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Do Trump, Netanyahu, and Their Ilk Believe They Are Virtuous?

Edward Curtin

That the United States of America is controlled by a criminally perverse, two party ruling class should be obvious to any reasonable (not rational, for the above-named people are very rational) person not living in what Jean-Paul Sartre, the French existential writer, called bad faith (mauvaise foi).

Bad faith is based on Sartre’s premise that people are radically free despite social and biological constraints; in each person’s consciousness they sense this but choose to play games, to perform for themselves and others, and to act as if they have no choices when they do. They deny their freedom.

This is not lying but a form of self-deception since one cannot lie to oneself for “the one to whom the lie is told and the one who lies are one and the same person, which means that I must know in my capacity as a deceiver the truth which is hidden from me in my capacity as the one deceived,” writes Sartre.

This should be so obvious but it escapes most people who imbibe psychobabble.

Lying is different since it involves other people. “The essence of the lie implies in fact that the liar actually is in complete possession of the truth which he is hiding,” added Sartre. This cynical consciousness that knows the truth but denies it to others is a perfect description of  politicians, propagandists, intelligence services, and their media mouthpieces.

They know they are lying and are proud of it, but of course they will never admit it. Regular people also lie regularly but with not the same tremendous social consequences.

People often say that certain people really believes their own lies, that they are deluded, but this is impossible.

I begin with this brief excursion into philosophy (and psychology) because I recently read a fine journalist, Patrick Lawrence, in an otherwise excellent article – “Trump, Bibi, and Ayn Rand’s ghost” – write the following about war criminals Trump and Netanyahu’s recent dinner meeting in which  Netanyahu shows Trump a letter he wrote nominating Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, that Medea Benjamin of Code Pink rightly called “surreal” [my emphasis]:

We must reason through the matter such that we are able to recognize that these two appalling men were serious in their self-congratulation. The idea of themselves they presented before the media cameras is to them genuine: They sincerely understand themselves in this way—virtuous, courageous, standing heroically alone, bearing the world’s banner forward.

Of what are such people made? This is our question. Attempting our answer leads us beyond politics and policy and into the spheres of psychology and pathology. I have long contended that any true understanding of global affairs cannot leave out consideration of the mental and emotional makeup of those who, for better or worse, are in positions of leadership. The Israeli PM, a case in point, exhibits clear symptoms of clinical psychosis if by this we mean a frayed relationship with reality.

Now Patrick Lawrence most forcefully and eloquently often condemns Trump and Netanyahu and their ilk as the genocidal war criminals that they are. Because I admire his work so much, I hesitate to pick up on his point about their sincerity, but I think it is essential to do so because of its wider implications.

Sartre claimed “sincerity,” purportedly the anti-thesis of self-deception, takes one deeper into self-deception. It goes to Patrick’s  question of what are such people made, of what are we all made; it goes behind psychology to its philosophical presuppositions and beyond the issue of pathology to a theological analysis of evil.

While Lawrence’s analysis is focused not on these matters but on Ayn Rand’s influence on Trump, Netanyahu, and the wider individualistic culture – an astute analysis – it respectfully needs an a priori corrective.

I maintain that not for a second do Trump and Netanyahu believe they are genuine or virtuous or believe their own lies. They are the perfect examples of hypocrites, as in the word’s etymological sense of stage actor; pretender, dissembler, from the Greek hypokritēs. To repeat: it is impossible to believe one’s own lies since one knows they are not the truth one withholds.

Since it is obvious from their own words and actions and can be followed in real time video by any concerned person that they enthusiastically support the genocide of the Palestinians without an iota of compunction, can we say they are mentally ill?

I think not. That would suggest that if in some alternative universe they were tried for their crimes and convicted, they should be sent to a mental institution, not a prison, because they are sick.

They are far beyond sick and are the current examples of their nations’ predecessors’ support for massive war crimes for a very long time. Both the U.S.A. and Zionist Israel were founded on similar claims of being  God-ordained countries that hid the satanic violence they used against native peoples and anyone who dared to suggest God was not on their sides.

Are they, as Lawrence says of Netanyahu, out of touch with reality? I think not. In any case, whose reality? Those in power, with the corporate mass media and tech companies as accomplices, create their own reality, as in the famous quote attributed to a George W. Bush aid by Ron Suskind: “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.”

This is even truer today with the use of artificial Intelligence. Their reality is not yours, mine, or Patrick Lawrence’s. Their facts are not ours.

In any case, to suggest Netanyahu is out of touch with “reality” would suggest mental illness, not evil intent. Sartre would say that to do so is to excuse him, which is clearly not Patrick’s intention. The result, however, of saying that Netanyahu and Trump sincerely think of themselves as genuine does exactly that.

One can, of course, reject Sartre’s philosophical premise about freedom, bad faith, and lying in favor of psychological and biological explanations. This is the modern approach, which is commonplace. It assumes much. It needs to be understood within the historical context of the decline of religion and the rise of science, modernism, and post-modernism. It is not scientific, however, but pseudo-scientific, and delusional on its own claims to being scientific. I maintain that it fails to comprehend the nature of evil.

