else the overt Luciferian symbology , a double bluff? Why else the needless suffering? The mockery of Man & Woman? The attack upon us on a cellular level, if not to debase?

“You don’t have a Soul. You are a Soul”

Or you’ve been corrupted by their lies and see your self as part of evolution from a Monkey on a ball in an infinite universe an insignificant speck floating endlessly in “space”.. The atheist is thee most lost of them all.

It wants “our” attention at all times. Doing that means it’s winning. We’re all assisting by engaging in it’s “tales”. Have to turn “our” backs on all of it and help eachother survive the coming storms.

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Nov 30, 2023 8:01 AM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

I actually think you’re right. And I am speaking as a person with mo religious affiliation or upbringing. The feeling like it was a struggle against evil really kicked off for me in 2020

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Nov 30, 2023 2:10 PM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Fair play. We’ve all been affected by these entities.Had us believing Scientism.

In Spain they just banned people, a Christian country supposedly, from displaying rosery beeds and praying the Hail Mary in public.. Not demonic in the least.

Are they scared of prayer 🙏 if so why?

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Nov 30, 2023 1:35 PM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

Any still experiencing the strong delusion that Putin & the Brics are gonna save us. Just remember who are the 5 permanent members of the United Nations Security Council.
They also happen to be the largest arms manufacturers too. Just a…

Billwoods
Billwoods
Nov 30, 2023 3:37 PM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

Nowhere is that war on Christianity waged more often than in Israel, of course you never see that on the MSM which falls over itself to talk about antisemitic hate crimes

ariel
ariel
Nov 30, 2023 5:42 PM
Reply to  Kaczynski2

As you know, we have been lied to about absolutely everything. What shape the world is, What the lights in the sky really ARE. HIS-STORY is a good one. Probably completely rewritten in the late 1800s. I could go on, but……
The important thing is that this is the lower astral, the ‘hurt and pain place’. It’s a ‘place?’ ‘level?’ where what we are calling ‘evil things’ can be, and are done. I cannot pretend to be as dogmatic as the Catholic priests I had the misfortune to be forced to put up with for nearly 8 years, but I think that ultimately balance will be restored. one way and another, but for now and the forthcoming short-term ‘future’, which can and is split into what some people call ‘time streams,’ which can swap around according to the spiritual awakening(s)/development of the soul/beings, according to my ‘memory’/ dreams/visions, there is one in which this all stops, and the top criminals at the head of all this either change enough or are forced by ‘ a superior power’ which could even be ‘us’, in a more purified form with or because of a corresponding change in the dream/middle or upper astral levels.
So all of us who have any power and clarity must use it wisely and whenever possible because we don’t want to have to stand in the (not the dock, because that’s Admiralty Law, the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) spotlight trying to find the excuses for why we didn’t do what we were capable of, and for which we actually find ourselves here, and in this space and time.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 29, 2023 10:56 PM

Here is another joke.
Xi and Biden just met in San Francisco “to talk it over”.

Russia wanted SO much to be a member of NATO, but Ukraine was first on their feet and took the spotlight and is now first in pipeline.

Then Russia wanted so much to be equal partners with US, Astra Seneca, Pfizer and Moderna.
But China was quicker. President Xi jumped in and took over:

“During a dinner in San Francisco with the leading CEOs of the largest international corporations based in America, Xi Jinping spoke directly with Tim Cook of Apple Inc. and Larry Fink of BlackRock Inc. on how to attract investment to the Middle Kingdom.”

At the end of the talks with Biden, Xi Jinping was wagging his tail up and down and said China was seeking to be friends with the United States and “wants so much peaceful relations“.
The Chinese president later repeated his bending over at the dinner party in Frisco: “The number one question for us is: are we enemies or are we equal partners?
https://katyusha.org/vojna/syusimusi-v-lesnoj-storone-pod-san-franczisko.html .

Russia is still trying through Sber Bank to hang on to the NWO and QR society.
“Rainbow” gender theme weeks organised by Sber Bank are pupping up in Russia, and someone mention Herman Gref as Russia’s next President.

confirmyourhuman
confirmyourhuman
Nov 29, 2023 10:19 PM

Putin’s own Daughter was the first to try out the wonder cure.
You can always trust the science when Mr fighting the deep state in U.S.S.R is
giving his own Daughter the shot.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 30, 2023 1:33 PM

or appears to be giving his own daughter the shot…

NickM
NickM
Nov 29, 2023 8:55 PM

Russia steps in to help Syria guard its border:

https://youtu.be/yzNWvRXNrOc?si=Xrf7Nr_gvw7ZhXmu

“There was a stone in the middle of the road”.
In the middle of the road was a stone” — Carlos de Andrade.

Syria, with help from Iran, Russia and Hezb’Allah, was the stone on which stumbled the Anglo Zionazi Capitalist juggernaut called NATZO with its 500,000 mercenary army called ISIS.

Ukraine, with help from Russia and China, was the second stone, on which stumbled the Euro Zionazi Capitalist juggernaut with its 500,000 army of NATZO-controlled Ukro-nazis.

Gaza is the third stone, on which the Zionazi army with its Anglo Capitalist backers is currently stumbling.

“A mess of Russians” — Shakespeare, Loves Labours Lost.

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Nov 30, 2023 8:16 AM
Reply to  NickM

No offence but – so what at this stage right?

I mean even if you’re 100% right about that all we are talking about is a war between globalist factions who both want to enslave and surveil and poison their populations. Whoever prevails we get the same result.

It’s like getting all worked up about whether Oceania or Eurasia win the endless war in 1984!

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Nov 30, 2023 1:11 PM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Because if our only attitude is to oppose the status quo; if we have no firm vision of what we want, which can’t be had without understanding the mechanics according to which the current status quo came about in the first place, then we are easily budged from our position of opponents to a position of supporters.

