Guardian: "yes media is weighted against Trump" because he's "rubbish"
by Catte
As a female writer I often cringe at the embarrassing collection of beaming, smooth-faced young women the Guardian fields to wrap dangerous political extremisms in lipsticky identity-politics. There’s a touch of exploitation in it, intended or not. Here’s the latest example, by Lucia Graves:
The article sets out the case that Trump does not deserve unbiased press coverage. The media would love to be fair to him, of course, because fairness is their watchword – but they just can’t do it, because they have to protect their audience from his lies. Censorship is actually a sort of duty, Lucia tells us in her elementary-school prose, because Trump is “rubbish”.
His campaign is indeed a place where journalistic objectivity meets its limits, but it’s not because we’re deliberately gunning for him. There simply is no fairness in presenting both sides of a story when one side is consistently rubbish, to put it kindly, or a dumpster fire, in this cycle’s parlance. Trump changes his mind like it’s the weather and tells a lie every five minutes, going by Politico’s best count.
If we get past the awkward syntax (how often does Lucia think Trump changes the weather?), we have to admit “a lie every five minutes” is quite a lot of lies. True the article doesn’t tell us what any of those lies actually are, but Politico does (well, actually it doesn’t do that, but it does run a list of alleged “lies” Trump told over a single week, some of which may seem a bit relevant). But just in case you’re still not feeling convinced of the need for wholesale suppression of open political debate based on the fact that (shock) politicians lie, here’s a little more of Lucia’s A-grade analysis:
CNN and MSNBC have taken to putting parentheticals in their chyrons to correct erroneous claims in real time. The New York Times has started including the sweep of history in even the most straightforward news stories to demonstrate breaks from longstanding political norms.
The fact-checkers, in particular, are working overtime.
Trump’s also been keeping Politifact busy. As of late June, 95% of the site’s 158 fact-checks of Trump were rated “false” or “pants on fire”, while the same could be said for just 16% of Hillary Clinton’s 120 rated statements.
Ok, who is going to argue with a collection of data like this? Trump is 95% liar and Clinton is only 16% liar! Politifact says so! If that’s not a done deal, cast-iron, knock down argument for total censorship of Donald Trump and all he stands for I’d like to know what is.
Wait, what? Do I hear you say you want to know how they arrive at these statistics? You want to see the actual claims being made so you can evaluate them for yourself? You have heard that Politifact is not an entirely objective or neutral outfit?
No, I’m sorry, you need to get with the program. Media-bias is no longer a thing to be ashamed of, because the media is only biased against bad people. Today’s censorship is just about helping us understand things – weeding out the lies and leaving only the lovely truth for us to enjoy in nice pre-packed, easily-digested soundbites. Lucia is here to tell us our lovely cuddly Big Brother is only “fact-checking” so we don’t need to.
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Do you have any idea who owns this said media, that is all the Media from the Guardian to NY Times?
CNN BBC etc.
Don’t worry I will tell you! The same Trash that put George Soros in Charge of creating the Black Lives Matter Bull S##t, Immigration of Islam in Europe Bull Sh##t and USA. Funding and creating of ISIS(more Bull Sh##t)
they are Zionist Jews! Just look up the owners.
What happens when someone goes against there agenda? Do you think Clinton or Obama are even people that have control? no! There just puppets like Merkel. Do as they are told, that is why they are given power.
Check out some of who the Elders of Zion are http://www.bollyn.com
excellent , i agree with you 100%, you are so right
Personally I blame transssexuals. Ever since they’ve been allowed to pee in the ladies’ they’ve become too big for their Louboutins.
just wanted to say its great to see someone take the piss (see what I’ve done there) from all these conspiracy theorists – jesus (if he/she exists) help us.