But like Sartre and Dostoevsky, I too believe we are fundamentally free. Which is not to say we are not confronted with biological and social limitations on that freedom. We are. But fundamentally we have free will.

In the ancient tragedy Oedipus Rex, known in its Greek original as Oedipus Tyrannus, Oedipus commits two heinous acts: he kills his father and marries his mother. He commits crimes against society and sins against the gods. But he does so unknowingly, unconsciously, as the play makes clear.

Throughout the Western world in morality and law it has become accepted, as Aristotle argues in his Ethics, that consciousness and will are necessary for acts to be ethically bad or good.

If Netanyahu, Trump, and their ilk (to be clear, by ilk I mean Biden and former U.S. presidents and Israeli prime ministers before Netanyahu) are not conscious but believe they are being virtuous by mass murdering Palestinians and so many others, then they, like Oedipus, deserve sympathy. For they know not what they do. But they clearly know, so they deserve no sympathy. They deserve condemnation.

What could possess them, and all the other political leaders, to commit mass murder over and over again while reveling in their “accomplishments,” and to speak casually about using nuclear weapons? For that is what they do.

I should emphasize that I am not referring to individuals who commit murder and other horrible crimes but to political leaders backed by millions of supporters. Institutional leaders who quite rationally sit in offices discussing the best methods for slaughtering millions.

Why do they act this way? Why did Hitler? Harry Truman with Hiroshima and Nagasaki? George W. Bush with Iraq? You know all the names, or should. They are legion, as are the statistics. The demonic nature of U.S. history from the start is there for all to contemplate, as the late theologian David Ray Griffin has documented in a number of books. No amount of feigned amnesia will erase the bloody truth of American history, the cheap grace we bestow upon ourselves. It is demonic, as is the history of Zionism in Palestine.

So we are left with the question that has engaged people for millennia: What is the nature of evil? The demonic? While not here entering into a long analysis of this question, I will cast my vote with those, such as Soren Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Herman Melville, et al., who have claimed it goes much deeper than psychological sickness to a spiritual level and that the Enlightenment’s error was that it lacked a devil.

Satan is hard character to fathom, but when he is strutting his stuff, the consequences of his evil are blatantly real in the actions of those who have sold their souls for his favors.

In Melville’s Moby Dick the possessed Ahab says to Starbuck and to us:

Ahab is forever Ahab, man. This whole act is immutably decreed. ‘T’was rehearsed by thee and me a billion years before this ocean rolled. Fool! I am the Fates’ lieutenant, I act under orders.

The same clarity of mind and will can be said of Trump, Netanyahu, and their ilk. They know from whence their orders come; they echo Ahab’s words that “from hell’s heart” and “for hate’s sake” they will kill the innocent and exult in the slaughter.

God and Satan battle on.

Edward Curtin: Sociologist, researcher, poet, essayist, journalist, novelist….writer – beyond a cage of categories. His new book is AT THE LOST AND FOUND: Personal & Political Dispatches of Resistance and Hope (Clarity Press)

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Stebe H
Stebe H
Jul 28, 2025 9:53 PM

These types of articles are pure distraction. Quit playing games and get to both the core of the problem and the f-ing solution. You, yourself writing this distracting article have engaged in “psychobabble” Look out…shark attack
1-we live in a fake consciousness, constructed by jews. We are atomized into little plato caves we call individualism. This all has been weaponized against us and harnessed into endless debts for endless war, as our country follows a pattern of exploitation and collapse. This pattern goes back at least to roman times.
2-The 20th century Germans discovered the solution to this massive psyop and built the national socialist party. we need to do the same and very quickly. all parties in control positions, are psychopathic mass murderers and must go, very quickly before they wipe us all out. what are you waiting for? Vote NS

Theobalt
Theobalt
Jul 29, 2025 9:49 PM
Reply to  Stebe H

At this point in my life (61)… can’t argue with you… I’m 140 IQ… I know they’ll throw stones at me, but after a time… I’ll come back and see it changed…

Everybody is racist, that’s the human way… doesn’t mean we want to hurt people though

mik
mik
Jul 28, 2025 7:29 PM

“If Netanyahu, Trump, ……are not conscious but believe they are being virtuous by mass murdering ….. then they, like Oedipus, deserve sympathy. For they know not what they do. But they clearly know, so they deserve no sympathy. ”

As a matter of fact, they know what they are doing. I suppose (don’t know what is brewing in those rotten heads) that doesn’t mean much because they ascribe different meanings to the facts. Scumbags likely have very different worldview, essentials of it are based on faith. Recently I wrote on this topic:
https://off-guardian.org/2025/07/16/the-experiment-of-representative-democracy-has-failed-whats-next/#comment-727455
Scumbags’ worldview is wrong, bad, still it allows and enables them to do what they do.
Scumbags also endorse Machiavelli: a leader must be able to commit the worse things, if a situation requires.

I believe in free will, but according to the worst case in Milgram’s experiment only 10% of the people involved possessed effective free will. They were the Ubermenschen I would say.
I think the biggest Enlightenment’s error is dismissal of faith, I mean it in a secular sense, not exclusively in a religious sense. We all have a worldview, our basic beliefs. We can’t have sound arguments for all of them, we can’t go down the path of infinite regress. Faith is the solution.