The globalists have just to bring on new and charismatic actors, and a new convincing discourse of national sovereignty (like Trump did) and the opposition to globalisation. They’ll talk of new projects, new laws, of a revival of national traditions, of new alliances based on mutual respect, etc, etc, and the abolition of the old policies such Agenda 2030, all-dgital, pandem** treaties; in a word, everything that was opposed; they’ll not tell us how they’ll going to do it, naturally. They even can stage trials of previous globalists “who done so much harms to our nations”.

Since our only attitude was only to oppose the then prevailing reality, then a promise of a contrary reality (which may be just superficial) shall not be checked out against a firm positive position, and will satisfy us IMO.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 29, 2023 7:59 PM

Oh look. Another manufactured “illness”:

https://www.dazeddigital.com/beauty/article/61375/1/body-muscle-dysmorphia-crisis-amoung-men-mental-health-masculinity

Inside the rising ‘muscle dysmorphia crisis’ among young men

Defined as a preoccupation with one’s perceived lack of muscularity, muscle dysmorphia is becoming increasingly prevalent, causing what experts are calling a ‘silent crisis’ in men’s mental health

Oh the escalating pathologies everywhere! It’s ….it’s …. almost as if the entire human race is DOOMED!

Vagabard
Vagabard
Nov 29, 2023 7:50 PM

From what I recall, ‘effectiveness’ or ‘efficacy’ can be either ‘absolute’ or ‘relative’. The ‘relative’ version giving the high percentages. 95% thus being a fudge factor.

Being arrested in Russia was traditionally the way for officers to boost their incomes (via arbitrary fines)

Some Entertaining
Some Entertaining
Nov 29, 2023 7:22 PM

From underestimated outsider to king of Europe: How a German coach gave Greece back the national consciousness it thought it had lost with the formula “Unity is strength”. There is certainly something to be learned from this for the white race. https://upmovies.to/watch/kvXBgkwG-king-otto.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Otto_(film)

hoaxashian
hoaxashian
Nov 29, 2023 4:53 PM

Anarchos
Anarchos
Nov 29, 2023 2:31 PM

Also, the really big booger here is that they can make any claims to any effectiveness whatsoever. COVID, a made-up disease without proper diagnosis, and an injection that will supposedly prevent “infection” or prevent lethal symptoms. How do they pretend to calculate efficiency?

it is the same kind of “science” that tells people with a straight face that they analysed sewage water and identified intact viruses…..and then uses this “data” to take decisions on the enforcement of anti-human measures for “public health”.

WIthout a background in biology it is hard to grasp the extent of the lying here… This style of bare-faced lying is exactly the style of Israel and its firends. They do not need sophisticated lies, because they have the guns and the media, and there is no end of shills queueing up for their pieces of silver…

So they just use easy-to-concoct, gross, in-your-face lies in the same way a bully does- what are you going to do about it? This is calcluated to make intelligent people angry in their powerlessness.

2+2=5 because we say so.

Anarchos
Anarchos
Nov 29, 2023 2:19 PM

Bob and Bob will musically explain this to you:

-The Science, it’s always changin’

-You can fool some people all the time…

peter mackey
peter mackey
Nov 29, 2023 11:13 AM

At least the Sputnik V isn’t poisonous to humans like the Moderna/Pfizer gene therapies that weren’t effective and cause vast number of deaths.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 29, 2023 4:06 PM
Reply to  peter mackey

I believe Sputnik V is actually based very closely on the AstraZeneca jab. A2

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Nov 30, 2023 8:18 AM
Reply to  peter mackey

Jesus mate where have you been?

davetherave
davetherave
Nov 30, 2023 2:40 PM
Reply to  peter mackey

I spit my coffee out reading your comment.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Nov 29, 2023 2:33 AM

I’m not sure why Mr Waggaman thinks that the USA is different.

  1. The US Deep State is just a bunch of oligarchs who like to kill Arabs for fun.
  2. New York State will be isolating the unvaccinated in Camps, the Governor has just been granted the power to do just that.
  3. The DOD commissioned the manufacture of Pfizer/Moderna ‘goo’ using legal loopholes which render all pharmaceutical product regulation redundant. That’s US Public Health for you.
  4. Tens of thousands of non-physicians prescribed, nay mandated, Pfizer/Moderna ‘goos’ for hundreds of millions of US citizens.
  5. Excess deaths in the USA have gone up by half a million in the first 7 months of 2023, with the possibility that it will be 1 million excess deaths by years end.
  6. Despite those excess deaths the past two years, Emergency Use Authorisation of the dangerous goos for children has been granted by the US Deep State, giving Pfizer yet more revenues for its dangerous, untrialled and unethical goo.
  7. Americans going flying should be aware of the major increase in ‘health incidents’ involving active-service civilian pilots since vaccine mandates were imposed on their profession.
  8. They should also be aware that Davos psychopaths are actively seeking unvaccinated pilots to fly their private jets. That’s ‘public health’, USA style, for you.

You may be aware that I benchmark all countries world wide against the USA, because the self-righteous lying of the USA about its morality, its probity, its criminality and its fiscal degeneracy represent the lowest bar possible for a functioning community, let alone a functioning Superpower.

I don’t see the USA as a moral policeman, I don’t see the USA as anything but a Jewish vassal slave-state. The low level hoods enforcing the Godfather’s evil will.