I found Frank’s contribution very thought-provoking and interesting. Here in the UK, the people behind the so-called and self-styled Institute of Ideas meet his criteria. Originally all far left, they are now unbridled and enthusiastic champions of capitalism today. Why is this? I think there are two reasons for this revised behaviour. Firstly, it pays a whole lot better than being on the left. These days, being a right wing ideologue pays off big-time. They all enjoy well-paid entrees into the corridors of power and are handsomely rewarded for what they say and do. Secondly, I sometimes think there may just be a vestigial degree of their former sentiment at play in that they are working to promote capitalist values to the point where they end up becoming so intolerable that the conditions will provoke a real revolution. In such an event, they – I believe – believe that they… Read more »
Yet Nazism was brought to its knees by the Red Army. Patton was still in bed in a French whorehouse when the Soviet troops took Berlin. It was the Soviet troops who relieved the Nazi concentration camps of Auschwitz, Treblinka, and Dachau. Tito’s red partisans played a decisive role in halting the Third Reich’s advances.
American revisionist lies continue to perpetuate a pile of garbage that the USA was in some way a leading player against Hitler. It was not. America was an ally of Hitler’s until the day of Pearl Harbour, when the USA finally turned up late for WW2, and then left early at the end,
excellent, well said,
Hillary: Benghazi , voter fraud , secret private server with classified material , Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, Hiring Cronies, And taking bribes from foreign countries , Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it Declared Bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese , Arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House , Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, Shady Commodity Deals , Funding of neoNazis in the Ukraine that led to the toppling of the democratically elected president and to the biggest crisis that country has had since WWII , Turning Libya into chaos , Mastermind of the so-called “Arab Spring” that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa , Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi , Encouraging and supporting the murders of Palestinians and the destruction of their homes, towns and villages by… Read more »
Taking my lead from Graves… I think the Guardian itself is, increasingly… rubbish. Not a very sophisticated analysis I know, but if it’s good enough for the Guardian…
right on,
There seems to be a pattern emerging here. The Atlanticist elites seem to be adopting a war posture, not only against their external enemies, Russia, China, Iran, but anybody else who wishes their country to be sovereign; and also their internal enemies – the fabled ‘enemies within’ as Mrs Thatcher once termed them. Witness the Treatment of Trump, Corbyn and the Brexit Leave voters. The level of excoriation poured upon these individuals and groups has been quite unprecedented in its ferocity. More alarmingly still, quite openly and brazen anti-democratic sentiments are being espoused at all levels. Particularly by the liberal class. The liberal class to be found in flagship publications such as the Guardian and Independent in the UK, and the New York Times and the Washington Post in the US. This in addition to the variously (often lavishly funded) ‘think’ tanks and visual media. In the 1930s the liberal… Read more »
Neither Irving Kristol nor his dopey son (and his Weakly Standard) are anywhere on the Left at all. They are just fascists.
I think Frank was talking about how people like Kristol began as Trotskyists but have swung politically from the far left to the far right since. He and numerous others in the USA so-called neo-liberal or neo-conservative camp are all also invariably pro-Israel too these days – of which I will have more to say in another new posting.
Kristol and his scum may have stolen the tag ‘Trotskyists’. But that piece of filth and his stinking son were and are pure facists, and utter imposters. Willliam Kristol is a sack of excrement. Filthy imposters, liars, and thieves, like all Americans.
The venting of hate may give a sense of personal satisfaction – but at what cost? Apart from feeding rage of a blind destructive denial of life – it poisons the possibility of communication – for hate does not enter into or open to communication – as it ‘already knows’ what its grievance dictates as wholly justified and therefore asserted as ‘true’. If offguardian comments becomes a hate-fest then any communication that may have been opened to will be coloured by the sense of its readership – in the same way as any communication about the complex nature of Jewish influence on corporate, political and other key social institutions cannot be discussed without actual anti-Semitic hate-reaction blocking and feeding the very thing it purports to be ‘against’. For hate is needed to maintain an identity of threat – while also triggering guilt in those who find themselves associating in it.… Read more »
It isn’t Trump’s lies that bother the MSM; they’re used to lies–it’s chiefly what they do for a living. No, what really drives them up the wall is when Trump tells the truth! They hate it when he casually dismisses their phony narrative on Crimea, NATO, “free” trade, immigration, etc. That’s why they are determined to destroy him.