I’m not concerned with badness, evil, Satan. Fuck them.
My contemplation is devoted to goodness. Lack of goodness makes place for badness. Lao-Tzu nailed it perfectly (Tao Te Ching 38):

When the Tao is lost, there is goodness.
When goodness is lost, there is morality.
When morality is lost, there is ritual.
Ritual is the husk of true faith,
the beginning of Chaos.

Where are we now?
We have some rituals, elections for example. Well, even people who went to elections didn’t go to choose the good they believe in, they went mostly to choose the lesser evil. Majority of voters in the latest American elections didn’t vote at all, so actually, the orange one wouldn’t have a mandate, if there were any Justice!
We barely have a semblance of rituals, in many people faith is confined to unconsciousness…. I hope we won’t descent into Chaos.

P.S.
To anyone who might have read me as an apologist…..bibi the evil deserves a capital punishment and I would be willing to join a lottery for assembling the firing squad immediately, no mater that I might suffer from ptsd later. No mercy for a living satan.

Pat Fahy
Pat Fahy
Jul 28, 2025 12:36 PM

We the people are responsible.

Lu1
Lu1
Jul 28, 2025 11:09 PM
Reply to  Pat Fahy

True.

You are not one one of the 95.00001%

?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 29, 2025 10:12 PM
Reply to  Lu1

No.

Lu1
Lu1
Jul 29, 2025 11:23 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Vok knows what you are. In any case you need a google upgrade, your interrupt handling routine is buggered.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 30, 2025 2:32 AM
Reply to  Lu1

I am just using my free speech. We are living in a free society and not in your Sovjet pagan paradise where all churches are burned down to the ground..

Lu1
Lu1
Jul 30, 2025 2:34 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

We are living in a free society

Jaysus, nobody put out of care home work in your neck of the woods for not having been vaxxed or beaten to death by the Indian Police on their forced march home out of the cities when lockdown was announced

The only way that a final war is around the corner is if automation renders your socail credit score as nothing and the 95% of a-holes are starved still mumbling MAGA and kumbaya my lord with their last breath.

If, again, nearly miraculously, the just less than 5% can survive until after that then, numerically, we are in a much stronger position to win the war.

You and the parochial, silly little strings they use to pull the 95%, with a reversed moral compass onboard, along (including religion and nationalism) must be wiped out to provide us the slightest of chances.

Let’s face it, your preferred psycho innocent child killing deity hates most of human free speech so much that it, allegedly, banishes most of them for that to hell for eternity.

If it’s good enough for your preferrred psycho deity it should be good enough for you too  😂  😂 

landy
landy
Jul 28, 2025 8:55 AM

What the people who voted them in?

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 28, 2025 8:02 AM

Graud:

“‘Really cautious’: why the ICJ is delaying a Gaza genocide verdict

While Palestinians starve and global opinion hardens, judgment from international court may not come until 2027 – or later”

2027 eh? Gosh. Just think of what will inevitably happen in the meantime.

“I think [the ICJ is] being really cautious here because of the political climate….They don’t want to be accused of just running roughshod over Israel’s procedural rights and finding that it’s committed genocide without fully giving them an opportunity to respond.”

Oh yes let’s fret about Israel’s procedural rights!

“A range of factors could drag the case into 2028 …..”

Oh no doubt. All the minutiae of legal procedure must ooze along continental drift style.

“In January last year the ICJ ruled that the claim of genocide was “plausible””

Oh let’s not be hasty now! “Plausible” is a very strong word and may even be antisemitic!

We must take a very long philosophical course in which to build a couple of libraries examining nuance and …..

Oh too late! The Palestinians have all been killed! Ah well never mind. We can now spend as long as you like over what might and could and should have been done!

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 28, 2025 11:07 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And you won’t hear about it 80 years later either.

antonym
antonym
Jul 28, 2025 7:19 AM

Do Obama, Starmer, Macron, Merz and their ilk think they are virtuous?

antonym
antonym
Jul 28, 2025 7:24 AM
Reply to  antonym

Obama directed the Russia! hoax around Trump according to DNI Tusli Gabbard. He was/is allowed anything by the “Left” and their MSM. Libya, Syria anywhere any time, also in domestic elections.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 28, 2025 2:25 AM

Again. All the blame on the Piper. Poor poor small boys.
You refused The Saviour when he was here. You assassinated too all the colourful men who took upon themselves to improve the conditions for their countrymen, and now you are crybaby about the rest who is left. comment image

mik
mik
Jul 28, 2025 3:05 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

What a disgusting preaching.

Lu1
Lu1
Jul 28, 2025 9:49 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

You refused The Saviour when he was here.

About the only decent thing the a-holes have eve done.

BTW, great picture of the 95% following the 0.00001% – I guess sheep taste better than rats but, with a slow cooker and a little more patience, who knows.

The rats have started to dress and behave exactly like sheep.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 28, 2025 11:19 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

I cant understand why 98% of all people are considered acting like rats or sheep, and only a President is considered responsible for the actions of the 98%.

But you tell me you cant do anything else, and you cant do anything, and you cant say anything…other than he did legally what you did, and that HE should be in prison.. 😭 …and you should not ??