And the fact that less than 1% of US Citizens are Jews should tell you that the USA does not believe in democracy, it actively crushes democracy and it has let a cabal of psychotic, criminal, genocidal Zionists take control of their land in the way that racists, slaveowners and nazis could only admire.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Nov 29, 2023 5:39 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Mr Waggaman does not say the USA is different. In fact his point is often the exact opposite.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Nov 29, 2023 2:09 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

From the author’s articles, I gather that his thesis is that Russia is no different to the West in its handling of the medical theatre; that just because Russia is the heir of the Soviet Union wherefrom it pretends drawing its values doesn’t make it any different in fact from the West. The word “proles” in the title suggests as much.

But Russia, – and also China and many other nations, – is at the same time equal to and different from the West. That is if we want to account for 100% of reality.

Russia’s Capitalism (reliance on a State, wages and money and private lucrative property) had to emerge when the revolutions in Europe, especially in Germany and Italy failed. Indeed, as a result of these failures, it was in an isolated, weak position internationally. To get an idea of this isolation, consider that even the Germany of the 1920s, the villain of the movie, had more leverage and consideration in the international arena than Russia, because, after all, it shared the liberal values of the victors of the Great War. Russia, amidst its isolation had nevertheless to resume diplomatic relations with the capitalist world, because there were previous ties and obligations with Czarist Russia such as concessions, debts, reparations of the war, and even other aspects that were in Russia’s interest make up international relations. So Russia was in an awkward position: Its official policy was based on Socialism and Marxist method of enquiry, but the world Revolution everywhere else having failed, it had to deal (it had to) with a stronger and expanded capitalist world, which is the antithesis of everything Soviet Russia stood for. As a result, it had to erect a State, an army, and all the institutions of a capitalist nation as a matter of necessity, not because they wanted to.

Indeed, according to Marx and others, if there is anything true about Capital is its blind expansion and absorption of everything on its way. And thus Russia had to keep and strengthen its Red Army and build an arms industry, keep an internal market, etc; everything caused by its being the odd man out among the nations. There are other matters: Russia needed credits, for, as one capitalist then observed – rightly IMO – (paraphrasing): “The Bolcheviks think that just because they have all the land and applying their Marxist doctrine they can develop their economy; they shall need tools, industiral products, machines, and their industry is ruined.” And it was in the Capitalists’ interest (and in Russia’s too of course) that Russia got international credits, rehabilitates the old concessions, and develops its economy, so it is able to repay its debts. And hence, things in reality are far more complex and nuanced, and as I always say: people and nations are less mutually exclusive than the labels we put on them. And thus, it may seem an irony that to defend its Socialism, Russia had to adopt Capitalism. It is only apparently contradictory because we unduly cling to static labels, and believe that nations float in the ether with no historical connections between them, whereas reality is more complex, and escapes the logic of black-and-white thinking.

Something similar happened in China which couldn’t find any other way to get its revenge from the West (which humiliated her and imposed on her opiums and wars at a time she wasn’t ready to) than to try and be the most efficient at its rivals’ game: Capitalism. It always amazed me why Chinese communities abroad dedicated to commerce were so obsessed with money and business; I had always connected China with spirituality, martial arts and wisdom. The answer came after much search from one Chinese who said that China couldn’t isolate herself as a socialist in one country; International Capital would eat her alive. There was only one way to recover its honor: to play at its rivals’ game and win at it.

Tot summarise, what we call “socialism” or “communism” in Russia or China, is the capitalism that had to be established in those countries in opposition to Western capitalism, so as to keep a distance, even if only ideologically, between Capitalism and Communism.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 29, 2023 11:55 PM

Make sense.

Big Al
Big Al
Nov 29, 2023 6:53 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

What country are you from btw?

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 30, 2023 12:26 AM
Reply to  Big Al

Another controlled by the same cabal. The cabal that controls the world.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Nov 30, 2023 3:43 AM

Exactly, which is weird why this dude has such a hard on for the U.S. He evidently isn’t aware of the higher forces effecting his own country as well.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 30, 2023 4:06 AM

You can just say Israel, man. I know it’s more fun having a little club and snickering about it behind the bike sheds, but come on. You can even say the Jews. Lots of people do, and everyone seems ok with it.

I personally think that pov is simplistic at best, and at worst it’s polarising garbage that deserves to be filed alongside terrain theory and lab leak theory as the top disinfo psyops that pass through these parts. From my pov, whether all three turn out to be 100% correct or not, they all have the same immediate effect now. They all underscore a 20th century geopolitical model, and they back way off from the globalist model we witnessed in 2020.

No one even talks about 77th brigade anymore, but I really don’t think they’ve gone anywhere. Do you?

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Nov 30, 2023 8:25 AM

He doesn’t say anything about the US being better. It’s such fucking childish reductionist thinking that criticizing Russia equals bigging up the US.

He never bigs up the US. His whole spiel is about people thinking Russia is better when actually they’re doing all the same globalist anti-human shit.

Kaczynski2
Kaczynski2
Nov 30, 2023 7:10 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Yes Mr Jaggar, compelling as always. But one eyed too. How does pointing fiingers at a occupied govt change anything? We enjoyed the spoils perpetuated the lies.

Their sins or our sins. Pointing at the US is but Rats leaving a sinking ship one muses.

And so, what now? You think shitting on them absolves us all?

This is convenient of you and you are too smart for that.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 28, 2023 10:55 PM

Now, where can I get one of these?

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Johnny
Johnny
Nov 28, 2023 10:58 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Bob Moran of course

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 28, 2023 10:32 PM

“The Russians are dumbing the Russians are dumbing!”

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Nov 28, 2023 10:27 PM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2023-11-27. British politicians who “questioned government decision making” monitored 77th brigade to “counter disinfo” (blog, gab, tweet, pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4).

StStephen
StStephen
Nov 28, 2023 10:17 PM

Facetious as he is, and clever, dear Wags, I believe he misses (or deliberately ignores to achieve his effect) a vital if subtle point about the efficacious.