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well said, beautiful
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Cheers!
Not sure if this observation is true (one could check), but it appears to me that journalists in the mainstream media are, on average, getting younger all the time while the newspaper is getting older. Same phenomenom happened with Bin Laden who got younger all the time while everybody else was getting older. Of course, correlation does not imply causation, but could an explanation for this remarkable observation not be that MSM journalists and Bin Laden have the same parents, Mr and Mrs Neo, Con and Liberal? An alternative explanation could be that I am getting older… So I checked internet and guess what, my observation about that journalists are getting younger is true! See your favourite newspaper, the Guardian, on this issue (and they are never wrong 🙂 https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/jul/27/irelands-journalists-get-younger-as-experienced-staff-depart Of course their explanation for the getting younger issue (badly payed job, lack of opportunity, hard work, not necessarily related… Read more »
Hope you don’t mind that I put some more numbers down here about journalism… So I was trying to find out if journalist are getting younger in the Netherlands as well (it appears to be so, at least to me). I found the following facts: 3200 out of 18000 journalists in the Netherlands (17.5%), are jobless 9.5% receive welfare (cross sectional date January 2016) Most of the unemployed are older journalists. Which confirms my suspicion that journalists are getting younger (the older ones are getting fired) 47% (!) of those who studied journalism in the Netherlands regret their choice. In a way (maybe in every way) mainstream journalists are pityfull: it appears that they only get a job if they are able to write BS and report lies as if they are facts. The moment that cognitive dissonance is troubling their conscience, they are getting fired (and will be replaced… Read more »
Balanced journalism can be performed without the distortion of identity politics or personal opinion. The latter can be ventured openly as opinion. The attempt to control the narrative IS identity politics aka mind-control – and the remedy is to be truly identified within an honesty of being – rather than engage in a struggle to assert or impose a supremacy of identity that has no basis in fact but works to undermine the worth and power in others so as to trick them into a false framing in which their identity is managed and directed by narrative control. The uncovering of such a false sense of identity needs to be linked to the desire for true – rather than fed to the triggering of hate and rage – which may feel self-righteous – but is no less owned and directed. Whatever Trump can be seen to be in himself or… Read more »
Lucia Graves is so laughable as to be beyond parody. The Guardian has for years printing uniquely lies about climate change, which anyone who applies the principles of scientific evidence to the subject takes to be self-evident.
Who defines what is ‘rubbish’? Is it idiots like Lucia Graves? Why?? Does she have any qualifications to stand in judgement? Has she ever had a real job in her life? (Being a journalist is not a real job, it is being a scribbler). Has she ever created anything, uncovered truly new insights, built a business? Of course she hasn’t, she’s a Guardian luvvie who thinks she can tell the world what to do and think because she’s a right-on, leftie feminist who believes in climate change because she read about it in the Guardian.
Dear oh dear oh dear…….
Make that a pseudo-leftie. Nothing she writes (or that any of them write – Barbara Ellen, Marina Jekyll, Nuttery NewGayRead, Suzanne Moore, ad nauseum – is in the slightest left-wing. It’s a simulacrum of leftism, aimed at recruiting the dimwitted for neocon causes. Everything from Russia-hating to slagging off avocados.
Dear oh dear oh dear… another one of the true morans.
When I last looked, it was spelt “morons”.
Yeah, and because Trump is such rubbish, it’s only natural to call him and his associates ‘Putin agents’ at every opportunity…
Yes that’s just journalism. The more times Trump and Putin can be put in the same sentence for whatever sketchy reason the better.
Never mind that love him or hate him, Trump is about as American as it gets.
The conceptual lens that applies to The Guardian is that it is predominantly a pro-zionist publication.