Lu1
Lu1
Jul 29, 2025 11:28 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Just because they follow doesn’t mean that they aren’t responsible or guilty – they are.

For the first time ever, you might just be right at the 98% a-hole level though.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 28, 2025 12:47 AM

Again Bonhoeffer’s theory of stupidity (wilful ignorance) comes to mind:

https://sproutsschools.com/bonhoeffers-theory-of-stupidity/

Salmon of Knowledge
Salmon of Knowledge
Jul 27, 2025 10:42 PM

Trump, Netanyahu, and Their Ilk are the perpetrators of vile murder and genocide, without compunction. Psychopaths. They know what they do, and they still do it willingly… Why? Is it for a sheer joy of creating destruction and dismemberment of society? Is it out of hatred for concepts of peace and love? Or is is for power, control, and wealth? And if so, who are those behind them who grant them power, control, and wealth?
Are they perhaps the big bankers who have wreaked havoc on society for centuries, installing and deposing rulers, and ripping nations apart as they see fit? Never getting blood on their own hands, but always finding psychopaths to do that for them…. They are all equally culpable…. Until we tear down the system that allows this endless repetitive cycle of violence, we are doomed…
I want to believe that because war and hate are obviously possible, that also means that love and peace is equally possible….

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Jul 27, 2025 8:52 PM

Arguing with reason to change insanity is like yelling map co-ordinates to direct a cloud.

correspondencecommitttee
correspondencecommitttee
Jul 27, 2025 8:35 PM

I believe in the supreme worth of the individual and in his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.I believe that every right implies a responsibility; every opportunity, an obligation; every possession, a duty.I believe that the law was made for man and not man for the law; that government is the servant of the people and not their master.I believe in the dignity of labor, whether with head or hand; that the world owes no man a living but that it owes every man an opportunity to make a living.I believe that thrift is essential to well-ordered living and that economy is a prime requisite of a sound financial structure, whether in government, business or personal affairs.I believe that truth and justice are fundamental to an enduring social order.I believe in the sacredness of a promise, that a man’s word should be as good as his bond, that character—not wealth or power or position—is of supreme worth.I believe that the rendering of useful service is the common duty of mankind and that only in the purifying fire of sacrifice is the dross of selfishness consumed and the greatness of the human soul set free.I believe in an all-wise and all-loving God, named by whatever name, and that the individual’s highest fulfillment, greatest happiness and widest usefulness are to be found in living in harmony with His will.I believe that love is the greatest thing in the world; that it alone can overcome hate; that right can and will triumph over might.—John D. Rockefeller

Don’t listen to what they’re saying. Look, and see, what they’re doing. What do I care if monsters know whether or not they’re lying. I know they are. And if you do, too, the truth is we best get off our asses to take these assholes down. What’s the nature of evil? They’re showing us every day.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Jul 27, 2025 8:53 PM

The nature of evil is that there is no evil.

mik
mik
Jul 27, 2025 10:55 PM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

The ultimate satan’s achievement is convincing the people he doesn’t exist

Brianbero
Brianbero
Jul 28, 2025 12:08 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

Evidence!

Lu1
Lu1
Jul 28, 2025 11:16 PM
Reply to  Brianbero

The evidence is that you worship an innocent child killing deity.

Psycho.

Brianbero
Brianbero
Jul 28, 2025 11:24 PM
Reply to  Lu1

“ The nature of evil..”

My response “ evidence “.

Your evidence “ “ . Nothing new there !

sandy
sandy
Jul 27, 2025 9:39 PM

Yeah, their state of mind is irrelevant. Whatever initiates and perpetuates evil must be stopped. Just common sense for common adults. When everyone realizes they are adults and are do equal authority then the “thought leaders” will be retired permanently. So simple.

Aloysius
Aloysius
Jul 27, 2025 8:04 PM

Both men are puppets. Puppets don’t have feeleens. Ask the question of the ineffably rich people who cannot be named, who direct all the genocides, and who hold their strings.

sandy
sandy
Jul 27, 2025 6:23 PM

Here’s a mirror of Curtin’s point… the ultimate in hypocrisy…

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valkrie
valkrie
Jul 27, 2025 9:31 PM
Reply to  sandy

How old is Pelosi now?

sandy
sandy
Jul 27, 2025 9:34 PM
Reply to  valkrie

85, going on 150.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 28, 2025 2:11 AM
Reply to  sandy

Lie! Caught you,an ordinary citizen, in a lie.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 30, 2025 2:25 AM
Reply to  sandy

If Trump can make Pelosi collapsing that way, he is maybe no that bad as people say?

sandy
sandy
Jul 30, 2025 8:19 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Let’s face it, there’s none of these elites that are any better than the other. It’s like Devil vs Vampire. We need to lock ’em all out of the fun zone they occupy.

sandy
sandy
Jul 27, 2025 5:55 PM

I think we need to evolve past watching evil happen, transacted by those who are supposedly “representatives” of the public. If we know evil is happening, regardless of sociopathy, psychopathy or convoluted legal or linguistic rationalizations/reasonings, this must be unacceptable and immediately placed in remedy. I do not care what the problem is with any of these human beings. Whether psycho or consciously evil is irrelevant. Our real root problem in a republic is the interpretation and unwritten contractual assumptions of the public, in regards to the actions of the elected and their appointees. There is no public mechanism to rectify evil gov’t acts, which are now happening minute by minute in every aspect of activity. The public is powerless to effect non-consent.