The latest Russian declaration of “90% effective” relates to “deaths from covid infection”, thereby again admitting that the Splatnick “vaccine” doesn’t prevent infection. But Isn’t that the same chestnut pulled from the fire by the West’s own covidists when it was no longer possible for them to pretend their “vaccine” prevented infection/transmission and so suddenly switched to “prevents serious illness and death”?

The Russians seem merely to belatedly continue their game of copycat-competition. Nothing, as yet, about deaths from vaccination. And there, too, they seem to ape their Western frère ennemies.

StStephen
StStephen
Nov 28, 2023 10:32 PM
Reply to  StStephen

I hasten to add that doesn’t mean I don’t hope they smash the Ukronazis!

Edwige
Edwige
Nov 29, 2023 9:25 AM
Reply to  StStephen

What does “effective” mean in this context? Compared to what? It usually means compared to the previous “best” treatment, not compared to no treatment or being healthy.

StStephen
StStephen
Nov 29, 2023 12:56 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Well, yes. Except that here “effective” doesn’t really mean anything and never did.

Baldmichael Theresolute
Baldmichael Theresolute
Nov 29, 2023 11:10 PM
Reply to  Edwige
David Meredith
David Meredith
Nov 28, 2023 10:03 PM

Yes all those “vaccines” are 90-95% effective with respect to their true intent, however that is not to prevent infection or spread of virus.

David McBain
David McBain
Nov 28, 2023 8:53 PM

Well, he made me laugh a couple of times.

Mark Millward
Mark Millward
Nov 28, 2023 7:11 PM

It’s that Theodore Dalrymple thing – Communism being about humiliation. This Sputnik V ritual contradiction is a reminder to the plebs that TPTB are all powerful and official lies will be compliantly adopted as truth, making the participants a little bit evil. Should be a familiar tactic to all western nation citizens, obvious since March 2020 but visible to the curious for a century or several. St John Fisher lost his head for being curious about official deceptions concerning King Harry’s foibles. Downhill ever since.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 29, 2023 12:55 AM
Reply to  Mark Millward

Absolutely. We have not been one single brain cell wiser since.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Nov 28, 2023 6:31 PM

Riley, since you don’t get it, i’ll say it again. When Russia bludgeons people using the public health system, it’s for your good, our good, the general good of the populace. It’s not like it’s being done to benefit some private interests and to strengthen the state. Oh, wait,  😂 

Thanks, once again, for calling things out, things that even many on this forum don’t wanna see and would rather they weren’t discussed.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 28, 2023 6:16 PM

Meanwhile, the combined West is trying to dismember Russia, as it has been trying to do for nearly a millennium, and this is the state of play on the frontline !

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Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Nov 28, 2023 6:36 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

A millennium? Russia has not even existed for that long. It was only about a thousand years ago that the Slavic people who called themselves simply “The People,” as well as the Baltic-speaking tribes of the region and other populations, came under the control of a Viking band called the Varangians, who sailed the rivers between the Baltic and Black Seas, who were called “Rus,” oarsmen, and thus their territory became Russiya.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 28, 2023 7:16 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl
Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 29, 2023 1:07 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Which means that we have the our full rights to return to our ancient bloodline and promised Fatherland, as the Russians only are invading bastards.

So that is why we in the West have invaded Russia again and again and again. Everything has a logical reason with facts!.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Nov 29, 2023 2:01 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

“I don’t believe there are any Russians
there are no yanks.
Just corporate criminals
playing with tanks.”
The Walls Came Down, The Call, 1983.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 29, 2023 7:20 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

“ Which means..” The last time the West almost succeeded in achieving their long held quest to dismember Russia!

https://www.voltairenet.org/article168007.html

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Nov 29, 2023 1:59 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

And? That’s not 1000 years. By that point, the Varangian political entity had morphed into a Russian state, first one based in Kyiv, and then another one based in Moskva, by which point the Russian language had split from what was at first the Ruthenian language, which later was itself to split into Belarusian and Ukrainian. The state headed by Nevsky was itself rapidly expanding, devouring territory, incorporating other populations, usually against their will. Just another expansionist military state, just like the Teutonic Knights.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 29, 2023 7:29 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

“ And? That’s not a 1000 years” Correct. Hence why I wrote “ ..nearly a millennium “ Try to read what I have written rather than what you think I wrote!

Penelope
Penelope
Nov 29, 2023 5:25 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

NWO is the dismemberment of ALL states. Only those who explicitly identify the globalist agenda & fight against its components can be against the NWO’s loss of sovereignty of ALL countries.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 29, 2023 7:57 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Some of the Key objectives of the City of London plus their associates objectives.

1. Destruction of nation states.

2. Destruction of the family unit ie Daddy ( male) + Mummy ( female) and children.

3. Destruction of religion ie Christianity, Islam etc

The Russian Federation and others : has fought to uphold nation states, forbidden the perverse paedophilic ideology of the West and upheld religion.

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Nov 30, 2023 8:31 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

So if you’re right in the West we get Agenda 2030 plus wokeism and in Russia they get Agenda 2030 minus wokeism.

Wow, yeah. Big diff.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Nov 30, 2023 9:19 PM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Hmm, I see you missed the points such as defending Nation hood or refusing to destroy religion. Not quite on the Agenda 2030.

Doesn’t quite fit the, they are all in together!

Edwige
Edwige
Nov 29, 2023 9:27 AM
Reply to  Penelope

More a hollowing out than a dismemberment – if the shell remains, more people will be duped into thinking nothing’s really changed.

sandy
sandy
Nov 28, 2023 6:16 PM

Out and out authoritarianism and war seems to be the universal operating system of the world’s elite in the 21st C, to keep their sociopathic butts in surviving control. This period is also the most informed period,and the fascist barrel of a gun tactics are wearing thin. So now that we know anyone campaigning (pretending) to serve us is a corrupt sociopath, don’t you think it time we the 99% make policy? And can’t we replace these elite sociopaths with our highly supervised legislative technician employees to implement those policies?

