Graun finally admits the sad truth about the " 2nd referendum petition"

Well, the Guardian has – finally – acknowledged the reality of the hapless and discredited “2nd referendum petition”, but only after an indecent interval, and when the Telegraph, HuffPo and other mainstream outlets already picked up the story.
And regrettably, they are still doing their best to sell us the flagging narrative of a “grassroots” response. “Overall, close to 2.5m signatures had been garnered from within the UK by Sunday lunchtime, making up an overwhelming proportion of the whole,” reads their last para…

……although it’s difficult to tell how many of these were genuine…..”

Hmmm. Sort of makes the first part of that sentence a bit redundant doesn’t it.
Meanwhile, in another part of the forest, the entire media and establishment have united to try and remove Corbyn before an early election is called and there is even a remote chance of a genuine anti-austerity pro-humanity prime minister in No 10.
More on that soon.


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Norman Pilon
Norman Pilon
Jun 27, 2016 6:35 AM

“EXCLUSIVE: Brexit ‘2nd Referendum Petition’ A 4 Chan Prank: BBC Report It As Real”

Jun 26, 2016 11:50 PM

Reblogged this on TheFlippinTruth.

Daniel Rich
Daniel Rich
Jun 26, 2016 11:40 PM

The outcome of this referendum took me by surprise [I thought the UK would stay in, especially after the loss of a murdered MP], because my personal prediction turned out to be utterly wrong. But if there’s one thing I can’t stand, it’s to have to watch sour losers attempting to get it right the second time around.
The people have spoken and in a true democracy the majority rules [even if minorities don’t agree with the outcome].

Jun 27, 2016 3:08 PM
Reply to  Daniel Rich

No matter how tragic an event that some media ‘associated’ with the allegation of someone shouting a slogan, the EU is a corporately led institution running globalist agenda along principles that are contrary and indeed anathema to the society of checks and balances that had grown a significant degree of freedom and tolerance… at least until the seductions and devices of fear were engineered to undermine ‘traditional’ patterns of trust and relationship with managed ‘incentive’ within conformity of ‘correctness’.
The fact that fine looking trojan horses can carry payloads of toxic disinformation or parasitical intent is lost on those who simply suckle on the story being pumped by a corrupted ‘self-interest’ of the institutions whose true function is to serve the whole – not slice it to be served up to top-down globalism.
I don’t think they are ‘sour losers’ – but active agitators set to work against the idea of democracy – because only the elite deserve it and can be trusted to serve the ‘right’ answer. I see a process of communication as an essential part of free willingness. A farmer of humans sees differently. The war-minded see communication as they see everything else; something to control, subvert, replace with hollow forms of communication that actively operate as denial of any real relationship – which means denial of consciousness and of humanity.

Jun 26, 2016 9:10 PM

„Breaking News; Brexit, Great Britain (the United Kingdom) out!“ https://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2016/06/24/breaking-news-great-britain-the-united-kingdom-out-der-knall-die-briten-das-vereinigte-koenigreich-draussen/
Andreas Schlüter
Berlin, Germany

Jun 26, 2016 8:49 PM

To put the anti-Corbyn coup attempt in context, there are two petitions on 38 Degrees relevant to this situation. One, suggesting that Corbyn should resign, collected 148 votes over the course of a day or so before it was ended. The other petition has been around for about two days and in that period has, at the last count, collected over 190,000 signatures. That’s an indication, I suggestion, of how wildly out of touch with the public mood papers such as the Grauniad are . . .

Jun 27, 2016 6:07 AM
Reply to  Runner77

Of course, I should have added that the second petition I refer to above states our SUPPORT for Corbyn! Apologies . . .

Jun 26, 2016 8:23 PM

The guy who started the petition is actually a leave voter. He started the petition about a month before the referendum because he didn’t expect to win!

Second EU Referendum Petition Started By Leave Voter William Oliver Healey

Jun 26, 2016 8:29 PM
Reply to  headrush69

Sorry, screwed that post up.
The full explanation offered was this :
Dear All
Re: EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum petition
This petition was created at a time (over a month ago) when it was looking unlikely that ‘leave’ were going to win, with the intention of making it harder for ‘remain’ to further shackle us to the EU. Due to the result, the petition has been hijacked by the remain campaign. Admittedly, my actions were premature however, my intentions were as stated above. THERE WAS NO GUARANTEE OF A LEAVE VICTORY AT THAT TIME!!! Having said that, if it had not been mine, it would have been orchestrated by someone on the remain campaign. However, since I am associated with the petition and before the press further associate me with it I felt the need to better clarify my position on the issue even if it looks bad. I am it’s creator, nothing more! The logistical probability of getting a turnout to be a minimum of 75% and of that, 60% of the vote must be one or the other (leave or remain) is in my opinion next to impossible without a compulsory element to the voting system.
I have been opposed to the bureaucratic and undemocratic nature of the European Union as an institution privately for many years and for all of my political career. I have openly and actively lent my support to both Vote Leave and Grassroots Out campaigns – why would I do this if I wanted to remain in the EU? I am genuinely appalled by the behaviour of some of the remain campaign, how they are conducting themselves post-referendum not just with this petition but generally. The referendum was fairly funded; democratically endorsed, every vote was weighted equally and I believe this was a true reflection of the mood of the country. To my fellow leavers, now doubting their decision please keep the faith, we will be fine just stick with it. I believe what we need to do now for the good of the country; is get behind the will of the British people, unite, issue Article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon and move forward, with the process of leaving the European Union.
William Oliver Healey
Creator of EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum petition”

Norman Pilon
Norman Pilon
Jun 26, 2016 11:30 PM
Reply to  headrush69

My head hurts.
A petition for a 2nd referendum submitted before the 1st has even gotten off the ground, and by someone on the “leave” side of the argument?
And he did it because he knew that if it hadn’t been his, somebody on the “remain side” would have orchestrated it? I guess he just wanted the “opposition” to hit the ground running . . .
Surely, William Oliver Healey must be some kind of provocateur working for the “remain” side, so that they could have their 2nd referendum and blame it on the “leave” side, too, just to to play up what from their viewpoint must surely be the pettiness of the “leavers.” “See what sore losers they are, even when they win they want a re-run!”
And William wants all the “leavers” to “keep the faith.” Really?
Well, William, what the heck happened to you? Orchestrating a petition for a re-run a whole month before the first one even gets done, isn’t that kinda like surrendering ahead of time? And now look at what you have done: whereas on Friday morning the “remainers” had been stymied without any recourse, they now have something to hope for . . .
Good luck winning the second round!

Norman Pilon
Norman Pilon
Jun 27, 2016 6:30 AM
Reply to  Norman Pilon

BTW: thank you, 4 Chan! Many a giggle did we have.

Jun 26, 2016 7:38 PM

B who runs the Moon Of Alabama blog, voted on the site. He is German and he voted from Germany.
“The second meme pushed is the “success” of some petition for a #ReverseBrexit vote someone set up on the UK parliament website. It now has more than a million “signatures”. That is a lot in a short time frame. But wait, any dog on the Internet can “sign” that petition provided it has some throw-away email address. I, a German in Germany, “signed” to test the procedure. It took me about 30 seconds.”

Jun 26, 2016 7:25 PM

Apparently Owen Jones is going to sulk and sulk and sulk until he’s given another referendum with a result that he likes. He can’t wait to walk off another television program to make his opponent’s point for them.