I am sitting here this Sunday morning listening to CBS Face the Nation Margaret Brennan pin to the floor Democrat Maryland Senator Van Hollen in regards to the horrific hypocrisy of funding Israel to genocide starving Gazans. This reality of evil activity is not new and the engine of it, funding the militarization of Israel, has gone on possibly since 1948. Here is a Democrat evil tag team member, holding court for rationalized genocide, and the public, watching, listening and seeing evil can do nothing to stop it. Impeach? Impeach who? The entire system is the problem. Somehow the public needs to grab a hold of their adult selves and assert our equal authority to decide a cessation of evil gov’t acts.

As an artist, Andres Serrano is doing noble work presenting the obvious exceptionalism (anything we do is fine) of Trump being merely a mirror of standard American exceptionalism on gilded pavilion for all the world to contemplate.

https://hyperallergic.com/1029722/andres-serrano-proposes-trump-altar-for-the-venice-biennale/

We here in this country see it everyday, in every way. The Hyperallergic above article’s author even misses Serrano’s everyday obviousness of royal platforming American empire as, “uncritical” and “flattering”. Serrano’s work of late has been under attack by the woke side of the art world for his platforming of Trump’s image wizardry, and J6, via his documentary film, which one cannot find to watch anywhere. That J6 film, I am guessing because I grok Serrano, documents America in the 21st C. When is blindness to non-partisan evil going to come to public discussion, debate and rectification, not contained and controlled by our imperial “thought leader” 1% elite?

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Jul 27, 2025 8:53 PM
Reply to  sandy

When you decide.

sandy
sandy
Jul 27, 2025 9:32 PM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

I’ve already decided. I need a whole lot of company. How about you?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 28, 2025 11:55 PM
Reply to  sandy

We are behind you all the way.

sandy
sandy
Jul 29, 2025 12:29 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

🙂 🙂 🙂

I_Left_the_Left
I_Left_the_Left
Jul 27, 2025 5:30 PM

Some geat points but Edward Curtin still refuses to see the US and its political elite as Zionist puppets.

Aloysius
Aloysius
Jul 27, 2025 8:01 PM

Then what good is he.

sandy
sandy
Jul 29, 2025 12:34 AM

Oh yeah. Just like Great Britain is still overlord of the US. The US is THE Empire on this planet and everyone bows to it, particularly Israel, unless it does something we don’t like. Tells us a lot about what our Empire likes. Like genocide. If we turned away from Israel, they’re dust and they know it. They just keep doing whatever they can get away with, which at this point seems anything.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 27, 2025 5:06 PM

Would you be able to do what they do? They know full well what they’re doing.

I don’t believe in Satan or God, so I don’t buy the spiritual, demonic angle. A certain percentage of humans have personality disorders, always have and always will, imo. In that sense, I don’t think they are any different than other mass murderers, serial killers, serial rapists, etc. Ask yourself if you could do what they do. I know I couldn’t. Could I have been trained from birth to do the things they do? I don’t know. I know that now, knowing what I know, I couldn’t. And I don’t think I ever could have. But it has to take a certain type of abhorrent personality, however achieved, to do those things.

I just read an article about children in Gaza suffering so greatly, starving, that some say “at least in heaven, there will be food”.

Fuck Trump and Netanyahoo, and all their ilk. There’s no equivocation to what they’re doing. It is evil. But it ain’t Satan or demons. It’s psycho humans who should be hung by the neck til dead, like any mass murderer.

Psychopath: “A person having an egocentric and antisocial personality marked by a lack of remorse for one’s actions, an absence of empathy for others, and often criminal tendencies.”

Sociopath: “A person who is completely unable or unwilling to behave in a way that is acceptable to society; a person with a personality disorder that leads to aggressive, violent, or unpleasant behavior towards others; a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

Sociopaths and psychopaths lack empathy for others, but they differ in impulsivity, relationships, conscience, and emotion. Of the two, psychopathy is generally seen to be a more severe condition than sociopathy, but there is much overlap between the two.”

What’s the Difference Between a Psychopath and a Sociopath?

Paul
Paul
Jul 27, 2025 7:01 PM

So what do you believe in, Darwinian evolution?

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 29, 2025 12:05 AM
Reply to  Paul

People like AA dont be believe in anything spiritual but the daily problems to get around life.

They have some case, because surely there is enough to battle with during the days of a short life if we want to get it all inclusive; wife, husband, children, family, job, house, friends and holiday.

Maybe we are a little decadence we the believers, us who demand more than the daily troubles.

Paul
Paul
Jul 27, 2025 7:02 PM

And if so why bother pondering the meaning of anything, let alone truth? For the evolutionist there is nothing but nihilism.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 27, 2025 9:15 PM
Reply to  Paul

And what about those that believe in made up bullshit like God and Satan? Those that wear robes on their heads, or pretend to speak in tongues, or climb 60 steps to kiss the toe of a supposed statue of “Saint” Peter, or those that profess to be christians but support a genocidal maniac? Does that make them feel life has meaning? Hey, whatever floats your boat, man. I don’t need pretend fairy tales to make my life have meaning.