Anarchos
Anarchos
Nov 29, 2023 2:44 PM
Reply to  sandy

This period is also the most informed period,and the fascist barrel of a gun tactics are wearing thin

But are they, really?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 29, 2023 4:34 PM
Reply to  Anarchos

I sense they are wearing thin, in that people are retreating from it. Hence why the media circus is forced to increasingly jump the shark, since, for the average person, the message must penetrate through a thick mental cataract at this point. Soon I think humans will achieve sensory isolation. Such is their craving for reality, they’d burrow down into the earth, into oblivion, rather than face the scorching bullshit one minute more.

At that point, humanity having had a moment of peace to pause and reflect, the PTB may be their most terrified. And I think we’re getting there, don’t you?

How many people in your everyday interactions want to talk ‘politics’ any more? How many people mention Israel in conversation? Far less than mentioned Ukraine, and even that was far less than covid. It’s a steep downward curve, I think.

No, not ‘climate change’, or some celestial apocalyptic event kept under wraps, the true race against time we’re witnessing here is to get humanity tied down before it can wake up.

I think it’s a futile struggle on their part, tbh, but the machine has been built and it will continue to run and serve its purpose.
A2

sandy
sandy
Nov 29, 2023 10:02 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Agreed. Everything they do now becomes a joke before it even goes anywhere. Nothing is believable anymore which for Humanity, i think, is a positive step. The system must lie to sell us cheap crap we don’t need, and make sure that which which we do need, is never realized. The gap between the two widens everyday, and just makes it obvious to even the most oblivious.

Just today there was an article about Sports Illustrated, the NYT of sports news in the US, and other msm, using AI “journalists” and “journalism”, getting busted for it. AI generate photo portraits and bios. Does management really think we don’t notice and do not extrapolate these scams to other more nefarious applications? My gawd.

https://futurism.com/sports-illustrated-ai-generated-writers

Doing some personal research as an artist, i’ve run into “international” art competitions posted by a conglomerate of somekind (Gallerium / Biafarin) offering $0 entry, but charging high amounts for those artists “selected” for inclusion. Then selling the artists publications with their art in them. I saw a cluster of about 15 of these yesterday in the CAFE website (https://artist.callforentry.org/festivals.php). I have surfed thru their linked connections to find art, artists, websites, shows and galleries seemingly created, it seems to me, by an AI. One of the artists listed in one of the galleries has a slick website with tons of art, with simulated placings in upscale homes, businesses and hotels, but no informing info, sizes, or prices. Just “contact me” email and strange, arty-like, declarations. Wierd to say the least, but definitely fraud schemes to get naive newbie artist to fork up money, with ultimately no real exposure to the real art world or art viewer/buyers.

The PTB have been overclocking every aspect of reality since digital tools appeared. The elite see no limits for themselves in a Universe with strict, inviolable limits. The more they persist, the greater the failures. Indeed we must awaken before we are trapped in their digital Panopticon. They depend on our complicity and participation to be successful. For instance if we set aside smart phones in our personal lives, outside work expectations, the whole scheme collapses and the fraud only persists in their own commerce community.

There’s a lot we can do, by not-doing.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 30, 2023 12:12 AM
Reply to  sandy

Great comment! Thank you. A2

sandy
sandy
Nov 29, 2023 9:21 PM
Reply to  Anarchos

Just watch how many eligible Americans vote for prez this time. People aren’t working full time, going to doctors because of lost trust. TV is verifiably unwatchable, even to see what crap they spew at us, thinking it will stick. Their desperation is palpable and as long as we do not participate and do not consent, their empire is melting toast.

Tom
Tom
Nov 28, 2023 6:08 PM

When will it dawn on you that there is no virus, no transmission, no immune system and zero efficacy of pumping toxins into your already saturated body?

gordan
gordan
Nov 28, 2023 8:10 PM
Reply to  Tom

PLAGUE IN SWITZERLAND

When the bubonic plague hit Geneva in 1530, everything was ready. They even opened a whole hospital for the plague. With doctors, paramedics and nurses. The merchants chipped in, the magistrate issued subsidies every month. Patients constantly threw babyshko, and if one of them died alone, then all the property was transferred to the hospital.

But then a disaster struck. The plague began to decline. And subsidies with payment for maintenance depended on the number of patients. For the staff of the Geneva hospital of the 1530 model, there was no question of good and evil. If the plague gives money, then the plague is good. And then the doctors began to do this very good.

At first, they simply poisoned patients in order to increase the statistics on mortality, but they quickly realized that statistics should be not just on mortality, but on deaths from the plague. Then they began to cut abscesses from the bodies of the dead, dry them, crush them in a mortar and give them to other patients as medicine. Then they began to sprinkle this powder on things, handkerchiefs and garters.

But the plague somehow continued to subside. Apparently, dried buboes did not work well. The doctors went outside the hospital and began to process the door handles with bubonic powder at night, choosing those houses where they could profit later. As an eyewitness of these events wrote, “it remained hidden for some time, but the devil is more concerned about the increase in the number of sins than about hiding them.” In short, one of the aesculapians became insolent and lazy to such an extent that he decided not to wander around the city at night, but simply to throw a bundle of powder into the crowd during the day. The stench rose to heaven, and one of the women, who, by a happy coincidence, had recently come out of this hospital, found out what it smelled like.

The employee was tied up and given into the good hands of the appropriate craftsmen. And they tried to get more information out of him.