Always start from that perspective and everything else fits into place.
They want Hillary to win because that is better for Israel.
They are anti-Putin because he is blocking the Eretz (Greater) Yisrael Yinon Plan by supporting Syria.
It all starts and ends with analysing what is best for Israel – then everything fits for The Guardian.
Another “player” with questionable loyalty: Israel First and – maybe – Britain and the US Last.
I’ve tried to say that a few times. Mostly modded. Nowadays such posts get ‘disappeared’, as do whole threads that make mention or discuss this matter.
But you’re right: viewed through that particular lens everything falls into place. Especially the onslaught (no other word fits) against Corbyn.
Reblogged this on The Greater Fool.
Here’s more from the frightfully talented… Luke ‘Houdini’ Harding, who can read Putin’s mind across continents… what a… guy.
He’s terribly confused though, calling the incompetent Yanukovich, a ‘strongman.’ So, Yanukovich is ‘pro-Russian’ but was actually put into power in Kiev by… the Americans. How does that stack up? Oh, now I understand. By Americans who really work for the Kremlin… like Trump himself. Good to get that cleared up.
The Guardian really isn’t all that different from the Sun or the Daily Mail. It just has different targets, loves and hates. But the journalistic rhetoric and style is, remarkably similiar; the low methods employed against perceived outsiders who don’t, for whatever reason, share core liberal dogmas and conceits.
Now they are actually defending and proud of their blatant bias and partisanship, because it’s aimed a ‘bad politicians.’ Unlike Obama and Hillary who are so ‘good’, it hurts.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/16/donald-trump-campaign-paul-manafort-ukraine-yanukovichhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/16/donald-trump-campaign-paul-manafort-ukraine-yanukovich
Ha! I enjoyed this. Good you pick up on her plodding style. Lucia may have inherited a yen to pen from a dad who gave us White Goddess, Goodbye to All That and the magnificent I Claudius – but the quality gene passed her by.
Her schoolgirl tone maps neatly to equally adolescent content in the form of gushing adulation for Hillary. Back in April Graves & Graun saw fit to put us straight on just how thrilling a Clinton the Second presidency will be: “she’ll put women’s rights (read: human rights) at the center her presidency. And that should excite you whether you’re a man or a woman, or just a sentient creature with a heart”.
From her funding it would seem Hilary will be putting the rights of major banks and Saudi Arabia at the center of her presidency, unless they gave her all that money for nothing.
Think that’s a different Lucia Graves! 🙂
Just checked – you’re right! Mortified. Totally mortified.
Interesting and scathing comment there, Catte. You’re right, of course. Most people, I’m sure, would want their news as unfiltered as it gets because where do you draw the line? ‘Not reporting this because I don’t like his attitude.’ ‘God, I think she must be racist so I’m not writing about that!’ ‘What a sexist comment, I’m not reporting that!’
Unfortunately, the Guardian is already knee deep in this particular paddy. Which is why it simply isn’t trusted as a newspaper any more.
The legacy of Lynda Lee-Potter is not dead – it has just slept, until now.
Does anyone seriously believe the Graun or the Odserver any more? Remember the Panama Papers, that NSA hack which was selectively leaked? Poured over for a year by CIA spooks, sorry investigative journalists. One of which was Luke Harding and his sensational Putin’s Panama Scandal, supposed corrupt investment links that quickly turned out to be all lies. There were no links to Putin just a fatuous connection to an old friend who had nothing to do with Russian politics and no connection to Putin having used him as a intermediary at all. There were links to Cameron and other political crooks like Poroshenko however, but these were never seriously followed up or focused on. They didn’t fit the intended narrative. A narrative that turned out to be nothing but fabrication by Harding and the Guardian. Yes the corporate media is weighted, because it usually spouts political lies – dressed up… Read more »
“Like”……The Guardian has gone down the toilet in my opinion. If I’m looking for bullshit, I’ll visit a local farm and collect it.