Lu1
Lu1
Jul 27, 2025 10:06 PM
Reply to  Paul

Would you rather worship a b’stard child killing god.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 29, 2025 10:26 PM
Reply to  Lu1

Do you only have 1 old single record to play again again?comment image .

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 29, 2025 10:28 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Here it is:comment image

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 29, 2025 10:29 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.
Lu1
Lu1
Jul 29, 2025 11:34 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen.

Is that the one of the half million innocent sucklings wailing as YHWH drowned them.

Let’s face it they definitely wouldn’t have been singing “Kumbaya, my lord”

For my name is Holy, er, Holy shit.

Sean
Sean
Jul 27, 2025 11:25 PM

What’s the difference…? None.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 28, 2025 2:14 AM

To answer your last question: Money! Double salary to the shrink. Fixed.

Marb
Marb
Jul 29, 2025 12:01 PM

Unfortunately Psychopaths have driven our so called civilisation to the point its at now .. every step of the way , they Write the Laws and make the rules .

They have created and perpetuate this fake liberal Democrazy which was only ever designed to benefit themselves … they play both sides against the middle , its all fake Left ,Right and everything in between…We cant Vote them out !.. they also own everything in terms of the tools which We use to communicate…

We need Mass revolt , peaceful protest , mass refusal ,continuous rolling strikes , sabotage .. and importantly a critical mass of dissenters … We need to teardown the entire suprastructure including cell phone Towers …massive continuous peaceful Revolt .. The only Question is how … and if not now When?

Raúl Zambrano
Raúl Zambrano
Jul 27, 2025 2:31 PM

What I really sense from this piece is that the author is affraid, very frightened, to take his reflections one step further to its larger meaning, in the very same way he draws from Sartre. I quote Curtin’s quotation of Sartre: “the one to whom the lie is told and the one who lies are one and the same person, which means that I must know in my capacity as a deceiver the truth which is hidden from me in my capacity as the one deceived”.

The larger meaning being that the very societies where these leaders were drawn from really share the evilness he is trying to abscribe exclusively to its leaders.

A lot of people tend to quote some ancient writings typically coming from religious books as a sure explanation of their rightfulness without realizing the evilness of those very same texts. Other people quote previous leaders as if they did not lead their own crimes “because it was in the name of their nation’s greatness”. Raskolnikov writes it clearly: A real ruler, to whom all is permitted, sacks Toulon, butchers in Paris, forgets an army in Egypt, wastes half a million lives in the Moscow campaign, and gets off with a jest in Vilna; and after his death they set up idols to him—and so all is permitted.”

What then, we make of our own societies? Are we not ashamed? Is it any use on being ashamed? Le Guin talks about the ones who leave Omelas but she did not tell us nothing about their whereabouts.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 27, 2025 9:26 PM
Reply to  Raúl Zambrano

If the ones who left Omelas really cared, they would never have left Omelas. They’d have tried to rescue the poor kid who was being abused for the alleged benefit of the community.

Erik Nielsen.
Erik Nielsen.
Jul 29, 2025 12:31 AM
Reply to  George Mc

To free the kid from his misery is a Don Quixote project. It can never succeed.

A try will only result in more suffering for the boy, and result in the end of prosperity for the city because now everybody outside the city will know the hypocrisy and rotten nature of the inhabitants of the city, and turn their anger toward the ones who liberated the child.

The people of the city will be angry, even the child will hate the ones who freed it, because he now really faces his bad fate compared to other children, and people outside the city will also turn their back on the ones who involved him/herself in an act like that as one of those from the city.

And because it is a Don Quixote project, the only solution is to give it the f…finger and leave it behind.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 28, 2025 5:15 AM
Reply to  Raúl Zambrano

PR (propaganda) rules.

Binra
Binra
Jul 27, 2025 1:54 PM

I use this quote as my pinned tweet:

“Lead us not into temptation.”
Temptation is whatever causes you to act unconsciously, without a grounded reference point. It is, as well, whatever you find useful in avoiding honesty, responsibility and Self-respect.
One you use, the other uses you.

Temptation is not evil. It is carelessness. Indulged in, it obscures the truth from you. It keeps you in the dark… or equally, keeps You from being seen.
Temptation is a game of insincerity which two must play quite consciously, a win/win game wherein the tempter and the tempted both become unconscious – self-absorbed and Self-ignored. This is the purpose of the game.

Unconsciousness of Self might well be called attack on Self, and therefore “evil.” But that elevates the “simple carelessness” – which prompted self-absorption – artificially and makes it seem as though there might just be a war of grand dimensions… one between Illusion and Reality. And thus a quest to win the war takes precedence, distracting those involved from simple common sense
– addressing carelessness!

The simple fact, if you acknowledged it, that you are always doing just exactly what you choose to do, would put temptation in its place. It would be seen as an excuse for irresponsibility, dishonesty and lack of Self-respect. And such acknowledgment would halt the game, uncover You to you, and You to all the world.