In general, the execution lasted for several days. Inventive hippocrates were tied to poles on carts and taken around the city. At every intersection, the executioners tore out pieces of meat from them with hot tongs. Then they brought them to the square, chopped off their heads and quartered, and the units were carried to all districts of Geneva for edification.

An exception was made only for the son of the hospital overseer, who was not involved in the process, but blurted out that he knew how to make potions and how to prepare powder without fear of infection. They simply cut off his head “in order to prevent the spread of evil.”

François Bonivard (1493-1570) “Chronicles of Geneva”

ariel
ariel
Nov 28, 2023 9:52 PM
Reply to  gordan

Plus ca change

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Nov 28, 2023 10:17 PM
Reply to  gordan

1530 ! What happened around 1850 ????????

Are you sure ?

gordan
gordan
Nov 29, 2023 2:56 PM

busy ness is business

through murder most foul the state doth prosper.
pustule dust puss powder came buy bye by long before jenner
and long after .

who dances in hospitals on you tubed
surgeons nurse and doctor
not angels but monster

First be thou void of these affections,
Compassion, love, vain hope, and heartless fear,
Be moved at nothing, see thou pity none,

money theft slaughter

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Dec 1, 2023 9:39 PM
Reply to  gordan

Could be, but trust belief is all before rewrite, reset, recent….

StStephen
StStephen
Nov 28, 2023 10:28 PM
Reply to  gordan

Astounding, particularly because I live there and have never heard this. So that’s where the Hôpitaux universitaires de Genève get their ideas!

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Nov 29, 2023 3:41 PM
Reply to  StStephen

Just the old problem of poverty. The scheme was started by a scoundrel named Michel Caddo who feigned to be stricken by the pest so he could be lodged, fed and served at the prince’s pleasure.

When the crook was due to leave (40-day cure) he persuaded the doctor to keep the hospital open by keeping the other patients sick artificially.

Even before that episode, when people died of pest, the hospital sent “cleaners” to the deceased homes for disinfection. They cleaned the homes thoroughly, literally and figurately. The loot was then distributed among the staff of the hospital.

Context: there was a war going on, scarcity, and inflation.

Antonym
Antonym
Nov 29, 2023 12:42 AM
Reply to  Tom

No immune system? We are alive today because it.
Those with AIDS die due to the lack off it, combined with dark mental projections.

Edwige
Edwige
Nov 29, 2023 9:50 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Ethel Douglas Home (‘Bechamp or Pasteur?’ p.195-6) on vaccination:

“The whole theory is rooted in a belief in the immunity conferred by a non-fatal attack of a disease. The idea arises from the habit of regardig a disease as an entity, a definite thing, instead of a disordered condition, due to complex causes; the germ-theory of disease, in particular, being th unconscious offspring of the ancient Eastern faith in specific demons, each possessed of his own special weapon of malignity… The assertion that because many people have had a one and only attack of any specific complaint, an auto-protection has thus been afforded them is, surely, no more scientific than the old Indian belief in the assauging of the wrath of a malignant goddess. As Professor Alfred Russel Wallace says:- ‘very few people suffer from any special accident twice – a shipwreck, or railway or coach accident, or a house on fire; yet one of these accidents does not confer immunity against its happening a second time. \\the taking it for granted that second attacks of smallpox, or of any other zymotic disease, are of that degree of rarity as to prove some immunity or protection, indicates the incapacity for dealing with what is a purely statistical question.’ Yet so imbued is medical orthodoxy with the immunity-theory that we recall a doctor laying down the law on this subject even though his own daughter had recently died of a third attack of scarlet fever”.

She then gives reems of late C19th statistics showing diseases like smallpox increasing amongst groups who had been vaccinated.

It’s a defence system – a very complex and precious one – but not an immune system.

On a different matter, well, guess what?…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67550483

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 29, 2023 3:27 PM
Reply to  Edwige

I want to emphasize it was not US nor the British who gave the natives blankets with small pox notwithstanding what anyone says.

We gave them clean blankets for free out of goodness, whereafter they infested the blankets themselves with small pox because of their own dirtiness and filthy lives.
It was not us!
We didnt do it to get hold of their land, and their gas and oil resources.
They did it.

Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine
Nov 29, 2023 8:19 PM
Reply to  Edwige

I think that microbes do cause a variety of diseases. These diseases can be exacerbated by other health conditions, such as state of immunity and toxins, but the diseases are initiated by the microbes. I guess I’m just crazy.

gordan
gordan
Nov 29, 2023 2:30 PM
Reply to  Antonym

“Believing that a Virus attacks a cell and forces the cell to reproduce the Virus until the cell explodes, is like believing that an ant bites and elephant and forces the elephant to reproduce the ant until the elephant explodes.”

The Myth Of Contagion, a discussion with T.C. Fry

https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=_-_HoE-dRv0

Anarchos
Anarchos
Nov 29, 2023 2:59 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Unlike other systems in the body described by biology, which are generally groups of specific organs dedicated to a specific function -(e.g. circulatory, respiratory, digestive, lymphatic systems)- the immune system is just a model, a theory of health and disease.

ariel
ariel
Nov 30, 2023 7:19 PM
Reply to  Antonym

People misunderstand. It’s not an ‘immune system’ as such. The first thing is that it cannot be ‘meaningfully isolated.’ It is a significant part of the overall human CONTEXT. Which functions as a whole, homeostatically regulated.
Call it a ‘love-positivity system’ or something equivalent. It’s the bit that relates to and reacts to how much love and appreciation you have for LIFE.
It is no wonder that they are doing their best to wreck it.
The body reacts to complex stimuli, and shows you what is wrong with how you are going about your life. If you know how to read/ interpret it. We don’t seem to be so curious if it seems like nothing’s wrong.
Nothing can go wrong until the moment it breaks down,’ As one of my songs puts it. ‘You are not a MACHINE.’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5JnkJfYSvw
Life as a carcrash.’I was going too fast. I couldn’t slow down.’ etc. etc.
AIDS is a complex issue. Read Kari Mullis on the subject. He wanted to TV debate Gallo, Montagnier and Fauci (and sue them) for misuse of PCR back in the 80s. They wouldn’t come near exposure, and Gallo (I think) and Montagnier got Nobel Prizes, of course. ‘De rigueur.’ But he got one too.

ariel
ariel
Nov 30, 2023 7:22 PM
Reply to  ariel

The City of London, DC and Vatican City are ‘immune.’

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Nov 28, 2023 5:57 PM

CDC data confirms only one person per million jabbed accrues any benefit.
Sad to think how many have died and been maimed to protect that one person…

Rob
Rob
Nov 28, 2023 6:19 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Even that’s a lie… It’s at most, not effective at all. At worst, causes injury and or death

Big Al
Big Al
Nov 29, 2023 4:17 AM
Reply to  Rob

How can it be “at most, not effective at all”, if there is no Covid-19?

Anarchos
Anarchos
Nov 29, 2023 3:11 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Best case scenario, it has no effect, good or bad- that’s what Rob meant. And hopefully this is the case with the majority of jabbed victims apparently not dying or crippled- so far.
I suspect many will die of cancer, heart failures and “auto-immune diseases” some years later when people are not thinking about these jabs. The mRNA -DNA meddling has likely long term consequences. Becasue the deaths are spread out over time and seem to occur randomly, most people don’t make a connection.
It would be morbidly interesting to track the rate of heart disease among younger age groups where it’s not traditionally common.

MattC
MattC
Nov 29, 2023 8:00 AM
Reply to  Rob

On the contrary – it has been enormously successful…..at making little Billy Gates even wealthier. Is he even faintly concerned about side effects? Of course not as he would never accept such unproven experimental drugs so that’s all right then.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Nov 28, 2023 6:42 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

What benefit could there be when there is no proof that the alleged pathogen even exists?

Big Al
Big Al
Nov 28, 2023 7:55 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

It’s like an Abbott and Costello skit. “The virus that isn’t a virus is not as bad as they say because it doesn’t even exist, and the fake vaccine is not very effective because there is no virus for it to be effective against and it isn’t even a vaccine because it’s fake”. Well, I can see why some people still get confused.

underground poet
underground poet
Nov 28, 2023 9:50 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Well they are not as confused at the morgue, since the vaccine, unusual strings of white material are being found in body’s and thus while still alive, are hindering the flow blood in the patient, which then translates to more secret suffering as everyone tells you there is nothing wrong with you, just go about your day.

In the back of their mind, they don’t believe it.

ariel
ariel
Nov 30, 2023 7:23 PM
Reply to  Big Al

But not funny!

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 29, 2023 6:04 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Before the issue of pathogen comes that of the disease: what exactly is it? Why was all treatment of flu and pneumonia disallowed in 2020, and patients barred from seeking treatment until they were critically ill? Why did the authorities make efforts to reduce hospital capcity? Why has the discretion of doctors in treatment totally disallowed?

ariel
ariel
Nov 30, 2023 7:34 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Because flu and pneumonia were being repackaged and rebranded to enable the pandemic which was the second change in the meaning of the word ‘pandemic’ to enable them to declare it on, basically, no evidence. And kill people with ventilators, midazolam and morphine. Add the vaxx shots, when they were ready. And make lots and lots of money.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 28, 2023 9:31 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

These “authorities”, the CDC, are habitual liars and deceivers.

Example:
CDC Quietly Removes Website Headline Claiming “Vaccines Do Not Cause Autism”Government finally makes necessary change after failing to provide adequate evidence in court to support their claim

By NWO Report
Global Research, January 25, 2021
NWO Report 24 January 2021

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has removed a headline from its website claiming that “vaccines do not cause autism” following a legal challenge questioning that assertion.

The change was quietly made last August, with no announcement, following a lengthy legal battle with the group Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) that began in 2017.

The Institute of Medicine concluded that it could not identify a single study to support that DTaP does not cause autism. Instead, the only relevant study the IOM could identify found an association between DTaP and autism.

___________

Or this: CDC REMOVES 150K DEATHS & REACTIONS FROM VAERS SYSTEM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rD2lIVQw65Nj/

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Nov 29, 2023 1:54 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

And 1 person in 800 jabs dies from the “vaccine.”

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 28, 2023 5:50 PM

I find all things Russian very confusing. Waggaman write from official sources but I am not sure whether this gives a correct picture of the real situation.

For example Martyanov and Ritter write about the superior Russian army winning everything in Ukraine and chess mate NATO.
Waggaman and his related write about the Russian army in poor condition, always lacking ammunition, clumsy conditions.
So what is right.

Same with the Covid bs. Russian army telling a plausible story about the Democrats manufacturing the virus in military labs in Ukraine, and Riley story telling Kremlin are laying flat to be involved with Big Western Pharma.

Maybe both stories are right. But if, then what is the big picture?
Some tells me the difference is that Russia and China dont use bombs, torture prisons and force to meet the goal of a new world order of an entire global vaccinated population.
Same shit, but different ways to get there?

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Nov 28, 2023 6:40 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

“..global vaccinated population” is a wretched, dangerous goal. It’s 4IR. The coercion is quite blatant.

charles kint
charles kint
Nov 28, 2023 9:27 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

may be if you just turn every thing upside down ( like in the woke west) , you get the real truth

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Nov 28, 2023 5:38 PM

It all comes down to the problem of how to give people the immunity they’d get if they got an infection from the disease without them actually having to suffer the risks and potential damage from the disease.