~ Rajpur

This addresses the terrain that Sartre thinks to rationalise to an individual mind – but there is no such thing -excepting as polarised contra to collective. There are uniquely individual expressions of an Infinite.

What is a “grounded reference point?”.
We might well ask – but not as a mind that already thinks within a frame of Self-evasions and self-absorption.

As the ego represents the imitation of life in image – its devices for ‘grounding’ its reference point reveal as signature deceits – such as directing a fundamental self-hatred to the Other as Evil Cause of grievances BY which to justify attack as a form of love, sanctified, called for, required – sacrifice to the idol of self-vindicating ‘virtue’.

What ARE true virtues but qualities of life extended and share by giving and receiving. What is a mask of virtue but a hypocrite? (orig: actor).
Social masking is a willingness to live a lie for what is believed or perceived gain thereby. Such is the entangled density of masking conflicts, that truth seems dead – and manipulation of perceptions (conditioning thought) seems to be power over life (source of relative -sic, immunity.)

If we do not love what we have made (for whatever reasons) we ‘hate our self’. Now Sartre is right that we CANNOT really hate our self for victim and victimiser are one and the same – but HERE is the gate to Heaven barred and guarded – for while we WANT hate (‘hurtred’) we want to divide and rule and so shall receive in the measure of our giving.

The guilting blame game invokes complex devices by which to buy time against exposure to the undoing of the basis for vengeance acted out on bodies – thus defining life or existence at the level of density and force, Unconscious of underlying and embracing truth as qualities of guidance, balance and direction for unfolding fulfilment of being through the yielding up of ‘rigid structures and identities of control.

Considering the terrain or an embracing indivisible reality from the point of our divisible experience – is caring to be conscious.
Running on surrogate power gives indigenous power to beliefs, ideals or ideologies and systems or models that incorporate them.
Surrogate power can be corrupted.
Indigenous power was You – all along.

It’s hard to reach minds that believe they are in a brain in a body in a world of separate forces and things that embody fear of pain of loss and must therefore WAR against existence as their minds have framed it.

Yet the only obstacle is a willingness to listen.
Active ignorance is masked in asserted and assumed knowledge.

Consider Banksterism – as the complex instrument by which to frame giving and receiving or fair exchange, in privately controlled structures of inequality.
The knowledge base – as assumed and resorted to – is no less corrupted.
Listening or discerning truth is an inner/outer embrace.
The use of the outer as a dumping ground for inner conflict lays waste to our life and our world. Nor is the ‘blame’ deserved as self-guilting denial.
There has to be another way of seeing this or any other situation – and that faith is indigenous to being – not a booster or add-on for a self-doubting evasion or self-responsibility.

Why focus in the ‘machinery of distraction’ when you want the peace that only truth can bring?

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Jul 27, 2025 8:55 PM
Reply to  Binra

Peace occurs when there is no need for the dichotomy inherent in the desire for truth.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jul 27, 2025 1:45 PM

People at that level, it’s never about being virtuous. It’s about being rich and powerful. All the virtue schtick is just lies for show: everyone at that level knows that they’re all pigs with their trotters in the trough.

The rules there are much simpler: human rights only exist for the lawyered up classes. If someone can’t afford to sue you, then you can do whatever you want to them. You can buy off the justice system if they try.

If there’s $1trn in oil/gas plus property development to be made and all it takes is genociding 2 million non-lawyered up olive-grove-tenders, well, that’s just all in the business week. Remember that then the US Constitution was drawn up, it didn’t include human rights for Indians, black people nor slaves. So seeing that document as something special is really reserved for the mentally subnormal.

And just remember, your DNA does not define your right to be ‘an inheritor of the Holy Land’. What matters is your weaponry, your racism and your ability to blackmail paedophiles, criminals and gangsters. It’s particularly important to have the ability to blackmail every US President for a century….

One of these days, Iran is going to finish what Israel started. And when they do, they won’t target the military institutions this time, they’ll target the Jewish homes where Jewish people live. They’ll ensure next time to maximise the deaths of Jews, not the destruction of infrastructure.

They gave Israel their final chance by agreeing to a ceasefire.

And now the Israelis are back at their ‘Palestine will never exist’ schtick and trying to make out that Eretz Yisrael is still on the agenda.

So they blew their final chance……

Aloysius
Aloysius
Jul 27, 2025 8:02 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

I like how you’re thinking.

Birisi
Birisi
Jul 27, 2025 9:18 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Iranians are proud people with dignity. They will never soil their hands by slaughtering defenceless civilians.

A quick solution must be found for Gaza if anyone is to survive there, but Iran will not do the dirty work for us.

Lu1
Lu1
Jul 27, 2025 10:17 PM
Reply to  Birisi

Iranians are proud people with dignity.

Iranians are the same as people from everywhere else, 95% (extremely dangerous) a-holes.

Lu1
Lu1
Jul 27, 2025 10:15 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

One of these days, Iran is going to finish what Israel started.

Do you really think that they can get the population up to the same co-n-vid jabbed rate as in Israel?

Let’s hope so and that its longer term side-effects really are as insidious as what has been bandied about.

If there were 95% less left from both it would be a terrific beginning.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 28, 2025 5:32 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

The sustained military crisis in Israel helps the leader to stay out of jail, and maybe keep his loot. In addressing him, the language is invariably polite, even on genocide by starvation, thirst and exposure.

In comparison, the ex-comedian traitor with no legal authority sustaining the military crisis in Ukraine is a clear winner. He seems to have made far more money in a few years, stashed abroad, and his generals are livid with envy. Few people raise the issue of deaths (civilian and military), the flight of refugees and the burden on neighbours. This leader has just “requested” for a few more billion dollars in military aid. The Insane Empire has succeeded in messing EU well.

Republicofscotland
Republicofscotland
Jul 27, 2025 12:50 PM

For me both men are egotistical sociopaths – with Netanyahu having the added religious delusions, in thinking that the genocide is justified via religion, which he and several of his cabinet members have used to justify it – Trump also has a touch of this if you recall the riots when he lost to Biden, he was waving a bible about – though religious zealots often have no concept of morality – and Trump is a perfect example of this.

kofimoseley
kofimoseley
Jul 27, 2025 12:46 PM

Not having the mass-murdering tool call government is the only solution. Humanity will make an evolutionary step forward and get rid of the institution, or it will be made extinct by it. No third option. Government or survival.

I_Left_the_Left
I_Left_the_Left
Jul 27, 2025 5:28 PM
Reply to  kofimoseley

Is government necessarily and invariably ‘a mass-murdering tool’? Obviously not, says history. Compare the criminal records of the governments of Switzerland and Ireland with those of Israel or the US. So, more analysis of why some governments turn evil is needed.

kofimoseley
kofimoseley
Jul 27, 2025 7:55 PM

Name one that was anything other than a mass-murdering parasite. Name it. It obviously is, says history.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 28, 2025 5:38 AM
Reply to  kofimoseley

Switzerland is neutral and squeaky clean. It takes deposits from anyone anywhere, regardless of how much blood taints the money.

Pluto
Pluto
Jul 27, 2025 12:15 PM

Yes. Everyone lies to a certain extent. Part of human nature in societies. Or presumably anywhere. So no different for power. In fact magnified and part of the job. Deceive the population so they don’t realise what’s really going on. Narrative control.

The lies coming out of the mouth of the abomination that is Netanyahu are an intentionally new low in the controlled communication between power and the people. He being the lead genocider followed by thousands of others including Trump. Day is night, night is day.

They know exactly what they are doing while lying. The planned out goals require it, still.

Pluto
Pluto
Jul 27, 2025 5:48 PM
Reply to  Pluto

Do they consider themselves virtuous in the carnage they create. Absolutely it is possible. The noble lie on steroids. For a chosen few. We did what had to be done for greater Israel. America first. Huntingdon fighting the barbarians. We needed to create reality going forward to stave off complete meaningless. And so better to this in our favour. History actors. The future will judge us kindly says Blair.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 27, 2025 12:03 PM

What is the nature of evil? The demonic?

JFK:

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/address-the-president-and-the-press-before-the-american-newspaper-publishers-association

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Tubber
Tubber
Jul 27, 2025 11:12 AM

Eric B famously had a few thoughts on the process of self deception –

“His mind slid away into the labyrinthine world of doublethink. To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word “doublethink” involved the use of doublethink.”

Binra
Binra
Jul 27, 2025 2:09 PM
Reply to  Tubber

Understanding belongs at the heart.
When the mind serves the heart – you do not confuse the two.
When the mind runs a head of yourself – the conflict and contradiction may at first be put aside or discarded – so as to follow your imagination.
If we persist in valuing private thinking over true context, we develop the means to protect our investment. As the conflict increases thereby, so will our countermeasures.
The belief that you are unfairly treated (victim to the world you see) is fundamental to the active ignorance of your own judgmental framing beliefs of vested identity.
I am not assigning blame here so much as sketching the basis for a self and world ruled by guilting exclusions – masked as caring, protective or power to become reality in your own image.

Nothing new in all of this – and yet ‘behold I make all things new!’ is not just a PASSING momentary escape from Big Brother’s Boot – so as to frame a story of ‘Innocence Lost’ to a ‘machine think’.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 27, 2025 11:02 AM

The delusional are akin to Turds floating in a sewer of hubris and greed.
Let em sink.

Hail
Hail
Jul 27, 2025 10:08 AM

Common denominator ………….

  • white longhaired hippie
  • Towelhead
  • squarehead

abrakadabra-abrahamic
= religion.

Religion explained in 45 seconds…

ariel
ariel
Jul 27, 2025 7:39 PM
Reply to  Hail

I’ve been to the Western(Wailing) Wall. The only place I felt ANY spiritual charge all the time I was in Israel was in the room containing the alleged DAVID’S TOMB. The atmosphere in there was electric, prayer vibe you could cut with a knife.
In general terms I was happy to get out of there and back to Cyprus, because I was experiencing breathing difficulties until getting off the plane at Larnaca. The only thing I could compare it to was Northern Ireland at the end of the Troubles. I was losing control of my vehicle until we crossed the border into Eire.