(To people who say “What disease? Its all a fiction….” I’d answer “Well, tell me what hospitalized a friend a few weeks ago. It sounded a bit like flu when she called and cancelled a meeting — she was really sick — but then recovered fairly quickly after being admitted to hospital and pumped full of anti-viral drugs.”**)

I can’t comment on Sputnik because we use primarily Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccines in the US but its likely to be a traditional vaccine produced in the same relatively hit and miss way that we’ve been producing flu vaccines. This would account for why it went from ‘hero’ to ‘zero’ to ‘hero’ — its the way the stuff’s made.

(**One of the side effects of modern vaccine production is that its also capable of producing targeted anti-virals.)

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Nov 28, 2023 5:59 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Your immune system either functions or it doesn’t.
Most of those that died had 3 or 4 comorbidities.
The jabs are a bio weapon.
Democide, power, control and money..

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 28, 2023 7:11 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

“Well, tell me what hospitalized a friend a few weeks ago……..”

A friend of mine died horribly when …….

I knew someone who took the vax and orgasmed ……..

Somebody I bumped into told someone else that he had heard that …………

The old ones are the best!

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Nov 28, 2023 7:53 PM
Reply to  George Mc

An ‘orgasm vax’ ? Does it come with boosters, lots of boosters ?

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 28, 2023 8:17 PM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Well they’ll need to do something to encourage an uptake. Every shot should come with a free plastic trinket that you used to get buried in breakfast cereals. Or something.

Danny O'Thebes
Danny O'Thebes
Nov 29, 2023 9:37 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Kinder Vax Surprise Eggs?

Four words and a question mark…..PENDING!

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Nov 29, 2023 12:34 PM
Reply to  Danny O'Thebes

You have never commented here before (under this ID anyway). First comments are held for approval as a basic precaution against spambots spewing out multiple posts from different unique IDs

Anarchos
Anarchos
Nov 29, 2023 3:19 PM

LOL

Danny O'Thebes
Danny O'Thebes
Dec 1, 2023 9:05 AM

I don’t comment very often but this is the only ID I have so it looks like something has gone awry. I think my last comment was in reply to George Mc’s vessel with the pestle, chalice from the palace remark, a few weeks ago. But thanks anyway. ;~)

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 1, 2023 9:23 AM
Reply to  Danny O'Thebes

Many expect to have their cake and eat it, and want their alt news on a high budget website with all the trimmings. Of course, we’d immediately be called controlled if we had that lol.

I do wish we could offer a slicker service, but it’s not really possible on a next-to-nothing budget. My advice (given in vain very possibly lol) try to see it as a badge of legitimacy. Enjoy commenting. A2

Danny O'Thebes
Danny O'Thebes
Dec 1, 2023 9:41 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Sam, Sophie reckoned I hadn’t posted before, at least with this ID, but this is the only ID I have and I have posted with it before, albeit not very often. The pending issue is mentioned regularly by some of your most prominent posters and whilst I’m very grateful for OffG in general, and even though I know why it exists, the pending thing is still a pain in the erse. That’s all. I don’t want any cake or badges, thanks. D1

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 1, 2023 10:11 AM
Reply to  Danny O'Thebes

Yeah it happens, I’ll look into it if I have a moment. Often it works itself out in its own, after a bit. Thanks for your patience, and remember to pick up a free legitimacy badge on the way out. 😅

Danny O'Thebes
Danny O'Thebes
Dec 2, 2023 9:35 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Badges? We aint got no badges! We don’t got to show you no stinking badges! ;~)

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 28, 2023 9:38 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Good health, immunity to disease, does not have to be ‘given’ to people by any authority.
We are all responsible for our own good health. Disease develops from within, not from the outside, except when inadvertently or deliberately poisoned from the outside.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Nov 29, 2023 1:27 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

I have not met or heard one single reliable story about someone who got the Covid virus, only mysterious rumours.
But have met many people near me who were tested and diagnosed with Covid AFTER the vaccine, and all tells me about 2-3 days with unpleasant respiration, fever, flue symptoms.

The media is telling about the many who statistically were tested positive, and the side effects of the vaccine are shown in photos on various sites (global research example).
Very rarely they tell about real people in person who got the virus before the vaxx.

So, I really knew and know nothing. But I knew and know how to save myself from all this bs.

Anarchos
Anarchos
Nov 29, 2023 3:18 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

I can’t comment on Sputnik

Ahh, damn, Martin, I was desperaterly waiting for your comment on Sputnik for all these 3 years- and i am not alone in this! What a cliff hanger!

because we use primarily Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccines in the US

No doubt there is much talk in the US of A on the superiority of the OG mRNA developers over the Russian cheap imitation! It’s like those Skoda and Lada cars isn’t it?

Willem
Willem
Nov 28, 2023 5:17 PM

Public health=stuff that you need for finals…

An inside joke from amateur transplants that you might like if you had to pass these exams yourself…

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4steu

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Nov 28, 2023 5:13 PM

Stop taking these dangerous “vaccines”. They don’t work and wreck your immune system, it was a con trick right from the get go. Doctors are nothing but glorified drug pushers and for the most part don’t actually cure anything, they’ll do anything for filthy lucre.

May Hem
May Hem
Nov 28, 2023 7:47 PM
Reply to  Cloverleaf

The doctor’s creed ……”every patient cured is a customer lost”.

The ancient Chinese got it right – the doctors were paid only if people stayed healthy. Now, we pay doctors/health industry more, the sicker we are.

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Nov 28, 2023 9:07 PM
Reply to  May Hem

I couldn’t agree with you more.